Well it certainly is never fun to be called a troll. I wrote, after thinking about writing for a long time, because I feel like the rug was pulled out from under me as an investor. I don't understand why it was necessary to make all of these changes, and I no longer understand the purpose of the coin. Is that trolling? Am I trolling if I, as an investor, question the 180 degree change that has been made to what I invested in?
Stuhlman, I have always had tremendous respect for you. I had hoped that you would sell me on what you've changed. Shame you resorted to calling me a name instead. More power to your company if you pull this off. I may be the one down the road thinking I should have held onto my CAI or CAIx or whatever it is (I totally don't understand how one will be transitioned to the other).
If nothing else, please take away from my message what I'm hearing from many people - we don't get this. It doesn't make sense to us. We don't see where you are going with this coin. We don't understand what it means to us, as investors. Spend your energy on answering those questions and little nobodies like me will stop posting.
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OK PLEASE CLARIFY THIS FOR ME.
Is this Appgame going to be Cai Shen only for purchase?
If not I'm trying to figure out how a company can create a market cap out of crypto investment and then make their profits on fiat currency.
Please clarify immediately because I'm sure as hell if you can buy the game with fiat the crypto is utterly meaningless.
Is this Appgame going to be Cai Shen only for purchase?
If not I'm trying to figure out how a company can create a market cap out of crypto investment and then make their profits on fiat currency.
Please clarify immediately because I'm sure as hell if you can buy the game with fiat the crypto is utterly meaningless.
The game servers will soon start accepting payments for our ingame purchases in altcoins not just CAIx. The game itself is free. Inapp purchases will accept fiat in the game and soon in crypto currency on our server, where a buyer can convert into game coin. We are introducing the crypto aspect of the game in the final release. Now it will be released in open beta. The funding for the game development does not come from CAIx or CAI. We are funding the game, the revenue from the game whether it's from fiat or alts will be split 50/50 for costs, and to invest back into CAIx
The tournament mode will allow other coin developers whose coin is accepted by our server for payment to advertise the coin by offering purses in alts to weekly winners. This is a cross promotion that will help CAIx/Alts and game.
If regulations will allow crypto currency on app stores any time soon, our apps/games will be ready and quick to adopt to such change. Our working capital does not come from crypto. All CAI traded on the market at this time is CAI mined by miners.
OK PLEASE CLARIFY THIS FOR ME.
Is this Appgame going to be Cai Shen only for purchase?
If not I'm trying to figure out how a company can create a market cap out of crypto investment and then make their profits on fiat currency.
Please clarify immediately because I'm sure as hell if you can buy the game with fiat the crypto is utterly meaningless.
Is this Appgame going to be Cai Shen only for purchase?
If not I'm trying to figure out how a company can create a market cap out of crypto investment and then make their profits on fiat currency.
Please clarify immediately because I'm sure as hell if you can buy the game with fiat the crypto is utterly meaningless.
I've been reading this thread from the start and invested in CAI. Daily I've read post after post talking about what a great investment this would be, to "just wait! we'll be announcing things that will change crypto!". I've read how this team will be more innovative than any other. Then I started reading about how every.single.original.feature of the coin will be changed. But "just wait! this will be even better!". That CAI is gone, but "just wait! now there's CAIx!". And miners and investors should not worry, because CAIx will be even better!
Was the original design of this coin flawed? Is this new design somehow better? What benefit does this coin bring to crypto? What advances does it bring? To me, the team seems to be just running through every money making scheme imaginable as quickly as possible (with none of those schemes benefiting investors). I would like to know one - just one - good reason to even support this circus anymore.
Was the original design of this coin flawed? Is this new design somehow better? What benefit does this coin bring to crypto? What advances does it bring? To me, the team seems to be just running through every money making scheme imaginable as quickly as possible (with none of those schemes benefiting investors). I would like to know one - just one - good reason to even support this circus anymore.
WoW I do have respect for you DCgirl for what you do for UTC, but to come and troll like this, is a surprise to me. Although I do not like to deal with trolling I will address your concerns. We have always said this team will be here to implement changes when needed. Most of our work is done outside the client however when we feel the need to do a change that will secure and improve on our client we won't wait months to do it. Is the Client we have now flawed? launch was smooth all the pools working from day one, miners are not complaining, investors are not complaining. The only ones complaining are those who did not believe us and missed our message. What we are doing to crypto is beyond what any other team has done. And will prove that. Money making schemes that do not benefit the investors? did you even click on the chart for CAI? did we use the premine to compete with miners on the Market? Actually with the change we are doing we are destroying hundreds of BTC worth of premine. That is the greatest money making scheme that anyone came up with. After the game release we would have proven our project was not all talk but action, we decided to destroy the premine because we do not need to walk away with bags of BTC like other devs. If you have a business background you will know if we continue to hold the premine and keep the current client we will be holding 100's of BTC correct? yet you feel offended because we are destroying that? if we are scammers like you portray us, why not keep current client and sell our premine and walk away? nothing was forcing us to do it correct? But again with all due respect, please negate these facts with facts and do not resort to trolling on this thread unless you can list your facts. This Crircus will teach people how greed should not be the leading factor in crypto world, and soon you will see this scammer Stuhlman destroy a premine just to prove it. Keep an eye on this closely and if investors do not benefit by what I am doing then maybe I should apologize to them for not dumping the premine on them, because things are really getting twisted here.
It is very sad that you are considering these serious dcgirl's concerns as trolling. I have exactly the same feelings. I was a big fan of CAI, because I saw your good work for UTC. I invested in IPO a little and bough some more after release. But now I'm confused with the speed the idea behind CAI is changing. Some concepts I saw during the existence of CAI: chinese-like coin, promo vids, PoW, then PoS, then game development, then CAIx. This is just not trustworthy for me. I sold during one of the pump and maybe I will ride some waves but I won't invest seriously until I see some stabilization and real results.
CAI official p2pool
Please point your miners (ScryptN) here :
http://thepool.pw:2888
and use your CAI address as username
for example:
vertminer --scrypt-vert -o thepool.pw:2888 -u YourCAIPayoutAddress -p x
you will receive payments directly to your wallet!
Why use P2Pool:
- You will get better rewards: P2Pools award transaction fees from black rewards to the miners
- Your mined coins will be deposited directly into your wallet, they are never held by any pool "operator" and cannot be lost due to incompetence or fraudulent behaviour.
- P2Pool is DDoS resistant, it is impossible to DDoS the entire peer-to-peer P2Pool network, at best all someone can do is knock a node offline, in which case your client will just switch to one of your failover nodes
- You do not have to register on any pool sites, etc. all you need is a CAI address which you will use as your username, and your rewards will be paid directly into your wallet.
- Even if the node you are using goes down, you will not lose a single microCAI of payment, as the network itself stores your pending rewards, and will distribute them to you as normal.
I've been reading this thread from the start and invested in CAI. Daily I've read post after post talking about what a great investment this would be, to "just wait! we'll be announcing things that will change crypto!". I've read how this team will be more innovative than any other. Then I started reading about how every.single.original.feature of the coin will be changed. But "just wait! this will be even better!". That CAI is gone, but "just wait! now there's CAIx!". And miners and investors should not worry, because CAIx will be even better!
Was the original design of this coin flawed? Is this new design somehow better? What benefit does this coin bring to crypto? What advances does it bring? To me, the team seems to be just running through every money making scheme imaginable as quickly as possible (with none of those schemes benefiting investors). I would like to know one - just one - good reason to even support this circus anymore.
Was the original design of this coin flawed? Is this new design somehow better? What benefit does this coin bring to crypto? What advances does it bring? To me, the team seems to be just running through every money making scheme imaginable as quickly as possible (with none of those schemes benefiting investors). I would like to know one - just one - good reason to even support this circus anymore.
WoW I do have respect for you DCgirl for what you do for UTC, but to come and troll like this, is a surprise to me. Although I do not like to deal with trolling I will address your concerns. We have always said this team will be here to implement changes when needed. Most of our work is done outside the client however when we feel the need to do a change that will secure and improve on our client we won't wait months to do it. Is the Client we have now flawed? launch was smooth all the pools working from day one, miners are not complaining, investors are not complaining. The only ones complaining are those who did not believe us and missed our message. What we are doing to crypto is beyond what any other team has done. And will prove that. Money making schemes that do not benefit the investors? did you even click on the chart for CAI? did we use the premine to compete with miners on the Market? Actually with the change we are doing we are destroying hundreds of BTC worth of premine. That is the greatest money making scheme that anyone came up with. After the game release we would have proven our project was not all talk but action, we decided to destroy the premine because we do not need to walk away with bags of BTC like other devs. If you have a business background you will know if we continue to hold the premine and keep the current client we will be holding 100's of BTC correct? yet you feel offended because we are destroying that? if we are scammers like you portray us, why not keep current client and sell our premine and walk away? nothing was forcing us to do it correct? But again with all due respect, please negate these facts with facts and do not resort to trolling on this thread unless you can list your facts. This Crircus will teach people how greed should not be the leading factor in crypto world, and soon you will see this scammer Stuhlman destroy a premine just to prove it. Keep an eye on this closely and if investors do not benefit by what I am doing then maybe I should apologize to them for not dumping the premine on them, because things are really getting twisted here.
I was amazed by her post too, never seen such critical analysis on the UTC thread, although it might be more constructive there!
I'm no genius, but can you give a laymans explanation to how this is accomplished? I'm sure other will want to know as well.
GER yes your coins will maintain value and premine will be worthless because it will not move to the new chain but your coins will.
So what you're telling me is that the 560000 CAI that was premined will be worthless along with all the CAI that I currently hold when everything moves to CAIx.
If the premine of CAI is worthless after the switch then so is all the CAI that I have now correct? The premined CAI are not some special coins that you can arbitrarily say are worthless without saying my CAI is worthless too is it? Do you have such a switch to make my coins keep their value and make the premine worthless at the same time?
If the premine of CAI is worthless after the switch then so is all the CAI that I have now correct? The premined CAI are not some special coins that you can arbitrarily say are worthless without saying my CAI is worthless too is it? Do you have such a switch to make my coins keep their value and make the premine worthless at the same time?
GER yes your coins will maintain value and premine will be worthless because it will not move to the new chain but your coins will.
So what you're telling me is that the 560000 CAI that was premined will be worthless along with all the CAI that I currently hold when everything moves to CAIx.
If the premine of CAI is worthless after the switch then so is all the CAI that I have now correct? The premined CAI are not some special coins that you can arbitrarily say are worthless without saying my CAI is worthless too is it? Do you have such a switch to make my coins keep their value and make the premine worthless at the same time?
If the premine of CAI is worthless after the switch then so is all the CAI that I have now correct? The premined CAI are not some special coins that you can arbitrarily say are worthless without saying my CAI is worthless too is it? Do you have such a switch to make my coins keep their value and make the premine worthless at the same time?
GER yes your coins will maintain value and premine will be worthless because it will not move to the new chain but your coins will.
I've been reading this thread from the start and invested in CAI. Daily I've read post after post talking about what a great investment this would be, to "just wait! we'll be announcing things that will change crypto!". I've read how this team will be more innovative than any other. Then I started reading about how every.single.original.feature of the coin will be changed. But "just wait! this will be even better!". That CAI is gone, but "just wait! now there's CAIx!". And miners and investors should not worry, because CAIx will be even better!
Was the original design of this coin flawed? Is this new design somehow better? What benefit does this coin bring to crypto? What advances does it bring? To me, the team seems to be just running through every money making scheme imaginable as quickly as possible (with none of those schemes benefiting investors). I would like to know one - just one - good reason to even support this circus anymore.
Was the original design of this coin flawed? Is this new design somehow better? What benefit does this coin bring to crypto? What advances does it bring? To me, the team seems to be just running through every money making scheme imaginable as quickly as possible (with none of those schemes benefiting investors). I would like to know one - just one - good reason to even support this circus anymore.
WoW I do have respect for you DCgirl for what you do for UTC, but to come and troll like this, is a surprise to me. Although I do not like to deal with trolling I will address your concerns. We have always said this team will be here to implement changes when needed. Most of our work is done outside the client however when we feel the need to do a change that will secure and improve on our client we won't wait months to do it. Is the Client we have now flawed? launch was smooth all the pools working from day one, miners are not complaining, investors are not complaining. The only ones complaining are those who did not believe us and missed our message. What we are doing to crypto is beyond what any other team has done. And will prove that. Money making schemes that do not benefit the investors? did you even click on the chart for CAI? did we use the premine to compete with miners on the Market? Actually with the change we are doing we are destroying hundreds of BTC worth of premine. That is the greatest money making scheme that anyone came up with. After the game release we would have proven our project was not all talk but action, we decided to destroy the premine because we do not need to walk away with bags of BTC like other devs. If you have a business background you will know if we continue to hold the premine and keep the current client we will be holding 100's of BTC correct? yet you feel offended because we are destroying that? if we are scammers like you portray us, why not keep current client and sell our premine and walk away? nothing was forcing us to do it correct? But again with all due respect, please negate these facts with facts and do not resort to trolling on this thread unless you can list your facts. This Crircus will teach people how greed should not be the leading factor in crypto world, and soon you will see this scammer Stuhlman destroy a premine just to prove it. Keep an eye on this closely and if investors do not benefit by what I am doing then maybe I should apologize to them for not dumping the premine on them, because things are really getting twisted here.
So what you're telling me is that the 560000 CAI that was premined will be worthless along with all the CAI that I currently hold when everything moves to CAIx.
If the premine of CAI is worthless after the switch then so is all the CAI that I have now correct? The premined CAI are not some special coins that you can arbitrarily say are worthless without saying my CAI is worthless too is it? Do you have such a switch to make my coins keep their value and make the premine worthless at the same time?
If the premine of CAI is worthless after the switch then so is all the CAI that I have now correct? The premined CAI are not some special coins that you can arbitrarily say are worthless without saying my CAI is worthless too is it? Do you have such a switch to make my coins keep their value and make the premine worthless at the same time?
THAT IS THE QUESTION. You've got 280 BTC worth of CAI which will be doing what exactly? I'm not being hostile but, I'm sure it's on a lot of peoples minds. Saying "trust us we won't sell it." doesn't really fly with me in the light of the Dev's taking 2% off the top of CAIx as well.
I'm not looking for math I'm looking for a strait answer on this premine.
"I have said before the move to CAIx will not include the premine."
I'm not looking for math I'm looking for a strait answer on this premine.
"I have said before the move to CAIx will not include the premine."
The premine will not move to CAIx so it will not be worth anything. How hard is that to understand?
THAT IS THE QUESTION. You've got 280 BTC worth of CAI which will be doing what exactly? I'm not being hostile but, I'm sure it's on a lot of peoples minds. Saying "trust us we won't sell it." doesn't really fly with me in the light of the Dev's taking 2% off the top of CAIx as well.
I'm not looking for math I'm looking for a strait answer on this premine.
"I have said before the move to CAIx will not include the premine."
I'm not looking for math I'm looking for a strait answer on this premine.
"I have said before the move to CAIx will not include the premine."
I still fail to realize how this "game" will help push the price of CAIx, I guess I am very stupid.
I've been reading this thread from the start and invested in CAI. Daily I've read post after post talking about what a great investment this would be, to "just wait! we'll be announcing things that will change crypto!". I've read how this team will be more innovative than any other. Then I started reading about how every.single.original.feature of the coin will be changed. But "just wait! this will be even better!". That CAI is gone, but "just wait! now there's CAIx!". And miners and investors should not worry, because CAIx will be even better!
Was the original design of this coin flawed? Is this new design somehow better? What benefit does this coin bring to crypto? What advances does it bring? To me, the team seems to be just running through every money making scheme imaginable as quickly as possible (with none of those schemes benefiting investors). I would like to know one - just one - good reason to even support this circus anymore.
Was the original design of this coin flawed? Is this new design somehow better? What benefit does this coin bring to crypto? What advances does it bring? To me, the team seems to be just running through every money making scheme imaginable as quickly as possible (with none of those schemes benefiting investors). I would like to know one - just one - good reason to even support this circus anymore.
Who's CAI will be withdrawn from exchanges exactly? And public address are public until they are not public, so ya, I would worry.
I'm sorry but your answers are vague and not reassuring, Do you have a link to the Dev's official statements at all, or is this just IRC comments reiterated? I am not sure what's going on as I'm sure others are not either. Hence the price drop.
I have said before the move to CAIx will not include the premine. The devs will only get 32k CAIx that's it. We have spent over 16 BTC so far on the game development alone. The final numbers of amount of CAI moving to CAIx will be published tomorrow, anyone will be able to calculate this to exact number once we announce the exact dates. I am not worried about Market price, that we have no control of at the moment.
When we move CAIx all our future projects will be community projects. The first app was to prove we are serious about what we announce and for that we spent the BTC ourselves. Now if you still have any concerns, please take our numbers we give tomorrow and bring out your calculators, and if anything seems suspicious to you feel free to ask, I will be here to answer.
Who's CAI will be withdrawn from exchanges exactly? And public address are public until they are not public, so ya, I would worry.
I'm sorry but your answers are vague and not reassuring, Do you have a link to the Dev's official statements at all, or is this just IRC comments reiterated? I am not sure what's going on as I'm sure others are not either. Hence the price drop.
Yes....... and they still have 560000 CAI.....
CAI will be withdrawn from exchanges, also i think everything will be transparent on public addresses, so i would not worry!
Yes....... and they still have 560000 CAI.....
If you read the OP it says
Clarification: the premine from CAI will be destroyed as we move into CAIx and reset to 2% of the total coin generated by the end of the transition period which we estimate to be 32k.
Yes....... and they still have 560000 CAI.....
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