Topic: Can You Memorize Your Recovery Phrase? (Read 2238 times)

At this point you don’t need anyone to tell you about the benefits of safe guarding your seed phrase, if you feel your security is not so good why not create another alternative. After reading this I’m curious to ask if anyone can actually memorize their seed phrase for a long period of time without forgetting the words, it’s obvious the brain works differently from other body parts so I will advice you avoid such move. We’ve clearly seen people loss their memory at an old age or due to certain reason besides I can’t just memorize my seed phrase without other alternative rather I will not feel alright, it all depends maybe yours is so different.

My toxic trait is telling me that it's something I can do, I can cram my seed phrase on my head but there is one thing I'm scared about, it's the things that are very dare to me and very important I do forget, the seed phrase is something I can cram on my head and remind myself about it but because it's too important, I will be scared that I will forget it and I will eventually, it's possible for me to forget it.

There is no point in cramming seed phrase into your head but if you must do, you must make sure you have done the basic one, make sure it's fully back up in a secure location(s) just in case and after all that is done. You can then try using your brain if it can accommodate it. Anytime you need your funds, you can use the one on your head and incase that one doesn't work, you can go and verify with the one you back and saved in a safe location, this will help you clear all the doubt.

Yes, of course, I can remember the seed phrase to manage my bitcoins.

But I do not rely on my memory, I use a complex mental technology called "Mind Palace". It was described in detail in the TV series about Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson.

The essence of the technology is that you recreate in your memory some real room or building, which has many rooms. In this room or building, you imagine various objects that correspond to the English words of the seed phrase.

Every day you travel through your "Mind Palace" and as a result, you can always restore the seed phrase in your memory. You will never forget it.

You can do both, right? You don't have to rely entirely on your memory, you can keep physical copies on paper/offline, to ensure that if you forget, you can retrieve the backups.

Making backups with redundancies, including memorizing a mnemonic phrase, is a good strategy.

I've already memorized several mnemonic phrases, it's not difficult at all if you do mental exercises to fix them.

Starting by memorizing the first 4 words and then + 2 remaining = 1/2 dozen, then just repeat the process for the remaining 6 words.

After memorizing the first 6 and last 6 words, then try to repeat all 12 words mentally until you can memorize them all, eventually anyone should be able to do it.

Use the same strategy for mnemonic phrases with longer extensions such as 18 and 24 words, memorizing the first half + second half and then = put them all together.

Repeat the words you don't remember mentally to force memorization. All of this must be done mentally. You can write down the exercises to consolidate your memory on paper, but you will leave traces if you don't burn them later.

Because in the end, memorizing phrases or seeds can only be used as an option not as the main thing to do considering that when we want something more convenient, writing it down and storing it in a safe place is the best thing.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't memorize because it's okay when we want to do that, but there are risks in every situation, considering that memorizing is definitely a risk of forgetting, especially when we are faced with a lot of thoughts that are worried that it will interfere and forget the phrase we have.
Although the risk of storing in a safe place also has some indications or possibilities such as damage or our writing becomes faded but in the end this can be the most possible step to be used as the main requirement in securing the phrase and memorizing becomes another option as a backup only.

Storing your private key in multiple places can be risky especially if op is living in a place where is crowded or have lots ifr friends. If we stay in a home where don't usually receive visitors like that, having a office or secret room in the house, that could make storing the private key in multiple locations. We can decide to store the private key in dairy or a book that is isolated from people around the house. We can also decide to memorize our private key to make sure that we still have the possession even though the private key is  available somewhere else just like a backup so Incase we could not remember it anymore, we can go back to where it was written to fetch it again.

Anyone admits that by memorizing the phrase recovery is a bad idea compared to the benefits obtained and I agree with you, of course, every human being has a different memory and from the many activities that we do every day, of course, it is difficult to remember the phrase recovery in the long term and when we can't remember when we want to access the assets we have, of course we can't do anything and can only regret it because of what we do. We have collected it in vain.
Choosing to save the recovery phrase in an email and be supported by 2fa and also write in the form of a document I think is better than memorizing it which we can't necessarily guarantee if something happens of course this is very detrimental.

Reading this was very funny to how op said his house is no longer safe then were exactly those op thinks it's safe and memorizing it is even worst than him complaining that his house is not safe, what if you forget how do you get back anything back. The disavantage of mesmerizing is more than that of the advantage, so why put your funds under that risk just because he feels his house is not safe. No matter how intelligent you are or even have a retentive memory I would not advise anyone to try and store something of valuable in your memory.

And if op thinks he can actually do it then I don't see why we should even be worried about him is an adult and I think he should be able to handle is own problems, some situations are ment for the person to learn the hard way op should be left alone eventually if he succeeds then congratulations to him and if he does not succeed then to is lost then.

I can really say that i do have some good memory or remembering up on things but in speaking about minding or memorizing my seed phrase then this is something that i wont really be that confident enough
on doing so. One word or phrase that be forgotten then say good bye into your coins or simply you would really be having hard time to recover. This is why its always best that you should really be considering out on writing it on a piece of paper and would be having that sense of confidence that you wont really be losing up those coins into a particular wallet but of course you should really be that still mindful into the things
like trying out to get rid for other people to see those phrases or would really be able to lost up that paper on where you do write those phrases or been seen by someone or whatever things that could happen.
Even myself would really be that recommending that memorizing is really just that a risky thing to be done by someone when it comes into this aspect. I would really be that recommending on having multiple ways of backing up those phrases.

Even though you can memorize it well and correctly, it is better to record your wallet phase and this should be done even though the assets are in small amounts so that it can become a habit. Because human memory often forgets as we age. And as you said, one wrong phase means we cannot access our wallet, of course this will be very detrimental. So it is better to record it, no matter how great your memory is, at some point there must be something you forget, it is better to prevent it if it has happened, it will stress you out.

Recording is important, some people lose valuables because they forget something and some people lose important opportunities just because their memory is lacking. So it is better to try to record all the phases of your wallet and keep them in the safest place. If you really like to memorize it is better but still prioritize recording everything related to the wallet.

According to the OP, his house is not very secured and he's thinking of memorising his recovery phrase well it's a bad idea because the disadvantage is much greater than the benefits, the human brain was created in a way to store information given to it for a very long period, well not everybody has retentive memory and it's normal to forget, if the OP is one with a retentive memory then good for him and the benefit is that no one else can have access to his wallet asides him but the bad side of it is health issues like Amnesia, severe Typhoid or as result of stress and he could lose his assets completely if such occurs and he's not able to remember even if it's a word from his recovery phrase. I support your idea of telling him to strore it in an email supported by 2fa or he could as well get a safe and store the recovery safe written in a document inside it.

In my opinion, the advice you gave above to remember or memorize the password, in my opinion is bad advice, the potential for losing the assets held is very large. What you say is very true, if we hold a treasure or property, it would be better if we kept it in a safe place. Like writing it or we can create a phrase using a steel plate or we can create a new email without being contaminated by anything supported by a key like 2fa

If i have learned anything by studying psychology, is that we can't purely trust just our own brains, or others to remember something correctly. With a photographic memory situation could be better, but most brains are wired to fail when they need to be accurate. And be it words or numbers, we get easily confused if someone applies pressure to us. If we could trust our brains, tricks like gaslighting wouldn't work, and lots of grifters would be out of job.

Being confident that you would remember phrases means just that you are confident so far about it. But trusting just your own brain because you haven't encountered situation where you blanked, you are just putting your savings in unnecessary risk.

What comes to point of op, there are several ways to store your privatekey or seed phrase. And i would take a page from Vitalik, as he had the private key in 2 parts, and other part was stored with his family. When he needed the rest of it, he picked up the phone, asked for them and typed them out.

And when no one knows where you have stored the rest of it, you can easily recover if one of them is stolen. Not to mention that you know you might be compromised and move the cryptos to other wallet completely before criminals get to it.

12/24 word security phase is not very difficult to remember but more arguments can be made for not remembering it but writing it down correctly on a piece of paper to avoid any mistakes. There is a lot of risk if you want to remember, especially if for some reason you forget your important security system, you will never be able to recover because you remembered one and didn't feel the need to write it down. If one of the 24 or 12 word phases is not correct then you will not be able to access your wallet in any way, in which case your wallet will be lost forever and your important altcoins including bitcoins will be lost forever. So you can save it in a proper and safe place without remembering it in any way but keep it in notepad or notebook.

Well you could leave a few last words and tell someone you’d actually like and respect to trust with your secret. It could be in a form of will and testament. Or just hand them a paper indicating where the back up copy is.
Please make sure that your kid is not a child. If your kid is still a child, they might not understand just how severely serious this is and might tell everyone or anyone about your seed phrase.

A really risky thing to be done by someone but if you are a person who do have that photographic memory then it could be considered but still the risks is there considering that not all would really be able to memorize things for the rest of their lives on which there would really be those particular moments that we do really forget up something on which we know that it would really be something crucial when forgetting 1 single word into that phrase of your wallet on which it would really be that a huge trouble if that one happens specially if you have stored your crypto investment or holdings into that wallet. If you are really that confident with your memory then its up to you and proceed on what you do really like but i would really be that recommend that it is really still much more safer if you would be doing some back up writing with those phrases on which of course you should really be doing your very best on trying out to avoid those phrases to be seen by other people. This is the only issue that you would really be needing to avoid as much as you could.

If you arent that confident with those paper writing then you could buy some hardware wallet or you would be buying up some steel plate and hide it out into those places that no one would really be able to find out.
There's no wrong on memorizing those phrases but i do always have those doubts that if i would really be doing it to myself then after a few months or weeks then i might forgot some of those words
and this does means that say goodbye into your coins if this one happens. So its better to be prepared than to be sorry in the end. It isnt really just too hard for you to do additional steps for the safekeeping of
your coins on which its specially holding up for long term.

seed phrase is not something someone can memorised, because the lengths of the digits is ambiguous, so from my understanding knowing your seed phrase off hand is good but it will be difficult before someone will have all of the seed phrase in he or her brain

I know that the best method to store your seed phrase is through documentation manually, and I will not encourage anyone to save or store its seed phrase through email or online, because their is every tendency that someone can access your wallet when they penetrate into your email address through hack,

Is not good to store your seed phrase in anything that has to do with online because of misplacement of system, because if someone noticed your seed phrase its obvious that anything in your wallet is gone.

Your priority should be to secure your home. Not just because you own bitcoin and have a recovery phrase somewhere in it, but because both you and your belongings are vulnerable if it isn't secure. What could happen is that someone breaks in easily if it isn't safe and steals your valuables.  

It's possible, but that shouldn't be your only backup. You should have multiple physical copies of your seed, preferably in different geographical locations. After that, you can try to memorize the words just to see if you can. Obviously, you shouldn't write it down and leave copies all over the place to see if it's still in your memory.

I have never tried it. I remember parts of my passphrases, especially those I use more frequently. But my recovery phrases are hidden and this isn't something you need to access all of the time unless you are recovering your wallets or using stateless signing devices.

It is expected you store your recovery seed phrase in different places for a better security reasons, there is nothing absolutely wrong memorizing it if you can as having lost mean that you can not have access to your wallet in the cast of attenting to login in to another device in the future terms where and when necessarily needed. But however, there is possibilities of having a miss up when trying to memorize them, so I will advise that writing them down and store in different places will be the best option, as a safety net that you can fall back to when the need arises.

If you would still write them down for safekeeping, why then waste your time memorizing them? Manually writing our seed phrases down and carefully keeping them is the best way here and I will not even support memorizing them at all. Though we can try to memorise them in addition to the manual writing, but I can assure you that you might still rely on the ones you write down rather than the ones you put in your head.

We all know how the human brain works, what if we later forget? What if there are mental health challenges and you could remember them again? That is why we should be smart in this regard but also be reasonable in the way we safely keep the written phrases.