Topic: [BTC-TC] Deprived Mining Speculation (DMS) - page 41. (Read 198958 times)

I don't know the right value price for DMS.mining. A right value price could be 0.002 BTC per share based on the block eruptor blade pricing at BTC guild. (not available for international shipment)

Oops 


Do you think those are panic sells?


Thanks, this is what I thought. I was expecting a price drop in DMS.selling 

DMS.MINING was way overvalued, that's the reason for the drop.

Value != price.

The price of DMS.MINING has dropped considerably the last 2 days. Yesterday started with quite a bit of SELLING buys, which pushed up the SELLING price and consequently MINING price was pushed down by arbitrage-action. Afterwards, there were pretty big dumps of MINING both yesterday and today.

The JD losses on their own will not affect MINING at all, as long as difficulty keeps rising. Since JD only makes up 10% of the NAV, it can only drop it the NAV by 10% (if the entire investment goes to zero) and that only becomes noticable for MINING if difficulty stops growing. As it stands right now, any investment gains and losses only affect the value of SELLING.

Can someone explain why the JD losses affect the DMS.mining value instead of DMS.selling?
 (Or is there another reason for the DMS.mining drop that I am missing?)

Big kicking for J-D today.  It's a competitor betting big and (so far) winning on it.  We're still well up on J-D investment overall - but this clearly shows why I wasn't willing to increase investment there above 10%.

Sold   182
Swapped   0
Total   182
Price   0.009251
Total   1.683682
Less Fee   1.680314636
Man Fee   0.050409439

BTC Balance (BTC-TC)   1135.022031
9071 LTC-ATF.B1    90.71000000
CIPHERMINE Bonds    375.45000000
Coinlenders CD 27/9   202.9673038
Coinlenders Cash   0
Just-Dice Balance    170.17200000
TOTAL ASSETS    1,974.32133521
   
Outstanding MINING   210972
Outstanding SELLING   210972
Outstanding PURCHASE   14317
Effective Units   225289
   
Block reward   25
Difficulty   112,628,549
Hashes per MINING   5000000
   
Daily Dividend    0.00002233
50 days (Min Liquid)    0.00111629
100 days (Forced Close)    0.00223259
365 days (Buyback)    0.00814895
405 days (IPO)    0.00904199
400 days (Post SELLING div)    0.00893036
410 days (Pre SELLING div)    0.00915361
   
NAV Post MINING Div    1,969.29155779
NAV/U Post MINING Div    0.00874118
Days Dividend Post Div   391.53
SELLING Dividend    -         
NAV Post SELLING Div    1,969.29155779
NAV/U Post Selling Div    0.00874118
PURCHASE selling price    0.009178
PURCHASE buy-back price    0.008566
   
J-D House profit at report   2220

J-D took some pretty heavy losses today.

Sold   5781
Swapped   0
Total   5781
Price   0.009291
Total   53.711271
Less Fee   53.60384846
Man Fee   1.608115454

BTC Balance (BTC-TC)   1133.781499
9071 LTC-ATF.B1    90.71000000
CIPHERMINE Bonds    379.86000000
Coinlenders CD 27/9   202.8462525
Coinlenders Cash   0
Just-Dice Balance    181.18000000
TOTAL ASSETS    1,988.37775163
   
Outstanding MINING   210972
Outstanding SELLING   210972
Outstanding PURCHASE   14135
Effective Units   225107
   
Block reward   25
Difficulty   112,628,549
Hashes per MINING   5000000
   
Daily Dividend    0.00002233
50 days (Min Liquid)    0.00111629
100 days (Forced Close)    0.00223259
365 days (Buyback)    0.00814895
405 days (IPO)    0.00904199
400 days (Post SELLING div)    0.00893036
410 days (Pre SELLING div)    0.00915361
   
NAV Post MINING Div    1,983.35203752
NAV/U Post MINING Div    0.00881071
Days Dividend Post Div   394.64
SELLING Dividend    -         
NAV Post SELLING Div    1,983.35203752
NAV/U Post Selling Div    0.00881071
PURCHASE selling price    0.009251
PURCHASE buy-back price    0.008634
   
J-D House profit at report   4675

Oh, sure! I forgot to look at the clock before posting))

Offer is always taken down each day at around the time of dividends/report.  Once I've checked the accounting and that the new price is correct a new bid gos up.

Sold   1784
Swapped   0
Total   1784
Price   0.009322
Total   16.630448
Less Fee   16.5971871
Man Fee   0.497915613

BTC Balance (BTC-TC)   1086.662242
9071 LTC-ATF.B1    90.71000000
CIPHERMINE Bonds    379.88000000
Coinlenders CD 27/9   202.7240036
Coinlenders Cash   0
Just-Dice Balance    185.67300000
TOTAL ASSETS    1,945.64924593
   
Outstanding MINING   206462
Outstanding SELLING   206462
Outstanding PURCHASE   12864
Effective Units   219326
   
Block reward   25
Difficulty   112,628,549
Hashes per MINING   5000000
   
Daily Dividend    0.00002233
50 days (Min Liquid)    0.00111629
100 days (Forced Close)    0.00223259
365 days (Buyback)    0.00814895
405 days (IPO)    0.00904199
400 days (Post SELLING div)    0.00893036
410 days (Pre SELLING div)    0.00915361
   
NAV Post MINING Div    1,940.75259779
NAV/U Post MINING Div    0.00884871
Days Dividend Post Div   396.34
SELLING Dividend    -         
NAV Post SELLING Div    1,940.75259779
NAV/U Post Selling Div    0.00884871
PURCHASE selling price    0.009291
PURCHASE buy-back price    0.008672
   
J-D House profit at report   5844

What happened to PURHASE offer? Can see no Ask orders at the selling price.

Sold   1097
Swapped   0
Total   1097
Price   0.009339
Total   10.244883
Less Fee   10.22439323
Man Fee   0.306731797

BTC Balance (BTC-TC)   1074.936339
9071 LTC-ATF.B1    90.71000000
CIPHERMINE Bonds    380.34000000
Coinlenders CD 27/9   202.6037698
Coinlenders Cash   0
Just-Dice Balance    187.72700000
TOTAL ASSETS    1,936.31710849
   
Outstanding MINING   206461
Outstanding SELLING   206461
Outstanding PURCHASE   11081
Effective Units   217542
   
Block reward   25
Difficulty   112,628,549
Hashes per MINING   5000000
   
Daily Dividend    0.00002233
50 days (Min Liquid)    0.00111629
100 days (Forced Close)    0.00223259
365 days (Buyback)    0.00814895
405 days (IPO)    0.00904199
400 days (Post SELLING div)    0.00893036
410 days (Pre SELLING div)    0.00915361
   
NAV Post MINING Div    1,931.46028974
NAV/U Post MINING Div    0.00887856
Days Dividend Post Div   397.68
SELLING Dividend    -         
NAV Post SELLING Div    1,931.46028974
NAV/U Post Selling Div    0.00887856
PURCHASE selling price    0.009322
PURCHASE buy-back price    0.008701
   
J-D House profit at report   6396

thanks! : )

It's in the LTC-ATF thread on the Litecoin forums:
https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,657.225.html

Could you link it here please?

Hmm, interesting.

Yeh, your both right,  I don't know enough to slash on anything at the moment.

BUT, I do want to do something.

How about if I buy BTC and sit on it?

Actually it isn't a troll - though it isn't 100% accurate.  Will be making a post about it myself in about half an hour.

Looks like you might be getting trolled... https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3174029

Sold   1975
Swapped   0
Total   1975
Price   0.009365
Total   18.495875
Less Fee   18.45888325
Man Fee   0.553766498

BTC Balance (BTC-TC)   1067.805146
9071 LTC-ATF.B1    90.71000000
CIPHERMINE Bonds    382.33000000
Coinlenders CD 27/9   202.4812502
Coinlenders Cash   0
Just-Dice Balance    186.68800000
TOTAL ASSETS    1,930.01439571
   
Outstanding MINING   205876
Outstanding SELLING   205876
Outstanding PURCHASE   10569
Effective Units   216445
   
Block reward   25
Difficulty   112,628,549
Hashes per MINING   5000000
   
Daily Dividend    0.00002233
50 days (Min Liquid)    0.00111629
100 days (Forced Close)    0.00223259
365 days (Buyback)    0.00814895
405 days (IPO)    0.00904199
400 days (Post SELLING div)    0.00893036
410 days (Pre SELLING div)    0.00915361
   
NAV Post MINING Div    1,925.18206846
NAV/U Post MINING Div    0.00889456
Days Dividend Post Div   398.40
SELLING Dividend    -         
NAV Post SELLING Div    1,925.18206846
NAV/U Post Selling Div    0.00889456
PURCHASE selling price    0.009339
PURCHASE buy-back price    0.008717
   
J-D House profit at report   6097

Bit of a drop in J-D today - though not until after I'd made the withdrawal yesterday.  If anyone's interested DMS is in profit by ~27 BTC from investing in J-D.