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February 07, 2018, 10:00:56 PM
Yes. I think so. If its a card game like poker it can improve your chances since you are calling the shots.You will know the odds if you are good in Math. Whenever I'm on the poker table, the hardest player to go up against is the Math wizard. Its hard to determine if its a bluff because you know that he has something.  For roulette, I don't think Math applies on that game. It all depends on luck in my opinion.
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February 07, 2018, 09:46:59 AM
but nowadays casino will reshuffle the cards before using up the full deck, and it have became harder for gamblers to do card counting.

True, but there are actually a lot of other creative ways to get an advantage over the casinos. Sometimes, it is based on miscalculations of their game mathematics.
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February 07, 2018, 09:22:30 AM
I don't think maths are able to help gamblers to have a higher win chance on all casino games, I think the only casino games that could give better advantage to gamblers are baccarat and blackjack as card counting strategy could be used, but nowadays casino will reshuffle the cards before using up the full deck, and it have became harder for gamblers to do card counting.
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February 07, 2018, 09:11:14 AM
There is no mathematical formula to figure out how to win at any gambling game.
If there was then we would of been using it and already millionaires from the casinos being bankrupt by now. Cheesy

Only thing which I can related to maths with gambling is that stringer your maths the calculation in some of the games require would be on your fingertips quickly and thus may have an some sort of edge overs others. Rest it would not matter much as rightly said that by now all the casinos would have to shut down as they would be bankrupt.

well what youre saying is a skill,perfect estimation of finger tips to edge over others,this is used most of the time in actual card games,but if your playing online this has no effect since only mind and eyes has a connection and our finger is only for final blow.

I guess before we leard to use math over gambling site,the developers and the creators of the games anticipated every angle of possibilities in regard to calculations,so math cant help us winning here
- In some kind of gambling game based on luck, calculates almost can not help us get the win, all our calculations can not be against the house, they always are in control and prevent our victory when necessary. However, things always have a few exceptions, gambling will also have some games that the house can not control completely, Blackjack is the most obvious proof, skill and calculation will be the most powerful weapon in this game, so in a certain aspect, calculations will help us win in gambling
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February 07, 2018, 04:54:51 AM
There is no mathematical formula to figure out how to win at any gambling game.
If there was then we would of been using it and already millionaires from the casinos being bankrupt by now. Cheesy

Only thing which I can related to maths with gambling is that stringer your maths the calculation in some of the games require would be on your fingertips quickly and thus may have an some sort of edge overs others. Rest it would not matter much as rightly said that by now all the casinos would have to shut down as they would be bankrupt.

well what youre saying is a skill,perfect estimation of finger tips to edge over others,this is used most of the time in actual card games,but if your playing online this has no effect since only mind and eyes has a connection and our finger is only for final blow.

I guess before we leard to use math over gambling site,the developers and the creators of the games anticipated every angle of possibilities in regard to calculations,so math cant help us winning here
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February 06, 2018, 11:31:05 PM
I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440
Math can help you have a better play but not to win always. There are lots of math-based and logic-based strategy you can find anywhere which seems to work in first few minutes of the game but if luck is not on your side no matter how good your calculation is the house still win at the end.
Nice insight, yes you are right about getting some good understanding and calculations using logic based games but we should remember that it's also math that the house owners uses to take their advantage, so even we analyze and calculate well we also needed to make sure that we do have good self control and better judgement when to stop either we already in green or still in red to avoid being completely busted.
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February 06, 2018, 10:59:31 PM
I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440
Math can help you have a better play but not to win always. There are lots of math-based and logic-based strategy you can find anywhere which seems to work in first few minutes of the game but if luck is not on your side no matter how good your calculation is the house still win at the end.
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February 06, 2018, 06:44:07 PM
I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440
For me it is a yes. Knowledge in math and skills and experience in gambling are the three factors that will really help you in winning in gambling. And sometime luck is included. Because some expert are solving the winning chance through math, and by that they are having baseline befire making a bet. They already computed the chance of winning. That why math is really a factor.
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February 06, 2018, 01:32:25 PM
There is no mathematical formula to figure out how to win at any gambling game.
If there was then we would of been using it and already millionaires from the casinos being bankrupt by now. Cheesy

Only thing which I can related to maths with gambling is that stringer your maths the calculation in some of the games require would be on your fingertips quickly and thus may have an some sort of edge overs others. Rest it would not matter much as rightly said that by now all the casinos would have to shut down as they would be bankrupt.
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February 06, 2018, 11:36:55 AM
When you are good in math its expected that you are good in analyzing and there are tons of gambling games that requires analysis so basically it can help you.
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February 04, 2018, 10:18:39 AM
I do not think that using math or other predictions you can win in gambling, and especially in roulette. There everything is designed for pleasure, not profit.
I agree,i think math can't help to win in gambling..In some ways math are applied like in playing card games but it really never give you the advantages to win in gambling.

True, math will not give us the assurance that we can always win in gambling. Math in gambling is just a way to predict the outcome of our game. Math can be used to manage our money as well but the end result won't depend on it.

Math or anything, there is no assurance whatsoever in gambling. You can do calculations, technical analysis, give offerings, etc but luck smiles at someone randomly. Most gambling games rely on luck and those that don't usually rely on how you read your opponents than calcuations
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February 02, 2018, 05:06:53 AM
I do not think that using math or other predictions you can win in gambling, and especially in roulette. There everything is designed for pleasure, not profit.
I agree,i think math can't help to win in gambling..In some ways math are applied like in playing card games but it really never give you the advantages to win in gambling.

True, math will not give us the assurance that we can always win in gambling. Math in gambling is just a way to predict the outcome of our game. Math can be used to manage our money as well but the end result won't depend on it.
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February 02, 2018, 05:02:12 AM
I highly doubt it.  Perhaps maths could help in calculating and understanding the different permutations and odds of winning but ultimately wining in gambling is mostly dependent on luck. Even the most strategic minded gamblers still can’t always win against the house despite their strategy.  If this was to be the case, many would have made massive wins in casinos based on their knowledge or expertise in maths.
Yes it is true that math can help in winning the game in gambling but it really depends the type of the game, like playing card game so mathematical calculation is useful to know where is the card has been distributed, but in the case of other game in gambling that are mostly computer generated the mathematical skills of a gambler is no effect.
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February 02, 2018, 03:42:13 AM
I do not think that using math or other predictions you can win in gambling, and especially in roulette. There everything is designed for pleasure, not profit.
I agree,i think math can't help to win in gambling..In some ways math are applied like in playing card games but it really never give you the advantages to win in gambling.
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February 01, 2018, 09:49:00 PM
There is no mathematical formula to figure out how to win at any gambling game.
If there was then we would of been using it and already millionaires from the casinos being bankrupt by now. Cheesy
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February 01, 2018, 09:25:17 PM
I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

In terms of the mathematics of the game, there is no way to win. There hasn't been a way since roulette was created. There are other ways, as the article has stated. But not through the maths of the game.
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February 01, 2018, 09:19:57 PM
Math cannot help you in roulette and Martingale is the most known way to bankruptcy but only because casinos have put betting limits. Martingale system works extremely, well if casinos(I am talking about offline ones where possibility for the ball to hit 100 times out of 100 always red is impossible statistically) have not put betting limits , with an unlimited bankroll you are guaranteed to beat the casino with the Martingale system.

Maybe math can help you a little when playing texas holdem poker or Blackjack but that is difficult too and doesn't give you a clear advantage over the casino.

In card games we can use math only if our time is not limited, once we're playing we can't guarantee that we can apply calculating while playing, that's insane , lol but there are some people on real casino especially banker who already memorize how to shuffle and distribute cards in their own advantage, maybe their tricks in foul motives,or they just used on doing it, however in online card games i think even it can, we players may not bother doing it anyways.
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January 15, 2018, 03:29:53 PM
Math cannot help you in roulette and Martingale is the most known way to bankruptcy but only because casinos have put betting limits. Martingale system works extremely, well if casinos(I am talking about offline ones where possibility for the ball to hit 100 times out of 100 always red is impossible statistically) have not put betting limits , with an unlimited bankroll you are guaranteed to beat the casino with the Martingale system.

Maybe math can help you a little when playing texas holdem poker or Blackjack but that is difficult too and doesn't give you a clear advantage over the casino.
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January 15, 2018, 12:29:51 PM
I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

I think yes since math involve analization in order for you to solve the problem just like in gambling in order for you to win you must know your strategy to won it. If you want to win in gambling you must think what strategy you must use because your strategy will help you win.
Strategy and solving problem in math is different way. Maybe math can help in some way but for me it cannot help, I can't use any kind of math related in gambling. Even if how smart you are in Math you can still lose in Gambling and that is for sure. Gamblings is base on luck and not in math.
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January 15, 2018, 10:49:43 AM
The only thing where you can apply math in gambling is calculating how much you win or most of the time how much is your total loss. You can't compute random numbers.

Calculation nothing but analysing the games, for example, sports betting. In sports betting if you have a knowledge about the game and players then you can check their past history and can up with some accurate guessing. Still, it is not a 100% accurate but much better guessing than dice results because in dice results you no way guess what will happen after you roll.

Sports betting depends on our skill set, but here calculations will not work just we can calculate our profit and loss based on that we can decide our betting amount. Actual calculations will use in casino games I know it won't work, but people do more calculations in casino games.
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