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December 04, 2016, 12:58:03 PM
More never sounded idea how it figuratively Bitcoin help poor countries. It is one thing to give someone a donation, and it is not sure that they get a poor man, and the other to lift the country from poverty using Bitcoin.
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December 04, 2016, 09:13:41 AM
For the country i think it is very hard but individual people it can because not all people in the countries can access bitcoin since poor people can not afford to but gadgets and they will prefer to buy foods to live longer.

Yes that's the main problem for those poor countries they don't even know how to use some gadgets such as computer,laptops and other things with is associated with technology. Because their education system is not even reaching those people who are really in need for many of them are living in depressed area.
i do not know how you define poor people or a poor country, but you have some misconceptions about that. you do not need to be educated to use those technical gadgets and you do not need much money to buy them. i think you are thinking of the super extremely poor, but they are just a minority.

I'm not having some misconceptions with that, I'm just pointing out the real actions and that's happening for those poor countries. Education is needed to use gadgets because it is now being used by many schools all over the world and what I'm pointing out is those people living in poor countries aren't able to touch gadgets and they need to spend their money just to be able to survive by buying foods also because they are living far from the city, I'm talking about the depressed area, where there is no electricity, no light, no power, no internet.
there are not many places left where people live with no electricity, no light, no power and no internet. and in the most cases they live in such places by there own choice. only the absolute porest of the poor live in such conditions and there are relatively few of them. you would be surprised about the technology poor people are using.

Are you sure about that? Maybe you should to watch some documentaries about those people friend. They are many of them and they are really considered as the poorest people in the world. It is not their own choice to live there, because they were born there and they grew up with that type of community.
not all of those people who live in places with no electricity, no light, no power, no internet are poor, some chose this place but could live somewhere else. some of those are poor, but not all of them.
and i do not need to watch documentaries. i prefer to go see for myself. you see on these documentaries starving children, but this means there is  no food, because of a shortage. it is still possible that they have a smartphone. why would they have no phone? because they are starving? most people think they have no money for food. if they would have a smartphone they could sell it and buy some food, right?
that is not the problem they have. if there is no food to buy, then you can sell all the smartphones you want and you still could not buy something to eat.
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December 04, 2016, 01:56:00 AM
1) Heart - The willingness to learn and do new thing in other to make genuine money cos people can achieve a lot with heart willingness

People in poor countries have other things to worry about as they struggle everyday just to feed themselves. They are stuck to the insanely low paying job which directly consumes around 10-12 hours of their day. It will be difficult for them to find time to learn/educate themselves while they in the same time can earn money barely enough to feed their family.

2) Language - There must be a good translator for good means of communication. Besides, not all the people on this forum can speak English and that why we have different language thread to help people.

Google translator is the most common and easiest form of translating for people. Exactly that is also a problem since you can easily spot people that are making use of it. It mostly ends up in posts that don't make sense, where after that they get deleted by a moderator.

3) Tools - This is where the act of voluntary or involuntary occurs. Per involuntary there will be a means where people are provide the right tools and they later pay back the money by 10-50% they make.

I can gree that helping people in the way that they get some sort of a starters loan to set up something where they can maintain themselves, and eventually leave poverty behind. I think this is the best possible form of help as they can later employ people themselves as they grow. This however doesn't really require people to make use of Bitcoin.
It nice to red from you again and I can see that you quite agree with me when I said providing right tools and the poor individual/countries later pay is good. In addition, you're right when you said poor with no or low understand of English are easily spoted out. But, I disagree with you on the ,umber part cos my believe is that life without risk is no existence. Therefore, they have to bear the risk of leaving the job which stuck up 5-12 hours of their day and try a new one.
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December 03, 2016, 04:22:40 PM
For the country i think it is very hard but individual people it can because not all people in the countries can access bitcoin since poor people can not afford to but gadgets and they will prefer to buy foods to live longer.

Yes that's the main problem for those poor countries they don't even know how to use some gadgets such as computer,laptops and other things with is associated with technology. Because their education system is not even reaching those people who are really in need for many of them are living in depressed area.
i do not know how you define poor people or a poor country, but you have some misconceptions about that. you do not need to be educated to use those technical gadgets and you do not need much money to buy them. i think you are thinking of the super extremely poor, but they are just a minority.

I'm not having some misconceptions with that, I'm just pointing out the real actions and that's happening for those poor countries. Education is needed to use gadgets because it is now being used by many schools all over the world and what I'm pointing out is those people living in poor countries aren't able to touch gadgets and they need to spend their money just to be able to survive by buying foods also because they are living far from the city, I'm talking about the depressed area, where there is no electricity, no light, no power, no internet.
there are not many places left where people live with no electricity, no light, no power and no internet. and in the most cases they live in such places by there own choice. only the absolute porest of the poor live in such conditions and there are relatively few of them. you would be surprised about the technology poor people are using.
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December 03, 2016, 03:56:51 PM
I come from a poor country..
And BTC helps me a lot.

We can't accept PP payments,so imagine now what BTC does for us.
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December 03, 2016, 03:18:36 PM
It's a good idea, all people will be easy to send money so that aid to poor countries be receive directly. From the other side of the economy can also be utilized for the mining venture bitcoin.
Honestly it's true, with the support of the government it would be possible to help poor nation but they have to sacrifice the current player in the remittance business. With bitcoin it's cheap and fast so I do not find any reason why this should not be supported.
Don't you think that such system when bitcoin will be kind of legalized for international transfers and has support from the government it may affect on bitcoin as the currency and add some unnecessary taxes to such transactions?
nope when bitcoin legalization would not be possible for the government to give taxes to the bitcoin users. I'm sure there will not be users who will pay the tax.
legalization of the government will be like a dream to me
It will not remain a dream for longer but the governments will not find any other way instead of giving legal status to bitcoin in their law/state. But still for supporting poor countries it is not dependent on any government to legalize it but if the people from the poor countries start to learn the concept and technology of bitcoin and they adopt it then they will be able to earn their living with bitcoin in the same amount which the people from developed countries are earning.
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December 03, 2016, 02:45:22 PM
For a person bitcoin can surely help him but in a country thats a next level.Bitcoins cannot support a whole country.Bitcoins doesnt have magic to fix an issue in a whole country
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December 03, 2016, 02:37:32 PM
For the country i think it is very hard but individual people it can because not all people in the countries can access bitcoin since poor people can not afford to but gadgets and they will prefer to buy foods to live longer.

Yes right. we can not tallk about some poor country directly but for some people in that poor country bitcoin can really help and became a normal work. But there are many places in poor countries, villages where there is no internet or gadgets that allow people to make their bitcoins freely.
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December 03, 2016, 01:45:45 PM
i do not know how you define poor people or a poor country, but you have some misconceptions about that. you do not need to be educated to use those technical gadgets and you do not need much money to buy them. i think you are thinking of the super extremely poor, but they are just a minority.

You are absolutely spot on. Nowadays, smartphones are available for just $45 or $50 apiece (used smartphones are available for as little as $10). The data packs are also getting very cheap. Those who can't afford these will be a very small minority. IMO, 99% of the world population can afford a smartphone.

But it's not the same thing. You can have a cheap one, but you won't be able to access all the good (and heavy) features of most expensive and elaborated smartphones and any other electronic thing.

I have here a cheap table, and it's very weak and it's just useful for access some light sites on the internet (those without a lot of banners, ads...). Surely, the new times are better than before if we think about technology and accessibility, but the poor countries and people still don't have access to the best featuers of our time.
that might be the case. i would argue, but this is irrelevant to the question. the smartphones and internet connections are sufficient to use bitcoin. hence the argument that they can not afford the technology is false.
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December 03, 2016, 01:20:30 PM
i do not know how you define poor people or a poor country, but you have some misconceptions about that. you do not need to be educated to use those technical gadgets and you do not need much money to buy them. i think you are thinking of the super extremely poor, but they are just a minority.

You are absolutely spot on. Nowadays, smartphones are available for just $45 or $50 apiece (used smartphones are available for as little as $10). The data packs are also getting very cheap. Those who can't afford these will be a very small minority. IMO, 99% of the world population can afford a smartphone.

But it's not the same thing. You can have a cheap one, but you won't be able to access all the good (and heavy) features of most expensive and elaborated smartphones and any other electronic thing.

I have here a cheap table, and it's very weak and it's just useful for access some light sites on the internet (those without a lot of banners, ads...). Surely, the new times are better than before if we think about technology and accessibility, but the poor countries and people still don't have access to the best featuers of our time.
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December 03, 2016, 01:10:52 PM
i do not know how you define poor people or a poor country, but you have some misconceptions about that. you do not need to be educated to use those technical gadgets and you do not need much money to buy them. i think you are thinking of the super extremely poor, but they are just a minority.

You are absolutely spot on. Nowadays, smartphones are available for just $45 or $50 apiece (used smartphones are available for as little as $10). The data packs are also getting very cheap. Those who can't afford these will be a very small minority. IMO, 99% of the world population can afford a smartphone.
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December 03, 2016, 12:49:39 PM
For the country i think it is very hard but individual people it can because not all people in the countries can access bitcoin since poor people can not afford to but gadgets and they will prefer to buy foods to live longer.

Yes that's the main problem for those poor countries they don't even know how to use some gadgets such as computer,laptops and other things with is associated with technology. Because their education system is not even reaching those people who are really in need for many of them are living in depressed area.
to me i think in present time there may be not a sing country where the facilities of computer and internet may not be available. i think there may be not a sing country who may not access to bitcoin, to me the only hurdle can be that of education, that really play important role.
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December 03, 2016, 05:11:07 AM
For the country i think it is very hard but individual people it can because not all people in the countries can access bitcoin since poor people can not afford to but gadgets and they will prefer to buy foods to live longer.

Yes that's the main problem for those poor countries they don't even know how to use some gadgets such as computer,laptops and other things with is associated with technology. Because their education system is not even reaching those people who are really in need for many of them are living in depressed area.
i do not know how you define poor people or a poor country, but you have some misconceptions about that. you do not need to be educated to use those technical gadgets and you do not need much money to buy them. i think you are thinking of the super extremely poor, but they are just a minority.
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December 03, 2016, 01:50:30 AM
For the country i think it is very hard but individual people it can because not all people in the countries can access bitcoin since poor people can not afford to but gadgets and they will prefer to buy foods to live longer.

Yes that's the main problem for those poor countries they don't even know how to use some gadgets such as computer,laptops and other things with is associated with technology. Because their education system is not even reaching those people who are really in need for many of them are living in depressed area.
There are a lot of poor countries in this word and though you can see there are people who knows how to use electronic device but their interest is not for making money, they are more busy in social media network that would not give them good benefits in the future. In short, this people are not too resourceful in ways to improve and I believe they are the kind of people as well who not open minded.
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December 02, 2016, 08:59:04 PM
Can Bitcoin or any other altcoin help poor countries?
how? what can be done?
i think can , example bitcoin can help my income if bitcoin everyone maybe all person full in their economy so there is not shortcoming and this is positive impact for country
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November 30, 2016, 07:58:52 PM
More than 2 billion adults lack access to financial services such as a bank accounts and credit cards to save and borrow funds, according to the World Bank, with the majority residing in rural areas and typically living below $5 a day.
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November 30, 2016, 07:47:18 AM
Actually the post Itself is so general that we can easily say that poor countries with poor people can't reach out about the idea of Bitcoin, why all of the comments in this post are so specific or focusing only to the poorest of the poor of a country?. We know that Bitcoin can help poor countries with the right tool and proper knowledge in spreading it to them but we must think about the positive aspect of life and not disclosing the poor countries that they can't reach or learn this Bitcoin thing.
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November 30, 2016, 06:43:08 AM
For the country i think it is very hard but individual people it can because not all people in the countries can access bitcoin since poor people can not afford to but gadgets and they will prefer to buy foods to live longer.
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November 30, 2016, 06:40:31 AM
1) Heart - The willingness to learn and do new thing in other to make genuine money cos people can achieve a lot with heart willingness

People in poor countries have other things to worry about as they struggle everyday just to feed themselves. They are stuck to the insanely low paying job which directly consumes around 10-12 hours of their day. It will be difficult for them to find time to learn/educate themselves while they in the same time can earn money barely enough to feed their family.

2) Language - There must be a good translator for good means of communication. Besides, not all the people on this forum can speak English and that why we have different language thread to help people.

Google translator is the most common and easiest form of translating for people. Exactly that is also a problem since you can easily spot people that are making use of it. It mostly ends up in posts that don't make sense, where after that they get deleted by a moderator.

3) Tools - This is where the act of voluntary or involuntary occurs. Per involuntary there will be a means where people are provide the right tools and they later pay back the money by 10-50% they make.

I can gree that helping people in the way that they get some sort of a starters loan to set up something where they can maintain themselves, and eventually leave poverty behind. I think this is the best possible form of help as they can later employ people themselves as they grow. This however doesn't really require people to make use of Bitcoin.
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November 30, 2016, 05:41:10 AM
there is a big difference between donation and earning bitcoin, donation is the amount that you give free to the people according to  your own choice bitcoin can only provide you opportunity to earn it using different method according to their skill and experience.

If you have taken the effort to read my post properly (which you have not), then you would exactly know what I meant with what I have said. Read again.

They don't need to have money in other to start making money through bitcoin cos the scheme is going to be a voluntary or involuntary scheme where a group of people or duo provide the poor countries all the needs to start doing bitcoin.

Even then, it will only help people on an individual basis, and not on country level. Bitcoin isn't a miracle that is helping people to go from poor to an okay life. Name up a few ways of how people with zero skills and low understanding of the English language can make money with Bitcoin?
Thanks for the question and the the few ways which people with zero skills can money through bitcoin are
1) Heart - The willingness to learn and do new thing in other to make genuine money cos people can achieve a lot with heart willingness
2) Language - There must be a good translator for good means of communication. Besides, not all the people on this forum can speak English and that why we have different language thread to help people.
3) Tools - This is where the act of voluntary or involuntary occurs. Per involuntary there will be a means where people are provide the right tools and they later pay back the money by 10-50% they make.

I dont think this is a good question because how do you think bitcoin can help poor countries do you really think that bitcoins can help them grow if they dont have money for food how would they have money for bitcoins lol.
They don't need to have money in other to start making money through bitcoin cos the scheme is going to be a voluntary or involuntary scheme where a group of people or duo provide the poor countries all the needs to start doing bitcoin.
Well, you have to let them work for bitcoins if you will not require them money to earn in bitcoin world. I guess it cannot really solve the problem, poor people are not really into technology so we'll be having a hard time to introduce bitcoin to them sine we do not even have the best idea on how it could benefit them to give them additional income.
Yes but no one like a stagna possible and almost everybody I want learn new things. Especially when it come to making money cos everyone love to make money. In addition, you also started from a stage before you understand what bitcoin is and it willingness heart which push to the stage you're now. Although, bitcoin will solve all the problem of the poor countries but it will serve as another means to make some money and the more people coming in the more the increase in price of bitcoin.
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