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sr. member
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August 25, 2017, 08:45:50 PM
There are many things to do, but you should publicy the software around the net, not only  bitcointalk.
See what the competition did to sucess, not by copy pasting their ideas but to clear the ones that you have,also to not make the same mistakes is how actually will have an EV+ log term to your business as well as happy players using it. But it looks players are not many, people in bitcoin don't like Poker at all, they prefer to play dice as I can see. So here is not as much as good public + there'r other options on the market. Players ---> deposits, you can offer bonus deposit that clears after a certain number of player points. Monthly rake leaderboard (joyjoy and bigfish) would be winning these but ya.. haha they also generate a lot of rakeback  I think is how the losses arent as many as it would be if these 2 don't rake (They play 2k/4k bb) you need to get micro players at least and offer bonuses regarding the rake they generate, by tournaments fees or pot %. I would see some future is that is reached, if you have any idea on how players we can help more than refering people we know let us know.

H4T.
newbie
Activity: 70
Merit: 0
August 25, 2017, 07:38:35 AM
After reading all recent posts I came to conclusion that some great players of BTCKINGS were unfairly overlooked so I decided to write down their names here. They are: Here4Trades, Gr1bul, simondelf, Isha, Zenzolina, KidPoker. Sorry if I forgot to mention some other great players, but those I mentioned just can't be ignored imo. I think it would be great if we had weekly and daily HALL OF FAME on BTCKINGS. What do you guys think?
yes its good idea  Smiley
hero member
Activity: 1274
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August 25, 2017, 06:39:45 AM
After reading all recent posts I came to conclusion that some great players of BTCKINGS were unfairly overlooked so I decided to write down their names here. They are: Here4Trades, Gr1bul, simondelf, Isha, Zenzolina, KidPoker. Sorry if I forgot to mention some other great players, but those I mentioned just can't be ignored imo. I think it would be great if we had weekly and daily HALL OF FAME on BTCKINGS. What do you guys think?
full member
Activity: 172
Merit: 100
August 25, 2017, 05:19:10 AM
Thank you all for your input. We really appreciate it. Finding the right combination of free-chips and freerolls to attract the most players is a tricky endeavour of course.
True, we are bleeding money with the freerolls and the bots are losing even more. We anticipated this and are willing to pay the price for a few months, hoping we’ll have enough real and depositing players by then.

Gennady, we will add your (and everyone else’s) tournament fees to your bonus points retroactively. Give us a few days, the IT guy lives a life of his own and is more often busy than not. 
full member
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August 24, 2017, 05:45:12 PM
Thank you for your input cjmoles and actmyname. The educational material is much appreciated. I spoke to our IT guy and he says unless there's back door in the Mavens software itself, it's highly unlikely anyone could hack into our system with any other software or set of tools.

Even if someone gained administrative access (which is highly unlikely) they could only alter the amount of chips which would probably be noticed by us sooner than later. All funds are stored off-line - so these can't be stolen, and there's no way they could see players' hole cards etc. That's according to our IT guy and we hope he's right  Smiley

We have added some smaller tournaments, it was a good call cjmoles. We've added 500, 1K and 2K full-tables and 6-handed, both regular and speed. We hope you guys and girls enjoy these.

can you do that we get bonus points if we pay the + 4/8% for playing tournaments?
full member
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August 24, 2017, 04:25:49 PM
You see, you enabled freerolls on your site. Though it is true that now you see an increase in the number of active players online, this is still overall a bad investment. Leaking money through the constant on-demand SnG freerolls makes it very unprofitable and you're not getting the players you want to see. Notice how despite having 10+ people on the programme, there's only 5 (with overlap) on the MICRO tables?
The main players that have been contributing rake have been there before the freerolls as well: joyjoy, bigfish, Gennady

As much as I love these freerolls, there is a point to what actmyname is saying. I like btckings, and it needs to start generating some cash. I think you should have an MTT freeroll instead of sit&goes. Not sure its possible on Mavens. You can even add a freeroll for players with more than 25 points or something. Just things like that, otherwise your spilling out like 10mBTC an hour.
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
August 24, 2017, 04:11:43 PM
You see, you enabled freerolls on your site. Though it is true that now you see an increase in the number of active players online, this is still overall a bad investment. Leaking money through the constant on-demand SnG freerolls makes it very unprofitable and you're not getting the players you want to see. Notice how despite having 10+ people on the programme, there's only 5 (with overlap) on the MICRO tables?
The main players that have been contributing rake have been there before the freerolls as well: joyjoy, bigfish, Gennady

There are more players that you haven't seen Gr1bul and I have been generating a lot of rake too regarding all other players in the soft. Sadly Gennady and BF took most of my chips. Been really unlucky lately agasint these 2. (About how to publicity the page) -> I think a well run signature camp will get more traffic (Giving out chips instead of BTC and to be able to cash them out generate a certain number of player points)., I tried on the Spanish section SAYING FACTS about the room and will  try into others forum since as well as any other player we get 30% of the rake generated by users we refer. Actmyname is right, I think freerolls on demeand is not the key but MTT's hence when the traffic expand.

BTW ; looking foward to see you on the tables Actmyname also you could help the owners badly as seems you are active in poker sections in this forum as well as other Poker 2p2 providers are scamming users regarding prior  rakeback.
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Spear the bees
August 24, 2017, 03:54:32 PM
You see, you enabled freerolls on your site. Though it is true that now you see an increase in the number of active players online, this is still overall a bad investment. Leaking money through the constant on-demand SnG freerolls makes it very unprofitable and you're not getting the players you want to see. Notice how despite having 10+ people on the programme, there's only 5 (with overlap) on the MICRO tables?
The main players that have been contributing rake have been there before the freerolls as well: joyjoy, bigfish, Gennady
legendary
Activity: 3500
Merit: 1354
August 24, 2017, 08:44:24 AM
I just registered for the PERPETUAL 1K NL Hold'em. Wish me good luck, folks. Smiley

Yesterday I took the third place in this one, won 20k sats. Hope today I can take the 1st place. 

I can't believe my eyes that there are less than 10 people on the site right now. C'mon, guys, it's fun and it's absolutely free. Register and play.  Smiley

Good luck!

The only reasons why it has low number of players is about the prize, it is 1000 chips prizepool worth 0.001btc and divided 50k 30k and 20k satoshi for 1st, 2nd, 3rd winners. It is not worth compared to the time you need to spend in playing the tournament but it is good for those who want to try and learn about poker for free.
hero member
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August 24, 2017, 08:32:21 AM
I just registered for the PERPETUAL 1K NL Hold'em. Wish me good luck, folks. Smiley

Yesterday I took the third place in this one, won 20k sats. Hope today I can take the 1st place. 

I can't believe my eyes that there are less than 10 people on the site right now. C'mon, guys, it's fun and it's absolutely free. Register and play.  Smiley

Good luck!
full member
Activity: 172
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August 24, 2017, 03:52:50 AM
Thank you for your input cjmoles and actmyname. The educational material is much appreciated. I spoke to our IT guy and he says unless there's back door in the Mavens software itself, it's highly unlikely anyone could hack into our system with any other software or set of tools.

Even if someone gained administrative access (which is highly unlikely) they could only alter the amount of chips which would probably be noticed by us sooner than later. All funds are stored off-line - so these can't be stolen, and there's no way they could see players' hole cards etc. That's according to our IT guy and we hope he's right  Smiley

We have added some smaller tournaments, it was a good call cjmoles. We've added 500, 1K and 2K full-tables and 6-handed, both regular and speed. We hope you guys and girls enjoy these.
legendary
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August 23, 2017, 02:50:05 PM
Youtube demonstration for educational purposes only: https:/ /www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys5aU5Hc624

These references are meant to show vulnerabilities and posted in an attempt to keep the game honest....please don't try to exploit the game....honest poker is the best poker.
Surely you jest. The chips are stored server-side and thus cheat engine (which alters clientside data) should not affect anything financially. Unless Maven Poker pulls data from clients (which would be very insecure) there is no feasible way of altering your chips without having administrative access.

I don't like talking to you because I think you are dishonest.....but those references were just an example of the cheat engines available....there are several other cheats the engines can exploit, such as, hole card exposure, bot manipulations....etc.  I am sure that Mavens has been providing security patches....but....nevertheless, these are concerns that need to be evaluated.
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Spear the bees
August 23, 2017, 02:36:19 PM
Youtube demonstration for educational purposes only: https:/ /www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys5aU5Hc624

These references are meant to show vulnerabilities and posted in an attempt to keep the game honest....please don't try to exploit the game....honest poker is the best poker.
Surely you jest. The chips are stored server-side and thus cheat engine (which alters clientside data) should not affect anything financially. Unless Maven Poker pulls data from clients (which would be very insecure) there is no feasible way of altering your chips without having administrative access.
legendary
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August 23, 2017, 01:43:35 PM
I like the Poker Mavens software but sets this site aside from the rest of the sites running Poker Mavens? http://www.pokermavens.net/  Isn't it easy to cheat the Mavens software with cheat engines? Are the withdrawals manual or automatic?  What kind of security to you insure? Bot detection? Collusion detection?  Multi-accounts?

Well, if you looked at other sites running the Mavens software, you'd know that many things set btckings.com apart from the rest of the sites. Design, layout, affiliate program (especially how easy it is to use - something we take a lot of pride in), automatic deposits - only one confirmation needed, great customer service, timely cashouts, various promotions, forum presence...

What exactly are 'cheat engines'?
Withdrawals are manual, but always in a timely manner.
No bot detection - we actually deploy bots as stated both on this forum and on our website.
No collusion detection. Collusion is overrated - i.e. it is really hard for 2 players to profitable collude against another players, it requires a lot of time and energy - especially if it is to go undetected by other players. If someone's going to collude at our micro games then good luck to them.
Our games are anonymous, no KYC etc., we only verify players' email address - in case they lose the password. In other words, we don't check for multi-accounts. We don't encourage them, but there's no way for us to prevent it. Anyway, it would not be in players' long term interest as they will be able to cash-in their bonus points in the future. And having 1000 bonus points in 2 separate accounts will be worth less than having 2000 bonus points in one account.

I hope this answers your question.

@iPhone 5 guy: Maven software is not really meant to be played on small mobile devices. It is possible, but we would not recommend it. Unless you're Gennady of course, that guy rocks his cell phone. BTW Gennady, why don't you buy a laptop? You sure won enough money off our poor bots to buy 10 laptops  Cheesy

Cheat engine for educational purposes only: http:/ /www.cheatengine.org/download.php  

Youtube demonstration for educational purposes only: https:/ /www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys5aU5Hc624

These references are meant to show vulnerabilities and posted in an attempt to keep the game honest....please don't try to exploit the game....honest poker is the best poker.
full member
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August 23, 2017, 01:37:28 PM
I like the Poker Mavens software but sets this site aside from the rest of the sites running Poker Mavens? http://www.pokermavens.net/  Isn't it easy to cheat the Mavens software with cheat engines? Are the withdrawals manual or automatic?  What kind of security to you insure? Bot detection? Collusion detection?  Multi-accounts?

I like it too because it is most simple and more better than other so i would like to say that yes it is interesting to play. No more objection without that am i agree broda?
legendary
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August 23, 2017, 01:19:33 PM
I can't disclose how much Gennady won (I am sure you will do it himself anyway  Grin), but he did win A LOT.

It is not good for our website that bots are being ripped apart, but we anticipated it would happen and we had no choice. Gennady deserves all the money he won, he spends 10 hours every day on our website and I hope he wins much more (not from the bots though  Grin )

Yes....I tore your bots apart too, but threw it all back before I went to bed last night.  I didn't want to exploit your system before it got anywhere....YOUR BOTS ARE PROGRAMMED VERY BADLY....we need some cheaper tournaments, though, so the freerollers can use their winnings to level up to the next tournament.
full member
Activity: 172
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August 23, 2017, 10:26:05 AM
I can't disclose how much Gennady won (I am sure you will do it himself anyway  Grin), but he did win A LOT.

It is not good for our website that bots are being ripped apart, but we anticipated it would happen and we had no choice. Gennady deserves all the money he won, he spends 10 hours every day on our website and I hope he wins much more (not from the bots though  Grin )
legendary
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August 23, 2017, 07:40:53 AM
BTW Gennady, why don't you buy a laptop? You sure won enough money off our poor bots to buy 10 laptops  Cheesy

Did he win that much against your bots? 10 laptops? Lest say the cheapest laptop probably around $200 (netbook), 10 netbooks = $2000. That's a nice amount for playing poker against bot, but is it good for your site?
hero member
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August 23, 2017, 04:52:00 AM
It's nice to see that the site has 6 to 12 real players every time lately. The tournaments start one after another and there are always people waiting to participate in the next one. Not long ago every time I checked the site it was Gennady playing with bots mostly. Smiley

Good luck at the tournaments, folks! Smiley

full member
Activity: 336
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August 22, 2017, 08:38:55 AM
I'm having issues to play while using my Iphone 5 doesn't let me go into the table. Saw all the new freerolls but can't play on my phone and can't stay on computer all the way long.


why you cant play with phone? i play every day like 10 hours only with phone xD


What I meant was that I can not join tournaments, but I can play them. Then I have to registrer from the computer and then play from the cell phone. The problem is that the looby can not be seen on my iphone. well since my screen is small (Iphone 5) otherwise I don't I can send an screenshot of it to support if it helps.

Try to make yourself best that everyone invite you for tournaments if you are going for tournaments then you are making yourself weak.
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