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full member
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August 06, 2017, 10:48:31 AM
are there any new news regarding the btc-e comeback, besides those news from btc-e from a week ago, regarding "we shall get our monies back until 1. september" Huh
legendary
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diamond-handed zealot
August 06, 2017, 09:18:33 AM
I just wish people didn't seem to enjoy rubbing others' nose in it so much.

I get that

A lot of us still have pain from earlier exchange fiascos and new events dredge that up.

Misery loves company.
legendary
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STOP SNITCHIN'
August 06, 2017, 01:02:18 AM
Why quit trading Lionel? we can do it in safe ways, with descentraliced exchanges

not against fiat currencies. attempts to peg cryptocurrency to fiat value are highly centralized, and usually depend on 1) centralized banking (like tether) or 2) a price floor contract. the former is subject to all pressures of the legacy banking system, and the latter is not sustainable, nor safe from third party exchange risk.

decentralized exchanges and atomic cross-chain swaps will be great for trading bitcoin against altcoins. but when the entire market is falling and you want to hold dollars, then what?

You still need a mechanism for price discovery. There has to be makers and takers with a mechanism to communicate and arrange the trade. Hence, exchanges.

That's what I find most upsetting about all the people who say, "that's what you get for keeping coins/money on exchanges." The same people often turn around and quote prices from the major exchanges (who are all at risk of going down from a hack, for example).

I get it, spread the risk around and take coins off exchanges when you can. I just wish people didn't seem to enjoy rubbing others' nose in it so much.
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hero member
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August 06, 2017, 12:28:41 AM
Why quit trading Lionel? we can do it in safe ways, with descentraliced exchanges

not against fiat currencies. attempts to peg cryptocurrency to fiat value are highly centralized, and usually depend on 1) centralized banking (like tether) or 2) a price floor contract. the former is subject to all pressures of the legacy banking system, and the latter is not sustainable, nor safe from third party exchange risk.

decentralized exchanges and atomic cross-chain swaps will be great for trading bitcoin against altcoins. but when the entire market is falling and you want to hold dollars, then what?

You still need a mechanism for price discovery. There has to be makers and takers with a mechanism to communicate and arrange the trade. Hence, exchanges.
legendary
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August 06, 2017, 12:26:19 AM
Why quit trading Lionel? we can do it in safe ways, with descentraliced exchanges

not against fiat currencies. attempts to peg cryptocurrency to fiat value are highly centralized, and usually depend on 1) centralized banking (like tether) or 2) a price floor contract. the former is subject to all pressures of the legacy banking system, and the latter is not sustainable, nor safe from third party exchange risk.

decentralized exchanges and atomic cross-chain swaps will be great for trading bitcoin against altcoins. but when the entire market is falling and you want to hold dollars, then what?
member
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August 06, 2017, 12:22:59 AM
Trading is an important part of cryptocurrency world. Without traders, who can provide liquidity and price quotes when somebody wants to invest/divest in cryptocoins?
newbie
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August 05, 2017, 10:12:24 PM
Why quit trading Lionel? we can do it in safe ways, with descentraliced exchanges
sr. member
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August 05, 2017, 07:53:24 PM
Dont listen to mayax he stated many times he is happy we lost money.

He is the guy who goes to terminal ill children and say that its their own fault that they are dying.

I am the one who is saying that the era for unregulated exchangers is gone. if you have a tinny brain, you will realize that the anonymous shit you advertise is pure sci-fi.

This is only partly true. On one hand, bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general are attaining mainstream acceptance, so regulation is becoming the norm and dark markets and money laundering havens may be shut down. On the other hand, privacy-enhancing technology is improving everyday. Currencies like Monero seem to largely aid anonymity (time will tell as experts continue to try break the technology).

Tumblebit could be be a game-changer for Bitcoin fungibility. Between heightened fungibility and decentralized crypto exchanges, the future for the unregulated exchange of cryptocurrencies does not look completely dark.

First of all i still don't see the point of creating all of these anonimity tools to be used together with Bitcoin when Tor already exist that can do it, and  I2P as well if i'm not wrong ( see https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-client-with-i2p-patch-151181, and https://github.com/VirtualDestructor/bitcoin-qt-i2p ).
That Tumblebit was not necessary at this point, right?

Monero , Dash and other crypto that implement built-in anonimity make more sense because at least they avoid the need to use external tools on top of the wallet client, and this makes those crypto usable by non-technical people that want to be abonymous. This is a great advantage over Tumblebit or Tor etc. which are more complicated for sure.

About all of these exchange incidents... i think that people must quit with this trading mania and start realizing that the true power of crypto is that you can get an anonymous job paid anonymously so that you avoid taxes and you earn more.

Everyone would get a wage at least 25-30% higher by having an anonymous job payed in BTC and the power of the Elites will end finally.
And employers as well can benefit because otherwise they are subject to overwhelming taxes if they live in a Western country.

I don't understand why once upon a time all of these trading and betting maniacs did not exist despite the average citizen was wealthier than now.
Now you are all poor and you like risking your bucks like they're nuts by playing these risky games because you hope to get rich and escape from the poverty that your Gov caused you through taxes.

So everybody  let's start working anonymously and poverty will not be your problem anymore.
Quit trading... trust me
hero member
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August 05, 2017, 04:32:50 PM
Dont listen to mayax he stated many times he is happy we lost money.

He is the guy who goes to terminal ill children and say that its their own fault that they are dying.

I am the one who is saying that the era for unregulated exchangers is gone. if you have a tinny brain, you will realize that the anonymous shit you advertise is pure sci-fi.

This is only partly true. On one hand, bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general are attaining mainstream acceptance, so regulation is becoming the norm and dark markets and money laundering havens may be shut down. On the other hand, privacy-enhancing technology is improving everyday. Currencies like Monero seem to largely aid anonymity (time will tell as experts continue to try break the technology).

Tumblebit could be be a game-changer for Bitcoin fungibility. Between heightened fungibility and decentralized crypto exchanges, the future for the unregulated exchange of cryptocurrencies does not look completely dark.
member
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August 05, 2017, 04:16:31 PM
Calm down, guys! Cool
newbie
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August 05, 2017, 03:58:54 PM
Dont listen to mayax he stated many times he is happy we lost money.

He is the guy who goes to terminal ill children and say that its their own fault that they are dying.


YES, you deserve to lose your funds because you used an exchanger like BTC-e but I am not happy with that . It's just a lesson for "you".

you = all you lost funds with BTC-e

I am just smiling when I see how many sheep are around.  "you" are keep using similar exchangers like BTC-e.....  Bitfinex, Kraken, Poloniex, etc.

I am the one who is saying that the era for unregulated exchangers is gone. if you have a tinny brain, you will realize that the anonymous shit you advertise is pure sci-fi.

you blaim the banks but you love the cash. you curse the authorities but you turn to them when someone is "stealing" your funds  Smiley

it's good to be hypocrite, right?

MAYAX SPEAKS WORDS OF A COCK
legendary
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Go Big or Go Home.....
August 05, 2017, 03:52:24 PM
Dont listen to mayax he stated many times he is happy we lost money.

He is the guy who goes to terminal ill children and say that its their own fault that they are dying.


YES, you deserve to lose your funds because you used an exchanger like BTC-e but I am not happy with that . It's just a lesson for "you".

you = all you lost funds with BTC-e

I am just smiling when I see how many sheep are around.  "you" are keep using similar exchangers like BTC-e.....  Bitfinex, Kraken, Poloniex, etc.

I am the one who is saying that the era for unregulated exchangers is gone. if you have a tinny brain, you will realize that the anonymous shit you advertise is pure sci-fi.

you blaim the banks but you love the cash. you curse the authorities but you turn to them when someone is "stealing" your funds  Smiley

it's good to be hypocrite, right?

It's ok. Karma will come back and get him/her/it.
member
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August 05, 2017, 03:21:01 PM
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I am the one who is saying that the era for unregulated exchangers is gone.

It's amazing to read this at cryptocurrency forum!
I'm just curious, aren't "unregulated cryptocurrencies" next in the row. When exactly cryptocurrency era will be goe as well?
newbie
Activity: 45
Merit: 0
August 05, 2017, 03:11:41 PM
Dont listen to mayax he stated many times he is happy we lost money.

He is the guy who goes to terminal ill children and say that its their own fault that they are dying.


YES, you deserve to lose your funds because you used an exchanger like BTC-e but I am not happy with that . It's just a lesson for "you".

you = all you lost funds with BTC-e

I am just smiling when I see how many sheep are around.  "you" are keep using similar exchangers like BTC-e.....  Bitfinex, Kraken, Poloniex, etc.

I am the one who is saying that the era for unregulated exchangers is gone. if you have a tinny brain, you will realize that the anonymous shit you advertise is pure sci-fi.

you blaim the banks but you love the cash. you curse the authorities but you turn to them when someone is "stealing" your funds  Smiley

it's good to be hypocrite, right?

ah man your real name must be DICK
legendary
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Merit: 1004
August 05, 2017, 03:02:16 PM
Dont listen to mayax he stated many times he is happy we lost money.

He is the guy who goes to terminal ill children and say that its their own fault that they are dying.


YES, you deserve to lose your funds because you used an exchanger like BTC-e but I am not happy with that . It's just a lesson for "you".

you = all you lost funds with BTC-e

I am just smiling when I see how many sheep are around.  "you" are keep using similar exchangers like BTC-e.....  Bitfinex, Kraken, Poloniex, etc.

I am the one who is saying that the era for unregulated exchangers is gone. if you have a tinny brain, you will realize that the anonymous shit you advertise is pure sci-fi.

you blaim the banks but you love the cash. you curse the authorities but you turn to them when someone is "stealing" your funds  Smiley

it's good to be hypocrite, right?
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1179
August 05, 2017, 01:15:46 PM
Dont listen to mayax he stated many times he is happy we lost money.

He is the guy who goes to terminal ill children and say that its their own fault that they are dying.
Who cares about him anyway? Initially he was quite correct on various things related to BTC-E, but at this point it seems that he's going totally nuts on eveyone replying to this thread.

He's constantly trying to force through his own vision, where he makes a fool out of everyone that isn't on the same line as him ~ that's what I consider to be pretty obvious troll behavior.
newbie
Activity: 45
Merit: 0
August 05, 2017, 11:44:08 AM
Dont listen to mayax he stated many times he is happy we lost money.

He is the guy who goes to terminal ill children and say that its their own fault that they are dying.
i think you are spot on!
newbie
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Merit: 0
August 05, 2017, 11:32:10 AM
Dont listen to mayax he stated many times he is happy we lost money.

He is the guy who goes to terminal ill children and say that its their own fault that they are dying.
member
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Merit: 18
August 05, 2017, 11:30:21 AM
the unlicensed exchangers are a plague and they must be removed.

I'd rather not have my documents and bank accounts at risk for hacking/identity theft. And I'd rather not have the IRS in my business. Why does that make these exchanges a "plague?" They are only such if you believe that the US government should be in control of the movement of money, generally. Why?

they are a plague because they made a bad image to any e-currency. people lost funds.

 if you don't like fiat, close all your bank account and live without them  Smiley

a regulated market(only with licensed exchangers) is the way; otherwise, BTC will collapse.

Yes, because the entire concept of Bitcoin received popularity due to its regulated, centralized, government controlled, big banker correlations...

/s
legendary
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diamond-handed zealot
August 05, 2017, 10:46:25 AM
the unlicensed exchangers are a plague and they must be removed.

I'd rather not have my documents and bank accounts at risk for hacking/identity theft. And I'd rather not have the IRS in my business. Why does that make these exchanges a "plague?" They are only such if you believe that the US government should be in control of the movement of money, generally. Why?

they are a plague because they made a bad image to any e-currency. people lost funds.

 if you don't like fiat, close all your bank account and live without them  Smiley

a regulated market(only with licensed exchangers) is the way; otherwise, BTC will collapse.

The State is your daddy, it will protect you  Roll Eyes
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