Butterfly Labs (BFL) raided today by U.S. Marshalls 9/19/14 - page 8.

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Quote from: opieum2 on September 19, 2014, 09:29:55 PM

Josh Zerlan used up that one phone call from prison on calling his forum mod to delete the thread lol.

The general consensus is that Josh wasn't one of those forced inside to only see out. But, it's a safe assumption his name and the company he represents, Butterfly Labs (BFL), is trashed from this day forward.

I honestly can't envision a scenario where the doors are opened come Monday and everybody's working like today didn't happen. It's also probably a safe bet that some suppliers have yet to be paid, and won't want to ship more parts to an entity currently enjoying the wrong kind of limelight.

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Josh Zerlan used up that one phone call from prison on calling his forum mod to delete the thread lol.

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Quote from: Gleb Gamow on September 19, 2014, 06:05:34 PM

Finally, BFL's forum is getting up to speed: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-and-miscellaneous/8832-rumor-raid.html

Here's what I predict:

BFL, were you raided?

It wasn't a raid. We invited the FTC, US Marshals and the FBI to tour our plant to prove to them that we truly are the most trustworthy Bitcoin entity in the world. Later, we treated them to lunch, had a few laughs at the expense of them monumental assholes over at BCT, then they went on their merry way.

That's the good news. Now, the bad news. Due to shortage of parts...

Looks like BFL took 'er down:

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Quote from: QuestionAuthority on September 19, 2014, 06:40:25 PM

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Quote from: Inaba on August 16, 2014, 12:16:12 AM
what the fuck is with you? ... I knew you were incapable of not lying ... Go fuck with your barn wood ... stop posting blatantly false information (What specifically is blatantly false ? We're going to need details and clarification if he's calling you a liar like that, Bruno -C) ... Why can you not just keep your mouth shut on occasion? ...
I'm not trying to be a dick about it...
but do you have a mental illness ...
Did your father or mother not give you enough attention ... Are you just a drama queen at heart ... but the sad part about it is, I'm sure you'll lie about that as well

Quote from: Xian01 on August 16, 2014, 04:30:32 AM
You are a habitual liar ... You post fake information, lies and bullshit constantly ... You did not strike a nerve at all (... then why is he evidently so bent-out-of-shape ? -C) ... posting my personal information (But it's ok when you do it, right Josh ? -C) ... no matter how I try to accommodate your disabilities ... You are a sad, pathetic human being ... I don't want to know the answer you'd give me... it would be either self delusional or false anyway

Comedy Gold - LOL

Josh is such a raging dickhead.

First time posted, but this is what Josh sent me on the 16th (the other day).

Quote from: Inaba on September 16, 2014, 10:50:26 AM

So you never did answer me as to why you can't stick to posting facts. Why do you continually resort to lying over and over in your posts about me and BFL? That's a serious question. Why are you incapable of posting facts... I ask this in the vein of you claiming not to be a drama queen. If you were really in it for the people and were trying to perform a service, you'd stick to facts and truth. But you post lies and false information in almost every post. How is that not being a drama queen?

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Just one more to highlight what a swell person Josh is:

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Quote from: Josh on July 10, 2012, 07:20:58 PM
Fuck you, you little cumstain. I hope you die in a fire.

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Quote from: Inaba on August 16, 2014, 12:16:12 AM
what the fuck is with you? ... I knew you were incapable of not lying ... Go fuck with your barn wood ... stop posting blatantly false information (What specifically is blatantly false ? We're going to need details and clarification if he's calling you a liar like that, Bruno -C) ... Why can you not just keep your mouth shut on occasion? ...
I'm not trying to be a dick about it...
but do you have a mental illness ...
Did your father or mother not give you enough attention ... Are you just a drama queen at heart ... but the sad part about it is, I'm sure you'll lie about that as well

Quote from: Xian01 on August 16, 2014, 04:30:32 AM
You are a habitual liar ... You post fake information, lies and bullshit constantly ... You did not strike a nerve at all (... then why is he evidently so bent-out-of-shape ? -C) ... posting my personal information (But it's ok when you do it, right Josh ? -C) ... no matter how I try to accommodate your disabilities ... You are a sad, pathetic human being ... I don't want to know the answer you'd give me... it would be either self delusional or false anyway

Comedy Gold - LOL

Josh is such a raging dickhead.

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Finally, BFL's forum is getting up to speed: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-and-miscellaneous/8832-rumor-raid.html

Here's what I predict:

BFL, were you raided?

It wasn't a raid. We invited the FTC, US Marshals and the FBI to tour our plant to prove to them that we truly are the most trustworthy Bitcoin entity in the world. Later, we treated them to lunch, had a few laughs at the expense of them monumental assholes over at BCT, then they went on their merry way.

That's the good news. Now, the bad news. Due to shortage of parts...

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I'm pretty sure the FTC is just doing some following up: http://www.coindesk.com/butterflylabs-customers-appeal-to-ftc-1-million-missing-orders/

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Quote from: PolarPoint on September 19, 2014, 04:39:43 PM

Coinfire phoned the Marshals and FTC, no confirmations on the raid:
http://coinfire.cf/2014/09/19/developing-story-usms-ftc-raid-butterfly-labs/

They likely won't either. Law enforcement seldom comments on ongoing investigations. EVEN if they did raid them, they would not tell anyone even the press...especially the press during the middle of the raid. At least not until they are ready to make a formal announcement. It would jeopardize all sorts of things in a prosecutors investigation. Being that there appear to be reliable leaks coming from this it did probably happen. Whether it was marshals or FBI (it seems more likely they would have as wire fraud is their area).

FYI basis for thinking the FBI did this and would make sense Marshals are not actually involved. http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/white_collar

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Quote from: QuestionAuthority on September 19, 2014, 04:42:35 PM

Quote from: Searing on September 19, 2014, 01:46:55 PM

Well seems just now that BFL was raided and shut down by US Marsalls...add details here as this story happens...hope
it is not FUD ..BFL should have been shut down 1 year ago imho

here are the links (so far) feel free to add other links as they appear

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8891220

and

http://cryptogeeks.com/bitcoin-butterfly-labs-bfl-raided-us-marshals-today

anyway not sure if this is true yet...we will know soon I guess

edit: if this all is FUD I will delete this thread ..feel free to post any info you deem correct on this whole possiblity

Let me quote Inaba (Josh) on this matter from this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1229652

"I repeat: What the fuck are you talking about? If you need to, please pay someone to translate your mad ramblings into English."

"Well there you go... it's not half the community and the only way it would "feel the same way you do" is if half of them lived in their parents basement and had an orange saq.

Go on, back up what you say. I'll take anything.. give me one small fact that you have to back up anything you've said.

I predict from you: WAAAAAAAAA"

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22I+am+FURRY%2C+hear+me+squeak!%22

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Quote from: Searing on September 19, 2014, 01:46:55 PM

Well seems just now that BFL was raided and shut down by US Marsalls...add details here as this story happens...hope
it is not FUD ..BFL should have been shut down 1 year ago imho

here are the links (so far) feel free to add other links as they appear

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8891220

and

http://cryptogeeks.com/bitcoin-butterfly-labs-bfl-raided-us-marshals-today

anyway not sure if this is true yet...we will know soon I guess

edit: if this all is FUD I will delete this thread ..feel free to post any info you deem correct on this whole possiblity

Let me quote Inaba (Josh) on this matter from this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1229652

"I repeat: What the fuck are you talking about? If you need to, please pay someone to translate your mad ramblings into English."

"Well there you go... it's not half the community and the only way it would "feel the same way you do" is if half of them lived in their parents basement and had an orange saq.

Go on, back up what you say. I'll take anything.. give me one small fact that you have to back up anything you've said.

I predict from you: WAAAAAAAAA"

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Coinfire phoned the Marshals and FTC, no confirmations on the raid:
http://coinfire.cf/2014/09/19/developing-story-usms-ftc-raid-butterfly-labs/

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Clueless!

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Quote from: .....Really? on September 19, 2014, 02:33:43 PM

I see OgNasty has posted on BFL forums: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/the-monarch-discussion/8831-raided-us-marshals.html

No response yet........probably get deleted soon anyways......

It seems the thread was deleted already "Invalid Thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator"

thread at the top of the post still seems to come up...although one is still just a title

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so there are two kind of ppl, those who got their monarhs and those who never will... Roll Eyes

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Quote from: .....Really? on September 19, 2014, 02:33:43 PM

I see OgNasty has posted on BFL forums: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/the-monarch-discussion/8831-raided-us-marshals.html

No response yet........probably get deleted soon anyways......

It seems the thread was deleted already "Invalid Thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator"

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BFL did everyone dirty. I am not sure how they have stayed in business this long ? Who is buying BFL hardware directly from them ? I doubt we have seen the last of BFL, they are like zombies in a horror movie, they just wont' die. You can shoot them, light them on fire, but they just keep coming.....

Not much protecting us from BFL Zomies !

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Quote from: .....Really? on September 19, 2014, 02:33:43 PM

I see OgNasty has posted on BFL forums: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/the-monarch-discussion/8831-raided-us-marshals.html

No response yet........probably get deleted soon anyways......

Let's hope these are Josh's famous last words to be framed for eternity: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/the-monarch-discussion/8782-monarch-software-installation-4.html#post86091

"Mr. Zerlan, please log off from Minecraft, and slowing step away from your computer."

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Quote from: Searing on September 19, 2014, 01:46:55 PM

Well seems just now that BFL was raided and shut down by US Marsalls...add details here as this story happens...hope
it is not FUD ..BFL should have been shut down 1 year ago imho

here are the links (so far) feel free to add other links as they appear

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8891220

and

http://cryptogeeks.com/bitcoin-butterfly-labs-bfl-raided-us-marshals-today

anyway not sure if this is true yet...we will know soon I guess

edit: if this all is FUD I will delete this thread ..feel free to post any info you deem correct on this whole possiblity

I can only confirm that the original source is extremely reliable, not one to spread FUD, and, BTW, it wasn't I who leaked the info. His (is a guy, is all I'm saying) sources were probably just as reliable, being friends of his, and hopefully later learn are/were moles at Camp BFL.

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If this is true, I wonder what will happen to all their equipment and their cloud mining scheme? Hopefully, it will be used to compensate those of us that got royally fucked. (which is the grand majority)

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It would be interesting if it is Marshalls. IF this was based on wire fraud, it would be the FBI there unless there was some other crime committed that falls under the marshals. Exciting if they got raiding. Means the govt actually is taking action to deal with this. Hopefully other US "vendors" are on notice, I for one am hoping for an AMT and Josh Zipkin take down next.

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