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Quote from: bajing on September 27, 2017, 07:14:30 AM

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

no you cant for sure mate,mathematical is different on luck imagine how many choices of numbers to hit a win in roulette and now youre saying that using math can help you make it?its a big NO..in some point theres a science in estimation but this wasnt enough to bring winnings for you.trust me it wont

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Quote from: Rinsend on March 04, 2018, 09:50:07 AM

No, math will not help you win in gambling. Because in gambling, luck that plays a big role, if any game that requires us to think using strategy, we do not need math there, we think is how to read the situation, all conditional. No need to complicate yourself by thinking about math when gambling, it will not work and just throw away your energy alone.

I do not think so, math can really help us win, especially in some types of gambling but if we use math effectively, the mathematical ability we will need is very high, we need to calculate things that other people can not calculate and this is not simple. Gambling does not always depend on luck completely, there are always some exceptions, however, what I say is about gambling in real life, on the internet, that's almost impossible. And players that use math are rare because they have the same psychology as you

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No, math will not help you win in gambling. Because in gambling, luck that plays a big role, if any game that requires us to think using strategy, we do not need math there, we think is how to read the situation, all conditional. No need to complicate yourself by thinking about math when gambling, it will not work and just throw away your energy alone.

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Quote from: DPrillio on February 27, 2018, 05:20:28 PM

Quote from: okissabam on February 27, 2018, 04:43:34 PM

Math may be able to aid you to solve some missing pieces in the puzzle while playing roulette but I don't think it really can help you that much especially in gambling. It is always unpredictable and for me it is always pure luck to those who constantly win in this game. I've tried a couple of times and I'm always unlucky, and I did try to do math with playing roulette but still doesn't work. It would always be your fundamental analysis of the game that'll make you win, that's for sure.

Well, sometimes it can help but it depends upon the kind of game or gambling, mathematical skills can be applied in playing cards like tong-its and other card related game because you can calculate the cards distribution and patterns. But in other games specially those computer generated is more likely hard to predict and usually all the opportunity of winning is only by the luck.

And sometimes thinking logically can help you. Maybe being good at math can help you at least as for sure your mind is working and thinking fast but sometimes luck unfavorable to you and even you try it so hard it just feels useless.
That's why I sometimes think that gambling isn't always about skills but you should be rather in good mood like there's nothing bothering you so you can play peacefully and of course with a lot of luck.

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Quote from: okissabam on February 27, 2018, 04:43:34 PM

Math may be able to aid you to solve some missing pieces in the puzzle while playing roulette but I don't think it really can help you that much especially in gambling. It is always unpredictable and for me it is always pure luck to those who constantly win in this game. I've tried a couple of times and I'm always unlucky, and I did try to do math with playing roulette but still doesn't work. It would always be your fundamental analysis of the game that'll make you win, that's for sure.

Math does not play much part in gambling but still if you are a mathematician then it is helpful for you. You can decide how to gamble with and in case of Win, how much to keep aside and play with rest. Even in case of loss, you can calculate small investments which may yield to slow profits to cover the loss. All in all, if you have any sort of knowledge you can apply that in gambling in one way or the other.

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Everything is luck man, no math no shit Grin

Most of them depends upon your luck and only lucky people get those jackpot. Few games do exists where you require a good experience and skills to win those gambling else like roulette, computer slot machines etc are the luck based games.

There's no math formula could make you always win steadily, the only reliable math you can use as reference in gambling are when a lot of math experts says that no chance for you to win against the house, the odds created to beat players in the long run , that's how the real math work.

The house is also doing mathematics, I've even heard some people who got banned in casino by doing the card counting so they won't let a strategy go on the loose and take all their money. That club is always unfair to the players.

Quote from: llyfee4u on January 14, 2018, 07:53:30 PM

I highly doubt it. Perhaps maths could help in calculating and understanding the different permutations and odds of winning but ultimately wining in gambling is mostly dependent on luck. Even the most strategic minded gamblers still can’t always win against the house despite their strategy. If this was to be the case, many would have made massive wins in casinos based on their knowledge or expertise in maths.

Maths can help and there is no denying that, but there is no person that can play and solve for all those possibilities, well, except for card counting which you need some serious skills there too. But it's true that if the casino will be beaten by just this then there won't be any casinos anymore. Like banks it is regulated and they are implying rules to change the game.

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When it says maths can help a player to win, it does not assume that maths is going to eliminate the house edge or manipulate the system, rather the whole essence of bringing maths in, is to create some leeway for attaining success in spite of the odds to the contrary. With maths and games like dice and roulette, a player can know before hand, the limits their balance can support and even their chance of landing a win well before the dice/ball rolls, thus creating room for adjustments to be made.

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Quote from: okissabam on February 27, 2018, 04:43:34 PM

Math may be able to aid you to solve some missing pieces in the puzzle while playing roulette but I don't think it really can help you that much especially in gambling. It is always unpredictable and for me it is always pure luck to those who constantly win in this game. I've tried a couple of times and I'm always unlucky, and I did try to do math with playing roulette but still doesn't work. It would always be your fundamental analysis of the game that'll make you win, that's for sure.

Well, sometimes it can help but it depends upon the kind of game or gambling, mathematical skills can be applied in playing cards like tong-its and other card related game because you can calculate the cards distribution and patterns. But in other games specially those computer generated is more likely hard to predict and usually all the opportunity of winning is only by the luck.

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Math may be able to aid you to solve some missing pieces in the puzzle while playing roulette but I don't think it really can help you that much especially in gambling. It is always unpredictable and for me it is always pure luck to those who constantly win in this game. I've tried a couple of times and I'm always unlucky, and I did try to do math with playing roulette but still doesn't work. It would always be your fundamental analysis of the game that'll make you win, that's for sure.

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Quote from: BTCeminjas on February 27, 2018, 02:04:04 PM

No used calculator in gambling, haha posted above that calculator was used maybe in loses not on gambling.

Maybe he is calculating the risk and not the losses. Grin

Using calculator while gambling is something that is quite weird when you this on real gambling houses but if you are at home that's fine, no one can see you.
Math will increase your logic level understanding and when it comes to calculated risk, you know how to take it.

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Quote from: BTCeminjas on February 27, 2018, 02:04:04 PM

No used calculator in gambling, haha posted above that calculator was used maybe in loses not on gambling.
Well, one factor that you may win in gambling strategy and fundamental analysis you may apply not the calculator because that is simple to estimate. Playing dice is very simple gambling games even though you have a blindfold you have still a chance to win.

Not in dice and slot gambling or some other casino gambling, but in sports gambling it is too much important to have some calculation, which can help you in winning the bet, you need to do calculation for score and should take take a step according to your calculation, here your luck is important but you must also have to do some calculation.

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No used calculator in gambling, haha posted above that calculator was used maybe in loses not on gambling.
Well, one factor that you may win in gambling strategy and fundamental analysis you may apply not the calculator because that is simple to estimate. Playing dice is very simple gambling games even though you have a blindfold you have still a chance to win.

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Quote from: bajing on September 27, 2017, 07:14:30 AM

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

No, not at all. Can't think on any circumstances in gambling where understanding math will give you an advantage. Besides, in some games like dice, the odds and house edge are clear and understanding math would do nothing. Perhaps the one thing math would do is steer us away from gambling by helping us realize how unfair a game in a gambling game (house edge).

If you analyze it carefully you will see that the house edge is in their favor and that would mean we have lesser chance of winning.
Not that we do not have a chance because we also win sometimes if we are constantly gambling, but notice that you will still gonna end up losing in the long run.

Well obviously the house edge is in the house's favor? It's not like they are trying to hide that fact Cheesy

.. But simply stating that in the long run you'll end up losing, that does not have to be true. Some people could lose more and some people could lose less.. Some could hit the jackpot and end up with a good win. That's why it's called gambling.

The game like roulette is one of the hardest game to win and this kind of games are highly in the favour of gambling sites not for the players.But maths in gambling may help in winning but it will definetely help you in caluculating how much you lost in the games. Grin

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Quote from: bajing on September 27, 2017, 07:14:30 AM

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

I believe that mathematics is able to help me and us in gambling like examples of permutations. You can know that the game flow and down fall and also you can measure the game on what or where its stupid time or aces of numbers mostly the card games so that i can preffer that math can also used as tactics and math is also can be able to used in gamblings.

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Meh.

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Quote from: bajing on September 27, 2017, 07:14:30 AM

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

No, not at all. Can't think on any circumstances in gambling where understanding math will give you an advantage. Besides, in some games like dice, the odds and house edge are clear and understanding math would do nothing. Perhaps the one thing math would do is steer us away from gambling by helping us realize how unfair a game in a gambling game (house edge).

If you analyze it carefully you will see that the house edge is in their favor and that would mean we have lesser chance of winning.
Not that we do not have a chance because we also win sometimes if we are constantly gambling, but notice that you will still gonna end up losing in the long run.

Well obviously the house edge is in the house's favor? It's not like they are trying to hide that fact Cheesy

.. But simply stating that in the long run you'll end up losing, that does not have to be true. Some people could lose more and some people could lose less.. Some could hit the jackpot and end up with a good win. That's why it's called gambling.

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Quote from: bajing on September 27, 2017, 07:14:30 AM

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

No, not at all. Can't think on any circumstances in gambling where understanding math will give you an advantage. Besides, in some games like dice, the odds and house edge are clear and understanding math would do nothing. Perhaps the one thing math would do is steer us away from gambling by helping us realize how unfair a game in a gambling game (house edge).

If you analyze it carefully you will see that the house edge is in their favor and that would mean we have lesser chance of winning.
Not that we do not have a chance because we also win sometimes if we are constantly gambling, but notice that you will still gonna end up losing in the long run.

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Quote from: usekevin on February 25, 2018, 03:07:37 PM

We can't say 100% on the both one.50% it may depend on the math and if you calculate and make some sports betting such as cricket game .In some gambling even though you calculate 100% ,it won't work.
My answer for this such things is it will be on Neutral.
Choose the gambling as a game to avoid of such things.

calculation cannot give you 100% result in any formate or gambling games, in sports gambling even if you have good calculation and experience still you need to have good luck, in sports gambling some chances are there to use your previous experience and calculation which can help you to make money but still not 100% sure.

It's obvious that 100% is not attainable with any known system, but that does not say anything about the fact that 100% result is nowhere necessary to be able to come off profitable in the market. Any player that is well able to achieve as from 60% success rate is good to end up in profit. In the light of this, I am compelled to ask, for what does most gambling sites disallow some games from contributing to the wager requirements for most of the bonuses they offer?

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Quote from: usekevin on February 25, 2018, 03:07:37 PM

We can't say 100% on the both one.50% it may depend on the math and if you calculate and make some sports betting such as cricket game .In some gambling even though you calculate 100% ,it won't work.
My answer for this such things is it will be on Neutral.
Choose the gambling as a game to avoid of such things.

calculation cannot give you 100% result in any formate or gambling games, in sports gambling even if you have good calculation and experience still you need to have good luck, in sports gambling some chances are there to use your previous experience and calculation which can help you to make money but still not 100% sure.

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We can't say 100% on the both one.50% it may depend on the math and if you calculate and make some sports betting such as cricket game .In some gambling even though you calculate 100% ,it won't work.
My answer for this such things is it will be on Neutral.
Choose the gambling as a game to avoid of such things.

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Quote from: bajing on September 27, 2017, 07:14:30 AM

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

No, not at all. Can't think on any circumstances in gambling where understanding math will give you an advantage. Besides, in some games like dice, the odds and house edge are clear and understanding math would do nothing. Perhaps the one thing math would do is steer us away from gambling by helping us realize how unfair a game in a gambling game (house edge).

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