Topic: Buy the DIP, and HODL! - page 385. (Read 108380 times)

This is only a simple consensus that if followed on a regular basis, you will have no problems with your bitcoin investment. The power that influences the emotions and thinking of bitcoin investors is extremely powerful and difficult to control.  If you haven't been in that circumstance, you won't understand what it's like to have a grip as your investment begins to fall apart right in front of your eyes. Overcoming all of this is what makes one a better investor; but, in order to reap the rewards of all of this, you must approach the market with an open mind, ready to face market volatility without losing your sense of patience in the market. If you can conquer this, you will be a better HODLER and investment will move smoothly as planned.

Ahh.. do you really think I haven't gone through this thread I think I have almost read the maximum number of pages, all of the newbies and other members are only discussing the DCA, and I don't think so just DCA is sufficient enough, practically DCA can be an all-rounder but in the market, DAC is not a dead end hope you've got it..

Something called safe play is DCA and something called value investing with risk management, hope so its sufficient enough to point out what I'm talking about.

Conclusively, it will be wise to just have an open mindset about the direction of the market and buying shouldn't be with a fixed expected speculative outcome, buying should be achieved through DCA so it doesn't seem like you got in at the 'idiot' point.

Hmm, anyway as I have updated the title maybe those who just post, without even reading the content may now focus on the point, whether they do read or not doesn't matter in the case where they respond to the point. My primary motive is to obtain some experienced insights into the other strategies except for the DCA. I'm not sure how many here truly understand the DCA except for the basic concept that they've heard from others..   (I can be wrong as well maybe all of them are well aware of it).

I thinking for the ending point you've mentioned as I had responded to many of the members in my last post on the thread, let's wait patiently for a couple of more posts, and than I will also look for your suggestion as well.

Right, I quite agree with your assumption, and honestly I would also say the same thing, which seems to be true that the price decline to the $25k area is over, I also won't say that this is certain but it is still speculation and I say it according to the predictions that I know, the last time I saw the price of $25k was at the beginning of September yesterday when the price was in a sideways phase and was looking for indications for the next price formation. One resistance in the previous time has been successfully broken and if we look at the formation of new support afterwards it is much higher than the previous support, and I see the latest support in the short term is in the area or price of $ 26,200.
So in my view just looking at the formation of this trend confirmation is enough to conclude that bullish has begun to dominate and of course that means for the short term or even the next few months the price will not return to touch the price of $ 25k.

It's true like there are some people who say they like to know everything when in fact it is very difficult to fully predict, and maybe even if it can be only a few percent accurate. Honestly in this matter I would not really advise people to follow my way, because obviously everyone's perspective must be different in terms of analysis, and well maybe I'll just try it myself because indirectly it's like testing my own abilities to what extent. And well the point is there will always be a reason why prices can move, or I mean the reason why prices can lead there, and I'm always learning to improve my knowledge in order to find out that reason.

If you can't afford to buy during DIP then don't force it because for this method you have to be ready with the capital because when the price drops then buy, but when the capital is not ready then don't do this because it will be a complicated process later especially when the cash flow is unstable, still the best choice is DCA you don't need to collect money first, but when you get every month you can go directly to DCA regardless of how much it is still the best way.

I know buy dip is a way where you want to get bitcoin at a cheap price, this kind of purchase will not be every time because the price of bitcoin will definitely go up even if it goes up from $25K to $30K but I'm sure you want to buy at $25K rather than $30K, so with DCA it's not like that regardless of the price we will continue to get bitcoin every week if that's your plan.

Do you really want to pay attention? I think the contents will not be far from what we are talking about here sir (discuss it will spin with what we have discussed here), and the scope is limited, which forces someone to talk about other things there, so it will not be relevant to The title, for me personally, is better to pay attention to this thread than to pay attention to other threads which basically lead to the same discussion.

I'm not sure you will waste time for that sir.

But it is good, more and more people talk about DCA strategies and suggest it, more and more people who understand this strategy that we consider to be safer strategies for any market conditions in its application.

This is basically the most simplest but yet hard way for some Bitcoin investor. The Dip is handle by different investor in different ways as some of these investor tend to be frightened even though there are aware that their money in the investment won't dry off, that fear is still in their mind and they tend to succum to it and do the least of which is expected from Bitcoin investor who are planing to hold their coins for long .

While some other investor actually use this means as an advantage and this type of investors are the strong holder who always stick to their plans and strong principle when it's comes to tempering with their holdings (Bitcoin).

Exactly because when the bitcoin price is low, you have enough funds to invest with it and make a huge profit when the price rises, when the bitcoin price is low it is an opportunity for the investor to add money to their investment so that they will make a profit, Bitcoin is volatile and that makes it good to invest in my opinion, I can't call bitcoin a big risk because whenever I invest with it, even if the price goes down, I won't sell it because the price will rise again It is not like trading in which you will lose all of your funds if you lack knowledge about bitcoin trading.

Before now, I was buying Bitcoin at different price points right from the $29k zone down to below the $25k zone with pending orders even around the $20k zone. But since I learnt about the DCA method, I have been using it to buy and it's been so wonderful. Now I do not pay much attention to the price as I have certain amount of dollar I convert to Bitcoin per week. So far, I have found peace and comfort knowing that my investment will yield profits with time.



This seems like a discussion here sometime ago where someone suggested applying both the DCA method together with buying at the dip (instant buys atcertain low price points). I did not follow up to the conclusion of the discussion but I felt the tone of various comments here suggested it was feasible.

Yes.. I see that you started that thread a couple of days ago.. and I'll put that thread on my list of threads to look at.

Of course, there are quite a few threads that end up having overlapping sub-themes.. and at the same time, sometimes we do need to go back to the OP to try to figure out if members are still even trying to stay on topic in accordance with the OP or sometimes the original topic might even become irrelevant in terms of what kinds of ideas might be being discussed within the thread, which might end up being a sign that the thread needs to be closed.  

I doubt that the topic of buying on the dip and HODL will ever become irrelevant, even if those practices are subsets of a variety of different kinds of BTC accumulation strategies that normies likely end up employing.. and that such practices and the extent to which they are done might change depending on where normies are at in their bitcoin accumulation journey (and we know that there are so much of the overall world's population that have not even started accumulating bitcoin yet.. they are barely passed the hearing about bitcoin and thinking they know what it is, so one of the next stages for the no coiners is to get some of it and at least become a low coiner prior to advancing further.. or losing their coins if they screw it up or don't realize which coins are more valuable in accordance with Gresham's law ideas)..


For sure, it seems that the dip from $30k to $25k is over.. but not easy to say with certainty.. since we are currently in the middle of the range.. so no one can really say for sure that the dip is over.. and that $25k support might not be broken to the downside.

It is hard to bet either way, even though sometimes people act as if they know, and then they tell you "I told you so," after the fact... but I doubt that they really know with any level of confidence that maybe at best might get into the 60% to 70% arena before all the events end up playing out. 

Sure, from time to time, there are some price set ups that make it seem more likely of one price direction or another in the short-term, but I doubt that we are currently in one of those kinds of a set up.

Yeah actually as I always mention on my previous comments, my opinion about the impact of economic recession on Bitcoin is always a likelihood of price increment, however when we talk about recession is actually a situation when there is a decline on economic growth as such resulting to lack of activities, so in this case most people will be looking for an alternative to invest there valuables as such seeing Bitcoin as the only way to invest there money knowing how reliable Bitcoin is and with the hope of making profits in the future, so in this case everybody will channel all there funds investing on Bitcoin as such creating a higher demand on Bitcoin which propels the value of Bitcoin, so recession doesn't affect Bitcoin but instead it will increase the demand and making the price to increase.

DCA has been the best method reiterated to be used to increase your bitcoin holding amidst the high volatile nature of the market. If we all want the bitcoin price to go as low as we wanted to have an entry point, many will never get to invest in bitcoin and its increasing holders will not increase over time. Trading is seen as the best strategy for mostly gamblers. Those that are already exposed to gambling for a long time when coming into bitcoin investment they will prioritize trading over holding which is not a good way for a newbie into bitcoin to go for. A trader is always exposed to risk and can lose all of their investment by taking a very wrong step. The best method still remains to hold as it reduces the risk of losing your money and increase your hope of a better profit in the future.


The Fear of missing out (FOMO) has made many people to go into debts and ultimately forced to exit the market when it is not yet time to reap the profit of their investment. It is good to have an early investment in bitcoin when the price is still low but no one has ever had a peace of mind and sense of profiting while using other people’s money or loaned money to invest in bitcoin. The volatility nature will make you lose hope as early because of the fact that you’re using a money that is not yours. You will be forced to exit the market not to burst people’s money before you even get the profit that will come in the long run. With bitcoin you’re safe but with altcoin you’re just gambling and might not profit you in the future.

We saw Bitcoin price was stable at 30k USD few weeks back and then there is a dip triggered due to some news. Bitcoin in that DIP went down from 30k to 25k and that's the time where your nerves as a HODLER are tested. Its easy to say to HODL but not many can see there investment going down. That DIP is now over and Bitcoin price is moving up towards 30k again. If you have bought Bitcoin when it was down then surely you are getting some profit at the moment. Accumulating more when Bitcoin is down is more beneficial then when its up.

CZ is talking about hodling, and you are talking about trafing, how do both words match. When any investor is not patient with his bitcoin hodling, he will end up selling at the price that he doesn't desire to sell. I will also say that short term bitcoin investors are traders and not investors. This is because, bitcoin investment is designed to be a long term investment due to its potential. An investor will have patience with his bitcoin portfolio to grow while he keeps on increasing his bitcoin through DCA method.

In a normal investment that is not bitcoin, you don't expect to set up your investment and after a short period of time, because you have made 2% profit, you eat up the profit and leave the business in a stagnant shape, that business will end up failing when misfortune catches up with the business. This is how it is in bitcoin but bitcoin is even more risky because of its volatile nature. Whereby, the price pumps and dumps, only long tern investors will survive the market and have good significant amount of bitcon.

Each different trading pattern will give rise to different goals for everyone, because people who like trading with short term durations may be more likely to consider suggestions that are only profitable for a moment. But for people who like long-term investments, perhaps the pattern they will apply is DCA because it is more suitable for continuing to buy Bitcoin without remembering to trade at any time. Although such people also set their targets for long-term profits, other than that it may just be a differentiating pattern for each person in carrying out their own work based on the patterns of their own thoughts.

GOOD QUESTION, and personally, I believe the probability is higher than what the "smart people" in the forum expect.


What would you say it's "sad" because it's actually not. It's just part of the dynamic that affects everything in modern civilization. Plus everything is currently more inter-connected now because of the internet, it's unavoidable.


OK, then should we throw the facts out of the window and merely hold on to what you want to believe will happen? Because it's a fact that we're currently in a phase of Quantitative Tightening because Inflation is not transitory, it's sticky. If the tightening continues, there would be less money in circulation, which will mean in time, there will be less demand, less cash for those who need it, it will cause lay-offs, then a recession. Do you believe there's a higher probability that Bitcoin will surge higher in such an environment, or crash lower?

I'm not talking/asking about HODLing or investing. I'm asking for everyone's opinions about Bitcoin during a recession environment.

In my opinion, even though CZ is very familiar in the world of digital currency and his powerful message, perhaps only the majority have heard it. As for implementing patterns and strategies, yes, that's up to each person, be it the DCA model, natural/instinctive patterns or something else. But, usually Crypto Traders always look for the best in Bitcoin Trading with the help of experts because hacks on Crypto Exchanges often occur.

Hi buddy.. After the exchange of views a couple of times a discussion between the members and my own experiences and learning I started a topic in the Bitcoin discussion where I was expecting that seniors would guide and put forward their views on the Different strategies adoption in different market zones. Haha but unfortunately the topic became a simple DCA praising discussion.

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Anyway I would like active members from here to discuss the topic there according to their perspective, it would really helpful for the newbies and members like me who are desiring to get some wordic from the series on different aspects.

Previous Topic Name: How To Accumulate Bitcoin More Effectively In Any Market Zone

Current Topic Name: DCA vs Zone Specific Strategies While Accumulation of Bitcoins

Certainly, when a high-profile figure like CZ, who has millions of followers on social media, imparts wisdom of Bitcoin. It's good idea to listen and think what he is saying but with due diligence. This statement aligns harmoniously with the viewpoint of highly regarded member of Bitcointalk forum @Jayjuang. He is one of the strongest believers in potential of Bitcoin to reward its long-term holders (5 to 30Years) I have been following his wise advice since 2021 and keep buying Bitcoin regularly by using DCA strategy, and especially when its price drops significantly.