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Quote from: SamReomo on June 08, 2023, 03:53:40 PM

Quote from: danadc on June 04, 2023, 06:57:57 PM

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I disagree with you in this matter because even if AI gets way smart than humans in poker but it won't be able to win the human players. Poker is a game that's played with different strategies by looking at ones cards, and the AI can't compete against humans in this particular game. A poker player views his/her cards first and if the cards are good enough then he/she continues calling the others blinds or raises the money to cause panic in hearts of other users, and if cards aren't powerful then the user just folds and let others play the game. An AI with all strategies still won't be able to compete or win humans, and they might try to raise in order to cause panic in the mind of the humans and on the other hand the human player has got good cards, the bot will lose a lot by doing that.

I think that AI can be competitive in future and might give huge panic to human players, but the professional players will still beat the AI particularly in poker. While in other casino games the AI could have upper hand most of the times and may win human players almost every turn.

Yes, Poker, in essence, is a game replete with strategies and psychology, not simply a procession of rote actions that an AI could seamlessly mimic.

Nonetheless, one must acknowledge that AI's capabilities have progressed dramatically over the years. Given enough time and computing power, an AI could theoretically account for each potential card outcome and player reaction, mapping out an optimal strategy at each point.

However, I do concur that the human elements of the game, such as bluffing, remain elusive to current AI technologies. Even so, should we entirely dismiss the potential for AI to adapt and evolve? I believe it's critical to maintain an open discourse about the issue. What might seem unfathomable today could become the norm tomorrow.

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Quote from: klidex on June 09, 2023, 11:07:22 AM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on June 08, 2023, 03:26:35 PM

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When AI is getting better and smarter so that many gamblers will use AI, then the casino owner and team will also ban the use of AI, they will even use the same intelligence tool to detect gamblers who use AI.
A strict ban with appropriate punishment can certainly have a deterrent effect on gamblers.
Believe me, casino owners don't want to experience losses, so they will do whatever it takes to minimize the number of losses.

I agree with you.
However, if Al's development is getting better and many gamblers take advantage of it, the casino team will not remain silent because they will definitely make steps to minimize the use of Al in gambling so that the casino team can still control some fraud or prohibited actions.

I believe the casino team is composed of smart and experienced people so if only to address the problem of using AI they can easily overcome it.

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Quote from: Shinpako09 on June 03, 2023, 08:43:24 PM

This one never crosses my mind. I ask chatgpt and the AI says "As an AI, I don't have personal experiences or the ability to play poker". Right now, I don't think AI has the capability to such an extent, not even in the next decade. AI does not have feelings or emotions, therefore can not perform bluff which is one of the most important poker skills. If it's AI vs AI, maybe it will depend on the program and won't be as exciting compared to when human plays.

This is the common mistakes gamblers now engage with the use of AI because they believe AI can accurately work and reason as woman's, this development is more effective in some areas in gambling and that doest not mean it's now applicable to every aspect of gambling, they are just systems built on advanced technology to make work easier amd for us to have a better experience when engaging in doing a task, not that they now have every tenacity of behaving like human do.

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Quote from: serjent05 on June 03, 2023, 06:20:42 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on June 02, 2023, 04:20:35 AM

Those who are scared of Chat GPT just admin that you suck at poker. It is 52 cards in deck, that is not a race, you can also take your time and calculate all the combinations and possibilities. Or you think Chat GPT can look through cards and cheat? Or it has more luck than a human? I just can imagine what advantage AI can have over human in a game where luck is one of the most important factors to win. There is only a disadvantage that AI has - machines can not bluff, they can only calculate.

I wonder how can we calculate the combination and possibilities when all we can see is jut the cards on the flops and card in our hands. There are too many variables to calculate the right combinations and possibilities.

Looking at the statistics, I don't know if we are able to calculate it manually while playing.

Regardless, I still think that chatbot has no capability to destroy poker on-online gambling because all these chatbot can do is just give a suggestion. Besides, card distribution is random and that makes the result undetectable by bots.

However good you are in calculating the probabilities, you have no advantage whatsoever if you start playing with unfamiliar to you people. But after playing many hours with them, especially if you are an AI, you have stats on them, you know when to call their bluff, when to fold, how much to raise to make then fold and stuff. Yes, luck is still involved and your win is never guaranteed, but you do have an advantage, and you'll be winning in the long run.

Online poker won't be destroyed, though. You can't force the same people to play with you all the time.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 09, 2023, 09:15:28 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on June 04, 2023, 05:49:15 AM

As a business owner, the casino will not let the gamblers win easily even though later the gamblers will use AI, which can provide greater opportunities to win. Kasion will also use AI to prevent gamblers from winning easily because if the casino doesn't update its system, the casino will lose a lot and will not be able to continue its business. So with AI, it doesn't stop casinos from finding innovations that can prevent them from winning to protect their business. And it seems that the development of the gambling business will be more advanced in the future.

Using AI on poker isn't really even new idea, as you have been able to do this with programs already. Ai is just an overkill calculator for counting odds. Because if we go with basics i don't think it's so hard to count your changes. Pros can do that in their head. And it's really hard for me to believe that AI could pick all the nuances pro players can as most of that isn't even happening in concious level.

Maybe it can and it's all about the level of prompts you give to it. But even then, it's not like casino would lose much for poker players having an edge when they are playing against each other anyway. Casino gets tournament participation fees no matter what.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 09, 2023, 09:15:28 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on June 04, 2023, 05:49:15 AM

We can agree on that, casino will find ways and they will continue to let gamblers to use whatever they want trying to take some edge, but more so with the house owners they will also bring something inside the system that can counter those AI and allow them to continue business, at some point they will embrace how the technology are bringing them, it's just a matter of time as we will see how both gamblers and casino owners will take AIs from this industry.

As a business owner, the casino will not let the gamblers win easily even though later the gamblers will use AI, which can provide greater opportunities to win. Kasion will also use AI to prevent gamblers from winning easily because if the casino doesn't update its system, the casino will lose a lot and will not be able to continue its business. So with AI, it doesn't stop casinos from finding innovations that can prevent them from winning to protect their business. And it seems that the development of the gambling business will be more advanced in the future.

Let's simplify it: gambling is a big industry, and they would not allow an AI that could potentially disrupt their business. As of now, there is no AI that has single-handedly destroyed a gambling business. If such an AI were to exist, the entire industry would be heavily impacted since many gambling businesses rely on similar systems for the games they offer to gamblers.

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 04, 2023, 05:49:15 AM

We can agree on that, casino will find ways and they will continue to let gamblers to use whatever they want trying to take some edge, but more so with the house owners they will also bring something inside the system that can counter those AI and allow them to continue business, at some point they will embrace how the technology are bringing them, it's just a matter of time as we will see how both gamblers and casino owners will take AIs from this industry.

As a business owner, the casino will not let the gamblers win easily even though later the gamblers will use AI, which can provide greater opportunities to win. Kasion will also use AI to prevent gamblers from winning easily because if the casino doesn't update its system, the casino will lose a lot and will not be able to continue its business. So with AI, it doesn't stop casinos from finding innovations that can prevent them from winning to protect their business. And it seems that the development of the gambling business will be more advanced in the future.

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Quote from: klidex on June 09, 2023, 11:07:22 AM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on June 08, 2023, 03:26:35 PM

Yes, in fact , if I were the owner of an online casino, I would already be taking forecasts, because this AI thing is going to increase, I know that right now there are many errors, it's like everything else , this reminds me of the history of computers, they began With the Mark , now they are going in a very high technology where the processors are an impressive thing , however we as we are in all this way we must understand that as time goes on this is improving , and each time the systems are focusing towards continuous improvement , for this reason I think that AI in the future will set the standard in everything , Especially in Casino bets.

When AI is getting better and smarter so that many gamblers will use AI, then the casino owner and team will also ban the use of AI, they will even use the same intelligence tool to detect gamblers who use AI.
A strict ban with appropriate punishment can certainly have a deterrent effect on gamblers.
Believe me, casino owners don't want to experience losses, so they will do whatever it takes to minimize the number of losses.

It is true that everyone wants to win and earn more. A gambler is trying how he can earn better while a casino owner is trying how he can earn more money. Both will continue to strive. If any AI tool is used where gamblers can take advantage then the casino owner will never allow it. It is never possible. Casinos or gambling establishments would not survive if AI could be used to increase the winnings of gamblers. Casino gambling concerned team can certainly ban the use of AI if it can actually against their policy.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on June 08, 2023, 03:26:35 PM

Yes, in fact , if I were the owner of an online casino, I would already be taking forecasts, because this AI thing is going to increase, I know that right now there are many errors, it's like everything else , this reminds me of the history of computers, they began With the Mark , now they are going in a very high technology where the processors are an impressive thing , however we as we are in all this way we must understand that as time goes on this is improving , and each time the systems are focusing towards continuous improvement , for this reason I think that AI in the future will set the standard in everything , Especially in Casino bets.

When AI is getting better and smarter so that many gamblers will use AI, then the casino owner and team will also ban the use of AI, they will even use the same intelligence tool to detect gamblers who use AI.
A strict ban with appropriate punishment can certainly have a deterrent effect on gamblers.
Believe me, casino owners don't want to experience losses, so they will do whatever it takes to minimize the number of losses.

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Quote from: SamReomo on June 08, 2023, 03:53:40 PM

Quote from: danadc on June 04, 2023, 06:57:57 PM

It is a matter of time before they can implement an AI that beats all human poker Players, it is very logical, the AI saves all the possible plays, and the best ones to have the Perfect game, it is very Difficult to fight against a robot that it has so much and also currency which is the best move to win, while one as a human being can be wrong in each play, that is the difference, I See that as an advantage over the human , I do not see something that is fair , it is a fight not very loyal , all the study that we could give us would be of no use.

I disagree with you in this matter because even if AI gets way smart than humans in poker but it won't be able to win the human players. Poker is a game that's played with different strategies by looking at ones cards, and the AI can't compete against humans in this particular game. A poker player views his/her cards first and if the cards are good enough then he/she continues calling the others blinds or raises the money to cause panic in hearts of other users, and if cards aren't powerful then the user just folds and let others play the game. An AI with all strategies still won't be able to compete or win humans, and they might try to raise in order to cause panic in the mind of the humans and on the other hand the human player has got good cards, the bot will lose a lot by doing that.

I think that AI can be competitive in future and might give huge panic to human players, but the professional players will still beat the AI particularly in poker. While in other casino games the AI could have upper hand most of the times and may win human players almost every turn.

Emotions and feelings are something that cannot be programmed or developed by anyone except the one who created the whole universe, it is not something that humans can do in the first place, and that will probably be the only department where AI cannot beat a human, a human can read faces, understand feelings, catch emotions of the person in front of them, and an AI can do none of that no matter how good it is.

So, an AI model playing poker among humans will be totally lost even if it has been programmed so well to deal with the cards and everything, it will still get confused in the long run because humans will use their brains and emotions and everything which the AI cannot detect.

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Quote from: so98nn on May 09, 2023, 02:49:03 PM

That's definitely not a possibility real soon. There are many glitches in the language and the way ChatGPT works. Most of the time its answers are based on the open source texts available throughout the internet. Yes, it can access billions of texts, scramble them, rearrange, phrase them, correct and construct complex sentences, and give a fruitful output for the question that we asked.

I highly doubt that such AI would be capable of playing the poker game. Yes AI is very advanced tech right now, but you need to teach the AI, and its logic is formulated based on those learnings.

ChatGPT is not specific to playing games. There is just zero chance it may even be able to think stuff about it.

Your opinion is very valid and more than I feel that you have used it, I cannot say much because I have not interacted with the AI, but you are one of the few people who are clear in its scope, some see the AI as the Holy Grail, and despite I know that I have not interacted, I know that it has a long way to go, because this is like when the Mark1 came out, everyone was amazed at what it could do, it was just 1 prototype of what is now something very normal, minituaired, and this is an analogy simple of what AI can represent today that what it will be in 3-4-5 to 10 years that will be something impressive.

Yeah right, the improvement will continue and who knows if what AI can bring after 5-10 years, we really don't know if how accurate and how it can be developed. But one thing is also for sure that in the even that AI will have a better understanding of how the possible outcome, gambling owners will also adjust and will do the best counter to make sure that they still have the advantage.

In the sense of pushing things to gambling, adjustments from the other side will need to anticipate, it's business and they will do everything to protect the business.

Quite the savvy outlook, partner, and you've lassoed quite the nugget of wisdom there, especially with the hat tip to the good ol' Mark1. Indeed, AI stands at the break of dawn, not too different from where the mighty computers found themselves a few moons ago.

Nevertheless, let's not misplace this crucial caveat: despite AI still cutting its teeth, it holds a future riddled with potential, brighter than a coin at the end of a rainbow! Picture, if you will, an epoch where AI's data digestion and comprehension skills are so honed, it's like a crystal ball for market trends, rendering it a veritable golden goose for our trader and investor brethren.

However, it would be quite the folly to lose sight of this – as our dear AI evolves into a strapping entity, the tactics employed by casinos and their online counterparts aren't going to be left in the dust. Oh no, it's an arms race, my friend, a never-ending chase of cat and mouse. No stone will be left unturned in their pursuit of leveraging the same AI tech to maintain their house edge. Therefore, while we envisage the AI landscape undergoing massive upgrades, one ought to keep an eye out for the double-edged implications of its progress.

It is a fact that AI will take on a lot of prominence in the future, honestly I would like an AI to take control of a country and not a politician, because an AI is incorruptible, while a human being is corruptible and with a lot of easily, on the other hand, the AIs are impartial, and this is what they are looking for, I think that in the future an AI can dominate the whole world if they want to, the bad thing is that the AI can take control, of everything, that is As a case where a simulation of an AI was made when it took control of the world, that after everything that was done the AI asked for forgiveness, because in that fictitious world the AI ended all humanity.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on June 02, 2023, 04:20:35 AM

Those who are scared of Chat GPT just admin that you suck at poker. It is 52 cards in deck, that is not a race, you can also take your time and calculate all the combinations and possibilities. Or you think Chat GPT can look through cards and cheat? Or it has more luck than a human? I just can imagine what advantage AI can have over human in a game where luck is one of the most important factors to win. There is only a disadvantage that AI has - machines can not bluff, they can only calculate.

... Besides, card distribution is random and that makes the result undetectable by bots.

I think that some newbies in gambling or people who are not sure how Artificial intelligence works may be confusing technology with magic. In the end, it does not matter how intelligent a machine or a human being is, the random nature of numbers in gambling are supposed to be the factor which would negate any advantage that intelligence can offer to the player.

If someone is very clever and skillful with the mind, that person may be intended to be playing chess, instead rolling dices. It is well known that one can gain some fame and fortune by beating the best chess players. Tongue

When it comes to gambling then randomness is something that cant really be influenced specially on gambling games where given out numbers or results wouldnt really be something that could really be altered or just as i said it wont be affected out no matter on how intelligent you are which its definitely true. People does have that wrong perception towards AI which they've been thinking that everything could really be able to solve out or would really be giving that good result or would really be positive. Therefore, it is really that safe to say or assume out that it wont really be that much relevant if we do speak
about assurance whether it does work or not. Using up your own common sense then you could be able to spot out when it comes to its relevance on gambling field or stuff.

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Quote from: danadc on June 04, 2023, 06:57:57 PM

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Quote from: Fredomago on May 31, 2023, 10:52:12 AM

In following that logic, we never know how casino will react once AI was being implemented or being used I see your point that they might restrict or possible to ban you if they are not willing to embrace such a system being used to their house, knowing how casino making money out from the gamblers, they will not just allow anyone to have that edge in winning against them.

Just an opinion though, as we don't know if what and how casino will adopt in case AI knowledge will be used.

Of course, the casino will not allow gamblers always to win more than the casino, so the casino might use AI to hold back the gamblers' wins. But I don't know, at least I agree with you in that we don't know if and how the casino will act in the future because it may not have happened right now or it has. What is clear, this will be even more interesting to follow, especially if we can try to use AI to gamble to see the casino's reaction. Maybe for a while, casinos will ban the use of AI until the casinos can find a way to win from gamblers who use AI.

We can agree on that, casino will find ways and they will continue to let gamblers to use whatever they want trying to take some edge, but more so with the house owners they will also bring something inside the system that can counter those AI and allow them to continue business, at some point they will embrace how the technology are bringing them, it's just a matter of time as we will see how both gamblers and casino owners will take AIs from this industry.

It is a matter of time before they can implement an AI that beats all human poker Players, it is very logical, the AI saves all the possible plays, and the best ones to have the Perfect game, it is very Difficult to fight against a robot that it has so much and also currency which is the best move to win, while one as a human being can be wrong in each play, that is the difference, I See that as an advantage over the human , I do not see something that is fair , it is a fight not very loyal , all the study that we could give us would be of no use.

I disagree with you in this matter because even if AI gets way smart than humans in poker but it won't be able to win the human players. Poker is a game that's played with different strategies by looking at ones cards, and the AI can't compete against humans in this particular game. A poker player views his/her cards first and if the cards are good enough then he/she continues calling the others blinds or raises the money to cause panic in hearts of other users, and if cards aren't powerful then the user just folds and let others play the game. An AI with all strategies still won't be able to compete or win humans, and they might try to raise in order to cause panic in the mind of the humans and on the other hand the human player has got good cards, the bot will lose a lot by doing that.

I think that AI can be competitive in future and might give huge panic to human players, but the professional players will still beat the AI particularly in poker. While in other casino games the AI could have upper hand most of the times and may win human players almost every turn.

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Quote from: Fredomago on May 26, 2023, 05:24:56 AM

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Quote from: so98nn on May 09, 2023, 02:49:03 PM

That's definitely not a possibility real soon. There are many glitches in the language and the way ChatGPT works. Most of the time its answers are based on the open source texts available throughout the internet. Yes, it can access billions of texts, scramble them, rearrange, phrase them, correct and construct complex sentences, and give a fruitful output for the question that we asked.

I highly doubt that such AI would be capable of playing the poker game. Yes AI is very advanced tech right now, but you need to teach the AI, and its logic is formulated based on those learnings.

ChatGPT is not specific to playing games. There is just zero chance it may even be able to think stuff about it.

Your opinion is very valid and more than I feel that you have used it, I cannot say much because I have not interacted with the AI, but you are one of the few people who are clear in its scope, some see the AI as the Holy Grail, and despite I know that I have not interacted, I know that it has a long way to go, because this is like when the Mark1 came out, everyone was amazed at what it could do, it was just 1 prototype of what is now something very normal, minituaired, and this is an analogy simple of what AI can represent today that what it will be in 3-4-5 to 10 years that will be something impressive.

Yeah right, the improvement will continue and who knows if what AI can bring after 5-10 years, we really don't know if how accurate and how it can be developed. But one thing is also for sure that in the even that AI will have a better understanding of how the possible outcome, gambling owners will also adjust and will do the best counter to make sure that they still have the advantage.

In the sense of pushing things to gambling, adjustments from the other side will need to anticipate, it's business and they will do everything to protect the business.

Yes, in fact , if I were the owner of an online casino, I would already be taking forecasts, because this AI thing is going to increase, I know that right now there are many errors, it's like everything else , this reminds me of the history of computers, they began With the Mark , now they are going in a very high technology where the processors are an impressive thing , however we as we are in all this way we must understand that as time goes on this is improving , and each time the systems are focusing towards continuous improvement , for this reason I think that AI in the future will set the standard in everything , Especially in Casino bets.

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 04, 2023, 05:49:15 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 02, 2023, 08:44:26 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on May 31, 2023, 10:52:12 AM

In following that logic, we never know how casino will react once AI was being implemented or being used I see your point that they might restrict or possible to ban you if they are not willing to embrace such a system being used to their house, knowing how casino making money out from the gamblers, they will not just allow anyone to have that edge in winning against them.

Just an opinion though, as we don't know if what and how casino will adopt in case AI knowledge will be used.

Of course, the casino will not allow gamblers always to win more than the casino, so the casino might use AI to hold back the gamblers' wins. But I don't know, at least I agree with you in that we don't know if and how the casino will act in the future because it may not have happened right now or it has. What is clear, this will be even more interesting to follow, especially if we can try to use AI to gamble to see the casino's reaction. Maybe for a while, casinos will ban the use of AI until the casinos can find a way to win from gamblers who use AI.

We can agree on that, casino will find ways and they will continue to let gamblers to use whatever they want trying to take some edge, but more so with the house owners they will also bring something inside the system that can counter those AI and allow them to continue business, at some point they will embrace how the technology are bringing them, it's just a matter of time as we will see how both gamblers and casino owners will take AIs from this industry.

It is a matter of time before they can implement an AI that beats all human poker Players, it is very logical, the AI saves all the possible plays, and the best ones to have the Perfect game, it is very Difficult to fight against a robot that it has so much and also currency which is the best move to win, while one as a human being can be wrong in each play, that is the difference, I See that as an advantage over the human , I do not see something that is fair , it is a fight not very loyal , all the study that we could give us would be of no use.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on June 02, 2023, 04:20:35 AM

Those who are scared of Chat GPT just admin that you suck at poker. It is 52 cards in deck, that is not a race, you can also take your time and calculate all the combinations and possibilities. Or you think Chat GPT can look through cards and cheat? Or it has more luck than a human? I just can imagine what advantage AI can have over human in a game where luck is one of the most important factors to win. There is only a disadvantage that AI has - machines can not bluff, they can only calculate.

The thing with online poker is that you don't really have time to think in depth about a given hand, because you are not only sitting at one table. Online poker can't be compared with the casual poker play we have friday nights with friends. When playing at a physical poker table we observe how the others play and there only limited hands per hour being played. As for online poker, there a lot of more hands played per hour and there is always a clock on us. When we play 2-6 tables at the same time we need to make our decision very quickly, that is also why there are fixed charts for almost any type of poker game, where you know exactly when to raise and when to fold. It helps a lot to follow a standardised strategy to increase our earnings per hour. Which is going to be the main advantage that ChatGPT is going to bring to the equation, the bot has no problems to run 10 or even 20 tables at the same time. Whereas humans can't keep such numbers up. Also humans are going to get tired eventually and ChatGPT can run 24/7. This could lead to a big problem if there are too many bots out there compared to human players.

Our digital companion Chat GPT is altering online poker, especially with artificial intelligence. But wait, everybody! Although these AI geniuses perform better in speed, accuracy, and consistency, we humans still have some tricks in our sleeves. Poker is a social drama, as you can see. Strategy, probability, and human aspect are mixed with psychology, gut feeling, and the human touch. AI's number-crunching skills couldn't handle the human aspect, the subtle signals and emotions that can make or break a poker game.

AI in online poker has also stirred more controversy. Powerful AIs could destroy the game for humans. As we board this AI-powered gaming train, we must keep our attention on the game. To ensure everyone gets along, strike a balance of measures. In online poker, we might separate computer and human players. Thus, everyone can enjoy the game in their favorite manner.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 02, 2023, 08:44:26 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on May 31, 2023, 10:52:12 AM

In following that logic, we never know how casino will react once AI was being implemented or being used I see your point that they might restrict or possible to ban you if they are not willing to embrace such a system being used to their house, knowing how casino making money out from the gamblers, they will not just allow anyone to have that edge in winning against them.

Just an opinion though, as we don't know if what and how casino will adopt in case AI knowledge will be used.

Of course, the casino will not allow gamblers always to win more than the casino, so the casino might use AI to hold back the gamblers' wins. But I don't know, at least I agree with you in that we don't know if and how the casino will act in the future because it may not have happened right now or it has. What is clear, this will be even more interesting to follow, especially if we can try to use AI to gamble to see the casino's reaction. Maybe for a while, casinos will ban the use of AI until the casinos can find a way to win from gamblers who use AI.

We can agree on that, casino will find ways and they will continue to let gamblers to use whatever they want trying to take some edge, but more so with the house owners they will also bring something inside the system that can counter those AI and allow them to continue business, at some point they will embrace how the technology are bringing them, it's just a matter of time as we will see how both gamblers and casino owners will take AIs from this industry.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on June 02, 2023, 04:20:35 AM

Those who are scared of Chat GPT just admin that you suck at poker. It is 52 cards in deck, that is not a race, you can also take your time and calculate all the combinations and possibilities. Or you think Chat GPT can look through cards and cheat? Or it has more luck than a human? I just can imagine what advantage AI can have over human in a game where luck is one of the most important factors to win. There is only a disadvantage that AI has - machines can not bluff, they can only calculate.

The thing with online poker is that you don't really have time to think in depth about a given hand, because you are not only sitting at one table. Online poker can't be compared with the casual poker play we have friday nights with friends. When playing at a physical poker table we observe how the others play and there only limited hands per hour being played. As for online poker, there a lot of more hands played per hour and there is always a clock on us. When we play 2-6 tables at the same time we need to make our decision very quickly, that is also why there are fixed charts for almost any type of poker game, where you know exactly when to raise and when to fold. It helps a lot to follow a standardised strategy to increase our earnings per hour. Which is going to be the main advantage that ChatGPT is going to bring to the equation, the bot has no problems to run 10 or even 20 tables at the same time. Whereas humans can't keep such numbers up. Also humans are going to get tired eventually and ChatGPT can run 24/7. This could lead to a big problem if there are too many bots out there compared to human players.

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This one never crosses my mind. I ask chatgpt and the AI says "As an AI, I don't have personal experiences or the ability to play poker". Right now, I don't think AI has the capability to such an extent, not even in the next decade. AI does not have feelings or emotions, therefore can not perform bluff which is one of the most important poker skills. If it's AI vs AI, maybe it will depend on the program and won't be as exciting compared to when human plays.

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Quote from: serjent05 on June 03, 2023, 06:20:42 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on June 02, 2023, 04:20:35 AM

Those who are scared of Chat GPT just admin that you suck at poker. It is 52 cards in deck, that is not a race, you can also take your time and calculate all the combinations and possibilities. Or you think Chat GPT can look through cards and cheat? Or it has more luck than a human? I just can imagine what advantage AI can have over human in a game where luck is one of the most important factors to win. There is only a disadvantage that AI has - machines can not bluff, they can only calculate.

... Besides, card distribution is random and that makes the result undetectable by bots.

I think that some newbies in gambling or people who are not sure how Artificial intelligence works may be confusing technology with magic. In the end, it does not matter how intelligent a machine or a human being is, the random nature of numbers in gambling are supposed to be the factor which would negate any advantage that intelligence can offer to the player.

If someone is very clever and skillful with the mind, that person may be intended to be playing chess, instead rolling dices. It is well known that one can gain some fame and fortune by beating the best chess players. Tongue

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