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Topic: bustabit.com -- The Social Gambling Game - page 25. (Read 293931 times)

full member
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February 12, 2017, 03:01:03 PM
If anybody is looking to gamble vicariously through my bonus bot, check this out:
https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=13275.msg229488#msg229488

Bot is EDGE_NXTAE.  https://www.bustabit.com/user/EDGE_NXTAE

All questions welcome.

Thanks for your interest,
LibertyNow
legendary
Activity: 1463
Merit: 1886
February 12, 2017, 02:07:38 PM
That works well for me with "gnuplot 4.6 patchlevel 6":

Mine was generated with:
Code:
$ gnuplot --version
gnuplot 5.0 patchlevel 5
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
February 12, 2017, 02:00:33 PM
Here's the gnuplot file, and the raw data if you're interested:

https://gist.github.com/RHavar/31296dd5f396bb1935a098db507509c6

That works well for me with "gnuplot 4.6 patchlevel 6":



Edit: how about trying this instead of using 60 days per 2 months:

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set xtics 365.25/6 * 24*60*60 # an average 2 months in seconds
legendary
Activity: 1463
Merit: 1886
February 12, 2017, 01:51:39 PM
(It's possible there's a problem with the data, it was provided by shiba rather than me querying the master database directly. But shiba tends to do an extremely good job of keeping in sync, as it even has logic to fetch games she missed)

Now that I think about it, that x-axis glitch it's probably caused by a few days of downtime shiba had. Then when shiba did go back online, and download those days the timestamp would've been wrong, so those days statistics are being grouped in the wrong day.

It should be pretty easy to confirm by checking the raw data for missing days, but I can't think of a 1-line bash command for that. Anyway, it's not a big deal as the end graph results should all be correct, just a few days lumped together.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
February 12, 2017, 11:16:59 AM
i have seen here huge profits,wow, i wasnt even aware of this site, of course For that great profits they should have started with big amount of btc too, rigth? ill take a look to it  soon to see how do i do it, if luck is walking by my side.
legendary
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February 12, 2017, 03:30:29 AM
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Bustabit is good for beginners because its too easy to get money there also its too easy to lost a money there. So you need strategy to not lost in a game and continue at the winning crowd.
Not sure why you replied to the first post in this thread.
There is no "not lost strategy"  and "continue the winning" like you said, This is a gambling site with 99% luck and 1% skill (I bet you never tried bustabit before)
sr. member
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Yueno
February 12, 2017, 03:19:44 AM
bustabit.com
 


Bustabit a social bitcoin gambling game in which you place a bet and cash out before the the bust event. All games are generated from provably fair distribution, and includes both a skill and luck element. In it's almost year of operation, it has become one of the most popular bitcoin gambling games, reliably handling  thousands of bitcoins in withdrawals, deposits and winnings
Bustabit is good for beginners because its too easy to get money there also its too easy to lost a money there. So you need strategy to not lost in a game and continue at the winning crowd.
legendary
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February 12, 2017, 01:11:37 AM
I'm more interested in the x-axis. What did you use to create the chart, and why did it decide to space the x-axis labels out 2 months apart except for one pair where it had them overlap each other. That's really weird.

It looks like a gnuplot chart, but I've never seen gnuplot create such a weird looking grid.

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. I've been meaning to look into it, but a bit lazy. Here's the gnuplot file, and the raw data if you're interested:

https://gist.github.com/RHavar/31296dd5f396bb1935a098db507509c6


(It's possible there's a problem with the data, it was provided by shiba rather than me querying the master database directly. But shiba tends to do an extremely good job of keeping in sync, as it even has logic to fetch games she missed)
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
February 11, 2017, 10:39:35 PM
The chart is a bit confusing, but the red line is profit and it's axis is on the right hand side.

I'm more interested in the x-axis. What did you use to create the chart, and why did it decide to space the x-axis labels out 2 months apart except for one pair where it had them overlap each other. That's really weird.

It looks like a gnuplot chart, but I've never seen gnuplot create such a weird looking grid.
legendary
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February 11, 2017, 05:13:01 PM
Since everyone loves charts as much as me, here's bustabit's historical wagered/profit chart:




I do love me a good chart. Couple questions though: Why does the profit start at a number above zero, but the amount wagered starts at zero? Does this chart reflect the beginning of bustabit operations, or just since you took over from the previous owner?
legendary
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Merit: 1189
February 11, 2017, 03:15:19 PM
Hmm, excellent feedback. thank you.

Would indeed make it hard to be smart enough.



The main problem is that it would need to be dynamic.  You need to cash out as soon as you see the top X players cash out, or asap if the top X players left typically cash out >2x, and all of those factors (except the last one) are changing every single game.
legendary
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February 11, 2017, 03:01:06 PM
Hmm, excellent feedback. thank you.

Would indeed make it hard to be smart enough.

legendary
Activity: 2030
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February 11, 2017, 02:20:55 PM
Question on the bot / scripting capabilities ----

Is it possible to make a bot based on how other players are behaving in PAST games... but even better, would it be possible to TARGET players based on their recent play and then go out right after them in the CURRENT game? (Bonus hunting)?


If so, I'd like to hire someone to build a bot. Any well known bot scripters around?

I've seen a couple of bots that did that but they are super obvious and very easy to outplay.  If you are only playing against static players (players that play BaB as if it's a dice game), you'd make money but if you are playing against thinking players you wouldn't.  It probably wouldn't be worth the money you'd spend on it.  It's notable that I haven't seen these players in awhile, so I'd assume they went busto.
legendary
Activity: 1498
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February 11, 2017, 02:00:44 PM
Question on the bot / scripting capabilities ----

Is it possible to make a bot based on how other players are behaving in PAST games... but even better, would it be possible to TARGET players based on their recent play and then go out right after them in the CURRENT game? (Bonus hunting)?


If so, I'd like to hire someone to build a bot. Any well known bot scripters around?
hero member
Activity: 491
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February 11, 2017, 03:29:34 AM
Well you guys have been around for a long time now and I have finally got my head around the game.

Rather addictive too!  Cheesy
hero member
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February 11, 2017, 01:11:42 AM
i diposited 0.03btc and now i have 0btc left :p...great eater site....maybe its my badluck or something....but i will try it again
why do you complain about loosing money if you will do it again? you should save your money and not waste it
Hahaha1 that's true, if you really want to save more money do not invest your money if you are not sure in that thing. Gambling is really risky and we are the one who decided to play a game. So we are also the one who is responsible in our loses.
legendary
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The Concierge of Crypto
February 02, 2017, 10:17:23 PM
I mean, I have a wallet on my phone with 50 BTC in it, not the phone itself is worth 50 BTC. Tongue

Yeah, your phone is worth 50 BTC ... even if it has a password or what ... of course, I'm sure, you have the private key of your phone's wallet backed up, so in case you lose it or it gets stolen, you can move your funds. (The equivalent of calling your bank to cancel your card.)
legendary
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January 30, 2017, 09:27:43 PM
All queued withdrawals will be mixed with other withdrawals, so it might help a little. But in v2 there's going to be a *lot* of additional hot wallet privacy, mainly due to pushing users into using new deposit addresses each deposit (but allowing use of old ones) and making it very difficult/impossible to cluster our hot wallet by following change outputs.

And there's a few other tricks I'm doing for user privacy, but I'll avoid revealing them here

I definitely like the addition of privacy features for deposits like this. I've always been annoyed at having to reuse the same deposit address over and over again because it can become obvious what such an address is after a few deposits.
legendary
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January 30, 2017, 02:34:55 PM
how about on withdrawal there is an option for mixing coins or automated mixing when withdrew
maybe can be small fee for service too.

All queued withdrawals will be mixed with other withdrawals, so it might help a little. But in v2 there's going to be a *lot* of additional hot wallet privacy, mainly due to pushing users into using new deposit addresses each deposit (but allowing use of old ones) and making it very difficult/impossible to cluster our hot wallet by following change outputs.

And there's a few other tricks I'm doing for user privacy, but I'll avoid revealing them here


Just out of curiosity, when you pay mining fees for a withdrawal, is that amount reflected in the website's stats page? I'm assuming it would be added to the withdrawal number and also decrease profit, however the only inputs there are "total wagered" and "total won" which gives you the net profit. Doesn't seem like your withdrawals fees paid are reflected in the site's profit, but should be since it's a cost of business.

In the stats are included the amount users pay, but it doesn't take into consideration what the actual mining fee was. So in reality the site has made a bit less money than the profit would otherwise suggest
legendary
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January 30, 2017, 11:11:16 AM
But is it not high?just to get 1 withdrawal you already spend that much. If there is a big money to be withdrawn may be it is worth but low amount will never be worth. And I ever saw other site that offer around 0.001 btc for their instant withdrawal fee and we can directly get our withdrawal. Compare to 0.003 is really a little bit high too

Btw sorry for my mis calculated bits to btc

Bustabit currently has instant withdrawals for 0.0003 BTC (300 bits) and we use quite generous fees to make sure your withdrawals don't get stuck, like is happening at a lot of other sites.

This is already pretty reasonable (it's actually a money loss for us), but in the next update: it's going to be even cheaper! Well, there will be the option to have your withdrawal cheaper if you don't need the money right away. The way we can offer that is by putting your withdrawal into a queue, and tack it onto the next (instant) withdrawal.


Both "pre-credited deposits", and "queued withdrawals" are just going to optional enhancements. For people who want to wait for 1 confirmation, or people who want instant withdrawals -- they won't be disadvantaged at all.

Just out of curiosity, when you pay mining fees for a withdrawal, is that amount reflected in the website's stats page? I'm assuming it would be added to the withdrawal number and also decrease profit, however the only inputs there are "total wagered" and "total won" which gives you the net profit. Doesn't seem like your withdrawals fees paid are reflected in the site's profit, but should be since it's a cost of business.
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