Can maths help you win in gambling ? - page 29.

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Quote from: expless on November 15, 2017, 02:54:55 AM

Quote from: katarin2030 on November 09, 2017, 10:19:22 AM

No, gambling is purely based on sheer luck and little bit knowledge about technicalities, maths is nothing to do with gambling.

Gambling is attached with luck only. You can’t make anything from gambling if this is not your lucky day. On unlucky day, if you have come to know fortunately, don’t play. You don’t have to go to casino or online gambling sites because on that day you may lose everything that have been achieved from winning in gambling. Better is to leave this game as it is harmful for you.

Nope. Its not just about that. Playing smartly would need doing the math. Perhaps not with the results or in game, which mostly depends on luck like dice, but for the entirery of your gambling. Like calculating hiw much you can afford to wager and what happens if you lose

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Quote from: eternalgloom on September 27, 2017, 07:36:09 AM

This article doesn't state that you can win at roulette by using math, it says this at the end:

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We can dress up the layout of the wheel, the layout of the betting cloth, our number selection and our money management system however we like, but the maths is always there, quietly working against us. You might as well just have fun, pick random numbers and trust to Lady Luck. Either that, or do as Einstein suggested and steal chips (not that we’d recommend it).

So no, it's not possible to win at roulette just by using math.

For other games it's possible, but keep in mind that casino's are doing everything in their power to prevent you from doing so.
I'm thinking of blackjack specifically, they have security measures in place to prevent you from counting cards. If they even suspect you're doing this, they can ban you from the casino.

For pvp games like poker, you can effectively use math to gain an edge over other players though.

I think you are pretty wrong!

After all all games of chance are pure math (that is why they say math is working against you).

There is a way to gain better odds - this does not mean you will win 100%, just using math you could turn the odds in your favor.

The problem with casinos is that they have staff that knows math way too good, and their job is to find the strategies that can turn the odds around and to figure a way to stop them.
So if you create a roulette that is pure chance where it will land and has no protection against any strategies then you can beat that one.
In the casino they have min and max limit to eliminate most of the strategies. They also have other ways to interact once you start winning and they do not know how you do it.

So in real casino it will be hard to beat it, as it pays millions of millions to people to figure out how it can be bitten and to prevent it from happening.

Good luck gambling Wink

Never forget the first tree rules of gambling:
The house allays wins!

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Quote from: katarin2030 on November 09, 2017, 10:19:22 AM

No, gambling is purely based on sheer luck and little bit knowledge about technicalities, maths is nothing to do with gambling.

Gambling is attached with luck only. You can’t make anything from gambling if this is not your lucky day. On unlucky day, if you have come to know fortunately, don’t play. You don’t have to go to casino or online gambling sites because on that day you may lose everything that have been achieved from winning in gambling. Better is to leave this game as it is harmful for you.

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Quote from: BlackPanda on November 14, 2017, 10:44:19 PM

Quote from: leex1528 on November 14, 2017, 12:53:44 PM

This is sort of an odd question, and I haven't read people stating this in this thread, which is the correct answer.

Math of course can help you improve your chances of winning. The problem is, even though you improve your chance, it still not a positive % that you are going to win, or the expected value is still negative, meaning, the more you play the more likely you are to lose. But yes, Math absolutely improves your chances of winning.

I do not think mathematics can determine victory in the gambling game. mathematics can not show us that gambling is a sure thing, mathematics is just a calculation and it will not apply to gambling games. gambling game is very influential to luck so we can not see what will happen in the future. gambling game is unpredictable and it is a sure thing !! so if you do not want to take a high risk then I suggest never to play gambling. gambling game only for those who dare to take risks and not afraid to lose the money they have.

There's some gamblers who still believe with martingales system that's how they see that math can help them allowing to try betting in a numbers of time and see if they can calculate the numbers of loses but even you think that you already anticipated what will the incoming results then after house will still unpredictable.

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Quote from: leex1528 on November 14, 2017, 12:53:44 PM

This is sort of an odd question, and I haven't read people stating this in this thread, which is the correct answer.

Math of course can help you improve your chances of winning. The problem is, even though you improve your chance, it still not a positive % that you are going to win, or the expected value is still negative, meaning, the more you play the more likely you are to lose. But yes, Math absolutely improves your chances of winning.

I do not think mathematics can determine victory in the gambling game. mathematics can not show us that gambling is a sure thing, mathematics is just a calculation and it will not apply to gambling games. gambling game is very influential to luck so we can not see what will happen in the future. gambling game is unpredictable and it is a sure thing !! so if you do not want to take a high risk then I suggest never to play gambling. gambling game only for those who dare to take risks and not afraid to lose the money they have.

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Quote from: bajing on September 27, 2017, 07:14:30 AM

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

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It can increase the percentage of winning highly. And for some gamblers or mostly for gamblers upping the percentage is something that can help them to play and win better. That is why some math geniuses make it look rasy on this.

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This is sort of an odd question, and I haven't read people stating this in this thread, which is the correct answer.

Math of course can help you improve your chances of winning. The problem is, even though you improve your chance, it still not a positive % that you are going to win, or the expected value is still negative, meaning, the more you play the more likely you are to lose. But yes, Math absolutely improves your chances of winning.

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Quote from: 1BTC EQUALS 1CAR on November 10, 2017, 03:08:30 AM

Absolutely, no. It is not a code that you can crack or an algebra equation that you will find the value of x because if it is, math wizards will make casino owners bankrupt and no one would ever build a casino or gambling sites anymore.

casino will never be backrupt they always have a backup code incase a person has
a really good luck they will instantly switch to non fair game and he will start losing
and finally get addicted and give a profit to the site. there hasnt been any casino which
got a loss

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Quote from: btc78 on November 12, 2017, 11:29:15 AM

Partly yes,math can help you win but not 100% sure.it will just help you compute all the angles and calculate the rate of winning..expert gambler calculating all the movements and reactions of thier opponents to take advantage,and it applies math in calculating

It depends upon what kinds of game we've play, like in playing game cards its is not necessary to be a math expert to win the game because all it needs is only addition and cards comprehension to be able to play reasonably. but for some games in online that are computer generated that is the very hard to calculate since the computer generates a millions of random sequence, so where is the math for that? i think it was used by the game developer prior the creation of the game.

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Maybe math can help a little but won't make you win in gambling because I believe winning in gambling is purely luck. Skills and experience also helps.

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Quote from: bajing on September 27, 2017, 07:14:30 AM

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

I don't believe that mathematics can help win with a gambler person. It really depends on the people's luck, if that day is their lucky day. Number of maths can help the people gaming like counting cards,..math can learn you how to count,but not help you to win.

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Quote from: Krillin61 on November 14, 2017, 08:35:08 AM

Quote from: lexamagic on September 27, 2017, 07:44:55 AM

I do not think that using math or other predictions you can win in gambling, and especially in roulette. There everything is designed for pleasure, not profit.

Precisely, for me I also don't think that math could help you to win in gambling maybe sometimes there is a chance but it is only a little. As far as I know in order to win in gambling you must have a high amount of luck and even though you have it you still lose. Besides, gambling is not worth to gain profit.

Calculation games are very less in gambling, and I don't think that calculations will work in gambling. By using our calculations, we will get fun so we will use but the real fact is we will win our games based on our luck not from our calculations.

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Quote from: lexamagic on September 27, 2017, 07:44:55 AM

I do not think that using math or other predictions you can win in gambling, and especially in roulette. There everything is designed for pleasure, not profit.

Precisely, for me I also don't think that math could help you to win in gambling maybe sometimes there is a chance but it is only a little. As far as I know in order to win in gambling you must have a high amount of luck and even though you have it you still lose. Besides, gambling is not worth to gain profit.

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I don't see how can maths help you in a game that depends totally on luck. People who come up with this such theories, like the article you put it link, are just looking for fame. Maths and numbers may help you in other type of games like cards or sports, but in Roulette, either you get lucky or you loose.

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Quote from: crwth on November 14, 2017, 06:12:34 AM

In my opinion it's good to believe in the mathematics behind everything because are surrounded with asthmatic equations and have been developed by programmers help of mathematical approach in solving problems. With that in mind i think it could really help to increase the chances of winning in gambling.

If you are good in math you have a bigger chance of winning in the long run but you need to use your initiative to choose the game that you can use your intelligence and that is the games that has no house edge. Skilled based games gives a gambler a chance to succeed and you need to love what you are doing so you can continuously develop your skills and it will help you for your long term success. It's just part of the tools that is necessary for success but if you have that you are already one step ahead from your opponent.

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In my opinion it's good to believe in the mathematics behind everything because are surrounded with asthmatic equations and have been developed by programmers help of mathematical approach in solving problems. With that in mind i think it could really help to increase the chances of winning in gambling.

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Quote from: megynacuna on November 13, 2017, 12:32:44 AM

Mathematics can improve your strategy and enhance your chances of winning but you will need a little bit of luck to be able to win and so it's not hundred percent outright that you can be successful with mathematics.

You are wrong. Strategy can't help you to win nor it can increase your chance of winning which means math can't help you.
I am sure scientists would have figured how to beat casino.
Chance to double your bet on dice is 49.5%. Do you think that math can raise chance to 90%? Grin

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Quote from: IvanPont on November 14, 2017, 04:44:47 AM

Mathematics is a science. And gambling is just a game. It is impossible to calculate how to win. In gambling everything depends not on calculations, but on your luck.

These mathematical calculations can help you to reduce your losses but as you said you can't win all bets from any calculations. Gambling houses doing a business so if they can't make a profit then they will close the casino. As players, we can only try our luck but there is no guaranty that we can win based on any kind of calculations.

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Quote from: dicer777 on November 01, 2017, 11:18:16 AM

definitely math will help you in gambling. but unfortunately im not good in math😑

It will help you to have some good analysis with the odds and other Mathematical gambling games. But if you are not good in Math it doesn't matter since you can still play with those luck-based games and other skill-based games like poker and dice game. I'm not even good at gambling but I'm only taking time to think on what games I'll play and where I'm good at. You don't have to take the risk in games that you don't know how to take advantage.

guys please can you put an example on how math actually could work and help us to win? i want to learn it if then everything makes sense. don't just talking crap , give us a concrete example with a simple proof also how to verify it.

math are so voluminous , you can not just say like that without a clear elucidation.

No one can share it here

If you want to learn Im sure they will sell them

. If probability is not math then I think math cannot help us win. Since the result of the roll of any dice depends on the chance or probability (randmoness). I believe the result of roll of everydice dependes on the calculation of the internal setup of the game. If a person is able to sync with that setup, then he will know the next result of the game.

The knowledge of math is indefinite. I would also support your point of view that if anyone claims math to be a great help in terms of gambling then he must get the Joker out of the box that is give some serious examples along with the prove that it really helped to win in gambling otherwise we do not have any time to listen to such a trash which cannot get anything actually helpful out of the gambling thing.

actually i only ask for a demonstration on how the math could really work , not the whole secret step by step how the calculation or prediction being made. there is no harm to do that right? just a little piece example nothing more.

without that i will only consider everything about math in gambling as a delusion.

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Mathematics is a science. And gambling is just a game. It is impossible to calculate how to win. In gambling everything depends not on calculations, but on your luck.

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