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Even if btc-e decides to return crypto coins to their rightful owners, how can we use these coins? Everyone will stay away from dealing with them to avoid the US prosecution.
That's practically impossible. If they happen to do so, it won't take much time for the US government to chase them down, where after that we'll run into the same drama again. But even if they do end up returning, only a total idiot will make use of an exchange being operated by the same BTC-E staff.
You are so westernized in your thoughts, its really getting awkward. Impossible because the big mighty USA put a picture on a domain? Many countries and individuals give a shit about USA and only because USA says everything is illegal, it doesn't mean it is. If they open up again, I bet 90% of the Russians will use them again. Why USA is imposing sanctions against Russia and Russia isn't bending over?
This is not about the ways or styles of thinking
If we are to remain honest, we should accept the fact that the US is effectively controlling the monetary and, more broadly, financial flows around the world (at least, the better part of them). At a time, the train of events got close to cutting Russia itself from the SWIFT international payment system. Right now Russia tries to get itself out of these ties and break away with the payment systems controlled by Uncle Sam. In fact, it is not about using Btc-e again if (when) it restarts (most people will be happy to use it again anyway) but rather how useful it will ever be. As I see it, they could only restart (in any meaningful way) as a cryptocurrency only exchange with no fiat deposits and withdrawals (like Bitfinex had been cut off of the fiat transfer channels in April)
-they will just go silent and everything is lost
I believe that this is the most likely one as it costs zero effort, and they end up with millions in tainted coin funds as bonus. It doesn't matter what they do at this point, they are already being painted off as criminals, so what exactly will change for them in that regard? Nothing. But well, you understand that we are over this stage already? They did not go silent, you noticed that, right? So, the idea of "btce is stealing the same way like the FBI, then go silent and hide" can be dismissed already.
That's practically impossible. If they happen to do so, it won't take much time for the US government to chase them down, where after that we'll run into the same drama again. But even if they do end up returning, only a total idiot will make use of an exchange being operated by the same BTC-E staff.
You are so westernized in your thoughts, its really getting awkward. Impossible because the big mighty USA put a picture on a domain? Many countries and individuals give a shit about USA and only because USA says everything is illegal, it doesn't mean it is. If they open up again, I bet 90% of the Russians will use them again. Why USA is imposing sanctions against Russia and Russia isn't bending over?
-they will just go silent and everything is lost
I believe that this is the most likely one as it costs zero effort, and they end up with millions in tainted coin funds as bonus. It doesn't matter what they do at this point, they are already being painted off as criminals, so what exactly will change for them in that regard? Nothing. -refund or partial refund
I can't see them fully refunding everything since we don't know if the servers their hot wallets operate from are compromised by the US government. If you hope for at least any sort of refund, the hope should be pointed at what's sitting in their cold wallets. But then again, we still don't know what BTC-E is going to do with these funds.-resuming of btc-e life, somehow
That's practically impossible. If they happen to do so, it won't take much time for the US government to chase them down, where after that we'll run into the same drama again. But even if they do end up returning, only a total idiot will make use of an exchange being operated by the same BTC-E staff.
aawww, I guess your boyfriend left you, and now you hate life, sorry 
On a serious note, we have 3 options,
-they will just go silent and everything is lost
-refund or partial refund
-resuming of btc-e life, somehow
So it's a 66% chance
On a serious note, we have 3 options,
-they will just go silent and everything is lost
-refund or partial refund
-resuming of btc-e life, somehow
So it's a 66% chance
How pathetic life you must have to find joy in someone's loss, no matter what kind of exchange it was.
Go outside of you mom's basement, enjoy life, it's very short
Go outside of you mom's basement, enjoy life, it's very short
little sheep, I don't find joy, I only smile. It's just a choice.
you choose to be stupid, I choose to smile.
How pathetic life you must have to find joy in someone's loss, no matter what kind of exchange it was.
Go outside of you mom's basement, enjoy life, it's very short
Go outside of you mom's basement, enjoy life, it's very short
Dont understand why people can spread this FUD against innocent people that have lost their money.
We should not be this towards each other, rather stick together and believe that you will earn back your hard work money.
We should not be this towards each other, rather stick together and believe that you will earn back your hard work money.
The internet is full of fudders, so this shouldn't really come as a surprise. People right now make fun of others making use of unlicensed exchanges, but when the same people make use of licensed exchanges, the same fudders will then blame them for making use of centralized exchanges and whatever else. It doesn't really matter what happens, they will always find something to start spreading fud, make others look bad, etc. Ignore button is your friend.
I try to remember that for those engaging in schadenfreude, their lives are probably pathetic and sad. If the idea of someone losing their life savings brings a smile to your face, you must be a very unhappy person. Sure, holding one's life savings on a bitcoin exchange (especially one not backed by tight legal compliance and endless VC money) is a risk not worth taking. Spreading around the risk (at least) is sensible.
All exchanges are a risk. Unfortunately, BTC-E's API and trade engine were superior to all others. Metatrader and PAMM, and association with major brokers (FXOpen, Avatrade, Plus500, etc) also set them apart from other exchanges. Many investors, traders, miners and brokers -- large and small -- got caught up in the BTC-E seizure.
a real investor would never use a crap like BTC-e (an unregulated anoymous exchanger from Russia) only if has something to hide, to avoid(like taxes), etc .
those who "play" their life savings, are really STUPIDS. how can you put all your money in an exchanger? it's like you go to a casino with your life savings and you expect to earn.
that means you are an idiot
it's not FUD.
I warned for so many times agaist BTC-e and similar others. All these exchangers(unregulated ones) will be closed soon. it's a fact not FUD. I smile because i see MANY sheep around.
Stop dreaming. BTC-e aint ever coming back.
I think they have proven that they aren't pieces of junk already, unlike some people around here.
They ARE coming back and you can return to the hole you crawled out from one that happens. We will see by the end of month.
Stop dreaming. BTC-e aint ever coming back.
Long time lurker of bitcoingtalk and finally decided to register. I lost about 90K in ether. Fortunately the amount of fiat used to purchase it was very small. I'm hoping to be able to get the coins back but it seems unlikely.
As far as the current status is, it is very likely that either btce will relaunch with some ways to coupe with the losses due the criminal FBI heist or everybody gets refunded. How high this refund will be is not clear yet, but I believe the circumstances (bcc + btc pump) are very much in favor of a high percentage refund in the range 60% - 70%. Of course - for them had coins there - you will get coins bought for today's price, so less than before.
In the next days they will publish what they are going to do or/and how much FBI stole.
Dont understand why people can spread this FUD against innocent people that have lost their money.
We should not be this towards each other, rather stick together and believe that you will earn back your hard work money.
We should not be this towards each other, rather stick together and believe that you will earn back your hard work money.
The internet is full of fudders, so this shouldn't really come as a surprise. People right now make fun of others making use of unlicensed exchanges, but when the same people make use of licensed exchanges, the same fudders will then blame them for making use of centralized exchanges and whatever else. It doesn't really matter what happens, they will always find something to start spreading fud, make others look bad, etc. Ignore button is your friend.
I try to remember that for those engaging in schadenfreude, their lives are probably pathetic and sad. If the idea of someone losing their life savings brings a smile to your face, you must be a very unhappy person. Sure, holding one's life savings on a bitcoin exchange (especially one not backed by tight legal compliance and endless VC money) is a risk not worth taking. Spreading around the risk (at least) is sensible.
All exchanges are a risk. Unfortunately, BTC-E's API and trade engine were superior to all others. Metatrader and PAMM, and association with major brokers (FXOpen, Avatrade, Plus500, etc) also set them apart from other exchanges. Many investors, traders, miners and brokers -- large and small -- got caught up in the BTC-E seizure.
Long time lurker of bitcoingtalk and finally decided to register. I lost about 90K in ether. Fortunately the amount of fiat used to purchase it was very small. I'm hoping to be able to get the coins back but it seems unlikely.
I don't understand what that site is supposed to be, some sort of a snapshot from July 25th.?
The current time is wrong.
If you click anything on it, it's Putin and the Chinese president flipping you off.
I don't understand what that site is supposed to be, some sort of a snapshot from July 25th.?
The current time is wrong.
Dont understand why people can spread this FUD against innocent people that have lost their money.
We should not be this towards each other, rather stick together and believe that you will earn back your hard work money.
We should not be this towards each other, rather stick together and believe that you will earn back your hard work money.
The internet is full of fudders, so this shouldn't really come as a surprise. People right now make fun of others making use of unlicensed exchanges, but when the same people make use of licensed exchanges, the same fudders will then blame them for making use of centralized exchanges and whatever else. It doesn't really matter what happens, they will always find something to start spreading fud, make others look bad, etc. Ignore button is your friend.
Dont listen to mayax he stated many times he is happy we lost money.
He is the guy who goes to terminal ill children and say that its their own fault that they are dying.
He is the guy who goes to terminal ill children and say that its their own fault that they are dying.
YES, you deserve to lose your funds because you used an exchanger like BTC-e but I am not happy with that . It's just a lesson for "you".
you = all you lost funds with BTC-e
I am just smiling when I see how many sheep are around. "you" are keep using similar exchangers like BTC-e..... Bitfinex, Kraken, Poloniex, etc.
I am the one who is saying that the era for unregulated exchangers is gone. if you have a tinny brain, you will realize that the anonymous shit you advertise is pure sci-fi.
you blaim the banks but you love the cash. you curse the authorities but you turn to them when someone is "stealing" your funds
it's good to be hypocrite, right?
Dont understand why people can spread this FUD against innocent people that have lost their money.
We should not be this towards each other, rather stick together and believe that you will earn back your hard work money.
I wish you all the best luck
cheers
We should not be this towards each other, rather stick together and believe that you will earn back your hard work money.
I wish you all the best luck
cheers
are there any new news regarding the btc-e comeback, besides those news from btc-e from a week ago, regarding "we shall get our monies back until 1. september" 
Latest update 3rd August: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/update4-03082017-2063529
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