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June 06, 2023, 03:49:18 PM
By the negative relationship between Binance and SEC Bitcoin prices drop significantly since yesterday. The price has fallen by 8.3 percent in the last seven days, 4.5 percent price drop in 24 hours. But such a situation is not new in crypto. Almost same situation like this happens and will happen in the future too but only those who take advantage of that opportunity can join the list of real gainers. This is an opportunity for those who are waiting to buy from the dip. And those who know how to capitalize on opportunities will also be successful in Bitcoin holdings.
Yes I think now is the right time to buy our bitcoins. I had previously bought bitcoins at a high price and now I am thinking of buying again with some money. Because now I can buy these bitcoins at a much lower price than what I bought them before.  I will sell after the month after the price increases. Then I can make a lot of money. It is the right time. Whoever can use this time can make money by investing.

You are lost rojan.

We are not talking about trading in this thread...

good luck with your dumbass trading plan, and go talk about it somewhere else, in some other thread that would be on your short-term profit trading topic (to the extent any of that is even a good plan).
Grin Grin "Dumbass trading plan", I think that will really clear him on the actually issue that is discussed here , I mean its not so hard to miss @Buy the DIP, and HODL!. Bitcoin is volatile no doubt but thats why its all fun and profitable and also a perfect means for an investment plan and more preferably a long term investment. Over the years bitcoin has proven its efficiency when compared to other altcoins who always tend to disappoint after their planned pump rise by major market influencers that deceive folks that are impatient to actually hodl their bitcoin and so diverse to other means to get the profits more quicker which I know is probably more risky.

Holding for a short term and trading have been one of these means but everyone or maybe I think its ways too risky and prefer to hodl my BTC till the markets looks favourable for me to sell off and that would probably be during another ATH but only time knows when and with knowing this, the curiosity to sell actually dies down too. So trading my coins for some cheap profits is totally off the question for me but I don't about any other bitcoin enthusiast but I will definitely prefer to Buy the DIP, and HODL!.
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June 06, 2023, 03:31:10 PM
Yeah, sure it is possible to be profitable with trading and it is even more likely that positions can be bolstered by attempting to buy more when the BTC price is down; however, it way more likely that normies are going to do way worse in their BTC accumulation (and therefore future profits) if they fuck around with trading... beyond maybe some minor attempts to buy more during dip periods...and erroring on the side of mostly just regular and persistent buying and accumulating of BTC and increasing their wealth (or likely wealth) through such ongoing, regular and persistent accumulating/buying efforts.
As a small bitcoin holder i dare not to trade with BTC if I wish. Because volatility might eat up my little BTC. But for small holders I think holding Bitcoin is more suitable than trading. A trader is not always profitable. But I want to keep myself out of this calculation of profit or loss and try to keep up with DCA. There are many small BTC holders like me who were afraid to dream. Today they dare to dream that is only by holding BTC. A big trader might be able to temporarily invest in Bitcoin and walk away with money but there are many holders like us who choose Bitcoin as their permanent asset. More than gold or any other precious commodity, BTC has come to be considered a permanent asset to our holders. When the price of Bitcoin falls, some people express disappointment, but some holders like us smile because there will be an opportunity to buy Bitcoin at a lower price.
Well said my friend, I think its probably better to hold than to risk your little coins on trading that is something more like gambling and everyone is well aware of the risks than its involved in gamble so being a patient buyer would probably be the trick to actually achieved some benefit in your long term investment. And like you said, I am still confused on how folks who hold small btc would complain when the price start dipping, it should actually be like some kind of blessing because that's exactly the way I see it, because the lower the market price the better chances you have to accumulate as much btc as you can for your investment because the number of bitcoin will get for 50$ when the price is 20k $  is not same when the price pumps to 30k$.
This is what I term as discounting because, while the weak hand is panic selling a holder will continue to buy the deep and discounted price, imagine buying a few bucks when Bitcoin touched 25k, by now you will be on a good percentage of profits by now.

So ultimately only the steel hand and long-term holder are the real potential top gainers and this also include quite a lot of financial and statistical brain work to be able to know when tocatcht the edge and how to minimize the overall risks.
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June 06, 2023, 11:47:07 AM
By the negative relationship between Binance and SEC Bitcoin prices drop significantly since yesterday. The price has fallen by 8.3 percent in the last seven days, 4.5 percent price drop in 24 hours. But such a situation is not new in crypto. Almost same situation like this happens and will happen in the future too but only those who take advantage of that opportunity can join the list of real gainers. This is an opportunity for those who are waiting to buy from the dip. And those who know how to capitalize on opportunities will also be successful in Bitcoin holdings.
Yes I think now is the right time to buy our bitcoins. I had previously bought bitcoins at a high price and now I am thinking of buying again with some money. Because now I can buy these bitcoins at a much lower price than what I bought them before.  I will sell after the month after the price increases. Then I can make a lot of money. It is the right time. Whoever can use this time can make money by investing.

You are lost rojan.

We are not talking about trading in this thread...

good luck with your dumbass trading plan, and go talk about it somewhere else, in some other thread that would be on your short-term profit trading topic (to the extent any of that is even a good plan).
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June 06, 2023, 11:42:43 AM
By the negative relationship between Binance and SEC Bitcoin prices drop significantly since yesterday. The price has fallen by 8.3 percent in the last seven days, 4.5 percent price drop in 24 hours. But such a situation is not new in crypto. Almost same situation like this happens and will happen in the future too but only those who take advantage of that opportunity can join the list of real gainers. This is an opportunity for those who are waiting to buy from the dip. And those who know how to capitalize on opportunities will also be successful in Bitcoin holdings.
Yes I think now is the right time to buy our bitcoins. I had previously bought bitcoins at a high price and now I am thinking of buying again with some money. Because now I can buy these bitcoins at a much lower price than what I bought them before.  I will sell after the month after the price increases. Then I can make a lot of money. It is the right time. Whoever can use this time can make money by investing.
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June 06, 2023, 11:35:20 AM
The recent SEC action against Binance which triggered panic selling and a significant drop in Bitcoin with price decreased more than $1500 in a single session. It is likely that Bitcoin market will continue facing such volatility in coming weeks and months, as this is how Bitcoin market has been behaving historically which is its inherent characteristic. However, as long term investors, we should not overly concerned about such negative development and remain committed to our long term strategy.

Why are we talking about Binance and its CEO's attack by the SEC? Here comes another lawsuit again by the same SEC against Coinbase, which has received a warning from the SEC before now. It's no longer news that the SEC is after the big names, and as such, most people are panic selling out of fear of what might come next. Since the price already dumped over the Binance Sue, I don't think that Coinbase will have any great impact on the market again.

People might be seeing this as a bad time for Bitcoin, but those who turn everything into an opportunity will utilize it as an opportunity and take advantage of the entire situation. Those who have money will buy more and store it, not minding what the price will be tomorrow.
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June 06, 2023, 09:57:29 AM
Of course in this thread we are not really getting into selling to buy back lower because we are largely wanting to emphasize tactics to either regularly buy and/or to figure out various points in which we buy on dips and how much of a dip do we buy and how much we might save for further dips, if such further dips were to occur. and then if they don't occur, then what do we do?  Are we still ok.. with that?
Certainly when missing it again there will be a feeling of regret for not making a purchase at the moment of Bitcoin before bouncing back to $ 26K- $ 27 and higher, I am enough to admit that the panic/fear must be in a case like this, even though I am accustomed to market conditions Like this in Bitcoin.
The thing I did was the DCA fund this month was divided into two, before I bought Bitcoin when in the price range of $ 25,540.22 I felt lucky because it seemed to be Bitcoin to bounce back to $ 26K, and then I prepared the rest of the DCA funds if there was another dumping in Bitcoin this month, I think Stratgi like this is effective enough to do DCA when FUD which might have a rather long effect, even if there is no continuation of dumping, the last week of June became my DCA fund option.

Keep accumulating BTC, I think smart people will not miss a rare moment like this.
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June 06, 2023, 08:39:06 AM
By the negative relationship between Binance and SEC Bitcoin prices drop significantly since yesterday. The price has fallen by 8.3 percent in the last seven days, 4.5 percent price drop in 24 hours. But such a situation is not new in crypto. Almost same situation like this happens and will happen in the future too but only those who take advantage of that opportunity can join the list of real gainers. This is an opportunity for those who are waiting to buy from the dip. And those who know how to capitalize on opportunities will also be successful in Bitcoin holdings.
Yup, things like this always repeat themselves and indeed the condition of the SEC beating for Binance will definitely have an impact on all aspects and that includes bitcoin fluctuations but on the other hand I quite agree with what you said in this case, many are still waiting and according to the title listed now this can also be a good momentum of course because with this we can still buy bitcoin at a cheaper price.
The concept is still the same as before with buy on the dip or indeed if possible with DCA.
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June 06, 2023, 08:19:43 AM
Also, I doubt anyone just achieves "extensive knowledge" without a lot of practice and making improvements along the way, so likely each and everyone of us start out as being pretty dumb in a lot of ways, and there are ways that some people learn more along the way as compared with others and some people are also persistent in their various ways of pursuing knowledge and attempting to actually apply that knowledge to the real world - rather than ongoingly speculating about various fantasy worlds.
Appreciate your comment that understanding the importance of applying knowledge  is crucial in real life situations. Simply acquisition of knowledge without any intention or desire doesn't helps or serves and purpose for the society. True knowledge extends beyond theories and hypothesis scenarios. Genuine learning comes from actively engaging with people and apply your knowledge to solve the problem what society is facing.

The same principle can be applied to Bitcoin investment by utilizing our learning for making informed decision, which can lead to financial stability in our life.

I would like to clarify that I am not against theoretical knowledge, since frequently each of us is likely going to have opinions and theories about some kinds of things that we have never experienced, and that we might not be able to experience (very easily) and some things might be dangerous to attempt to experience, but still we could theorize about them in terms of their being dangerous or their being thrilling or their being difficult to accomplish or their being physically painful/pleasurable.

For example, I can theorize that if I walk on a high beam that either I am going to fall right away or I will get dizzy, or I could theorize that I will be able to walk between two tall buildings, and perhaps it is better for me to theorize about it rather than actually attempting to put my theory into practice, but it likely would be a good idea for me to theorize about whether I should do it, what it might be like and what the consequences might be before I actually attempt to carry out the practice of my theory.

Even in regards to bitcoin, there still might be a lot of ways that we theorize about the particulars prior to attempting to execute in order to attempt to filter out some of the possible ways that we might want to proceed forward and we might want to theorize about it prior to actually attempting to practice, and there may well even be some areas that we choose not to attempt to put into practice, largely because we theorized about it first (and it does not even necessarily mean that we are going to come to the right or the better of conclusions regarding whether and how to act) and it is valid that we theorize, and it seems that part of the point that I was attempting to make earlier is that there are a lot of ways that we learn way more about ourselves (such as our psychological boundaries), when we are ongoingly practicing managing our BTC portfolio for a long period of time and/or attempting to build our BTC stash by whatever methods that we choose, perhaps including but not limited to accumulating through DCA buying, buying on dips and lump sum investing - and also perhaps by attempting to maintain our BTC stash through sell (use) and replace whatever we had sold (used).  We can theorize first, and sometimes end up being wrong in regards to overly acting on our theories when maybe we should not have attempted to act on certain aspects of our theories.

Yes, of course, some people might ONLY have enough of a budget that they are able to pay for their living expenses, and they do not have any extra money to buy any BTC, and so sometimes it can be difficult to get to a point in which any of us is able to act upon our theories and beliefs if we are not able to put ourselves into a position in which we can act in order to buy BTC regularly.  

On the other hand, some people might have to make a lot of corrective actions in their lives in order that they are able to set aside $100 per week (or even $10 per week) to buy BTC on an ongoing and regular basis, and when these people go through those measures to set aside some of their cashflow and to dedicate it towards BTC, they have abilities to learn a lot about themselves and about their various balances of how to manage their money better.. and they get some of those additional skills because they ongoingly went through persistent and consistent behaviors over long periods of time and perhaps even making adjustments (and even making big and small mistakes) from time to time.

Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to proclaim that I am any kind of a genius or that I am better (or smarter) than everyone else, but there are things that each and everyone of us can try to employ better methods and tactics in terms of trying to use actual facts that support logic and sound conclusions, rather than failing/refusing to learn or to understand how some relevant (and inconvenient) facts might fit so that we can arrive at better conclusions, even if we might never really be able to achieve 100% perfect information.. .or perfect logic or perfectly sound conclusions, but we can still strive to be better and to learn from the various ways that our information, logic and conclusions might be defective.
Today the market speaks. The market is still very vulnerable to issues of negative sentiment and FUD.

So you are suggesting that you were right about BTC's price direction?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You must be rich.

Maybe every perspective is different in understanding the basic principles and dynamics of the market well.

There are ways to manage your portfolio that accounts for BTC price movements in either direction, and some people like to gamble, and some people like to attempt to make trades in regards to where they believe the BTC price will go.  Good luck with that, especially if you are fucking around with large portions of your BTC stash in those regards and expecting that you can increase the size of your BTC stash by selling higher and buying lower... especially if you are selling after the BTC price had already gone down and you expect it to go down lower.

Yes, you might end up being correct 9 out of 10 times, and then if you are playing with too much of your stash, 1/10 of the time being wrong could wipe away most if not all of your profits, and you might have had been better off with some kind of another strategy.. and sure, if you think that you got it figured out, then apply whatever strategy that you believe works.

Our goals here may all be the same, only the means of delivery may differ in learning and developing a thorough understanding of Bitcoin, which in turn forms confidence in the cryptocurrency. Yes. it's normal and I really appreciate it. Thanks for the advice and opinion.

Likely there are subgoals that will be individually tailored.. or at least should be individually tailored that likely would depend upon where each of us are at in our bitcoin journey.

If we are relatively new to bitcoin, we may well be in early bitcoin accumulation, and we might set some BTC accumulation targets, and then we might set forth some strategies regarding how we might strive to reach our various BTC accumulation targets.

Some of us might come into BTC as our first investment, and others might have been investing for a decently long time and be wanting to allocate some of their overall investment portfolio into bitcoin.

Some people might already be at or near fuck you status (however, we might define fuck you status), and others might be a long way from fuck you status, and some may want to attempt to rush their getting to fuck you status because they believe that they can employ some trading measures to cause their movement from zero to fuck you status to come more quickly than it would if they had employed more conservative measures.

Goals should be individually tailored, and even if you can characterize the end goals as similar (such as we all want to get rich), it hardly makes any sense, because each person is at different places in their journey and each person even has differing risk tolerances and even views of bitcoin as compared with other assets that they might invest into they might already have other assets too, so many times the journey is going to be different, and even the tactics are likely to be different depending upon current location.  

By the way, there could be two people who come to bitcoin with a similar amount of resources - let's say that each of them has an investment portfolio that is $100k, and that $100k investment portfolio contains stocks, bonds, cash, commodities, property interests, and perhaps each of them has a cashflow that is around $36k per year and perhaps $100 per week ($5,200 per year) that they are able to invest into bitcoin. Let's say that they choose to allocate 10% into bitcoin, and one of them, might decide to immediately sell some of his/her other assets and accumulate $10k in bitcoin (and therefore immediately reach his/her 10% BTC allocation), and the other person might decide to buy BTC at $100 per week (or perhaps choose some other amount), but if s/he decides to merely buy $100 per week in bitcoin, then it may well take him/her 2 years or longer to reach his/her 10% allocation into bitcoin.  

So if you are trying to suggest that each of us has the same goals, frequently there are nuances in the ways that people are ready, willing and able to work towards achieving their goals in terms of how many chances that they might be willing to take, and surely we can likely witness that there are people that appear to have similar starting points (or maybe the reach similar financial resources levels at various points in their life journeys), but still people will make decisions that likely contribute towards how successful that they might appear to be in the short-term versus the longer term and even some people might end up having more overall prosperity - some choose to consume more earlier in their lives and others choose to defer gratification (which may or may not end up paying off if they die or get sick early and end up not being able to consume the wealth that they had accumulated and had been enhanced because of their deferred gratification).

I doubt that we can really realistically proclaim that we all have the same goals, even if their might be similar shared desires that each of us has.. and many times the various ways that we might approach whether I might buy the luxury vehicle and my friend might buy the more economical vehicle, and there are trade-offs to each that may or may not end up playing out as we might expect, and surely some folks might not really theorize about some of the consequences down the road, even if they might theorize what the consequences might be in the short term - but might not be wanting to consider some of the longer-term impacts that might be a bit more difficult to come to reasonable assessments, and no reasonable assessment will even be achieved if it is not attempted, and I am not even saying that every decision needs to be beaten to death prior to going down some kind of an irreversible path.

By the way, another way in which there can be quite a lot of variance in goals (if we are aiming for the same things) has to do with how long someone has been into bitcoin, and sometimes if someone is a low coiner or a no coiner, these people may be cheering for downity BTC prices (that may or may not end up happening and/or may or may not be realistic in their view) based on their own low (or no) BTC accumulation levels.  Over allocation can cause similar kinds of issue (a kind of bias in thinking or goals that is somewhat based upon BTC stash size).

Today the market speaks. The market is still very vulnerable to issues of negative sentiment and FUD. Maybe every perspective is different in understanding the basic principles and dynamics of the market well. Our goals here may all be the same, only the means of delivery may differ in learning and developing a thorough understanding of Bitcoin, which in turn forms confidence in the cryptocurrency. Yes. it's normal and I really appreciate it. Thanks for the advice and opinion.

The recent SEC action against Binance which triggered panic selling and a significant drop in Bitcoin with price decreased more than $1500 in a single session. It is likely that Bitcoin market will continue facing such volatility in coming weeks and months, as this is how Bitcoin market has been behaving historically which is its inherent characteristic. However, as long term investors, we should not overly concerned about such negative development and remain committed to our long term strategy.

Yes.. volatility is likely inevitable.

yes attacks upon bitcoin is likely inevitable in the short term.

How do you know that the BTC price movement will be negative, merely because you have reasonable speculations in regards to the above two.

There are other things going on in bitcoinlandia too.

Are those things positive or negative in terms of their affects upon BTC prices?

Are you able to figure out all of the various factors that would cause you (I am not referring to you specifically Sayeds56 - even though it seems YUriy1991 seems to have a DOWNity vision) to conclude that there are high odds that the BTC price might be going down rather than UP from here in terms of a 1 month time line?  3 month time line?  6 month timeline?  what other timeline would you like?  and what kinds of odds for down rather than up would you place on each of these?  greater than 50/50?

How about the $15,479 bottom that had taken place in November 2022?  What are the odds that the bottom is in?  

You can also choose other price targets and try to figure out odds that the BTC price might hit those price points.  How much value are you going to set aside in order to be able to buy BTC at those various price points ... and then what if they do not end up playing out?  Are you going to be o.k. with still holding value that is not in BTC?  

Also, what about selling BTC in order to buy lower?  Good luck with that, even though people do these kinds of things (even people who are in their earlier stages of BTC accumulation... and will those kinds of tactics work out?

Of course in this thread we are not really getting into selling to buy back lower because we are largely wanting to emphasize tactics to either regularly buy and/or to figure out various points in which we buy on dips and how much of a dip do we buy and how much we might save for further dips, if such further dips were to occur. and then if they don't occur, then what do we do?  Are we still ok.. with that?
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June 06, 2023, 07:35:38 AM
By the negative relationship between Binance and SEC Bitcoin prices drop significantly since yesterday. The price has fallen by 8.3 percent in the last seven days, 4.5 percent price drop in 24 hours. But such a situation is not new in crypto. Almost same situation like this happens and will happen in the future too but only those who take advantage of that opportunity can join the list of real gainers. This is an opportunity for those who are waiting to buy from the dip. And those who know how to capitalize on opportunities will also be successful in Bitcoin holdings.
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June 06, 2023, 03:25:11 AM
Today the market speaks. The market is still very vulnerable to issues of negative sentiment and FUD. Maybe every perspective is different in understanding the basic principles and dynamics of the market well. Our goals here may all be the same, only the means of delivery may differ in learning and developing a thorough understanding of Bitcoin, which in turn forms confidence in the cryptocurrency. Yes. it's normal and I really appreciate it. Thanks for the advice and opinion.

The recent SEC action against Binance which triggered panic selling and a significant drop in Bitcoin with price decreased more than $1500 in a single session. It is likely that Bitcoin market will continue facing such volatility in coming weeks and months, as this is how Bitcoin market has been behaving historically which is its inherent characteristic. However, as long term investors, we should not overly concerned about such negative development and remain committed to our long term strategy.
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June 06, 2023, 02:39:40 AM
Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to proclaim that I am any kind of a genius or that I am better (or smarter) than everyone else, but there are things that each and everyone of us can try to employ better methods and tactics in terms of trying to use actual facts that support logic and sound conclusions, rather than failing/refusing to learn or to understand how some relevant (and inconvenient) facts might fit so that we can arrive at better conclusions, even if we might never really be able to achieve 100% perfect information.. .or perfect logic or perfectly sound conclusions, but we can still strive to be better and to learn from the various ways that our information, logic and conclusions might be defective.

Today the market speaks. The market is still very vulnerable to issues of negative sentiment and FUD. Maybe every perspective is different in understanding the basic principles and dynamics of the market well. Our goals here may all be the same, only the means of delivery may differ in learning and developing a thorough understanding of Bitcoin, which in turn forms confidence in the cryptocurrency. Yes. it's normal and I really appreciate it. Thanks for the advice and opinion.
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June 05, 2023, 11:27:10 PM
Also, I doubt anyone just achieves "extensive knowledge" without a lot of practice and making improvements along the way, so likely each and everyone of us start out as being pretty dumb in a lot of ways, and there are ways that some people learn more along the way as compared with others and some people are also persistent in their various ways of pursuing knowledge and attempting to actually apply that knowledge to the real world - rather than ongoingly speculating about various fantasy worlds.

Appreciate your comment that understanding the importance of applying knowledge  is crucial in real life situations. Simply acquisition of knowledge without any intention or desire doesn't helps or serves and purpose for the society. True knowledge extends beyond theories and hypothesis scenarios. Genuine learning comes from actively engaging with people and apply your knowledge to solve the problem what society is facing.

The same principle can be applied to Bitcoin investment by utilizing our learning for making informed decision, which can lead to financial stability in our life.
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June 05, 2023, 06:36:26 PM
BUT if we're lucky enough, I would suggest that you keep that you're HODLing Bitcoin only to yourself, not even your relatives and close friends should know. Believe me, wealth doesn't entirely change the person who made the wealth. It changes those people around the person because they know he/she has made wealth.

In my personal experience the "wealth change" wasn't that much during last ATH, but if Bitcoin surges to $1 billion, I probably should go into hiding.
Indeed, it's not just Bitcoin that we need to keep secretive. We don't know who is who, and we also don't know who those that are close to us are; we just have to play it safe first before we think about praising ourselves. That's why in this forum, privacy protection is among the things that's highly advisable to holders.

Even if it's not Bitcoin holdings, it's important to always note that there are levels of wealth that we might be in possession of that we don't need to disclose to anyone. Because betrayal comes from envy, jealousy, and greed, if someone who is close to you knows that you are holding a huge amount of Bitcoin or some level of wealth, they can turn out to be the unknown enemy that we have been hearing about. If they can't harm you themselves, they will discuss you with the next person who will. Sometimes they won't do it because they want to take away all that you have, but because they just don't want you to have it.
One thing is acquire wealth and another is to maintain or should I say preserve this wealth, like you said the world is filled with evil minds so keeping your holdings secret will probably do you more good than harm because it also saves you the stress of not having to answer to the excessive request of wants and favors  from every fucking person around. More wealth results to more burden and more insecurity only if you exposed the secret of yours about your assets be it crypto or any other kind.

But I believe no good investor that might have started this bitcoin journey here in the forum that won't have the knowledge or even the basics about crypto and how vital it is to keep it all secretive but I guess some people just let that feeling of knowing their are massive owner of a significant amount of bitcoin get to them.

I don't know why you feel some kind of need to keep throwing out the vague term of "crypto" DaNNy001 when this is a bitcoin thread.

Do you believe that using the term crypto makes you look smarter in terms of your desire to include shitcoins into your discussion of what a bitcoin holder might be holding and might be keeping secret?

Yes.. maybe try writing your post over and specifying what you mean.

If you want to say that a person might hold a lot of variety of wealth that includes bitcoin and various other kinds of crypto (or shitcoins) or maybe some other kinds of assets that s/he would like to not disclose or to keep them secret, then maybe that is a potentially valid question, that might possibly be somehow related to this thread, even though we should be trying to focus on bitcoin here rather than throwing out vague concepts in regards to crypto and not even really specifying what is supposed to be meant by such term... in terms of what kinds of shitcoins that any of us might be holding in the future (besides holding bitcoin) and the extent to which there is any need to talk about that kind of a vagueness in this thread.

Don't get me wrong, it is likely not completely off topic, but it still seems important to me to focus on bitcoin first, and then if you feel that there is some kind of a need to refer to shitcoins (or crypto - presuming non-bitcoin digital assets or something like that), then sure maybe it would be ok. to mention that, but it mostly seems to me that you were just being sloppy in your choice of language (whether inadvertent or not).
I actually meant the use of that word to be bitcoin itself but actually used crypto instead of being specific @bitcoin, knowing fully well that crypto covers all range of coins including the recent shitcoins project that are currently streaming the bitcoin blockchain causing some much price hike in terms of fees. I agree with you that am being sloppy in terms of choice of language used and as you have corrected today, I think I will be more careful and direct when choosing the right word to relate to the discussion involved.
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June 05, 2023, 06:23:28 PM
BUT if we're lucky enough, I would suggest that you keep that you're HODLing Bitcoin only to yourself, not even your relatives and close friends should know. Believe me, wealth doesn't entirely change the person who made the wealth. It changes those people around the person because they know he/she has made wealth.

In my personal experience the "wealth change" wasn't that much during last ATH, but if Bitcoin surges to $1 billion, I probably should go into hiding.
Indeed, it's not just Bitcoin that we need to keep secretive. We don't know who is who, and we also don't know who those that are close to us are; we just have to play it safe first before we think about praising ourselves. That's why in this forum, privacy protection is among the things that's highly advisable to holders.

Even if it's not Bitcoin holdings, it's important to always note that there are levels of wealth that we might be in possession of that we don't need to disclose to anyone. Because betrayal comes from envy, jealousy, and greed, if someone who is close to you knows that you are holding a huge amount of Bitcoin or some level of wealth, they can turn out to be the unknown enemy that we have been hearing about. If they can't harm you themselves, they will discuss you with the next person who will. Sometimes they won't do it because they want to take away all that you have, but because they just don't want you to have it.
One thing is acquire wealth and another is to maintain or should I say preserve this wealth, like you said the world is filled with evil minds so keeping your holdings secret will probably do you more good than harm because it also saves you the stress of not having to answer to the excessive request of wants and favors  from every fucking person around. More wealth results to more burden and more insecurity only if you exposed the secret of yours about your assets be it crypto or any other kind.

But I believe no good investor that might have started this bitcoin journey here in the forum that won't have the knowledge or even the basics about crypto and how vital it is to keep it all secretive but I guess some people just let that feeling of knowing their are massive owner of a significant amount of bitcoin get to them.

I don't know why you feel some kind of need to keep throwing out the vague term of "crypto" DaNNy001 when this is a bitcoin thread.

Do you believe that using the term crypto makes you look smarter in terms of your desire to include shitcoins into your discussion of what a bitcoin holder might be holding and might be keeping secret?

Yes.. maybe try writing your post over and specifying what you mean.

If you want to say that a person might hold a lot of variety of wealth that includes bitcoin and various other kinds of crypto (or shitcoins) or maybe some other kinds of assets that s/he would like to not disclose or to keep them secret, then maybe that is a potentially valid question, that might possibly be somehow related to this thread, even though we should be trying to focus on bitcoin here rather than throwing out vague concepts in regards to crypto and not even really specifying what is supposed to be meant by such term... in terms of what kinds of shitcoins that any of us might be holding in the future (besides holding bitcoin) and the extent to which there is any need to talk about that kind of a vagueness in this thread.

Don't get me wrong, it is likely not completely off topic, but it still seems important to me to focus on bitcoin first, and then if you feel that there is some kind of a need to refer to shitcoins (or crypto - presuming non-bitcoin digital assets or something like that), then sure maybe it would be ok. to mention that, but it mostly seems to me that you were just being sloppy in your choice of language (whether inadvertent or not).
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BUT if we're lucky enough, I would suggest that you keep that you're HODLing Bitcoin only to yourself, not even your relatives and close friends should know. Believe me, wealth doesn't entirely change the person who made the wealth. It changes those people around the person because they know he/she has made wealth.

In my personal experience the "wealth change" wasn't that much during last ATH, but if Bitcoin surges to $1 billion, I probably should go into hiding.

Indeed, it's not just Bitcoin that we need to keep secretive. We don't know who is who, and we also don't know who those that are close to us are; we just have to play it safe first before we think about praising ourselves. That's why in this forum, privacy protection is among the things that's highly advisable to holders.

Even if it's not Bitcoin holdings, it's important to always note that there are levels of wealth that we might be in possession of that we don't need to disclose to anyone. Because betrayal comes from envy, jealousy, and greed, if someone who is close to you knows that you are holding a huge amount of Bitcoin or some level of wealth, they can turn out to be the unknown enemy that we have been hearing about. If they can't harm you themselves, they will discuss you with the next person who will. Sometimes they won't do it because they want to take away all that you have, but because they just don't want you to have it.
 
 

One thing is acquire wealth and another is to maintain or should I say preserve this wealth, like you said the world is filled with evil minds so keeping your holdings secret will probably do you more good than harm because it also saves you the stress of not having to answer to the excessive request of wants and favors  from every fucking person around. More wealth results to more burden and more insecurity only if you exposed the secret of yours about your assets be it crypto or any other kind.

But I believe no good investor that might have started this bitcoin journey here in the forum that won't have the knowledge or even the basics about crypto and how vital it is to keep it all secretive but I guess some people just let that feeling of knowing their are massive owner of a significant amount of bitcoin get to them.
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June 05, 2023, 03:32:37 PM

BUT if we're lucky enough, I would suggest that you keep that you're HODLing Bitcoin only to yourself, not even your relatives and close friends should know. Believe me, wealth doesn't entirely change the person who made the wealth. It changes those people around the person because they know he/she has made wealth.

In my personal experience the "wealth change" wasn't that much during last ATH, but if Bitcoin surges to $1 billion, I probably should go into hiding.

Indeed, it's not just Bitcoin that we need to keep secretive. We don't know who is who, and we also don't know who those that are close to us are; we just have to play it safe first before we think about praising ourselves. That's why in this forum, privacy protection is among the things that's highly advisable to holders.

Even if it's not Bitcoin holdings, it's important to always note that there are levels of wealth that we might be in possession of that we don't need to disclose to anyone. Because betrayal comes from envy, jealousy, and greed, if someone who is close to you knows that you are holding a huge amount of Bitcoin or some level of wealth, they can turn out to be the unknown enemy that we have been hearing about. If they can't harm you themselves, they will discuss you with the next person who will. Sometimes they won't do it because they want to take away all that you have, but because they just don't want you to have it.
 
 
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I don't need any particular technique for your Bitcoin holders just store it in a hardware wallet and it's safe and no one will reach it individually, no need to worry about tracking the flow of funds because we haven't committed a crime so what is there to be afraid of?
You are absolutely right in stating that investing in Bitcoin is not inherently illegal. However, it is  unfortunate that in some parts of the world, investing/trading in crypto currencies is considered illegal, which is seen as unfair fair and against the interest of general public. In this situation, safeguarding privacy of investment is crucial to avoid any unforeseen circumstances.

It is essential for all of  us to persistently raise our voices on all available platforms to advocate the regulation of Bitcoin. This concentrated effort can build pressure on legislators to address this long standing issue that affects many.
In some countries, bitcoin is still isolated because the government cannot control everyone who invests in bitcoin, so the counter government will oppose any form of investment that cannot control it, so it's no wonder there are still hiding people investing in bitcoin because they don't want it to be known by anyone including the government, so I think for now there are still pros and cons to this increasingly popular bitcoin.

I think there have been many voices of opinion about bitcoin, including in other forums, but the government's decision is still in their hands, but I am now quite happy that investing in bitcoin is not illegal and legal in several countries, it's just that transaction tools can't be used and fiat is their solution and that's what the government wants, bitcoin is still 14 years old I think it's still early for various countries to adopt it faster but wait in a few more years a revolution will definitely happen.
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Actually it's just a matter of hard work and dedication. If we are willing to learn and take action, we will be able to achieve positive results in managing our BTC assets. Success is not difficult, but requires persistence and the will to act. Regarding storing and adding BTC assets, it is important to find out on which exchanges the coin is available and at what price to buy it and is it considered safe. Once you have the coins, you need to know where and when to sell them. Easy.
Success is easy in theory, but it takes a lot of conviction to follow a plan of consistently and persistently on an ongoing basis.

If success was so easy-peasy, then there would be way more people who already have financial security in their lives, and surely that is not true.  There is also regional and geographical variation in regards to historically who gets wealthy and how they get wealthy, which has a lot of corrupt, confusing and preclusive aspects.  Surely bitcoin is a new way to potentially become rich and to have success, and it has ONLY been around for 14 years, and at the same time has ONLY had a market, a monetary value and increasingly more accessible to everyone for around 12-ish years.. and arguably even less than that in terms of people in all parts of the world actually being able to reasonably access bitcoin - once they learn about it.. seems like challenges to me, rather than ease in being successful..

If it is so easy to be successful, why are there so many poor people in the world?  Is it because the so many poor people are too dumb or they are not "trying hard enough"?

You hardly make any sense YUriy1991, unless you are only viewing the world and the circumstances of people with a kind of rose-tinted glasses in which you believe everyone has opportunties that might have had been available to you and to your particular circumstances, or are you perhaps trying to suggest that you came out of the gutters, pulled yourself up by the bootstraps to become the successful person that presumptively you have become completely through your own efforts?
Just like people ask, what is BTC and how to invest with it..

I will concede that there are a lot of people with very dumb and superficial ideas about bitcoin (and about other subject matters too), and there are a lot of people who will come to a lot of dumb conclusions about bitcoin (and other aspects about the world and the way it works) based on very little information that supports their dumb-ass theories, but even if there are  a lot of people who might think like that and use poor logic and few facts to arrive at their conclusions about bitcoin and the ways of the world, that should not mean that we should give their dumb-ass theories any kind of meaningful weight or to spout out the dumb theories as if they were "important to consider;" otherwise we may well include ourselves into the same kind of thinking and committing the same kinds of fallacies.

Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to proclaim that I am any kind of a genius or that I am better (or smarter) than everyone else, but there are things that each and everyone of us can try to employ better methods and tactics in terms of trying to use actual facts that support logic and sound conclusions, rather than failing/refusing to learn or to understand how some relevant (and inconvenient) facts might fit so that we can arrive at better conclusions, even if we might never really be able to achieve 100% perfect information.. .or perfect logic or perfectly sound conclusions, but we can still strive to be better and to learn from the various ways that our information, logic and conclusions might be defective.

Just like people ask, what is BTC and how to invest with it..
Different bro between the practice in the field and theory.
If to find out what BTC is and how to invest with BTC is very easy and not at all difficult through theory.
When in practice, someone will be faced with various problems. One problem that is difficult to practice is "weak hand" and "weak mind to analyze".

Like the sentence or statement "buy and sell at the right time". Easy to pronounce, but difficult in its application.
Have you ever made a roadmap in compiling success? Smiley

These are a lot of great ideas yudi09.. first of all there are all kinds of ways in which putting theories into practice can better inform any of us about the extent to which our theories are somewhat reasonable and/or tailored to our own situations, and in bitcoin there are quite a few individualized factors to consider that we might not really understand very well until we have practiced for a while, and even circumstances in year 1 could be quite different from circumstances in year 5 as compared with circumstances in year 10, so frequently it is good to adjust from time to time.. and like you suggested, some kind of a roadmap or projection of what you want to achieve can be laid out, and even with the application of a roadmap and compared with the earlier stages of theorizing the roadmap, frequently there will need to be some adjustments along the way, and some of those adjustments might be minor and sometimes there will need to be some major changes that will help to make the roadmap more realistic in terms of being able to achieve.

I personally prefer to try to create both achievable objectives and also aspirational objectives (that may or may not end up being achieved), and sometimes even the objectives need to be changed or to be made more realistic based on actual circumstances rather than circumstances that you wish (or project them to be them to be at some point in the future - that may or may not end up happening)... just because something is achievable does not mean that it "will be achieved," even though once it is actually achieved it becomes way more concrete and may also end up affecting future projections based on the actual achievement of some intermediary goal rather than the speculations about achieving some intermediary goal.

Grin Grin Grin. if taken seriously, yes seriously. if you take it casually, don't get carried away by thinking about BTC trading. It's a game of timing and psychology. Of Course. Each has its own pattern. Extensive knowledge makes our life easy, whatever that is my friend.

Yes.. you can choose the extent to which you take anything in your life seriously, and sometimes you can have way more fun if you have taken certain aspects of your life more seriously (such as building wealth versus gambling or getting lured into "fun" shitcoins). 

Also, I doubt anyone just achieves "extensive knowledge" without a lot of practice and making improvements along the way, so likely each and everyone of us start out as being pretty dumb in a lot of ways, and there are ways that some people learn more along the way as compared with others and some people are also persistent in their various ways of pursuing knowledge and attempting to actually apply that knowledge to the real world - rather than ongoingly speculating about various fantasy worlds.
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Just like people ask, what is BTC and how to invest with it..
Different bro between the practice in the field and theory.
If to find out what BTC is and how to invest with BTC is very easy and not at all difficult through theory.
When in practice, someone will be faced with various problems. One problem that is difficult to practice is "weak hand" and "weak mind to analyze".

Like the sentence or statement "buy and sell at the right time". Easy to pronounce, but difficult in its application.
Have you ever made a roadmap in compiling success? Smiley

 Grin Grin Grin. if taken seriously, yes seriously. if you take it casually, don't get carried away by thinking about BTC trading. It's a game of timing and psychology. Of Course. Each has its own pattern. Extensive knowledge makes our life easy, whatever that is my friend.
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June 05, 2023, 03:07:34 AM
Just like people ask, what is BTC and how to invest with it..
Different bro between the practice in the field and theory.
If to find out what BTC is and how to invest with BTC is very easy and not at all difficult through theory.
When in practice, someone will be faced with various problems. One problem that is difficult to practice is "weak hand" and "weak mind to analyze".

Like the sentence or statement "buy and sell at the right time". Easy to pronounce, but difficult in its application.
Have you ever made a roadmap in compiling success? Smiley
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