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Quote from: meliodas on March 19, 2018, 06:38:04 AM

Quote from: onebtcforlife on March 19, 2018, 01:34:49 AM

Yes, most of the cases we need Maths in order calculate. We don't know whether we are winning or losing but still, many people need this Math for calculation little thing assumption while gambling.

We could apply gambling is some games in gambling like poker, it is about probability and statistics and if you know what it is then the chances of winning in poker in higher than if you don't know any strategy in playing poker, but in DICE I think it is so hard to apply math on it because it is all random, and luck is what we needed on the most games in gambling.

Agree , Knowledge is part of the skill we can use on playing gambling games. Mathematics is needed on some games like Baccarat , Blackjack and so on. Math is essential when you are playing games that math is needed because your odds on winning will be more high because you have the knowledge on how to win it.

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Quote from: onebtcforlife on March 19, 2018, 01:34:49 AM

Yes, most of the cases we need Maths in order calculate. We don't know whether we are winning or losing but still, many people need this Math for calculation little thing assumption while gambling.

That's true, gambling is not just a game that you just going to setdown and wait for your profit to gain. Playing gambling that involved Bitcoin is really a high risk matter, you need to learn how to calculate, use some strategies, know how to control your emotions, and most of all you are knowledgeable enough to play a certain games so that you will not end up losing your money. Wink

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Quote from: onebtcforlife on March 19, 2018, 01:34:49 AM

Yes, most of the cases we need Maths in order calculate. We don't know whether we are winning or losing but still, many people need this Math for calculation little thing assumption while gambling.

We could apply gambling is some games in gambling like poker, it is about probability and statistics and if you know what it is then the chances of winning in poker in higher than if you don't know any strategy in playing poker, but in DICE I think it is so hard to apply math on it because it is all random, and luck is what we needed on the most games in gambling.

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Quote from: onebtcforlife on March 19, 2018, 01:34:49 AM

Yes, most of the cases we need Maths in order calculate. We don't know whether we are winning or losing but still, many people need this Math for calculation little thing assumption while gambling.

Maths are used mostly by most of the gamblers, in fact they are using Math and they are not realizing that it is Math that are helping them to win their gambling activities.

All of the gambling activities are always connected to Math since they are using the possibilities of either the dice, card or what will happen if they are betting on sport games. Assumption is different from calculating since assumption is thinking to what may happen but calculating what will happen based on the calculations that is made.

That's true , but the point here are about what exactly the method involve that math things? Everyone knows a bookmaker using a professional mathematician in probability to formulate the odds. That's how the game created in sports betting. You might using statistics calculation when you do want to bet on sports but casino games? I doubt there is a way, it's the matter of luck.

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Quote from: DPrillio on March 19, 2018, 03:58:11 AM

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Quote from: onebtcforlife on March 19, 2018, 01:34:49 AM

Yes, most of the cases we need Maths in order calculate. We don't know whether we are winning or losing but still, many people need this Math for calculation little thing assumption while gambling.

Maths are used mostly by most of the gamblers, in fact they are using Math and they are not realizing that it is Math that are helping them to win their gambling activities.

All of the gambling activities are always connected to Math since they are using the possibilities of either the dice, card or what will happen if they are betting on sport games. Assumption is different from calculating since assumption is thinking to what may happen but calculating what will happen based on the calculations that is made.

No, mathematical skills can be only used for playing gambling by card, other gambling at Online or even at the casino are usually using computer based and all their games are computer generated that arranged the sequence of games randomly and it is compose of a million of codes in every bit of a second, so it is impossible for a human brain to calculate using its mathematical skills, therefore gambling cannot easily win by simply using mathematics, if only that doable then millions of people are getting rich from gambling with their math ability, but gambling bankers and casino doesn't allow that, because gambling are design for them to be profitable and not for the bettors.

How can you say that? Rolling a dice of a site that is ranging from 1-100, you can still get the probability you can get from that. If you are talking about the sequence of the card deck in a poker game of site, that is out of what i am saying since I am talking about solving the PROBABILITY.

As an example of what I have given, choosing from a dice that is ranging from 1-100, you have a 1 percent of getting the answer. That is what I am saying, I am not really stating that you can mathematically solve your whole gambling activities.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on March 19, 2018, 02:00:32 AM

Quote from: onebtcforlife on March 19, 2018, 01:34:49 AM

Yes, most of the cases we need Maths in order calculate. We don't know whether we are winning or losing but still, many people need this Math for calculation little thing assumption while gambling.

Maths are used mostly by most of the gamblers, in fact they are using Math and they are not realizing that it is Math that are helping them to win their gambling activities.

All of the gambling activities are always connected to Math since they are using the possibilities of either the dice, card or what will happen if they are betting on sport games. Assumption is different from calculating since assumption is thinking to what may happen but calculating what will happen based on the calculations that is made.

No, mathematical skills can be only used for playing gambling by card, other gambling at Online or even at the casino are usually using computer based and all their games are computer generated that arranged the sequence of games randomly and it is compose of a million of codes in every bit of a second, so it is impossible for a human brain to calculate using its mathematical skills, therefore gambling cannot easily win by simply using mathematics, if only that doable then millions of people are getting rich from gambling with their math ability, but gambling bankers and casino doesn't allow that, because gambling are design for them to be profitable and not for the bettors.

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Quote from: onebtcforlife on March 19, 2018, 01:34:49 AM

Yes, most of the cases we need Maths in order calculate. We don't know whether we are winning or losing but still, many people need this Math for calculation little thing assumption while gambling.

Maths are used mostly by most of the gamblers, in fact they are using Math and they are not realizing that it is Math that are helping them to win their gambling activities.

All of the gambling activities are always connected to Math since they are using the possibilities of either the dice, card or what will happen if they are betting on sport games. Assumption is different from calculating since assumption is thinking to what may happen but calculating what will happen based on the calculations that is made.

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Yes, most of the cases we need Maths in order calculate. We don't know whether we are winning or losing but still, many people need this Math for calculation little thing assumption while gambling.

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Quote from: bajing on September 27, 2017, 06:14:30 AM

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

In my math gambling calculations are still needed and may not be very influential in gambling but in the count of bets included in the math count and this is a logical way of thinking. and there are also some gambling games that use math and it all depends on the gambling being played. win or lose not because of math or anything but all the luck factors

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could be, for example
A spin of a roulette wheel is just like throwing a coin. Each spin is independent, with a 50:50 chance of landing on a black or red ball. Contrary to intuition, the same black number may appear after running from 20 consecutive black numbers as seemingly more likely red.

This randomness means there is a way of using probability to ensure profit: always bet on the same color, and if you lose, double the bet on the next round. Because your color will appear in the end, this method will always generate profits

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Quote from: Turan100 on March 17, 2018, 03:53:47 PM

the winning of roulette bet is depend of the hash so i think everything about the luck !!

I agree, math is out of the topic here in gambling, if math could help then many people would have won in gambling. If this is your mindset in gambling, you are too confident that you are going to win, then you might just get disappointed on the result. Playing gambling is not a joke where you could just simply bet your money and going to win in return, it is more than that.

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Sometimes, it depends. There are number of of games that do requires one to caluclate their stakes and do quite a number of calculations to win while there are some that requires your luck; no matter how much good you are in arithmetics, you can't win if you don't have luck. Though most players in offline casinos have argued that arithmetics have helped them win in many games, though I don't know how true this is.

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Quote from: blockman on March 17, 2018, 05:22:15 PM

Quote from: jrrsparkles on March 17, 2018, 12:20:36 AM

Calculation don't have anything to do with our winning so it won't increase our winning percentage too,if no then maths experts may start doing gambling everyday then can become millionaires in very short time.Maybe it can help us in some games but it won't help to win the games either.

I don't know if that Math teacher was able to crack down the lotto jackpot correctly for 4 times or it's just a mere coincidence and pure luck.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023514/Joan-R-Ginther-won-lottery-4-times-Stanford-University-statistics-PhD.html

That's a high reward for such a hard statistics problem knowing that the chances of that is enormous. Probably having a PhD in Stanford makes you the best among the rest and using mathematics to solve future possible problems even in predictions.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on March 17, 2018, 12:20:36 AM

Calculation don't have anything to do with our winning so it won't increase our winning percentage too,if no then maths experts may start doing gambling everyday then can become millionaires in very short time.Maybe it can help us in some games but it won't help to win the games either.

I don't know if that Math teacher was able to crack down the lotto jackpot correctly for 4 times or it's just a mere coincidence and pure luck.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023514/Joan-R-Ginther-won-lottery-4-times-Stanford-University-statistics-PhD.html

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the winning of roulette bet is depend of the hash so i think everything about the luck !!

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Quote from: Uno17 on March 16, 2018, 09:52:17 PM

For me it’s definitely yes, because in gambling calculation matters a lot, you cannot just push and play without thinking, and using strategie because you will just rely totally in luck if no techniques at all. In playing we have to be wise also, timing calculation and strategies must go together to more effective and profitable😊

and for me instead of relying on luck as well but you must have the courage to make decisions in this gambling, because just relying on luck alone does not guarantee for you to get hockey, courage and strategy to be virtuous in playing beautiful can add confidence to yourself. rest assured hopefully this is useful.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on March 17, 2018, 12:20:36 AM

Quote from: Uno17 on March 16, 2018, 09:52:17 PM

For me it’s definitely yes, because in gambling calculation matters a lot, you cannot just push and play without thinking, and using strategie because you will just rely totally in luck if no techniques at all. In playing we have to be wise also, timing calculation and strategies must go together to more effective and profitable😊

Calculation don't have anything to do with our winning so it won't increase our winning percentage too,if no then maths experts may start doing gambling everyday then can become millionaires in very short time.Maybe it can help us in some games but it won't help to win the games either.

Yes if Math can affect the victory, then to win the gamble will not be as difficult now. Maybe in some card games, the count can be a little help to win, by counting out and outgoing cards, but for other games, we are required to depend on luck alone so math has no effect.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on March 17, 2018, 06:08:00 AM

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Quote from: serjent05 on March 15, 2018, 08:01:56 PM

But as I watched the games on youtube, it seems at the end it all matters how lucky a person is since the last game and winning cards depends on the last draw of the session. Math and Psychology helps but as I said, it is still decided by the last draw and how lucky the person is.

That’s only true for particular hands, and good poker players make money on the long term, in spite of having bad luck in some particular hands. All players have long streaks where they are lucky and others where they are unlucky. What good poker players do is to lose little when they have bad luck and to maximize their profits when cards favor them.

In poker you can be successful since that depends on your skills.
As a gambler, you need to be discipline because with weak emotion we will not make a good decision to help us succeed.
Think of the long term so you can be able to manage your money very well, because not all the time you win but seek for wins most of the time.

Yeah, fully agreed with you sir self-discipline is a must in gambling don't let gambling control on you, you must control gambling so that you can avoid on gambling addiction.
Well, math calculation I think 15% can help in gambling they are base on your luck not by calculation especially in dice gaming no need for calculation. Strategy and Pure skills must you have when you are playing gambling.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on March 17, 2018, 01:27:16 AM

Quote from: serjent05 on March 15, 2018, 08:01:56 PM

But as I watched the games on youtube, it seems at the end it all matters how lucky a person is since the last game and winning cards depends on the last draw of the session. Math and Psychology helps but as I said, it is still decided by the last draw and how lucky the person is.

That’s only true for particular hands, and good poker players make money on the long term, in spite of having bad luck in some particular hands. All players have long streaks where they are lucky and others where they are unlucky. What good poker players do is to lose little when they have bad luck and to maximize their profits when cards favor them.

In poker you can be successful since that depends on your skills.
As a gambler, you need to be discipline because with weak emotion we will not make a good decision to help us succeed.
Think of the long term so you can be able to manage your money very well, because not all the time you win but seek for wins most of the time.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on March 17, 2018, 01:27:16 AM

Quote from: serjent05 on March 15, 2018, 08:01:56 PM

But as I watched the games on youtube, it seems at the end it all matters how lucky a person is since the last game and winning cards depends on the last draw of the session. Math and Psychology helps but as I said, it is still decided by the last draw and how lucky the person is.

That’s only true for particular hands, and good poker players make money on the long term, in spite of having bad luck in some particular hands. All players have long streaks where they are lucky and others where they are unlucky. What good poker players do is to lose little when they have bad luck and to maximize their profits when cards favor them.

We call them pro in that particular aspect, as they knew how to be wiser inside the game that they've got, math is not being use here it's a timing
and a strategy where the person who already gain a lots of knowledge about the game they choose, have his own perceptions and knows when to
take advantage, but in the end of the day both pro and newbie are only depend with their luck to win in any type of gamble.

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