Can we Manipulate Bitcoin price? - page 69.

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Quote from: Wapinter on April 24, 2016, 05:40:31 PM

I know there are many big players who manipulate bitcoin price and make huge profits but can we the bitcointalk members also form a cartel and let bitcoin price never fall?is it possible that we manipulate price as I am sure most of bitcoin users visit this forum

If we have hundreds of millions of $$$ in bitcoins we can manipulate the price,which is highly unlikely...

I think that 99% of bitcointalk users are poor in bitcoin holdings. Sad

And i don`t think that it`s possible to form a cartel.We can`t control each other.

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Quote from: bitbunnny on June 13, 2016, 09:32:30 AM

The big players, whales, who hold a lot of coins can surely influence the price. Every situation with Bitcoin price happens with the reason, the price value isn't random.

We call them Chinese investors in short, they are the big whales you talking about because recently they use to shift invesment thru bitcoin making the value of yuan decrease

Let us hope that the price increase is not just due to Chinese investors.
These investors are fickle and keep looking to shift to different asset classes in the hope of making quick profits.
Bitcoin may be the flavour of the season now, but when it becomes boring to the Chinese, the price will crash.

yeah, i hope that too. because if that is true these Chinese can dump bitcoin so fast as they have bought it. but i don't think the price rise is all about Chinese buying bitcoin. it has many other reasons and Chinese is only help speed up the process and make the top bigger.

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Quote from: panju1 on June 13, 2016, 01:12:50 PM

Quote from: Jmild1 on June 13, 2016, 09:37:33 AM

Quote from: bitbunnny on June 13, 2016, 09:32:30 AM

The big players, whales, who hold a lot of coins can surely influence the price. Every situation with Bitcoin price happens with the reason, the price value isn't random.

We call them Chinese investors in short, they are the big whales you talking about because recently they use to shift invesment thru bitcoin making the value of yuan decrease

Let us hope that the price increase is not just due to Chinese investors.
These investors are fickle and keep looking to shift to different asset classes in the hope of making quick profits.
Bitcoin may be the flavour of the season now, but when it becomes boring to the Chinese, the price will crash.

But they indeed the reason why the price keeps on going up and suddenly goes up from time to time. They hold most of the bitcoins current market capacity and by that, it only means that they are the one who can manipulate the price of bitcoin.
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The hard thing is to convince enough people to move the market in a certain direction. Some people are going to want drops to buy at a good price and take advantage of others that will be losing money.

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Quote from: bitbunnny on June 13, 2016, 09:32:30 AM

The big players, whales, who hold a lot of coins can surely influence the price. Every situation with Bitcoin price happens with the reason, the price value isn't random.

I really agree with this. Big players or whales can manipulate bitcoin's price, because they have many bitcoins and can make the price of bitcoin decrease and increase easily.

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Quote from: Wapinter on April 24, 2016, 05:40:31 PM

I know there are many big players who manipulate bitcoin price and make huge profits but can we the bitcointalk members also form a cartel and let bitcoin price never fall?is it possible that we manipulate price as I am sure most of bitcoin users visit this forum

What i think if we don't have enough Bitcoin, We won't be able to manipulate its price, unless all Bitcointalk members will agree or cooperate. One person can manipulate prices if he/she have many Bitcoin, That's whats happening now why the Bitcoin is down so fast.

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Quote from: bitbunnny on June 13, 2016, 09:32:30 AM

The big players, whales, who hold a lot of coins can surely influence the price. Every situation with Bitcoin price happens with the reason, the price value isn't random.

I think with the continued increase in user or adopter. the greater the volume in the market bitcoin. the greater the volume of bitcoin market it will be more difficult as well they will manipulate the price of bitcoin This job is very risky to give you defeat because not all possibilities can be managed to manipulate prices capital must also be very large

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Quote from: coin_gambler on June 12, 2016, 07:20:37 AM

if you have a lot of bitcoins or a lt of fiat then you surely can manipulate the price as you can sell or buy a lot and push or dump the price

yeah if you have a large capital Surely you can do price manipulation. but for the price you at least require the thousands bitcoin to be able to manipulate bitcoin prices. if you only have a small capital You can start by manipulating the price of altcoin dude Cheesy

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I think the Chinese speculators not the Chinese miners are affecting the price at the moment. With a population so huge in China there are a lot of wealthy people living there who are interested into investing their money in profitable ventures and Bitcoin presents a perfect opportunity for them to grab a quick profit by jumping on the Bitcoin bandwagon. The hype of the upcoming halving certainly makes for a very good timing to buy a bunch of Bitcoin right now because everyone is holding their coins so the price is bound to increase.

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Quote from: panju1 on June 13, 2016, 01:12:50 PM

Quote from: Jmild1 on June 13, 2016, 09:37:33 AM

Quote from: bitbunnny on June 13, 2016, 09:32:30 AM

The big players, whales, who hold a lot of coins can surely influence the price. Every situation with Bitcoin price happens with the reason, the price value isn't random.

We call them Chinese investors in short, they are the big whales you talking about because recently they use to shift invesment thru bitcoin making the value of yuan decrease

Let us hope that the price increase is not just due to Chinese investors.
These investors are fickle and keep looking to shift to different asset classes in the hope of making quick profits.
Bitcoin may be the flavour of the season now, but when it becomes boring to the Chinese, the price will crash.

The Chinese people are real, they are making it because they want to use it on their business. I think this is not a trick to manipulate the price and it is the real demand for a possible good business they are planning, we know Chinese people are business minded.

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Quote from: Jmild1 on June 13, 2016, 09:37:33 AM

Quote from: bitbunnny on June 13, 2016, 09:32:30 AM

The big players, whales, who hold a lot of coins can surely influence the price. Every situation with Bitcoin price happens with the reason, the price value isn't random.

We call them Chinese investors in short, they are the big whales you talking about because recently they use to shift invesment thru bitcoin making the value of yuan decrease

Let us hope that the price increase is not just due to Chinese investors.
These investors are fickle and keep looking to shift to different asset classes in the hope of making quick profits.
Bitcoin may be the flavour of the season now, but when it becomes boring to the Chinese, the price will crash.

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Quote from: DeDordtenaar on June 13, 2016, 10:07:59 AM

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Quote from: coin_gambler on June 12, 2016, 07:20:37 AM

if you have a lot of bitcoins or a lt of fiat then you surely can manipulate the price as you can sell or buy a lot and push or dump the price

Thats just stupid, thats means you are sacrificing your bitcoin to do that while there are other chance to manipulate it. For example creating buy pressure by making thousand of bitcoin buy order incase you have the money or create thousand of huge sell order to scare the small fish

yeah it was just sacrificing your bitcoin only because not all the opportunity to succeed to create a panic selling to users? especially at this time bitcoin users increased very much. I'm sure even if you have a large capital. you will not be able to scare users more than 10 million users? it's just pointless

Some people have a small pump group that has around few millions dollars at their own pocket so a one single person action wont do anything. Besides manipulating it yourself needs a lot of works and some people might just be denying what you are doing though because you are not the only one with money

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Quote from: WEBcreator on June 12, 2016, 07:25:12 AM

Quote from: coin_gambler on June 12, 2016, 07:20:37 AM

if you have a lot of bitcoins or a lt of fiat then you surely can manipulate the price as you can sell or buy a lot and push or dump the price

Thats just stupid, thats means you are sacrificing your bitcoin to do that while there are other chance to manipulate it. For example creating buy pressure by making thousand of bitcoin buy order incase you have the money or create thousand of huge sell order to scare the small fish

yeah it was just sacrificing your bitcoin only because not all the opportunity to succeed to create a panic selling to users? especially at this time bitcoin users increased very much. I'm sure even if you have a large capital. you will not be able to scare users more than 10 million users? it's just pointless

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Quote from: bitbunnny on June 13, 2016, 09:32:30 AM

The big players, whales, who hold a lot of coins can surely influence the price. Every situation with Bitcoin price happens with the reason, the price value isn't random.

We call them Chinese investors in short, they are the big whales you talking about because recently they use to shift invesment thru bitcoin making the value of yuan decrease

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The big players, whales, who hold a lot of coins can surely influence the price. Every situation with Bitcoin price happens with the reason, the price value isn't random.

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Quote from: coin_gambler on June 12, 2016, 07:20:37 AM

if you have a lot of bitcoins or a lt of fiat then you surely can manipulate the price as you can sell or buy a lot and push or dump the price

Yes, in many times that bitcoin price changes I doubt if someone is manipulating prices to make more profit, some people who own lots of bitcoin and fluctuations can have a lot of profit for them.

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Quote from: sobsitesearch on June 13, 2016, 08:06:10 AM

I think this is imposible because the bitcoin of each users is very secure you can not manipulate the selfie verification that is the one thats hard to copy. If you try to manipulate bitcoin so goodlack

No men i disagree, and i really believe that we can manipulate bitcoins price and as you can see this rally happenings? It was made by people who buys more bitcoin and hold and that is the main factor we can see price up rally and if people well sell their all coins they have it can affect bitcoins price to go down for more like what happen in tradings it can be apply here and thats why i can say we can manipulate the bitcoins price.

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I think people on this forum are not enough to manipulate the price of bitcoin, we can only manipulate the price on those exchanges where most of the users are from this forum.

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I think this is imposible because the bitcoin of each users is very secure you can not manipulate the selfie verification that is the one thats hard to copy. If you try to manipulate bitcoin so goodlack

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Quote from: coinzat on June 12, 2016, 07:46:50 AM

you can control bitcoin price in one exchange by making a bot that sells and buy to itself in a specific price level. but what is the benefit from that ? it is waste of time

Lol! Like yobit, eh? Well if you have huge stock then you can. Set your bot to fool anyone and wait to profit.

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