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October 13, 2023, 06:35:48 PM

@Jay you have really impacted a lot of knowledge on me which has been helping me on my Bitcoin journey I could remember when I came here with a less knowledge about strategies of accumulation using DCA, with this tread I was able understand and add the knowledge I have gathered from here to my existing ones which has been very helpful.

Referring back to your comments, of course is very unwise to uses the money that's meant for other expenses to invest because he is likely going to get into trouble later on because when the need will arise he will be left with no option but to sell off the investment. Perhaps this could be referred as an ignorant investor whom sees a possibility of getting into trouble if taking a certain decision but still went ahead.

Certainly, it would be unwise decision, as suggested by @Jay to invest money in Bitcoin (highly volatile and risky asset) that is meant for essential expenses. It can indeed lead to financial trouble. Therefore, the key takeaway is to prioritize financial stability and have well thought out investment plan that doesn't jeopardize immediate needs.

Understanding the distinction between investing and gambling is vital. Investing is like planting a tree and waiting for it to bear fruit, while gambling is like taking chance for quick wins, relying on luck rather than a long-term strategy.
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October 13, 2023, 04:52:43 PM
Anyone who uses money that they need for their expenses to "invest" in bitcoin is not investing. 

Instead they are gambling.

So one of the most important things to contrast investing from gambling is to make sure that you do not need the money that you are putting in for a significant period of time.  Surely I have been recommending 4-10 years or more, but there could be ways to have tighter (shorter) timelines, and still not be gambling because you don't need the money for a significant amount of time that you calculate with some intention, especially if you are starting to use less than 4 year timelines...
@Jay you have really impacted a lot of knowledge on me which has been helping me on my Bitcoin journey I could remember when I came here with a less knowledge about strategies of accumulation using DCA, with this tread I was able understand and add the knowledge I have gathered from here to my existing ones which has been very helpful.

Referring back to your comments, of course is very unwise to uses the money that's meant for other expenses to invest because he is likely going to get into trouble later on because when the need will arise he will be left with no option but to sell off the investment. Perhaps this could be referred as an ignorant investor whom sees a possibility of getting into trouble if taking a certain decision but still went ahead.
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October 13, 2023, 03:36:50 PM
I think that a lot of people should be able to put away $10 per week (or even $100 per week) for years and years and years without really worrying about it - however, some people are still pretty damned poor and they might have to stop their DCA after a year or two, even if their exposure might not seem very large to the rest of us.. for example, a person investing $10 per week would ONLY have $520 invested after 1 year and $1,040 invested after two years,

$10 per week is the weekly income of some people in some parts of the world. In my country, if you earn $10 per week, you’re richer than the person that earns and get paid with the country’s minimum wage price. In a situation where you earn $10 per week, you won’t feel the need to get any investment in bitcoin even when you know the benefits of investing in it. $10 per week won’t be enough to cater for your needs within a week without managing those funds, you’ll go broke before the end of the week when you lavish the money anyhow.

There are so many people that really want to make this investment but they don’t have the capital to start with, they don’t even have a means of earning extra money that can be invested in bitcoin because of the country’s hardship that do not provide room for that. DCA method remains the best method to use when you can’t buy the DIP and hold, but that is not still achievable for the average man living in a country where they feed from hand to mouth.
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October 13, 2023, 03:36:03 PM
Alright, man. It's quite simple. With $2000 in your bag, what you can purchase with that amount now will be higher than what you can purchase with it in the next five to seven years. Since the percentage of inflation gradually increases almost every year, it's more likely for you to increase your annual earning capacity. This way, you can slowly accumulate some amount of Bitcoin within 5 to 7 years, even if the price reaches $250k, using the Dollar-Cost Averaging approach.

I remember when people regretted not buying Bitcoin when the price was lower in 2014. But regardless, a lot of people are still buying now and holding, and even average individuals are investing in Bitcoin.

I like your analogy, and even without bitcoin increasing in volume over the coming years, which we all know that it will, the purchasing power of that $2,000 that one has at hand is definitely going to reduce; it's not what $2,000 was able to purchase in the past 5 years that it can still purchase today. Inflation is gradually increasing the cost of living, and the value of local currency can never be the same, so if we don't want to use the price of bitcoin as an example in terms of the amount to be purchased, one should also consider purchasing power and look at bitcoin as a means of taking a reasoning-saving step, as it will help you escape inflation a little bit.
 
And when we want to talk about the price difference, you might be surprised at what the value of bitcoin, which $2,000 can give you today, will turn out to be in the next $7,000; it's absolutely going to make history, and anyone who takes the bold step of purchasing it now will never regret it. That's if the person can hold it down for long and doesn't sell out of panic.
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October 13, 2023, 02:44:52 PM
Yes, that's what I know, Bitcoin has always experienced a high increase even though there are times when it has decreased due to several factors affecting the market, but compared to shitcoin, bitcoin is more likely to be promising with a bullish phase that can always dominate in recent years, just look at how the fate of investors who absolutely do not miss any opportunity related to opportunities in bitcoin. They managed to achieve sufficient or even significant profits.

Once again, investing in bitcoin will certainly bring its own benefits but of course with patience that must be owned because investing in bitcoin takes a long time, often I see people who invest for a long time but they stop halfway because of the lack of patience will wait a long time.
Good planning is to keep buying and holding over the long term. Every change in market conditions can be used as a target to continue accumulating Bitcoin because the market will not continue to be in a bearish condition. When you make a decision, the purchase is a permanent choice that you have made. Long-term planning will be quite good, especially if you accumulate BTC at a falling price, of course that moment is very valuable for you when you see BTC reach a new ATH.

In every plan for long-term investment, you can apply several interesting points about patterns that you have studied previously, such as DCA, which you should apply in long-term investment. Patience must exist within us, especially in long-term investments, of course you must have a higher level of patience before you reach the target in the investment you make.
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October 13, 2023, 01:32:00 PM
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But honestly it goes back to yourself or themselves, if indeed your finances are not good - fine then maybe you don't need to force to accumulate bitcoin because there is absolutely no compulsion for us to invest, whenever you are ready then you can start, the most important thing is not to sacrifice your life needs such as costs for basic needs and then allocated to bitcoin, your life is more important than anything, and well if you still have a way to be able to improve the situation like that then do it. Start saving from now on and use that money for bitcoin allocations, none other than that also to realize all your dreams in the future, just need to be consistent and patient.

Anyone who uses money that they need for their expenses to "invest" in bitcoin is not investing. 

Instead they are gambling.

So one of the most important things to contrast investing from gambling is to make sure that you do not need the money that you are putting in for a significant period of time.  Surely I have been recommending 4-10 years or more, but there could be ways to have tighter (shorter) timelines, and still not be gambling because you don't need the money for a significant amount of time that you calculate with some intention, especially if you are starting to use less than 4 year timelines...

If your timeline in shorter, and you are feeling a need to get price exposure to bitcoin in shorter than 4 year timelines, then you likely should be taking smaller (rather than bigger) positions when you go down such a shorter timeline path.

I think that a lot of people should be able to put away $10 per week (or even $100 per week) for years and years and years without really worrying about it - however, some people are still pretty damned poor and they might have to stop their DCA after a year or two, even if their exposure might not seem very large to the rest of us.. for example, a person investing $10 per week would ONLY have $520 invested after 1 year and $1,040 invested after two years,

yet that might be enough of an investment that they might feel that they cannot justify putting more money into BTC.. or maybe they just change their strategy to stop DCA'ing or to cut their DCA to a lower number or to replace or supplement DCA with buying on dips... so there can be quite a few ways to make adjustments to your BTC investment approach, even partially based on having have had built a decently sized position that gives more options but does not necessarily mean that there is a need to go from accumulation phase and straight to liquidation phase without first passing through a kind of maintenance stage.. Each person has to make these kinds of decisions about various transitions and even about how to move from one to another kind of phase with increments and without necessarily feeling that extreme changes need to be taken.
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October 13, 2023, 11:51:32 AM
It is true that sometimes everything will go to red and we have to consider whether everything going to red will affect us, and I would think that if we have already decided to invest into bitcoin based on our income and we have chosen a DCA amount, then we just continue to buy bitcoin, and sure if our income or our expenses had changed, then our disposable income has changed, so then in those circumstances, we may well need to make some adjustments, but our investment thesis should not necessarily change very easily when it comes to something like bitcoin.   
That's true Jay you have spoken well, I have actually learnt a lot from you and I believe others will also benefit through understanding your explanations, however irrespective of our DCA method there could be a time when things may not be too rossy for us due to other serious pressing needs but however we should be able to adjust our accumulation amount in other to solve those needs and at the same accumulating.

Actually even with DCA method the possibility of things getting hard sometimes that even with the reserve funds may not be enough to Carter for those needs but as an investor we should be able to remedy that situation by adjusting our accumulation pattern maybe by reducing the disposable amount use in accumulating, for instance if our weekly accumulation amount is $10 however in other to adjust to fit in the needs we could reduce accumulation to $5 weekly and when those pressing needs are solved we could continue our normal accumulating amount.

It is true that since the beginning of this topic until now, to be honest, I have also gained a lot of knowledge, especially in terms of bitcoin and various other ways that are more reasonable and very easy. For DCA itself I admit that indeed this is a very simple strategy but it is very suitable especially for those who are beginners, not at all complicated and maybe they only need basic knowledge of what DCA itself means. And well even though there may already be a method that can really help this but the problem is still not over, there must be some factors that can cause us to fail or maybe be late in the accumulation of bitcoin. I agree with you, basically the situation and conditions will not be completely in favor or may not always support us in investing bitcoin, especially in terms of finance or someone's finances that are not good or possible. Of course some problems in real life can occur and adjustments become the initial solution, try to keep everything running in balance between basic needs and bitcoin accumulation.

But honestly it goes back to yourself or themselves, if indeed your finances are not good - fine then maybe you don't need to force to accumulate bitcoin because there is absolutely no compulsion for us to invest, whenever you are ready then you can start, the most important thing is not to sacrifice your life needs such as costs for basic needs and then allocated to bitcoin, your life is more important than anything, and well if you still have a way to be able to improve the situation like that then do it. Start saving from now on and use that money for bitcoin allocations, none other than that also to realize all your dreams in the future, just need to be consistent and patient.
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October 13, 2023, 11:15:39 AM
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What's the point of HODLing bitcoins? Do you think that if we all hold, the value of the coin will go up? Why do you expect increased demand for Bitcoin in the case of Hodl when there are alternative cryptocurrencies? There is no point in holding money, money has to be in circulation for new products to be created and for services to be done. That's how this world works and functions.
One of the points why people are hodling Bitcoin is because Bitcoin is a solid asset and the price always recovers in value after a decrease. Wealth comes from waiting, people will not like to invest their money on shitcoins and lose their money in the course of waiting through a rug pull or the price of the shitcoin dropping by -90% and not recovering again. People choose to buy Bitcoin and hold it for years because they know that holding Bitcoin's safer than hodling a shitcoin

Yes, that's what I know, Bitcoin has always experienced a high increase even though there are times when it has decreased due to several factors affecting the market, but compared to shitcoin, bitcoin is more likely to be promising with a bullish phase that can always dominate in recent years, just look at how the fate of investors who absolutely do not miss any opportunity related to opportunities in bitcoin. They managed to achieve sufficient or even significant profits.
Your comment completely agrees with Bitcoin dominance history which as can be seen shows Bitcoin dominated from inception until 2017 that is regarded as the birth of altcoins that say Bitcoin dominance dropped to 41%. As expected, from 2017 onward, there have really been a serious back and forth swing on Bitcoin dominance and this can be explained by some people making so much profits from altcoins at some point and others also loosing to altcoins too... a pure case of proliferation of altcoins.

One interesting thing to note is that from 2021 it got saturated after which the odd started tilting towards Bitcoin. Probably people started waking up to reality that Bitcoin is the real deal as many of the shitcoins that promised heaven and earth in terms of used case, scalability and all manners of congestures failed to deliver. Even founders of these the shitcoins would have converted significant portion of their holding to Bitcoin and this explains the steady rise of Bitcoin dominance. 

As of today, Bitcoin is dominating approximately 50% of the market in a market where we have over three thousands altcoins.  This is a pure indication that people are rapidly adopting Bitcoin.

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October 13, 2023, 08:32:52 AM
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What's the point of HODLing bitcoins? Do you think that if we all hold, the value of the coin will go up? Why do you expect increased demand for Bitcoin in the case of Hodl when there are alternative cryptocurrencies? There is no point in holding money, money has to be in circulation for new products to be created and for services to be done. That's how this world works and functions.
One of the points why people are hodling Bitcoin is because Bitcoin is a solid asset and the price always recovers in value after a decrease. Wealth comes from waiting, people will not like to invest their money on shitcoins and lose their money in the course of waiting through a rug pull or the price of the shitcoin dropping by -90% and not recovering again. People choose to buy Bitcoin and hold it for years because they know that holding Bitcoin's safer than hodling a shitcoin

Yes, that's what I know, Bitcoin has always experienced a high increase even though there are times when it has decreased due to several factors affecting the market, but compared to shitcoin, bitcoin is more likely to be promising with a bullish phase that can always dominate in recent years, just look at how the fate of investors who absolutely do not miss any opportunity related to opportunities in bitcoin. They managed to achieve sufficient or even significant profits.

Once again, investing in bitcoin will certainly bring its own benefits but of course with patience that must be owned because investing in bitcoin takes a long time, often I see people who invest for a long time but they stop halfway because of the lack of patience will wait a long time.
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October 13, 2023, 07:10:51 AM


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Bitcoin is becoming so popular day by day that people of the world are choosing Bitcoin as their life security due to the popularity of Bitcoin. Every month the biggest holders of bitcoins are putting more than 50 thousand bitcoins to hold for long term. Statistics show that more than 76% (14.859M) of Bitcoins are currently under holders and they are holding it in wallets for long term storage. Then we can conclude that Bitcoin is one of the important assets in our life and its popularity will increase so much that the one who has the most Bitcoins in the next life will be recognized as rich and prosperous.

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October 13, 2023, 07:00:07 AM
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What's the point of HODLing bitcoins? Do you think that if we all hold, the value of the coin will go up? Why do you expect increased demand for Bitcoin in the case of Hodl when there are alternative cryptocurrencies? There is no point in holding money, money has to be in circulation for new products to be created and for services to be done. That's how this world works and functions.
One of the points why people are hodling Bitcoin is because Bitcoin is a solid asset and the price always recovers in value after a decrease. Wealth comes from waiting, people will not like to invest their money on shitcoins and lose their money in the course of waiting through a rug pull or the price of the shitcoin dropping by -90% and not recovering again. People choose to buy Bitcoin and hold it for years because they know that holding Bitcoin's safer than hodling a shitcoin
Sooner you will completely understand that there is no way that Shitcoin can be comparable to Bitcoin, most especially in what you called HODL.

How can you trust a coin that may die in a year or even shorter?  while In bitcoin you can see the action for more than 13 years.
and no way that I will choose altcoin over bitcoin, the term HODL is only related to one coin and that is Bitcoin.
when you called dropping 90% that is not a drop but for me that is considered dead.
There is no way I can compare shitcoin to Bitcoin, I gave a reason why people buy Bitcoin and hodl it for a very long term. With bitcoin, we can transfer value anywhere in a very easy way, there is nothing like Bitcoin in the crypto space.
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October 13, 2023, 06:20:35 AM
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What's the point of HODLing bitcoins? Do you think that if we all hold, the value of the coin will go up? Why do you expect increased demand for Bitcoin in the case of Hodl when there are alternative cryptocurrencies? There is no point in holding money, money has to be in circulation for new products to be created and for services to be done. That's how this world works and functions.
One of the points why people are hodling Bitcoin is because Bitcoin is a solid asset and the price always recovers in value after a decrease. Wealth comes from waiting, people will not like to invest their money on shitcoins and lose their money in the course of waiting through a rug pull or the price of the shitcoin dropping by -90% and not recovering again. People choose to buy Bitcoin and hold it for years because they know that holding Bitcoin's safer than hodling a shitcoin
Sooner you will completely understand that there is no way that Shitcoin can be comparable to Bitcoin , most specially in what you called HODL.

How can you trust a coin that may die in a year span or even shorter?  while In bitcoin you can se the action for more than 13 years.
and no way that I will choose altcoin over bitcoin , the term HODL only related to one coin and that is Bitcoin .
when you called dropping 90% that is not a drop but for me that is considered as dead .
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October 13, 2023, 01:59:11 AM
On the other side, many investors are afraid to buy during dip because of further price decrease. We can't pin point the real bottom so the best deal here is, if you can afford the price (since it's way cheaper compared to ath), go and fill your bags. Anything can happen which means the price can rise unexpectedly.
Investors whom there major aim is to accumulate for long time holding shouldn't be influenced by the price of Bitcoin by knowing if actually the price will dip more or increase the more, is obvious that the goals of every investors is to make a good profits in the future but however since the plan is for long time holding I see no reason why investors should consider the current price of Bitcoin before accumulating.

That's why DCA method is there to guide investors, that it doesn't matter how far Bitcoin price has gone but what matters is how you could be able to accumulate consistently with the little funds you could afford as well as risk management, perhaps with this we shouldn't be bothered about knowing if the price will drop to the bottom or not but instead we sees every price as an opportunity to keep accumulating.
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October 12, 2023, 11:57:22 PM
I am not worried about the price. Because the war created fear in everyone's mind, but it did not have any effect in reality. Because many people use bitcoin to send money to the war area here too we find the use of Bitcoin. But we will not always take it negatively because for those of us who have been waiting to buy, an opportunity has come again. Although I think this situation may return to normal in a few days, but during this period those who exploit and buy bitcoin from the dip will be comparatively more profitable than others. Since we are committed to investing in Bitcoin for a long time, we are not worried about temporary price fluctuations.

While, Your  perspective on Bitcoin's potential to outperform in the long term and its resilience to short term volatility, due to geopolitical situation in the Middle East price volatility is well understandable. However,  it is worth noting that, if the current geopolitical tensions persist, similar to what occurred in Ukraine/Russia conflict. It could have adverse affects on all risky assets markets. Consequently, there is a concern that we might see a an extended bear market, lasting for longer duration.

In simple terms, even when the market looks unfavorable, the long term investors should remain vigilant for opportunities to accumulate Bitcoin at lower prices.
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October 12, 2023, 11:24:44 PM
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What's the point of HODLing bitcoins? Do you think that if we all hold, the value of the coin will go up? Why do you expect increased demand for Bitcoin in the case of Hodl when there are alternative cryptocurrencies? There is no point in holding money, money has to be in circulation for new products to be created and for services to be done. That's how this world works and functions.
One of the points why people are hodling Bitcoin is because Bitcoin is a solid asset and the price always recovers in value after a decrease. Wealth comes from waiting, people will not like to invest their money on shitcoins and lose their money in the course of waiting through a rug pull or the price of the shitcoin dropping by -90% and not recovering again. People choose to buy Bitcoin and hold it for years because they know that holding Bitcoin's safer than hodling a shitcoin
Apart from the price recovery the real reason why people trust Bitcoin is a project that is truly decentralized and completely under the control of its users so no one can able to control it or ban it like most shitcoins which keeps encouraging people to invest more and more once they start to reap the actual profits from bitcoin investment.

Currently, we are at $27K, a small discount price so whoever got the money doesn't miss the deal.
Indeed. It is an established coin and trusted by majority of investors who are not eager to profit in a short period, it takes time but we know it's worth it. On the other side, many investors are afraid to buy during dip because of further price decrease. We can't pin point the real bottom so the best deal here is, if you can afford the price (since it's way cheaper compared to ath), go and fill your bags. Anything can happen which means the price can rise unexpectedly.

Therefore if we don't want to miss the chance then think what you can do to take advantage the situation. Anyhow regardless of how you accumulate (DCA or buy the dip), what matter is you understand what you're doing and firm on your decision about Bitcoin.
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October 12, 2023, 06:27:31 PM
Beginner and pleb like me, I think buying the dip is not the best strategy for me to use in accumulating Bitcoin because I can't time the perfect dip, the dip might last for years, and if I buy the dip it might keep dipping.

I chose the DCA strategy in accumulating my Bitcoin. By using the DCA strategy I can take advantage of market fluctuations by lowering their average cost per asset without risking too much capital at any point in time.
You have choosing a perfect buying plan, and you acknowledge well that you can’t predict the best time to buy bitcoin although every time that you buy can be classified as your perfect time that’s if you don’t plan on selling anytime soon.

DCA Strategy have proven to be the best way for both those who are experienced in the crypto business and those who are just newbies to buy bitcoin at the very point that they can never have to regret, for those who have a target price that they want to buy bitcoin most times always end up getting disappointed I mean they might be waiting for bitcoin price to drop below $20,000 this week before they can buy but at the end of the day they will always see bitcoin price going up instead of dancing to their turn. So you choosing to DCA is the best option because you won’t join those who have been waiting for bitcoin to drop down to $4000 before they can buy because they will wait forever.

One such strategy can be done using the DCA strategy in Bitcoin investing. Because you can invest any amount of money at any time, they will surely accumulate a large amount of wealth if they accumulate small amounts of investment over a long period of time. People who ignore the DCA strategy and invest (if old investments) will regret it because they invest and hold for life. So you can rest assured that the DCA strategy is one of the reasons why investments are used in such schemes and that investment will not be shifted outside the DCA strategy. And investing without DCA strategy must be exposed to risk (DCA strategy minimizes risk) and the investor can realize something good from this.
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October 12, 2023, 03:28:08 PM
Beginner and pleb like me, I think buying the dip is not the best strategy for me to use in accumulating Bitcoin because I can't time the perfect dip, the dip might last for years, and if I buy the dip it might keep dipping.

I chose the DCA strategy in accumulating my Bitcoin. By using the DCA strategy I can take advantage of market fluctuations by lowering their average cost per asset without risking too much capital at any point in time.
You have choosing a perfect buying plan, and you acknowledge well that you can’t predict the best time to buy bitcoin although every time that you buy can be classified as your perfect time that’s if you don’t plan on selling anytime soon.

DCA Strategy have proven to be the best way for both those who are experienced in the crypto business and those who are just newbies to buy bitcoin at the very point that they can never have to regret, for those who have a target price that they want to buy bitcoin most times always end up getting disappointed I mean they might be waiting for bitcoin price to drop below $20,000 this week before they can buy but at the end of the day they will always see bitcoin price going up instead of dancing to their turn. So you choosing to DCA is the best option because you won’t join those who have been waiting for bitcoin to drop down to $4000 before they can buy because they will wait forever.
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October 12, 2023, 02:26:43 PM

Bitcoin is called a risky asset because of its volatile nature and that is why, one needs to invest with only the amount that he can afford to lose, so that if bitcoin price goes below his entry point, he can just ignore the price and keep on hodli. That is why it is advisable not to borrow money to invest in bitcoin so that you don't end up selling when it isn't your will, to avoid loss.
We saw Bitcoin price was stable at 30k USD few weeks back and then there is a dip triggered due to some news. Bitcoin in that DIP went down from 30k to 25k and that's the time where your nerves as a HODLER are tested. Its easy to say to HODL but not many can see there investment going down. That DIP is now over and Bitcoin price is moving up towards 30k again. If you have bought Bitcoin when it was down then surely you are getting some profit at the moment. Accumulating more when Bitcoin is down is more beneficial then when its up.

For sure, it seems that the dip from $30k to $25k is over.. but not easy to say with certainty.. since we are currently in the middle of the range.. so no one can really say for sure that the dip is over.. and that $25k support might not be broken to the downside.

It is hard to bet either way, even though sometimes people act as if they know, and then they tell you "I told you so," after the fact... but I doubt that they really know with any level of confidence that maybe at best might get into the 60% to 70% arena before all the events end up playing out.  

Sure, from time to time, there are some price set ups that make it seem more likely of one price direction or another in the short-term, but I doubt that we are currently in one of those kinds of a set up.

As we were discussing this, Bitcoin once again started going down. Right now the price is at 26.6k on CMC and we cant say with certainty that where price will go from this. 25k support may be tested once again.
People give too many predictions at times and if anyone of those went true they say "I told you so". The fact is we have seen so many predictions about Bitcoin and majority were false.
In current scenario it is easy to predict that price may restrict in 25 to 30k range because thats how bitcoin is behaving for last few months. But there is no way we can predict the long term price of Bitcoin.
I'm always amazed at most person forget just how insane bitcoin prices can get, in either direction. Lots of speculation can be made but only a few at some points happened. Don't be surprised that Bitcoin at 26.6k now could actually mean it might go down the 25k like you speculated. Maybe even lower, like 20k.
Yes anything is possible, even the price might as well go to 30. So lets sit tight and enjoy the ride. If we have enough fiat to buy when it goes lower we should not hesitate to buy more using a well structured strategy. One thin i realize is that the appreciation of Bitcoin is inevitable just like its growth and adoption are. Correct me if am mistaken


Whoever is using DCA method to accumulate bitcoin will not bother about the price of bitcoin either it is goin up or down because with your regular DCA, you will keep adding to your bitcoin. Worrying about the price moving up or down might distract you from accumulating the quantity of bitcoin that you want to accumulate and you will lose focus, because you will be busy speculating on bitcoin price that you are not sure of, since nobody knows the next movement of bitcoin price, either it will move up or down. Think of how to add more bitcoin to your portfolio and don't think about the price of bitcoin if you believe that bitcoin price will recover and that bitcoin is worth investing in. So many newbies give more of their time to the price of bitcoin instead of using that opportunity to increase their bitcoin portfolio, DCA is the best way to accumulate bitcoin due to the fluctuations in Bitcoin price.
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October 12, 2023, 01:15:11 PM
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What's the point of HODLing bitcoins? Do you think that if we all hold, the value of the coin will go up? Why do you expect increased demand for Bitcoin in the case of Hodl when there are alternative cryptocurrencies? There is no point in holding money, money has to be in circulation for new products to be created and for services to be done. That's how this world works and functions.
One of the points why people are hodling Bitcoin is because Bitcoin is a solid asset and the price always recovers in value after a decrease. Wealth comes from waiting, people will not like to invest their money on shitcoins and lose their money in the course of waiting through a rug pull or the price of the shitcoin dropping by -90% and not recovering again. People choose to buy Bitcoin and hold it for years because they know that holding Bitcoin's safer than hodling a shitcoin
Apart from the price recovery the real reason why people trust Bitcoin is a project that is truly decentralized and completely under the control of its users so no one can able to control it or ban it like most shitcoins which keeps encouraging people to invest more and more once they start to reap the actual profits from bitcoin investment.

Currently, we are at $27K, a small discount price so whoever got the money doesn't miss the deal.
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October 12, 2023, 01:04:52 PM

Bitcoin is called a risky asset because of its volatile nature and that is why, one needs to invest with only the amount that he can afford to lose, so that if bitcoin price goes below his entry point, he can just ignore the price and keep on hodli. That is why it is advisable not to borrow money to invest in bitcoin so that you don't end up selling when it isn't your will, to avoid loss.
We saw Bitcoin price was stable at 30k USD few weeks back and then there is a dip triggered due to some news. Bitcoin in that DIP went down from 30k to 25k and that's the time where your nerves as a HODLER are tested. Its easy to say to HODL but not many can see there investment going down. That DIP is now over and Bitcoin price is moving up towards 30k again. If you have bought Bitcoin when it was down then surely you are getting some profit at the moment. Accumulating more when Bitcoin is down is more beneficial then when its up.

For sure, it seems that the dip from $30k to $25k is over.. but not easy to say with certainty.. since we are currently in the middle of the range.. so no one can really say for sure that the dip is over.. and that $25k support might not be broken to the downside.

It is hard to bet either way, even though sometimes people act as if they know, and then they tell you "I told you so," after the fact... but I doubt that they really know with any level of confidence that maybe at best might get into the 60% to 70% arena before all the events end up playing out. 

Sure, from time to time, there are some price set ups that make it seem more likely of one price direction or another in the short-term, but I doubt that we are currently in one of those kinds of a set up.

As we were discussing this, Bitcoin once again started going down. Right now the price is at 26.6k on CMC and we cant say with certainty that where price will go from this. 25k support may be tested once again.
People give too many predictions at times and if anyone of those went true they say "I told you so". The fact is we have seen so many predictions about Bitcoin and majority were false.
In current scenario it is easy to predict that price may restrict in 25 to 30k range because thats how bitcoin is behaving for last few months. But there is no way we can predict the long term price of Bitcoin.
I'm always amazed at most person forget just how insane bitcoin prices can get, in either direction. Lots of speculation can be made but only a few at some points happened. Don't be surprised that Bitcoin at 26.6k now could actually mean it might go down the 25k like you speculated. Maybe even lower, like 20k.
Yes anything is possible, even the price might as well go to 30. So lets sit tight and enjoy the ride. If we have enough fiat to buy when it goes lower we should not hesitate to buy more using a well structured strategy. One thin i realize is that the appreciation of Bitcoin is inevitable just like its growth and adoption are. Correct me if am mistaken
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