Topic: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM - page 6. (Read 415651 times)

Oh my God, he has a Tesla? I'm so jealous. I wanted a Model X but couldn't quite come up with the $137,000 they wanted for it.

http://www.butterflylabs.com/current_refund_efforts/


You are so welcome, Sonny Vleisides. BTW, how's the queue position working out for the last time an entity of yours folded up shop with its investors waiting for your promised refunds? For those playing at home, the answer is still zero (as in 0 for those into real numbers and not worded numbers). BitcoinTalks' very own Johann Gevers - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/johann-gevers-67553 - conducted the audit shown here: http://web.archive.org/web/20030603182935/http://www.lfcfa.com/founders/index.html

http://www.offshorealert.com/forums.aspx?g=posts&t=37064

Maybe he's been busy manning his now non-ringing phone, then on the day that iFLY called, he totally forgot about this place as he donned his rainbow-color flysuit and headed down to iFLY to give his long-awaited interview.

Nice to see ya back snagglebone. Where have ya been? At the courthouse, perhaps? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12916504

Yeah, but he won't be able to procreate for long given his health issues. Soon, Sonny Vleisides will be in a wheelchair just like he real dad was the last time he entered a courtroom and while he served out the rest of his life in prison.

I am not surprised this criminal was busy procreating. With all the BTC he funneled...

Meanwhile, the YouTube videos I choose to watch are presenting me ads of iFLY in Kansas for some fucked up reason. I swear I thought I recognized one of the dudes in the commercial playing with the kids.

The follow review is what I would love to read:

Aime B: I just took the kids to McDonald's and the new guy named Josh was so kind to us, especially the kids. I'm glad that McD's hires those special to sweep the floors and clean the toilets. I was so amazed with him, I struck up a conversation and asked how long does he plan on staying with McD's. He said two weeks, give or take a lifetime.

You know there's a cliche at play here "always look at the brighter side of life" or is that monty python?

a) I've never ordered a BFL product.

b) This guy is a Romanian Scammer (pro-tip hide your money):


Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/prince-charles/9656769/Prince-Charles-heir-to-Draculas-blood-line.html

c) The Earth is fucking flat.

d) Imagine what you'll know tomorrow as a result of Application Specific Integrated Circuits?



e) Having no dog in this fight I must say there was some feeling of "stress relief" watching the FTC fairy swat BFL with a blunt object.

The FTC didn't even make a recovery, it was the local receiver and his contractors (whom he paid ridiculous amounts to) that recovered the only money. Meanwhile the taxpayer footed the bill for the FTC, its contractors, its multiple lawyers, the court, the judge, the prematurely lost jobs, the loss of tax revenue. All BFL customers lost, including those that were receiving cloud mining, already made hardware, soon to be made hardware and those in the refund queue. Even those customers who filed a class action via Wood Law got screwed by the FTC.

I'm pretty surprised that Helen W(r)ong wasn't fired for bringing this case in a situation where the people she was claiming to protect had zero chance of benefiting from her actions. She's now spinning herself as a bitcoin aficionado and doing TED talks, its rather sick. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6PAazB5_f4

FTFY

Does anyone know how many BTC had the FTC requested from BFL?

Yes.  The FTC thought they would step in and save the day for all the BFL customers.  Instead they showed why most of us believe the government is a useless leech.  The fact they could only get $4,000 from this case and those involved are still walking among us is nothing short of a disgrace. 

Hidden assets? Didn't some customers lose millions in USD had mined coins been flipped at the right times etc? Problems with withholding and usage of money printing hardware prior to excessively late delivery or non-delivery/no-refund to the mint are normally a serious infraction of the law. It seems like there's a double standard here with digital currency. Currently 2.8 BTC buys an Oz of gold or about $1200 USD.

most accurate summary i hve seen so far.

yeah but if the FTC finds any 'hidden' assets the agreement is moot..(roflmao...heh like the FTC is gonna after this settlement actually watch to see where all their btc hidden
coins/addresses are...NOT)

yep...hate to admit it ...but they really pretty much  got away scott free .smelling freshly showered after a massage .that did not 'quite' get the kinks out.but good enough

(as they hum out the door...life is not perfect ..but close)

Their ONLY regret IMHO is giving back refunds for 3 weeks in a panic around April 2014 (How I got my 8.3k back 1year and 20 days later) to try to keep the FTC away....big whoop they could have not bothered and had even more money.......so we at least 'upset' them with that small change that got away ....a bit of 'drizzle' to their rainbow winnings.

(knowing them that is what they are 'obsessing about....the inconvenience..to their 'egos' and in their 'minds' anyway ..their stellar reputations ... .....sheesh!

Sad part is they treated us like 'minions/serfs' and the FTC just pretty much put the official seal of approval on our status in all this (we could make logos)

well I got a pretty good education from watching the BFL ASIC company and the ASIC company of KNC and others ..that 'consumer protection' in the world is a myth

UNLESS

you are a Corporation


I now fully expect to see pictures on this thread of the whole group 'waving' foam pitchforks of the FU customers of BFL variety in our faces.....its been that kinda week.

Great! The FTC is also allowing Sonny Vleisides to father future scammers. The count's now up to three.

Does the last name of Angela Gambino Chambers do anything for you fellow sleuths? No, not the middle name, albeit that, too, elicits emotions, but not as lofty.

Hey, let's go hang out in the Pirate@40 or bitcoinica thread. lol

Actually, I only care because it keeps showing up in "new unread" and there's already enough crap to wade through.

FTFY

Butter who? Is anyone really still talking about them? They're gone, newbies don't need to be protected from them, if you haven't got your money back or a product by now you aren't going to and there's nothing left to care about. Why is there any activity in these BFL threads at all? This is comparable to bitching about vinyl records or VHS tapes dying out. It's over, move on or seek out a vinyl record support group.

So....

• the FTC came in and stopped the company trading
• The FTC then appointed a receiver who charged 7 figure sums a month, while not allowing shipments to customers
• The FTC failed to prove what they wanted to.
• The FTC bankrupts BFL.
• The FTC 'wins' by getting them to pay $4000......
• BFL loses its company in the process
• Any and all customers are left with $0 or hardware

*slow clap*