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Quote from: UNO_owner on April 22, 2014, 05:28:45 PM

EVERY SINGLE coin with a premine and/or IPO requires a certain amount of trust in the developers. Period. This is why I usually don't invest in premines. With CAI, I decided to trust and invest. The change to proof of stake has not substantially changed anything about this coin with regards to the premine. I asked Stuhlman in IRC if the premine would be allowed to mint coins, and he said no. I still think something needs to be done with the premine to substantially reduce or remove it as a threat, but then I have always felt that way.

If you don't want to invest because of the premine, fine, but its not a "scam" until they sell the premine on the market and screw us all. If that happens then you guys can laugh until your blue in the face.

I thought it did. it went from 2% to ~28% premine with PoS

I don't want to laugh at anyone. I think the last few pages of posts were to let miners know what's happening.
I wasn't aware that the tiny elementals game was already out on itunes, but the Dev said it's just getting accepted by apple. someone made me aware, and that was enough to raise the red flag.

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I understand some of the critices, and i think that the point is that today news requires to generate a new level of confidence, because
the premine demands this new confidence level, and because the proposed benefit of the change comes from your potential as a business

Ripple has a 98% of premined coins, and some people thinks its a scam, but a lot remains confident, and use and trade ripple. But Ripple have a public business, well known representants that appears in mass media, etc...

So, at this level, to make this change from cai to caix. And from only coin, to also shares, do you need, to present yourself more comprehensive.
Who are part of this business? What is the relation with tinyelementals? And to generate some proof....like an statement from tinyelementals.com confirming this relationship. etc...

Could be interesting if you talk about it, and comes with your decition after it

(for the community i think that could be good also to be a bit patient...if the dev team is a collective process, stuhlman not can answer
all in some minutes...)

cheers

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EVERY SINGLE coin with a premine and/or IPO requires a certain amount of trust in the developers. Period. This is why I usually don't invest in premines. With CAI, I decided to trust and invest. The change to proof of stake has not substantially changed anything about this coin with regards to the premine. I asked Stuhlman in IRC if the premine would be allowed to mint coins, and he said no. I still think something needs to be done with the premine to substantially reduce or remove it as a threat, but then I have always felt that way.

If you don't want to invest because of the premine, fine, but its not a "scam" until they sell the premine on the market and screw us all. If that happens then you guys can laugh until your blue in the face.

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Just putting it out there

That is all

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Quote from: thdillin on April 22, 2014, 05:01:39 PM

Something still smells fishy!

Why is it you look at every single coin thread, and at some point in there you find the scam talk usually after a rise in price. Then there's the moon b.s. Then there's the despair when it drops. It's always the same story and it's getting really old. I'm beginning to think there are way too many young kids playing here with money they probably shouldnt.
Guys, if you think your getting scammed then get out. You don't have to get everyone else to agree with you because really most here like myself don't give 2 shits how much the devs have, I'm just here to make money.

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Something still smells fishy!

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Quote from: UNO_owner on April 22, 2014, 04:57:13 PM

For all those saying the premine is an issue. It is, and I agree with you, but the original payout schedule of the coin was so slow that even had it not switched to PoS, it would have been an incredibly large percentage of the coin for *years* anyway.

So, its not like much has changed in that regard, maybe its just the new people coming here to research before investing.

Thanks, been a scam since day 1.

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For all those saying the premine is an issue. It is, and I agree with you, but the original payout schedule of the coin was so slow that even had it not switched to PoS, it would have been an incredibly large percentage of the coin for *years* anyway.

So, its not like much has changed in that regard, maybe its just the new people coming here to research before investing.

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we're also doing you a favor by investing in this fucking coin!

at the very least you can show the questions that have been raised some respect and address them like a mature adult. Or how about if you want to put on your business man hat then respond like
a business man would if he wanted to stay in business.

This is what this medium is for. To ask and to respond. Some posts will be negative, but you take that in with the positive. Please, if you want to be given respect, respect us!

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Quote from: Jacques21 on April 22, 2014, 04:33:10 PM

No one is scamming anyone, keep dumping so i can buy cheap CAI. If you dont want to invest in CAI then dont.
No one is forcing you to stay, but the people that want to stay dont want to read all your negative posts the whole time.

Questions = Negative posts? I think you got something wrong there. Negative post's what TheStuhlman responded.

You'll learn these things one day... I hope.

Yeah no kidding. Community has questions so developer comes on here calling troll like a child. Looks terrible to future investors.

I don't see the point in telling us to leave. We are doing you a favor by telling the truth.

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No one is scamming anyone, keep dumping so i can buy cheap CAI. If you dont want to invest in CAI then dont.
No one is forcing you to stay, but the people that want to stay dont want to read all your negative posts the whole time.

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Quote from: TheStuhlman on April 22, 2014, 03:32:28 PM

I thought so the trolls are back Grin

You guys are trolling because you sold. And I promised those who sell to regret it. And now you are in regret mode. Which translates to trolling. Feel free to let the steam out. This thread is not moderated. Go ahead let it all out. Feel better? I told you so.

I do feel better. Made 1.2BTC Grin

converted to $660CDN. Bought mom a nice present for Mother's day coming up.
Two concert tickets for gf and me. Thank You!

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Quote from: solid12345 on April 22, 2014, 02:55:16 PM

Just FYI Tiny Elementals has been out for months and no mention of Caishencoin anywhere on its official website. Plus the devs are Polish!

any response on this from you stuhlmann?
or any response to the problem we as the community have with you having 30% of the coins premined?

or are you busy marking critics as "trollism" ?

i am tempted to pull my miners from CAI, sell the rest i didn't sold at todays 100k pump and go somewhere else where i can have more faith in success, because atm my faith for CAI/CAIx is really low.

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Quote from: thdillin on April 22, 2014, 03:49:07 PM

...but the pre-mine is Ok because they make Video games Sad

Correction, the game is already made and i'm not even sure they have any connection to it, probably just a dead old iPhone game they found online and claimed they are integrating into it.

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I find it shocking you think you can switch your 2% premine to a 28% premine. This coin is not for the people, it is the opposite of what crypto is meant to be. These type of scammers are trying to ruin crypto for their own selfish gains.

Good, I'm not the only one that caught that. LOL
Dumping on MintPal, and pointing my miners back to Vert. I rather take a "small" profit now, than be sorry later.

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Quote from: thdillin on April 22, 2014, 03:41:24 PM

Quote from: TheStuhlman on April 22, 2014, 03:32:28 PM

I thought so the trolls are back Grin

You guys are trolling because you sold. And I promised those who sell to regret it. And now you are in regret mode. Which translates to trolling. Feel free to let the steam out. This thread is not moderated. Go ahead let it all out. Feel better? I told you so.

Right, Sold... See I only have about 500 CAI total. I do have about 200MHs (Scrypt) 120MHs (Scrypt:N) of mining power that will never be pointed at this coin, for good reason. Nope, I am just along for the ride to see what you come up with next. It is just now getting entertaining. But, this thing has all the signs of being one big scam. People should know that you pre-mined 28% for yourselves, used the miners to pay off your IPOs and now you are going to convert this into a new coin? Seriously? Then you claim to have a company. Where is the mystical company based, where did you get your business license. Show some real transparency if you want people to take you seriously. Meet your deadline, deadlines you set yourself. I am not mad, just sounding the SCAM alarm, because you have all the traits of a well orchestrated scam, of the worst kind I might add, a scam against the miners, the miners who are the backbone of crycurs...

Good call, where is your business located. What is the name? Is there any official business license or listing somewhere that we can see? What is your company's website?

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...but the pre-mine is Ok because they make Video games Sad

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Quote from: TheStuhlman on April 22, 2014, 03:32:28 PM

I thought so the trolls are back Grin

You guys are trolling because you sold. And I promised those who sell to regret it. And now you are in regret mode. Which translates to trolling. Feel free to let the steam out. This thread is not moderated. Go ahead let it all out. Feel better? I told you so.

So the developer has nothing to say except come on and call everyone trolls. I thought at least you would come on here with some misleading information about the premine and that everything is okay, not to worry.

I find it shocking you think you can switch your 2% premine to a 28% premine. This coin is not for the people, it is the opposite of what crypto is meant to be. These type of scammers are trying to ruin crypto for their own selfish gains.

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