Can maths help you win in gambling ? - page 15.

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Quote from: brontosaurus on January 02, 2018, 10:20:09 AM

Yes but only if you become such a tech geek who can actually go into and calculate algorithms using which these gambling casinos operate. Except this there is no way your maths could help in gambling. If this was possible you would see tons of gambling companies who would be hiring mathematics topper from universities gambling is fate and a little bit brain.

You made a great point about the role of mathematicians in gambling, the algorithms included in gambling games are understood by some experts and they brief to people online on some platforms. But you can never rely on these algorithms or tricks. Gambling is a cruel world and it can prove you wrong and make you broke in a matter of minutes.

I agree this is a great point he has made. However, even if you are the smartest man alive, you cannot still win against the casino. If it was possible then we would have seen someone already do it. But right now no one has done it.

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Math/statistics can raise the odds of you winning as far as gambling. I'd never do the digital casino thing, though. I use online for sportsbetting and go to a casino for anything else. Good luck!

Yeah I definitely agree in this, maths can help when it comes to sports betting and some card games (poker). As far as slot games go.. I wouldn't trust any system when it comes to that! Roulette and black jack i only play at land based casinos.

I sort of agree with you because there are times when a person needs to calculate various aspects in poker or even sometimes in Blackjack because there are times when you are tempted to hit the next card while actually holding back is the rather better option mathematically but mostly it's all about luck and the control over one's gambling.

Personally I do find that maths can help you in rather restricting yourself from gambling because one who knows math will quickly realize that winning against a house edge is almost impossible and in the favor of the house. Apart from that maths I cannot think of any other way in the helping of a gambler, yeah sometimes it can be good to calculate parlay bets and sometimes to do arbitrage.
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Yeah.Thats why i never heard any mathematician got millioner in playing casino. Alrhough for me its an advantage as what i said in my previous post. Its hard to be hooked in casino you might lose everything and that somewhat depressing.

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Quote from: brontosaurus on January 02, 2018, 10:20:09 AM

Yes but only if you become such a tech geek who can actually go into and calculate algorithms using which these gambling casinos operate. Except this there is no way your maths could help in gambling. If this was possible you would see tons of gambling companies who would be hiring mathematics topper from universities gambling is fate and a little bit brain.

You made a great point about the role of mathematicians in gambling, the algorithms included in gambling games are understood by some experts and they brief to people online on some platforms. But you can never rely on these algorithms or tricks. Gambling is a cruel world and it can prove you wrong and make you broke in a matter of minutes.

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Math can help limit your loses in some casino games. But that is it. If a game is played in casino, this means that the house have an edge which can not be beaten with simple math. Everything is checked and rechecked again and again. The house always have an edge, if it doesn't have an edge will not have it on a game floor.

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Quote from: serjent05 on January 03, 2018, 07:03:10 PM

Quote from: mayidid on January 03, 2018, 06:57:30 PM

No math wont help anybody into gambling zone, gamble is a two sword one side is lucky and the other one is risk, there is nothing you can do to avoid those. Otherwise we would see a lot people very healthy, gambling scripts are made to be random soo no one can predict neither the owner. We cannot control our fate by any strategy however poker players and sports bet players apply analysis in their bets.

I believe math can help with gambling, it may not help entirely on the manual input but if someone create a script that solve hashes, it can really help winning the games. As far as I know there are two hashes that are available, the one is from the server side and the other one is client side.. Though I am not sure about this setup unless I am mistaken, solving one of this will definitely break the games setup and will give us the result of every roll.

Both said are true, it's just that it depends on the person who is trying to use it or something. If you try to make things that don't really work, then there's no sense in doing it. They are made to be unpredictable but you could make the winning chances higher if you apply mathematical probabilities that could help us in winning. It's not a sure way to win but it increases the chances of winning. I don't know if you could create a script that solves hashes, you could really predict that if you made it correctly.

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there is many factors that help you win in gambling, maths is one of them. but, the real factor that help you win in gambling is your luck.. thats my opinion.

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As long as they pay you 36:1 and they are 37 numbers or 38, there is no math that can help you in a long run.

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Quote from: mayidid on January 03, 2018, 06:57:30 PM

No math wont help anybody into gambling zone, gamble is a two sword one side is lucky and the other one is risk, there is nothing you can do to avoid those. Otherwise we would see a lot people very healthy, gambling scripts are made to be random soo no one can predict neither the owner. We cannot control our fate by any strategy however poker players and sports bet players apply analysis in their bets.

I believe math can help with gambling, it may not help entirely on the manual input but if someone create a script that solve hashes, it can really help winning the games. As far as I know there are two hashes that are available, the one is from the server side and the other one is client side.. Though I am not sure about this setup unless I am mistaken, solving one of this will definitely break the games setup and will give us the result of every roll.

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No math wont help anybody into gambling zone, gamble is a two sword one side is lucky and the other one is risk, there is nothing you can do to avoid those. Otherwise we would see a lot people very healthy, gambling scripts are made to be random soo no one can predict neither the owner. We cannot control our fate by any strategy however poker players and sports bet players apply analysis in their bets.

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Quote from: naidray on January 03, 2018, 04:40:32 AM

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Quote from: xPPx on December 21, 2017, 03:30:59 PM

Math/statistics can raise the odds of you winning as far as gambling. I'd never do the digital casino thing, though. I use online for sportsbetting and go to a casino for anything else. Good luck!

Yeah I definitely agree in this, maths can help when it comes to sports betting and some card games (poker). As far as slot games go.. I wouldn't trust any system when it comes to that! Roulette and black jack i only play at land based casinos.

I sort of agree with you because there are times when a person needs to calculate various aspects in poker or even sometimes in Blackjack because there are times when you are tempted to hit the next card while actually holding back is the rather better option mathematically but mostly it's all about luck and the control over one's gambling.

Personally I do find that maths can help you in rather restricting yourself from gambling because one who knows math will quickly realize that winning against a house edge is almost impossible and in the favor of the house. Apart from that maths I cannot think of any other way in the helping of a gambler, yeah sometimes it can be good to calculate parlay bets and sometimes to do arbitrage.

In poker it is all about probability and reading your hand correctly and putting it in a run of 1000 poker hands. How many times does it beat "X" hand with "Y" board etc.. There are also other factors in play such as your opponents and how they are playing. As far as Black Jack goes I don't trust it.. I tend to stay away from it but there are people who can do similar calculations as with poker in it, again, you run it over several hands and not just the one you are playing right there and then.

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Quote from: suvo05 on January 03, 2018, 12:31:43 PM

Math is better to analyse the game ,Math can help us making strategies and play in a smarter way but ultimately we need luck and patience to win in gambling. Each of the popular betting strategies are based on math but none can beat the house edge.

We can make strategies with math but we cant win without luck. Luck play a very important part in gambling and no matter how smart we are, we are not going to win. I hate to say this but this is the truth but still I enjoy playing in a gambling site because it is fun , some people dont think the same way as I do but I am having fun there

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Math is better to analyse the game ,Math can help us making strategies and play in a smarter way but ultimately we need luck and patience to win in gambling. Each of the popular betting strategies are based on math but none can beat the house edge.

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Nah, don't even bother.
All luck and just play for fun.

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In gambling luck is the most important thing but your experience can help you,I agree with the theory which says that maths help in gambling,for me the most important thing is part of maths which is called statistics,good analysis using statistical parameters can help you but is not sure to win,there are many others things which affect on gambling.

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Quote from: xPPx on December 21, 2017, 03:30:59 PM

Math/statistics can raise the odds of you winning as far as gambling. I'd never do the digital casino thing, though. I use online for sportsbetting and go to a casino for anything else. Good luck!

Please can you put some light on how maths can increase "chances of winning" ?
Because though I agree that maths will certainly help you make more strategies and calculate various things but actually at the end its just about luck and the edge involved. You cannot win in long term if you play against a significant edge but you can win in short term sometimes.

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Quote from: mirakal on January 03, 2018, 06:32:24 AM

Quote from: kaliann on January 02, 2018, 07:23:42 PM

Yes maybe.. but math cant make you a millioner in playing in casino games. Match can give you probably an advantage because i think if you are good in math you are good in analyzing and calculating. There are casino games that needs anaylsis and study the move of you opponent bu this doesnt mean you are a sure ball will win all the gambling games. It takes skills and a bunch of luck to win all the time.

Apply your skills on in games where there is no house edge like skilled based games, know your game and focus on it so overtime you will be able to develop your skills, maybe if you love what you are doing you can make it as your passion. One of the games that I can recommend is sports betting, if you are good in analyzing then you have a greater chance of winning.

Gambling is seldomly about skill in analyzing or calculations. Though of course you have an advantage in having control over your spendings but when it comes to the game itself, it can be a waste of time to tontry to analyze how to win

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Quote from: Ailmand on January 03, 2018, 09:15:04 AM

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I do not think that using math or other predictions you can win in gambling, and especially in roulette. There everything is designed for pleasure, not profit.

That is right. Math can't help you, but it can assist you in some points. There are some branches of Mathematics that can help you with these type of activities. There are the probabilities and statistics. Probability is mostly used in gambling, the proof is the percentage of win you can see whenever you roll your dices in some gambling sites, everything has their percentage of winning in gambling but it is pretty small. IN terms of Statistics, I think when most people use that kind of trick or skill and won a lot, you will be doing the same thing, you will start to search or ask some people about gambling, gather some data that can help you win.

Maybe it can, depending on the type of gambling game you are doing. If you are doing a gambling game that deals with probabilities or the instances where something must come out like in card games, then Math could be useful. However, if you are doing games that are best left to luck and chance, then Math won't be useful at all because there is no formula to know how something would turn out when everything about is is purely random and uncertain.

Mathematics can help us increase our chances of winning but it is only in certain types of gambling and really if we gamble often, we use math or do anything, we also can not win forever, sooner or later gambling would also regain all the things that we have. In short, gambling is still a game too dependent on luck, so I think we do not need to use mathematics, it is not effective in the long run, the math only makes us more tired in gambling, we should play comfortably, should not think too much, it will make our psychology better and sometimes get some profit

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Quote from: Creepings on September 27, 2017, 08:01:43 AM

Quote from: lexamagic on September 27, 2017, 07:44:55 AM

I do not think that using math or other predictions you can win in gambling, and especially in roulette. There everything is designed for pleasure, not profit.

That is right. Math can't help you, but it can assist you in some points. There are some branches of Mathematics that can help you with these type of activities. There are the probabilities and statistics. Probability is mostly used in gambling, the proof is the percentage of win you can see whenever you roll your dices in some gambling sites, everything has their percentage of winning in gambling but it is pretty small. IN terms of Statistics, I think when most people use that kind of trick or skill and won a lot, you will be doing the same thing, you will start to search or ask some people about gambling, gather some data that can help you win.

Maybe it can, depending on the type of gambling game you are doing. If you are doing a gambling game that deals with probabilities or the instances where something must come out like in card games, then Math could be useful. However, if you are doing games that are best left to luck and chance, then Math won't be useful at all because there is no formula to know how something would turn out when everything about is is purely random and uncertain.

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Quote from: kaliann on January 02, 2018, 07:23:42 PM

Yes maybe.. but math cant make you a millioner in playing in casino games. Match can give you probably an advantage because i think if you are good in math you are good in analyzing and calculating. There are casino games that needs anaylsis and study the move of you opponent bu this doesnt mean you are a sure ball will win all the gambling games. It takes skills and a bunch of luck to win all the time.

Apply your skills on in games where there is no house edge like skilled based games, know your game and focus on it so overtime you will be able to develop your skills, maybe if you love what you are doing you can make it as your passion. One of the games that I can recommend is sports betting, if you are good in analyzing then you have a greater chance of winning.

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Quote from: kaliann on January 02, 2018, 07:23:42 PM

Yes maybe.. but math cant make you a millioner in playing in casino games. Match can give you probably an advantage because i think if you are good in math you are good in analyzing and calculating. There are casino games that needs anaylsis and study the move of you opponent bu this doesnt mean you are a sure ball will win all the gambling games. It takes skills and a bunch of luck to win all the time.

Mathematics, no matter how accurate can never give you a true advantage in a properly run casino...

The house ]i]always[/i] wins. Always remember this. Don't ever play in a casino and think you have a chance to win. If you go in thinking you're going to win then chances are you're going to walk away depressed.

Indeed, because you would just be disappointed when you lose, thinking that you could win using mathematics won't be a good help to you to win in gambling. Maybe it could sometimes, but not always. Luck is the only one that we need in order to win in gambling, the house is a very tough opponent that we are against with, tricks won't work every time.

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