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vip
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February 19, 2016, 02:28:38 AM

Last updated 02/18/2016

Due to FTC activity and subsequent receivership and legal fees over the last year, Butterfly Labs has insufficient funds to pay out all refund requests at the present time.

BFL Wins!

Another fail for the US agencies.

Enjoy your back full of dicks Josh!

So now we can probably expect Josh back in forums here again......I'm calling such

well learned one thing ..no such thing as consumer protection in the usa anymore..unless you are protected by a corporation and it takes the fall....I miss the news program "60 minutes"
in the 70's / 80's when they would investigate and make the CE0 cry on camera because he is going to prison ..them days are past..but what is it 62 people own the equiv
of 1/2 of all the worlds wealth (or at least the equiv of 1/2 the world population)

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jan/18/richest-62-billionaires-wealthy-half-world-population-combined

so maybe this is not so surprising...can you imagine how much money would be made if Satoshi was a banker and patented bitcoin and the banks had exclusive use to it

prob be like 11 people owning 1/2 the wealth now instead

got to move to Iceland...all their bankers went to jail..the banks ate the losses....need to go to a sensible country (note : option if trump elected) don't hurt that

the country is in the top 3 or so of most beautiful women in the world......hmmmmmmm

hey josh ...lurking on here ...at least I got a refund out of you on BFL's panic refund 3 week spree when you tried to 'stave off' the FTC investigation ...so I got

my FULL 8.3k refund 1 year and 20 days later...also got into KNC miners to make up the losses I thought were gone forever with BFL ...so as a result I ROI'd and

made more then double the BTC I would have met..if you'd been in an honest company......so FU I win too you dick Smiley

sorry......just a preemptive 'strike' before all the trolls come back into this thread .....

Fuckin' great! Bruce Peterson is 5..... 4.... 3...
copper member
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February 19, 2016, 01:38:44 AM

Last updated 02/18/2016

Due to FTC activity and subsequent receivership and legal fees over the last year, Butterfly Labs has insufficient funds to pay out all refund requests at the present time.

BFL Wins!

Another fail for the US agencies.

Enjoy your back full of dicks Josh!

So now we can probably expect Josh back in forums here again......I'm calling such

well learned one thing ..no such thing as consumer protection in the usa anymore..unless you are protected by a corporation and it takes the fall....I miss the news program "60 minutes"
in the 70's / 80's when they would investigate and make the CE0 cry on camera because he is going to prison ..them days are past..but what is it 62 people own the equiv
of 1/2 of all the worlds wealth (or at least the equiv of 1/2 the world population)

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jan/18/richest-62-billionaires-wealthy-half-world-population-combined

so maybe this is not so surprising...can you imagine how much money would be made if Satoshi was a banker and patented bitcoin and the banks had exclusive use to it

prob be like 11 people owning 1/2 the wealth now instead

got to move to Iceland...all their bankers went to jail..the banks ate the losses....need to go to a sensible country (note : option if trump elected) don't hurt that

the country is in the top 3 or so of most beautiful women in the world......hmmmmmmm

hey josh ...lurking on here ...at least I got a refund out of you on BFL's panic refund 3 week spree when you tried to 'stave off' the FTC investigation ...so I got

my FULL 8.3k refund 1 year and 20 days later...also got into KNC miners to make up the losses I thought were gone forever with BFL ...so as a result I ROI'd and

made more then double the BTC I would have met..if you'd been in an honest company......so FU I win too you dick Smiley

sorry......just a preemptive 'strike' before all the trolls come back into this thread .....
vip
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February 19, 2016, 12:09:38 AM


It is pathetic that he is still listing Butterfly Labs as his employer, in addition to his new gig.


Hey, I wonder if there's any reviews of Josh Zerlan at iFLY.

Hey, I found one: http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g38969-d9801022-r345615920-IFLY_Kansas_City-Overland_Park_Kansas.html

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“iFly is a must for the entire family!”

5 of 5 starsReviewed 1 week ago via mobile

iFly is a very welcome addition to Kansas City's list of 'things to do'! We have already made several trips to fly in the tunnel and we are addicted!! It is an awesome activity for our kids. The thing that makes this place even better than most is the enthusiasm of the staff. From the moment you walk in it is obvious that everyone there sincerely loves their job. Josh Z is coaching the kids and is fabulous with them. He makes it really fun and encourages them the whole way through. A truly positive experience. Highly recommend both iFly and Josh Z!

Visited February 2016



I'd say that somebody better tell Aime B about Josh's rainbow poodles. I mean, she entrusting a strange (pun intended) man to touch her kids and all, so she best have done a background check on him.
vip
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February 18, 2016, 07:48:30 PM

Last updated 02/18/2016

Due to FTC activity and subsequent receivership and legal fees over the last year, Butterfly Labs has insufficient funds to pay out all refund requests at the present time.

BFL Wins!

Another fail for the US agencies.

Enjoy your back full of dicks Josh!

Looks like the only person who successfully got served by the courts pertaining to BFL was me. Now, I come within 500 feet (or is it yards?) of Josh Zerlan walking his rainbow poodles in his BTC-House neighborhood.
legendary
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February 18, 2016, 03:51:19 PM

Last updated 02/18/2016

Due to FTC activity and subsequent receivership and legal fees over the last year, Butterfly Labs has insufficient funds to pay out all refund requests at the present time.

BFL Wins!

Another fail for the US agencies.

Enjoy your back full of dicks Josh!
vip
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February 18, 2016, 02:19:26 PM


It is pathetic that he is still listing Butterfly Labs as his employer, in addition to his new gig.



Josh: Welcome to iFLY. Ticket please. Welcome to iFLY. Ticket please.
Manager: Josh, we've noticed that you've been putting untorn tickets in your pockets. Further, we found that you are seeing them on the Internet. What say you?
Josh: You guys are monumental assholes incapable of telling the truth. I'm giving my two-week notice starting now.
vip
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February 11, 2016, 08:09:25 PM
Bankruptcy due to unexpected taxes or legal fees is the ideal excuse.   In this case I wonder if the legal firm was a friend of the family and perhaps a clever way to extract money, removing cash from a failing company is a jailable offence otherwise afaik

Reminds me of Lehmans which still operates and may even repay all its debts, its just it might take 30 years

Rest assured that the legal firm was not a friend of the family... I stand corrected after I Googled Vleisides law firm Kansas.
STT
legendary
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February 11, 2016, 06:53:10 PM
Bankruptcy due to unexpected taxes or legal fees is the ideal excuse.   In this case I wonder if the legal firm was a friend of the family and perhaps a clever way to extract money, removing cash from a failing company is a jailable offence otherwise afaik

Reminds me of Lehmans which still operates and may even repay all its debts, its just it might take 30 years
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Clueless!
February 11, 2016, 07:19:38 AM
anything going on with the court case against BFL yet (so out of the loop)

I thought it was over now. Is there a new case in a different court?

er huh? so far out of the loop ...if all is done and settled what was the outcome?

(i assume no one went to jail or lost their $$$ just bfl corp got hit....or I'd have heard about such)

I suppose I should use 'google' or something instead ..but jeez you'd think there would be something new about anything of note on this thread?


well I did trip over this

http://www.butterflylabs.com/current_refund_efforts/

basically 1/18/16 the FTC was a 'meanie' to BTC and they lost all their money on legal fees etc ...so don't blame them (the victim bfl) blame FTC! (sheesh) or what I take away from it.

legendary
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February 10, 2016, 08:43:26 AM
anything going on with the court case against BFL yet (so out of the loop)

I thought it was over now. Is there a new case in a different court?

in two weeksTM

 Grin

You must have studied murrican government in college because you know the secret answer. lol
legendary
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February 10, 2016, 08:15:53 AM
anything going on with the court case against BFL yet (so out of the loop)

I thought it was over now. Is there a new case in a different court?

in two weeksTM

 Grin
legendary
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February 10, 2016, 08:05:41 AM
anything going on with the court case against BFL yet (so out of the loop)

I thought it was over now. Is there a new case in a different court?
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Clueless!
February 10, 2016, 07:37:18 AM
anything going on with the court case against BFL yet (so out of the loop)
vip
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December 08, 2015, 10:33:40 AM
Now that they can't accept pre-orders, they have no way to perpetuate their scam.

You're awfully optimistic there. Someone like Sonny Vleisides, Jeff Ownby or Josh Zerlan would have many more scams to share with us after BFL..

I still remember like it was yesterday when BFL first came on the scene:

Random Bitcoiner: Somebody needs to go to Kansas City to their office to see if it's real.
Josh Zerlan: No need! I just looked out my window and saw that BFL's office is located across the street from my office in the Section 8 housing project. I'll snap some pics to prove to you guys that I'm not lying.

JZ: See, pics of outside the building of BFL's office. They's for-real!

JZ: Yep, I'll be testing BFL's first model at my data center. They won't get nothing past me. Proof forthcoming.
newbie
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December 07, 2015, 08:36:41 PM
Now that they can't accept pre-orders, they have no way to perpetuate their scam.

You're awfully optimistic there. Someone like Sonny Vleisides, Jeff Ownby or Josh Zerlan would have many more scams to share with us after BFL..
vip
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December 07, 2015, 06:07:28 PM
If they really intended to be thieving scumbags why not just let a few million dollars in preorder btc pour in and retire to a non-extradition beach house somewhere?

There're lots of other kinds of fraud. From day one their MO was this. Over-promise and tie up pre-order funds so that customers couldn't get refunds and/or purchase competitors' products. We even have Josh on record admitting that the delivery dates being promised were impossible. That makes them thieving scumbags.

Oh, I know they're all thieving scumbags. Inaba should be burned at the stake just for being a horrible excuse for a human being. I just think they put in far too much effort for a preorder scam to be their original intention. They should have claimed that their facility was in some remote location that would preclude anyone from visiting them then run the preorder scam until it was bled dry. Why spend all that money to make, what I consider to be, a pretty good product? 

Don't forget all them backdoor dealings and mining on the side with pre-paid-for miners directing mine bitcoins to who-knows-where.
legendary
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December 07, 2015, 05:05:06 PM
Why spend all that money to make, what I consider to be, a pretty good product? 

That's the genius of their scam. With a possible real product, they are mostly safe from the authorities. With a token effort at producing a real product, prosecuting them becomes quite difficult. That all hinged on pre-order funds. Now that they can't accept pre-orders, they have no way to perpetuate their scam.
legendary
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December 07, 2015, 03:35:55 PM
If they really intended to be thieving scumbags why not just let a few million dollars in preorder btc pour in and retire to a non-extradition beach house somewhere?

There're lots of other kinds of fraud. From day one their MO was this. Over-promise and tie up pre-order funds so that customers couldn't get refunds and/or purchase competitors' products. We even have Josh on record admitting that the delivery dates being promised were impossible. That makes them thieving scumbags.

Oh, I know they're all thieving scumbags. Inaba should be burned at the stake just for being a horrible excuse for a human being. I just think they put in far too much effort for a preorder scam to be their original intention. They should have claimed that their facility was in some remote location that would preclude anyone from visiting them then run the preorder scam until it was bled dry. Why spend all that money to make, what I consider to be, a pretty good product? 
legendary
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December 07, 2015, 12:34:20 PM
If they really intended to be thieving scumbags why not just let a few million dollars in preorder btc pour in and retire to a non-extradition beach house somewhere?

There're lots of other kinds of fraud. From day one their MO was this. Over-promise and tie up pre-order funds so that customers couldn't get refunds and/or purchase competitors' products. We even have Josh on record admitting that the delivery dates being promised were impossible. That makes them thieving scumbags.
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