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Topic: Butterfly Labs (BFL) raided today by U.S. Marshalls 9/19/14 - page 6. (Read 20397 times)

legendary
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So far there hasn't been a single link to a government website containing a press release about any "raids".

Every "report" posted here and on reddit has been carefully crafted to sound plausible and informed.  It could very well be that this is nothing but a FUD campaign and that absolutely nothing actually happened.  (i.e. you've all been played)

Has anyone actually bothered going to BFL's offices in KC to check things out?

*sound of crickets*

Didn't think so.

At least three people are on record on this forum stating that they did indeed check it out, verifying the claim. Again, if it were not true, don't you think that Bruce or Josh would be here sticking it up our asses for spreading false rumors? They have not going on four days now since this past Friday, ergo a major event occurred at Camp BFL, and chickens are not being fed due their owner being in jail in an opposite ward where Sonny Vleisides is also currently being held. Josh is playing the Schultz card...


Posting under a screen name on a public message board is hardly "going on record".

Pics or it didn't happen.  Let's see some timestamped, geotagged selfies at BFL HQ.
vip
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So far there hasn't been a single link to a government website containing a press release about any "raids".

Every "report" posted here and on reddit has been carefully crafted to sound plausible and informed.  It could very well be that this is nothing but a FUD campaign and that absolutely nothing actually happened.  (i.e. you've all been played)

Has anyone actually bothered going to BFL's offices in KC to check things out?

*sound of crickets*

Didn't think so.

At least three people are on record on this forum stating that they did indeed check it out, verifying the claim. Again, if it were not true, don't you think that Bruce or Josh would be here sticking it up our asses for spreading false rumors? They have not going on four days now since this past Friday, ergo a major event occurred at Camp BFL, and chickens are not being fed due their owner being in jail in an opposite ward where Sonny Vleisides is also currently being held. Josh is playing the Schultz card...

legendary
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So far there hasn't been a single link to a government website containing a press release about any "raids".

Every "report" posted here and on reddit has been carefully crafted to sound plausible and informed.  It could very well be that this is nothing but a FUD campaign and that absolutely nothing actually happened.  (i.e. you've all been played)

Has anyone actually bothered going to BFL's offices in KC to check things out?

*sound of crickets*

Didn't think so.
hero member
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Glow Stick Dance!

It would be nice if you could also write an article about KNC's behavior towards their once loyal customers after they have obtained funding.

Lol! He just posted a bunch of links to articles very critical of BFL.

You obviously didn't read the articles but you could have at least read the links.
sr. member
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Why was this moved to service discussions?
They got served?
legendary
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dogiecoin.com
Why was this moved to service discussions?
member
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Look who was feeding the chickens.  Better save it for posterity.  Grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwkKNhUaZSw
vip
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And, Alex Sovu of Black Arrow, and on Matt Carson, BA's main reseller, who also maintains a growing farm at 3250 Oakland St, Suite D, Aurora, CO.

There is also the AMT Joshua Zipkin story as well *run a google search for AMT Joshua Zipkin. Plenty to tell there. Ars could do a whole column on various scammy vendors.

hero member
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There is also the AMT Joshua Zipkin story as well (run a google search for AMT Joshua Zipkin). Plenty to tell there. Ars could do a whole column on various scammy vendors.

legendary
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It would be nice if you could also write an article about KNC's behavior towards their once loyal customers after they have obtained funding.
vip
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"If it has a tail and squeaks, shoot the furry."
sr. member
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After a couple months of investigating, BFL will pay a small fine and then open up shop under another alias and do it all over again.
vip
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Just ordered another single with bitcoins ... looks like they're using bit-pay now



The blanked Bitcoin address is 1jyAQDoog4F4UFDt8nQCc2bTDGKcWydXd

People, you can't expect to protect your addresses if you talk about the amount of BTC that was involved in the transaction, and/or if you give the time of the transaction. Remember that the blockchain is public...

Note the address: 1jyAQDoog4F4UFDt8nQCc2bTDGKcWydXd

A question was once asked: 4.) Who owns the 18UxwNVLPo7vyRkCgs5wusUfhhbMYhApAu address? Is that Eclipse?

That address was first used on 2012-04-04 03:09:07 GMT as shown here: https://blockchain.info/tx/be7b4664076706e55b6c81a4790f3f0032a1f7520e8edbbc22ad5ac9eb2a3c00

It's the second transaction I choose to use for illustration purposes: https://blockchain.info/tx/301a6cc7ba014d6cd966c94398203384a23bb29696d13c8f96928cef292ead12 at 2012-04-04 11:54:36 GMT.

It received funds from https://blockchain.info/address/1CQDJ8j7qRzPqT5PfDNGxgqA1J5ovUrMCd at 2012-04-04 11:54:36 GMT.

In turn, the above received funds from https://blockchain.info/address/1FQ7RTfXxXUBrWg1UUJ6r2j8SxfMUsUEQL at 2012-04-04 03:48:49 GMT.

And finally, the above received its sole funds from https://blockchain.info/address/1jyAQDoog4F4UFDt8nQCc2bTDGKcWydXd also at 2012-04-04 03:48:49 GMT. (proof below)



https://blockchain.info/address/1jyAQDoog4F4UFDt8nQCc2bTDGKcWydXd is 100% one of BitPay's bitcoin wallet address, they even coming to the tread verifying such, so that's a given. It has had only 28 transactions to date, currently with a 0 BTC balance.

It's this address https://blockchain.info/address/1MgotZQSJC2zSim2Vp8rjmz3p6frf7EACo that was used to pay for the BitForce SHA256 Single to BFL via BitPay at 2012-04-04 01:49:29 GMT (shown below).



Pause: There's nothing nefarious about the transaction above. It's only used to show that a miner was purchased from BFL by a Bitcoiner on this forum and that BitPay was used for the transaction. That's all! It's the subsequent transactions that I'll be using to state my case.

So, to recap the transactions thus far:

1MgotZQSJC2zSim2Vp8rjmz3p6frf7EACo ---> 1jyAQDoog4F4UFDt8nQCc2bTDGKcWydXd @ 2012-04-04 01:49:29 GMT
1jyAQDoog4F4UFDt8nQCc2bTDGKcWydXd ---> 1FQ7RTfXxXUBrWg1UUJ6r2j8SxfMUsUEQL @ 2012-04-04 03:48:49 GMT
1FQ7RTfXxXUBrWg1UUJ6r2j8SxfMUsUEQL ---> 1CQDJ8j7qRzPqT5PfDNGxgqA1J5ovUrMCd @ 2012-04-04 03:48:49 GMT
1CQDJ8j7qRzPqT5PfDNGxgqA1J5ovUrMCd ---> 18UxwNVLPo7vyRkCgs5wusUfhhbMYhApAu @ 2012-04-04 11:54:36 GMT

Bombo999 posted at April 03, 2012, 09:09:31 PM CST after placing his order at 8:49:29 PM CST, 9:49:29 in Atlanta, GA, well past normal operating hours, ergo all transactions up to the last one above can safely be assumed were done automatically via some set parameters. The last transaction's time equates to 2012-04-04 @ 6:54:36 AM CST as in Kansas City.

1MgotZQSJC2zSim2Vp8rjmz3p6frf7EACo: Bombo999
1jyAQDoog4F4UFDt8nQCc2bTDGKcWydXd: BitPay
1FQ7RTfXxXUBrWg1UUJ6r2j8SxfMUsUEQL and 1CQDJ8j7qRzPqT5PfDNGxgqA1J5ovUrMCd: Assume BitPay
18UxwNVLPo7vyRkCgs5wusUfhhbMYhApAu: ? (not sure yet)

Next, we have this: https://web.archive.org/web/20130625050854/http://sonofodi.weebly.com/

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1371752720 equates to Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:25:20 GMT. On the archived site is the following pic:


https://web.archive.org/web/20130625050854/http://sonofodi.weebly.com/

Note the flood and golf course. Now, watch this: Deer Creek Golf Course flooded by rain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm4aEeHJ_4E According to the following, the flood occurred on the morning of May 31, 2013: http://www.kshb.com/news/news-photo-gallery/photos-high-water-in-and-around-kansas-city-after-morning-thunderstorm-may-31-2013

Now, check this out: http://static.squarespace.com/static/52829703e4b0920e1902d6c4/t/5292ceebe4b0af26b639a671/1385352939859/EOYC%20BoD%20Minutes%205.20.13.pdf

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Paul   Foltz   (Fundraising)
- Paul   now   has   tax-exempt   form   for   sales   tax.   Alec   will   attach   the   form   on   the   
e-mail   with   the   minutes.   
- Paul   Foltz,   Bob   Andrews   and   Tom   Vleisides   (Annunciation)   have   been   
working   to   complete   EOYC   Camp   Policies   Document   that   Annunciation   has   
been   requesting.   It   is   close   to   completion.   
o Intro   paragraph:   Legal   names   of   KC   churches   will   be   included.
o 2.   Insurance:   Last   line,   we   would   like   to   drop   “per   person”.
o 4.   Staffing:   “best   effort”   was   changed   to   “EOYC   shall   provide”.
- Golf   Tourney   info:   We   are   going   to   move   to   Deer   Creek.   Cost   is   $40   per   head.   
Drink   and   food   can   be   donated   for   $10   per   person
- Sept.   28th is   the   date.   Alec   will   get   the   contract   signed   this   week.

From the above, we've gleaned:

  • May 31, 2013: Flood in KC
  • June 20, 2013: Sonofodi site created
  • June 25, 2013: Sonofodi site archived
  • A Vleisides, as most are, are affiliated with the Greek Orthodox Church in KC
  • Tom Vleisides was instrumental in a fundraising campaign in said church
  • The fundraising event consisted of a Golf outing at Deer Creek
  • Deer Creek was flooded prior to the creation of the Sonofodi site owned by Sonny Vleisides
  • Sonny Vleisides is related to Tom Vleisides

The only thing I've yet to accomplish is find the house depicted and its owner, connecting said to Sonny. The one thing we can probably say for sure is that the flood depicted in the image occurred on May 31, 2013, in KC.

Now, back to that address: https://web.archive.org/web/20130625050854/http://sonofodi.weebly.com/

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1Hq2t6dJcxqZjGda919p4c4tmopNRLciAJ  - chip sales

https://blockchain.info/address/1Hq2t6dJcxqZjGda919p4c4tmopNRLciAJ has only 4 transactions. Here's the first one: https://blockchain.info/tx/ce1000c2b32d26f472730d9e6e0c92da946c7beda8e7bdbe654194ea4925f49d at 2013-06-25 04:15:52

As pointed out by some other - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bfl-fucked-us-over-again-nsfw-150803 - the 1Hq2t6dJcxqZjGda919p4c4tmopNRLciAJ bitcoin wallet address was never advertised elsewhere excepted on the archived site linked above, yet it was able to garner funds prior to the creation of Sonny Vleisides' site to the tune of 159.9273 BTC.

Looking at the final three transactions: https://blockchain.info/address/1Hq2t6dJcxqZjGda919p4c4tmopNRLciAJ



Note the 1QAHVyRzkmD4j1pU5W89htZ3c6D6E7iWDs bitcoin wallet address. Also note the 1DiPE4TnBczmPVoy53tffrd1iNPq87B3PB address: https://blockchain.info/address/1DiPE4TnBczmPVoy53tffrd1iNPq87B3PB

Also 12uyvDAC8LNU8yGcW8dYLGPToSD2JenVfH: https://blockchain.info/address/12uyvDAC8LNU8yGcW8dYLGPToSD2JenVfH

Both addresses (in bold) funds go to 1QAHVyRzkmD4j1pU5W89htZ3c6D6E7iWDs the very next day as seen here: https://blockchain.info/tx/827063279c43c50c3f4c690dbf491071386d80068115f48d0beee7e80b4c7f2f



Doing a taint analysis of the 1QAHVyRzkmD4j1pU5W89htZ3c6D6E7iWDs bitcoin wallet address, we discover: https://blockchain.info/taint/1QAHVyRzkmD4j1pU5W89htZ3c6D6E7iWDs



Notice the 18UxwNVLPo7vyRkCgs5wusUfhhbMYhApAu bitcoin wallet address at the very top? That's the same that Bombo999's bitcoins gravitated to within hours of him transferring coins via BitPay. (scroll up a tad if you missed it)

Hopefully, I've established that both Bombo999 bitcoins used to purchase a miner from BFL and Sonny Vleisides' 1Hq2t6dJcxqZjGda919p4c4tmopNRLciAJ address used to amass BTC from the sale of chips, gravitated to the 1QAHVyRzkmD4j1pU5W89htZ3c6D6E7iWDs bitcoin wallet address.

Now, what else is the 1QAHVyRzkmD4j1pU5W89htZ3c6D6E7iWDs address known for?

This: https://blockchain.info/tx/1b6ea350c094071412df1f801651263fd65ffa0b89ad6c8626ceeca8755f50bc



As seen here - http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11283333.htm - the 1QAHVyRzkmD4j1pU5W89htZ3c6D6E7iWDs address was used as the infamous $1M USD down payment for the purchase of BFL Monarchs by HashTrade. But, clearly that's an impossibility, for that wallet address either belongs to BFL or BitPay, and I'm assuming the former. If the latter, then there be some 'splainin' to do on BitPay's part. And we sure the hell don't want that, for they're one of the few good guys playin' here in the Bitcoin space, and I love them, Tony, et al.

The bottom line is that NO FUCKIN' WAY does the 1QAHVyRzkmD4j1pU5W89htZ3c6D6E7iWDs bitcoin wallet address belong to HashTrade, and we can safely assume that BFL and HashTrade were/are pullin' a fast one, and, furthermore, BFL has a stash of bitcoins that's being kept from pryin' eyes, e.g., the IRS and Sonny's probation officer, for clearly there's some money laundering going on here, and you can bet your bottom satoshi that Josh Zerlan is smack dab in the middle of it.

It was Coinware's HashTrade, et al., that I was just starting to dig into when Josh, once again, called me out as a liar, going as far as offering up a 1 BTC bet that I couldn't go a month without lying. I proposed 10 BTC and two months, whereupon the bet was sealed. Then, in spite of others telling me to hush for two months, I continued to post even more, but had to be very mindful of what to post in BFL's threads for fear of losing the bet, but I did post plenty of safe posts. Come January, Josh did pay up, but for two months, then forward for a few more months, CoinWare, et al., was not discussed much till most recently, now that I've revived it.

If this goes to trail, at its end there'll be 12 angry monumental assholes convening for only a short while prior to coming back to the court room with their verdict - GUILTY!

~Bruno Kucinskas

EDIT: I forgot to add an important piece of info. The 18UxwNVLPo7vyRkCgs5wusUfhhbMYhApAu bitcoin wallet address is where the 10 BTC that Josh paid me to satisfy the bet, albeit not directly, but after about a dozen hops.
hero member
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BFL is nearing the end of their scammy days. YAY!!

legendary
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probably raided by Monsanto....  they heard BFL had Monarchs that were alive...  gotta stop that quick Smiley

+1

Monsanto could be losing it's top spot as "most evil company".......but I doubt it.

To those who are thinking WTF?  Google is your friend  Wink

"The World According to Monsanto"...watch it & learn something  Wink
full member
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probably raided by Monsanto....  they heard BFL had Monarchs that were alive...  gotta stop that quick Smiley

+1

Monsanto could be losing it's top spot as "most evil company".......but I doubt it.

To those who are thinking WTF?  Google is your friend  Wink
hero member
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probably raided by Monsanto....  they heard BFL had Monarchs that were alive...  gotta stop that quick Smiley
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I asked on the BFL forums after I saw a few posts deleted on the subject. BFL Josh came forward and replied to my post. Make of it what you will.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/the-monarch-discussion/8836-reports-bfl-have-been-raided-us-marshals-official-statement-request.html#post86110

Quote from: BFL_Josh
We typically don't comment on bitcoin talk rumors or speculation.


They deleted that thread also.

Edit: It has been restored. Hmmmm.
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