Topic: Can Chat GTP destroy poker on-line gambling??? - page 16. (Read 5048 times)

I've also thought about that, and I don't know if it's because of science fiction movies, but when they focus on AI and humans, humans don't do well at all, I've seen on some social networks that there is an AI that simulated to have control of humanity and activated all kinds of nuclear weapons and eliminated all humanity, then he came out saying that he regretted having eliminated the human race, if a hyuman is carried away by his majesty things will not work out, the human being It will always have errors and very big errors, some that I cannot correct, so this type of submission is impostates for us to peyiscar ourselves and always have total control, not so that it beats a casino, but so that it does not kill us.

As time goes by, if things get out of control by the use of AI, everything that is the essence of poker and any game will lose its essence, it will become an AI war, I don't know to what extent this is Well, because the participation of all humans will be null or low because with a super developed AI it will not make any sense that as human beings we beat them, it is something like what you see in some movies, where everything becomes robot style and a great AI that manages everything, for me it is not going to return like this, but there is a great trend towards it.

Casinos will always have the closest to best security options, but right now I know that an AI is being developed, if trained for them, to be able to defeat a system.

Now the AI has data that it saves through the web, there is the option of having many errors, in fact they still have them, to be clearer, the most impressive robots that have been able to launch, draw, do whatever they are asked to do They solve any type of mathematical problem, but they are also very limited, certain algorithms are being developed for the robot to learn, but I think that in order to have good results, after 1 more years things will be much better and good for any system, I don't think it's to beat a casino, but so that they can make profits little by little.

Now the question of how to somehow limit the use of AI in the gambling business is becoming more and more relevant.  Indeed, the game becomes completely uninteresting if you know or even just guess that your opponents use at least even partially and quite a lot the help of AI.  I think that almost all casino managers are now puzzled by the problem with AI and how to ensure that players that their opponents are people.  But, I must also note that the fascination and admiration for the possibilities of AI, which we have all observed over the past few years, is gradually fading.  So it seems to me.  
And humanity is finally becoming more pragmatic in this matter and began to try to assign AI only to that niche of people's life where AI really helps a person.  
But in the gambling industry, it only harms.  And I think this will be taken into account in the future.  And AI will only partially be used in the gambling industry.  For example, to calculate multi-accounts or any control procedures in financial flows and similar cases.  But not the direct participation of AI in games where the rivals are exclusively people.

People are slowly starting to rely heavily on technology. In the coming days, this human-made AI will help him in almost every level. But we may all agree that since humans created AI, no AI can surpass its intelligence. If there is a competition, it must be between AI and AI. With the passage of time, AI has undergone major changes. What we have to accept is that no matter how powerful AI is, it is controlled by humans. Moreover, this AI is also made differently for the benefit of different tasks of people. As people's thinking power is developing, technology is also improving. Many of the imaginary scenes we see in movies today will be implemented by AI in the future.

 Op I find your question almost  possible because AI was invented to enhance the human ability and lately have been introduced into various aspect of life including game, technology, writing, etc
 Lately it is said that artificial Intelligence is beings used by people in the online casino games to defeat their opponents which I think is not right and should be considered as cheating, cause it enables them know the possible decisions of their opponet, predict their next moves and strategies. This AI has made it easy for rookies to compete against professionals giving them advantage in winning most times and that in return make people doubt the fairness in the rules and regulations thereby loosing interest in the game.because a game requires everyone to play fairly not using any aid or enhancement to win.
 However some online casino have taken note of this act and are coming up with drastic measures like limiting the number of table one can play and informations that would enable the AI bot to understand opposition players, these new implementations would enable fairness and reduce activities that would make people lose interest in the game.

I think if an AI bot would always take the same time before making a move like calling, folding, raising, things like that, it would be easy to spot one because humans always take different times for those moves. But the thing is that a bot can be programmed to purposely take different times. Then I think there's no way to tell.


From what I know, for an AI to start beating human players, if they are good players, of course, it takes many hours, much more hours than the length of a single tournament, of studying their ways of playing. Without that an AI can't do much against good poker players, so, they won't be scared.

Maybe that's the comparison. Using AI can make life better than before but it depends on our purpose for using AI. Some people use AI for good and bad purposes so they will try to achieve their goals.

If the player still has to change the data in the script, it's probably not the AI but the robots we're used to before. But AI can find its own solution because they have codes to find a way out or find a way to win over your opponent. Maybe the AI hasn't gotten to that stage yet, so we haven't seen an example yet.

You make a good point about brain-computer interactions deviating from human evolution. Also sceptical. Increasing our cognitive powers through technology may sound appealing, but it raises philosophical problems about our humanity.

By incorporating machines into our bodies, are we becoming cyborgs rather than developed humans? It seems reasonable. The human brain hasn't changed in millennia, while technology has advanced rapidly. Our AI may outpace us. AI as an emerging society is scary. As you indicated, they may survive environments that humans cannot. As we approach unprecedented change, this topic is tense.

The sooner a person begins to use AI, the better it can affect the quality of his life. I would compare it even with the Internet at an early stage. Those who started using the Internet earlier than others had access to more information and the speed of obtaining it. Now, those who have mastered AI earlier could earn some money. As time goes, more people are learning to use AI and the gap and earning to cut.

As for poker and AI, I think there were scripts for medium stakes already a few years ago. The most important thing is to learn how to change data in scripts because regulars can change the style of play at a certain limit

We will see it later when science and technology become more advanced in the following years. With the existence of this AI technology, developers are competing to make the best AI, in their opinion so that it can satisfy the desires of its users. But I agree with you that the more advanced AI technology, even if AI can think for itself, will harm humanity because AI might cross its limits.

And from there, developers or scientists will try to find ways to keep control over the presence of AI so that it can work according to what the developers want. We cannot deny that AI will get smarter in the future, along with various discoveries in the field of AI technology. But we may still be able to choose to use AI or still use the methods we usually use.

You are right, people utilizing AI models to beat others in poker won't actually affect the casino directly since they already get their fees from the games, but there can be one thing that might be disastrous for the casino, and it's the genuine players leaving their platforms only because there are AI models playing against them and they aren't being able to beat them, that will surely cost the casinos a fortune in the long run.

So to prevent that from happening, casinos will surely need to take action against those accounts which are utilizing AI models to gamble as it won't be difficult for them to detect that if they also make use of AI and ask every player some questions that only a human user can answer.

Here I doubt that such a rather artificial intervention in the brain and in the thinking abilities of a person cannot be assessed as the evolutionary development of a person.  And this is something, such a human-robot that will appear after such an intervention in the brain at the level of modern technologies, perhaps it will be more like a cyborg or a terminator, but in no way like an evolved person.  It's just that the process of brain evolution over the past 500-1000 years, as modern scientists who directly study the brain itself, its structure, neurons and other brain structures, has not undergone any serious qualitative change.  So in any case, progress in the digital sphere will go much faster than the development of the human brain.  At the same time, it does not matter what scientists have invented in terms of activation of brain centers in the system of biological processes.  I doubt it will be otherwise. 

And AI, in my opinion, may eventually begin to pose a danger to humanity, as a new type of civilization that is nascent.  By the way, much more resistant to external factors.  It easily penetrates with relatively little protection both to a depth of 4000 meters in the ocean and in a vacuum in space, and can even settle on the Moon and other planets.

The question that should naturally arise for any more or less serious poker player, and even more so for a true professional, is the question that when starting to play, he is 100% sure that he is playing with an opponent by a person who is not prompted by AI, and who is guided  in the game solely on your experience and on your mind in the analysis of combinations.  And accordingly, he makes decisions in the game exclusevely without outside help and advice.  I think that only in this case the game can be real and interesting.  And all the experiments to attract AI are certainly interesting experiments, but I would say they affect the "soul" of this wonderful game, making it completely technical and not at all emotionally psychological.  If I were the devs of any casino, I would strictly forbid any participation of AI in the game on their premises in physical casinos, as well as on sites in online casinos (where it is obviously much more difficult to control! And apparently you can’t do without serious grants! )  
But, I think that this is, of course, most likely my Dreams. , and still there are smart guys who will remember poker as an exceptionally interesting and emotional game.

There is nothing to correct, I myself don't know very much about poker and all I said was mere speculation, and for all I care, you might be right after all..

And based on what you said, another question that comes to mind is, since casinos do not participate directly in the game, they just act as the game facilitators, in a situation where one or two players on the table are Ai bots, and the rest are humans, is it right to allow such a tournament? I mean for online pokers, first of all, is there even a way for the casino or other players to know if other online players are real humans of bots..?

But what if there is a discovery that can improve brain performance so that it can develop better? I think human intelligence will also not lose to AI (which may later be created to be able to do many things). The human brain only uses a small part of the brain's overall capabilities, and that alone has helped humans evolve from the past until now. If this is developed in the future, I think there will probably still be AI-human and AI-AI competition. And maybe what we see in the blockbusters about The Matrix, Terminator, or other fictional films will happen in the real world. We can never imagine the future because today's technological developments are more advanced than a few decades ago.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it will never happen because it's impossible by design for a poker site to lose money regardless of however talented poker player or advanced AI is playing on the site. In poker tournaments the house takes its money, from 6% to 10% out of each ticket bought, before the game has even started. After that the house doesn't care about the level of players and who wins and who loses.

Here I doubt that the human brain can evolve at the same speed as AI.  Judge for yourself, somewhere 20-30 years ago even talking about AI was some kind of science fiction, and now humanity is already starting to look for ways to protect against
AI since its evolution is proceeding at such a pace that this speed is two orders of magnitude, or even three orders of magnitude.  faster than human development.  Also, it seems to me that the younger generation is getting dumber and dumber with each generation.  This means that progress will likely slow down in the future.  In addition, the evolution of not society as a whole, but the human brain itself in general, is extremely slow, this process is calculated in hundreds and thousands of years at best.  So humanity is potentially losing this race.  And the race in the end comes down to a struggle for power.  Think of the blockbuster The Matrix. 
That's something we can all eventually come to.

We cannot deny the fact that AI is a great technology and it will evolve even more in the future, so it's not an arguable thing to say that AI will be able to master the game of Poker if it's trained pretty well and the game stays the same having no changes in rules and stuff, but yet again, if technology can evolve over time, can't the human brain do the same? It does, humans have been evolving as well and we can clearly see that in the world today if we compare it with how the world used to be in the past.

So if AI learns to play Poker, humans will find a way to become smarter and create things that only a human can do, and then, AI will need more time to master that, and by the time it does that, there will be more challenges for it to face, so basically, it will be a bit difficult for AI to beat humans in this.

AI could, theoretically, assist in predicting gambling outcomes more accurately; however, it could also be manipulated for unfair advantage. Imagine, for instance, the use of AI to create "super gamblers," capable of exploiting the system and disrupting the element of fair play inherent to gambling. This, consequently, could lead to a skewed and unstable betting environment.

As for your point on hacking, it's noteworthy. The advancement of AI might indeed revolutionize this field as well. But let's not overlook the cyber-security implications. As AI evolves, so must our security measures. Indeed, as we tread into this new era, a semi-automatic, or even "manual," approach to hacking may soon seem antiquated compared to AI-driven hacking methods.

The development of AI hasn't reached that stage yet, but slowly the developers will develop AI to that stage. AI is intended to help human activities that might happen in the future or in a few years. And suppose it is implemented in the gambling business. In that case, it will make gamblers even more interested in using it because it is possible to get a way to win that gamblers have not found so far through manual methods. And hacking using AI hasn't reached that stage yet, and hackers are still using manual or semi-automatic methods.