Can You Memorize Your Recovery Phrase? - page 5.

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Quote from: Article4tip on June 14, 2024, 03:03:19 PM

Just remembered that I have written the recovery seed phrase of my Electrum on a piece of paper somewhere in my place. I'm wondering what could go wrong since my place isn't too secured. How about trying to memorize it? Is it possible?

Would you try?
What are the benefits? ... and the setbacks.

Memorizing seed phrases may be easy, but we never know how in the future our memory could weaken for various reasons. Maybe memorizing is an alternative, but can you guarantee that in the future our memories will remain the same? But for now, personally I don't do that and prefer other ways to store the seed phrases that I have because I'm afraid we will forget them.

The debate regarding saving seed phrases is always the most interesting because this is a security measure that needs to be maintained properly and everyone must have an effective method according to their own views. There are several methods that have been explained and maybe you can make a study of the security measures chosen.

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Quote from: mindrust on June 21, 2024, 12:44:44 AM

I can memorize my seed words if I really have to. I did it in the past and it worked well but then I didn’t want to spend my brain resources on that while a piece of paper can work as well, sometimes better.

If you are going to memorize your seed words at least have a paper backup around because you can’t know when the dementia will get you. It could be anytime. It happens to young people too.

It only takes one forgotten word or letter to mess everything up. Bitcoin’s history is full of stories like that.

I don't even remember one of them at the moment. I believe in saving in some way to avoid losing. This is too risky, when you just remember. The other thing is, my memory is not very good so I don't remember it.
I don't think there is enough 1 model to avoid losing Recovery Phrase. The more you have a way to store in a certain place, maybe it will make it easier for you if you have problems with losing phrases. Although it can also make you worry about being stolen by people. But with a little combination that you understand it will make it difficult, besides that I am sure not everyone understands about phrases.

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I can memorize my seed words if I really have to. I did it in the past and it worked well but then I didn’t want to spend my brain resources on that while a piece of paper can work as well, sometimes better.

If you are going to memorize your seed words at least have a paper backup around because you can’t know when the dementia will get you. It could be anytime. It happens to young people too.

It only takes one forgotten word or letter to mess everything up. Bitcoin’s history is full of stories like that.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on June 20, 2024, 10:04:54 PM

It's possible to memorize your seed phrase, but with lots of information going to your mind on a daily basis, I doubt that you can remember it for months or even years.

We can remember a wallet seed phrase if we always practice recalling it every day. We have to remember it first and on daily basis, we must recall these seed phrase. Practice it daily will help our brain does not forget these words.

If we don't do it daily, we certainly will forget all of seed words or few of them after one, two weeks or some months.

Practice it daily is a good way to remember seed phrase but it only works if we don't have health accidents that can affect our brain and memory. We can not control health accidents so this method, using brain and memory to remember seed phrase is risky.

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Quote from: Article4tip on June 14, 2024, 03:03:19 PM

Just remembered that I have written the recovery seed phrase of my Electrum on a piece of paper somewhere in my place. I'm wondering what could go wrong since my place isn't too secured. How about trying to memorize it? Is it possible?

Would you try?
What are the benefits? ... and the setbacks.

It's possible to memorize your seed phrase, but with lots of information going to your mind on a daily basis, I doubt that you can remember it for months or even years.

I've created lots of wallets already ever since I joined the crypto space. From Electrum, to Metamask, to Ronin wallet and others, I've always wrote all of their seed phrases and put it on a storage where I know it will be safe. I also put a lock on it so that it will add an extra layer of security. I know this isn't the best way of storing seed phrases, but in a community where I am right now where it's only me who knows anything about crypto, I still feel that it's safe at least. Cheesy

Anyway, memorizing your seed phrase ALONE will give you some problems. Memorizing it would be fine but find another way to secure your seed phrase.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on June 14, 2024, 03:38:52 PM

It depends. If it was a 12 word seed, no problem. 24 word? That could pose a challenge.

Even it is only 10-12 words, I think it is still a problem. Cheesy

It is not a challenge but it's a serious risk to access our investment.
Personally, I will never try to keep it by memorizing only. It is better to keep it on a more secure way (write them on a paper, metal, or other else).

Quote from: darkangel11 on June 14, 2024, 03:38:52 PM

The problem is I would find it to be risky for large amounts of money. I'd be gambling, betting on my ability to remember everything right after some time. That's where the weakness lies. I tend to forget unused things, so every day I'd have to say it in my mind before going to bed to remember it, so it's fresh in the memory. Feels like some unnecessary burden.

Yep. It is an unnecessary burden. Sure, there is no problem to memorize it but don't only keep it in a single method.
Sometimes, we already gamble investing in random coins. Why we must gamble again for the way to access it? Grin

It is not a funny way to manage our investment. If we can't remember it, everything will be gone forever.

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Quote from: Article4tip on June 14, 2024, 03:03:19 PM

Just remembered that I have written the recovery seed phrase of my Electrum on a piece of paper somewhere in my place. I'm wondering what could go wrong since my place isn't too secured. How about trying to memorize it? Is it possible?

Would you try?
What are the benefits? ... and the setbacks.

If your wallet's recovery phase is 12 words long, it won't be hard for you to remember, but if it's 24 words long, it might be hard for you to remember. But if you can remember and store important documents at the same time, it is more convenient because in case you lose your documents, your remembered password or recovery phase will help in recovering your wallet. But you should save the documents well and keep those documents in a safe place so that they cannot destroy your documents in natural calamities.

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Recovery phrase can be memorized but to be on a safe side, i don't think it's good at all. If you memories it how can you pass it on when you are no more, and the person you pass it on too memories it and can't recall it,that means your Bitcoin asset is gone ,or due to health issues and can't remember ,your assets will be lost forever. No matter how brilliant or wise you are ,it is you write down or engrave your seed phrase for future and safety purpose. If you are someone that does not talk took much , it's okay ,but for someone that talks a lot , it's not safe because you don't know when you will spill it out when in mist of your friends.
When moving out of the country, you could engrave it on a bracelet, write up on any clothe or foot wear you are wearing which will make the clothe looks like a designers outfit or even tattoo it on your skin because a lot of person will not reason such , they will be looking for paper write up.

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Quote from: Luizwalter Crypt on June 20, 2024, 03:48:13 PM

Quote from: Article4tip on June 14, 2024, 03:03:19 PM

Just remembered that I have written the recovery seed phrase of my Electrum on a piece of paper somewhere in my place. I'm wondering what could go wrong since my place isn't too secured. How about trying to memorize it? Is it possible?

Would you try?
What are the benefits? ... and the setbacks.

Even if am very good at memorizing stuff, I wouldn't try that with my seed phrases anyday. I rather save them with other multiple means that is after which I've written them on a hidden file.
However, it could have been more possible to memorize it if you were required to provide them when ever you log in to your account but in this case you only need them during re-registeration process which doesn't happen all the time sometimes not even in a year Interval.

Even myself wont really be that comfortable or even really that confident on just simply memorizing my phrase considering that it is really that having inside some coins which does have value.
On the moment that you would really be able to forget even a single word or two then say goodbye into your coins and this is something that we dont really like to happen.
This is why it would really be that recommended that you should really be having that multiple back ups on storing up your keys on which memorizing is something the most risky
rather than on putting up on a paper. There are really that indeed moments that you do forget stuffs and it would be that something that crucial on just simply memorizing your keys.

If you are really that confident with this method then go ahead and try it out but dont make yourself banging up your head into the wall into the time that you would be finding
yourself having that kind of situation which you have lost all of your coins because of such mistake.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on June 17, 2024, 10:58:39 AM

For me this would only make sense for a specific case of danger and for a specific period of time. Like you have to flee your country and maybe cross borders where you don't want them to find anything that could smell like bitcoin, like a HW or a paper with the seeds written on it. As a method of 'storing' the seeds for an indefinite period of time instead of having them hidden somewhere, there is too much danger of forgetting them, no matter how much memory you have.

Yeah, it's just going to be an option at the end of the day because it's fine to memorize but it doesn't mean that we have to save the seeds just by memorizing because that's definitely a bad situation because the risk is greater than if we save the seeds in writing.

If you really want to memorize the seeds that we have, it is not a mistake but of course the most important thing in this case is that we must still write down the seeds that we have as a form or conventional way to always be protected from forgetfulness of memorization.

We don't know what will happen when we only memorize the seeds without writing them down considering the vulnerability of forgetfulness is clearly very possible especially since we will also continue to grow older from year to year so that indeed memorizing alone without writing down any seeds is clearly very risky.

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Quote from: Article4tip on June 14, 2024, 03:03:19 PM

Just remembered that I have written the recovery seed phrase of my Electrum on a piece of paper somewhere in my place. I'm wondering what could go wrong since my place isn't too secured. How about trying to memorize it? Is it possible?

Would you try?
What are the benefits? ... and the setbacks.

Even if am very good at memorizing stuff, I wouldn't try that with my seed phrases anyday. I rather save them with other multiple means that is after which I've written them on a hidden file.
However, it could have been more possible to memorize it if you were required to provide them when ever you log in to your account but in this case you only need them during re-registeration process which doesn't happen all the time sometimes not even in a year Interval.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on June 17, 2024, 10:58:39 AM

For me this would only make sense for a specific case of danger and for a specific period of time. Like you have to flee your country and maybe cross borders where you don't want them to find anything that could smell like bitcoin, like a HW or a paper with the seeds written on it. As a method of 'storing' the seeds for an indefinite period of time instead of having them hidden somewhere, there is too much danger of forgetting them, no matter how much memory you have.

I can't even imagine myself memorizing my wallet seed phrase because I feel its not the right thing to do. For how long would I have keep that shit on my head. It is not really meant to be on our head but in a safe place for as long as possible. Anything can happen to us if we thinks we are good at memorizing words. There is nothing bad for us to keep such in our head but it is not meant to be there. Maybe we can keep it somewhere and likewise memorize it so that it can be in two places. Whatever way we intend to keep our seed phrase, it is better we keep it in a safe place so that we don't have to find it.

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Quote from: Nrcewker on June 20, 2024, 01:06:45 PM

Nothing is impossible, mate. If you really have a sharp brain, and if the recovery phrase is less in number, then yes, you can easily memorize it. But yes, for safety reasons, it’s better to write it down somewhere safe also. This is the human brain, and it is prone to diseases. Moreover, what we should avoid is storing it digitally. Yes, memorizing the recovery phrase has some advantages; you need not have to carry the hard copy always, but for certain people it’s not possible. Hence, memorizing it varies from person to person.

People can have a strong memory but not forever, someone can forget one wrong word and it will be fatal and your wallet will never be opened, especially this drafting problem will be difficult even though nothing is impossible, what if we forget our memory and what if we are old who is likely to forget quickly.

The best reason to take the safer path, yes why don't we just write it down and reserve other security just in case it is not lost or deleted or forgotten, because the seed phrase is as valuable as the assets we have in the wallet, so don't underestimate this because we can remember it today, there needs to be further action to anticipate.

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In the modern era, have many secure place for saving you recover phrase why need to memorize in our mind? Its stupid way for us when try memorize with seed phrase although its possible behind some seed phrase only 12 word but if any seed phrase reach above 24 word I believe its hard to memorize.
I scare when memorizing seed phrase and save it only in our mind get difficulty if bad accident happen to us how to talk to our family about seed phrase in our brain.

Better save seed phrase on notepad or some thing more secure place when unpredictable thing happen to us we can talking to our family with bitcoin assets, too risk only us memorizing seed phrase with potential who will recovery our wallet later if get bad accident to us actually with market condition on the higher price but our self get bad accident.

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Nothing is impossible, mate. If you really have a sharp brain, and if the recovery phrase is less in number, then yes, you can easily memorize it. But yes, for safety reasons, it’s better to write it down somewhere safe also. This is the human brain, and it is prone to diseases. Moreover, what we should avoid is storing it digitally. Yes, memorizing the recovery phrase has some advantages; you need not have to carry the hard copy always, but for certain people it’s not possible. Hence, memorizing it varies from person to person.

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Quote from: Gaza13 on June 20, 2024, 12:07:21 PM

Quote from: Vinaa77 on June 19, 2024, 08:41:22 PM

Indeed, it would be better if we wrote it down and kept it in a safe place, because by memorizing it we will not necessarily be able to remember it well and it could be that after memorizing it and rarely opening it, it is very likely that we will not be able to remember it well. I think it would be better if we wrote it down. and save it in the right way that we can easily remember and also have to tell people we really trust and it's better if we save it in several parts so that we can remember well where we keep the wallet key, because if we don't remember where we save it then the assets What we have collected will be lost along with the wallet key that we have saved.

Indeed, memorizing the initial sentence is not recommended in this case, this is carelessness for the person. Thinking about how to keep assets safe, there are many ways that people think about how to protect them, some write them down and then store them in a safe, there are also those who buy steel plates online and then string together some of the letters. into a sentence and then put it in a safe place to keep it. there are also who put it in email, meaning he created a new email without being contaminated with anything and then he linked it to 2fa. Yes, this depends on how the person uses it to protect their assets.

In my opinion, memorizing the seed phrase is not a bad idea because it has advantages such as we will never have to worry about others stealing it or being able to use it at any time. But we need to think about its downside: if our memory fails and it is the only backup, we will completely lose access to our bitcoins. It can be seen that this method has more disadvantages than advantages it brings, so it is really not recommended.

In general, each method will have advantages and disadvantages, so it wouldn't be bad if we combined 1 or 2 methods to achieve maximum effectiveness.

OP, why don't you try combining phrase memorization with one of the methods people have mentioned?

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Quote from: Vinaa77 on June 19, 2024, 08:41:22 PM

Indeed, it would be better if we wrote it down and kept it in a safe place, because by memorizing it we will not necessarily be able to remember it well and it could be that after memorizing it and rarely opening it, it is very likely that we will not be able to remember it well. I think it would be better if we wrote it down. and save it in the right way that we can easily remember and also have to tell people we really trust and it's better if we save it in several parts so that we can remember well where we keep the wallet key, because if we don't remember where we save it then the assets What we have collected will be lost along with the wallet key that we have saved.

Indeed, memorizing the initial sentence is not recommended in this case, this is carelessness for the person. Thinking about how to keep assets safe, there are many ways that people think about how to protect them, some write them down and then store them in a safe, there are also those who buy steel plates online and then string together some of the letters. into a sentence and then put it in a safe place to keep it. there are also who put it in email, meaning he created a new email without being contaminated with anything and then he linked it to 2fa. Yes, this depends on how the person uses it to protect their assets.

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Quote from: Fiasem20 on June 17, 2024, 05:19:50 PM

Memorizing your seed phrase is absolutely an uncalculated risk.Seed phrase are to be written on several pieces of paper or encrypted on a steel and kept in a safe place.What do you think should be the essence why crypto wallets generate seed phrase,the reason is seed phrase that is also known as recovery phrase are mixed words it could be 12 or 24, they are used to recover wallet in case a user lose hold of his/her digital asset and crypto wallet.The best way to store your seed phrase is by keeping it safe offline(on a paper)and not online.Memorizing your seed phrase is nothing but stressing the brain that's meant to store other vital informations.

Yeah, and even if we can memorized it, sooner or later it will fail us as our brain might go hiccup and forget that one word and then it screw everything up for us. That's why this is not recommended, although I have nothing against those who try to practice it, but there is no fail-safe here.

So just write it down your mnemonic phrase and then hide or or protect it at all cost. And try to spread it, could be in your house, or even in a safety deposit box in a bank. And probably majority will agree to me that this is a very bad idea specially if you don't have a back up and just trying to put everything in your mind.

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Quote from: Fiasem20 on June 17, 2024, 05:19:50 PM

Memorizing your seed phrase is absolutely an uncalculated risk.Seed phrase are to be written on several pieces of paper or encrypted on a steel and kept in a safe place.What do you think should be the essence why crypto wallets generate seed phrase,the reason is seed phrase that is also known as recovery phrase are mixed words it could be 12 or 24, they are used to recover wallet in case a user lose hold of his/her digital asset and crypto wallet.The best way to store your seed phrase is by keeping it safe offline(on a paper)and not online.Memorizing your seed phrase is nothing but stressing the brain that's meant to store other vital informations.

Indeed, it would be better if we wrote it down and kept it in a safe place, because by memorizing it we will not necessarily be able to remember it well and it could be that after memorizing it and rarely opening it, it is very likely that we will not be able to remember it well. I think it would be better if we wrote it down. and save it in the right way that we can easily remember and also have to tell people we really trust and it's better if we save it in several parts so that we can remember well where we keep the wallet key, because if we don't remember where we save it then the assets What we have collected will be lost along with the wallet key that we have saved.

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Quote from: Article4tip on June 14, 2024, 03:03:19 PM

Just remembered that I have written the recovery seed phrase of my Electrum on a piece of paper somewhere in my place. I'm wondering what could go wrong since my place isn't too secured. How about trying to memorize it? Is it possible?

Would you try?
What are the benefits? ... and the setbacks.

Investing brings with it many responsibilities. One of these responsibilities is to protect and not lose recovery phrases. There are many methods for saving phrases, some are memorized, but I think this is risky because there is a possibility of forgetting. Some people keep their rescue statements in a safer place.

It is necessary to be careful about security because it is as important as the appreciation of the investment. If you decide to memorize, you should remember this; After a while, things that are not repeated can disappear from our memory.

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