Can You Memorize Your Recovery Phrase? - page 6.

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Quote from: Article4tip on June 14, 2024, 02:03:19 PM

Just remembered that I have written the recovery seed phrase of my Electrum on a piece of paper somewhere in my place. I'm wondering what could go wrong since my place isn't too secured. How about trying to memorize it? Is it possible?

Would you try?
What are the benefits? ... and the setbacks.

If your wallet's recovery phase is 12 words long, it won't be hard for you to remember, but if it's 24 words long, it might be hard for you to remember. But if you can remember and store important documents at the same time, it is more convenient because in case you lose your documents, your remembered password or recovery phase will help in recovering your wallet. But you should save the documents well and keep those documents in a safe place so that they cannot destroy your documents in natural calamities.

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Recovery phrase can be memorized but to be on a safe side, i don't think it's good at all. If you memories it how can you pass it on when you are no more, and the person you pass it on too memories it and can't recall it,that means your Bitcoin asset is gone ,or due to health issues and can't remember ,your assets will be lost forever. No matter how brilliant or wise you are ,it is you write down or engrave your seed phrase for future and safety purpose. If you are someone that does not talk took much , it's okay ,but for someone that talks a lot , it's not safe because you don't know when you will spill it out when in mist of your friends.
When moving out of the country, you could engrave it on a bracelet, write up on any clothe or foot wear you are wearing which will make the clothe looks like a designers outfit or even tattoo it on your skin because a lot of person will not reason such , they will be looking for paper write up.

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Quote from: Luizwalter Crypt on June 20, 2024, 02:48:13 PM

Quote from: Article4tip on June 14, 2024, 02:03:19 PM

Just remembered that I have written the recovery seed phrase of my Electrum on a piece of paper somewhere in my place. I'm wondering what could go wrong since my place isn't too secured. How about trying to memorize it? Is it possible?

Would you try?
What are the benefits? ... and the setbacks.

Even if am very good at memorizing stuff, I wouldn't try that with my seed phrases anyday. I rather save them with other multiple means that is after which I've written them on a hidden file.
However, it could have been more possible to memorize it if you were required to provide them when ever you log in to your account but in this case you only need them during re-registeration process which doesn't happen all the time sometimes not even in a year Interval.

Even myself wont really be that comfortable or even really that confident on just simply memorizing my phrase considering that it is really that having inside some coins which does have value.
On the moment that you would really be able to forget even a single word or two then say goodbye into your coins and this is something that we dont really like to happen.
This is why it would really be that recommended that you should really be having that multiple back ups on storing up your keys on which memorizing is something the most risky
rather than on putting up on a paper. There are really that indeed moments that you do forget stuffs and it would be that something that crucial on just simply memorizing your keys.

If you are really that confident with this method then go ahead and try it out but dont make yourself banging up your head into the wall into the time that you would be finding
yourself having that kind of situation which you have lost all of your coins because of such mistake.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on June 17, 2024, 09:58:39 AM

For me this would only make sense for a specific case of danger and for a specific period of time. Like you have to flee your country and maybe cross borders where you don't want them to find anything that could smell like bitcoin, like a HW or a paper with the seeds written on it. As a method of 'storing' the seeds for an indefinite period of time instead of having them hidden somewhere, there is too much danger of forgetting them, no matter how much memory you have.

Yeah, it's just going to be an option at the end of the day because it's fine to memorize but it doesn't mean that we have to save the seeds just by memorizing because that's definitely a bad situation because the risk is greater than if we save the seeds in writing.

If you really want to memorize the seeds that we have, it is not a mistake but of course the most important thing in this case is that we must still write down the seeds that we have as a form or conventional way to always be protected from forgetfulness of memorization.

We don't know what will happen when we only memorize the seeds without writing them down considering the vulnerability of forgetfulness is clearly very possible especially since we will also continue to grow older from year to year so that indeed memorizing alone without writing down any seeds is clearly very risky.

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Quote from: Article4tip on June 14, 2024, 02:03:19 PM

Just remembered that I have written the recovery seed phrase of my Electrum on a piece of paper somewhere in my place. I'm wondering what could go wrong since my place isn't too secured. How about trying to memorize it? Is it possible?

Would you try?
What are the benefits? ... and the setbacks.

Even if am very good at memorizing stuff, I wouldn't try that with my seed phrases anyday. I rather save them with other multiple means that is after which I've written them on a hidden file.
However, it could have been more possible to memorize it if you were required to provide them when ever you log in to your account but in this case you only need them during re-registeration process which doesn't happen all the time sometimes not even in a year Interval.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on June 17, 2024, 09:58:39 AM

For me this would only make sense for a specific case of danger and for a specific period of time. Like you have to flee your country and maybe cross borders where you don't want them to find anything that could smell like bitcoin, like a HW or a paper with the seeds written on it. As a method of 'storing' the seeds for an indefinite period of time instead of having them hidden somewhere, there is too much danger of forgetting them, no matter how much memory you have.

I can't even imagine myself memorizing my wallet seed phrase because I feel its not the right thing to do. For how long would I have keep that shit on my head. It is not really meant to be on our head but in a safe place for as long as possible. Anything can happen to us if we thinks we are good at memorizing words. There is nothing bad for us to keep such in our head but it is not meant to be there. Maybe we can keep it somewhere and likewise memorize it so that it can be in two places. Whatever way we intend to keep our seed phrase, it is better we keep it in a safe place so that we don't have to find it.

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Quote from: Nrcewker on June 20, 2024, 12:06:45 PM

Nothing is impossible, mate. If you really have a sharp brain, and if the recovery phrase is less in number, then yes, you can easily memorize it. But yes, for safety reasons, it’s better to write it down somewhere safe also. This is the human brain, and it is prone to diseases. Moreover, what we should avoid is storing it digitally. Yes, memorizing the recovery phrase has some advantages; you need not have to carry the hard copy always, but for certain people it’s not possible. Hence, memorizing it varies from person to person.

People can have a strong memory but not forever, someone can forget one wrong word and it will be fatal and your wallet will never be opened, especially this drafting problem will be difficult even though nothing is impossible, what if we forget our memory and what if we are old who is likely to forget quickly.

The best reason to take the safer path, yes why don't we just write it down and reserve other security just in case it is not lost or deleted or forgotten, because the seed phrase is as valuable as the assets we have in the wallet, so don't underestimate this because we can remember it today, there needs to be further action to anticipate.

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In the modern era, have many secure place for saving you recover phrase why need to memorize in our mind? Its stupid way for us when try memorize with seed phrase although its possible behind some seed phrase only 12 word but if any seed phrase reach above 24 word I believe its hard to memorize.
I scare when memorizing seed phrase and save it only in our mind get difficulty if bad accident happen to us how to talk to our family about seed phrase in our brain.

Better save seed phrase on notepad or some thing more secure place when unpredictable thing happen to us we can talking to our family with bitcoin assets, too risk only us memorizing seed phrase with potential who will recovery our wallet later if get bad accident to us actually with market condition on the higher price but our self get bad accident.

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Nothing is impossible, mate. If you really have a sharp brain, and if the recovery phrase is less in number, then yes, you can easily memorize it. But yes, for safety reasons, it’s better to write it down somewhere safe also. This is the human brain, and it is prone to diseases. Moreover, what we should avoid is storing it digitally. Yes, memorizing the recovery phrase has some advantages; you need not have to carry the hard copy always, but for certain people it’s not possible. Hence, memorizing it varies from person to person.

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Quote from: Gaza13 on June 20, 2024, 11:07:21 AM

Quote from: Vinaa77 on June 19, 2024, 07:41:22 PM

Indeed, it would be better if we wrote it down and kept it in a safe place, because by memorizing it we will not necessarily be able to remember it well and it could be that after memorizing it and rarely opening it, it is very likely that we will not be able to remember it well. I think it would be better if we wrote it down. and save it in the right way that we can easily remember and also have to tell people we really trust and it's better if we save it in several parts so that we can remember well where we keep the wallet key, because if we don't remember where we save it then the assets What we have collected will be lost along with the wallet key that we have saved.

Indeed, memorizing the initial sentence is not recommended in this case, this is carelessness for the person. Thinking about how to keep assets safe, there are many ways that people think about how to protect them, some write them down and then store them in a safe, there are also those who buy steel plates online and then string together some of the letters. into a sentence and then put it in a safe place to keep it. there are also who put it in email, meaning he created a new email without being contaminated with anything and then he linked it to 2fa. Yes, this depends on how the person uses it to protect their assets.

In my opinion, memorizing the seed phrase is not a bad idea because it has advantages such as we will never have to worry about others stealing it or being able to use it at any time. But we need to think about its downside: if our memory fails and it is the only backup, we will completely lose access to our bitcoins. It can be seen that this method has more disadvantages than advantages it brings, so it is really not recommended.

In general, each method will have advantages and disadvantages, so it wouldn't be bad if we combined 1 or 2 methods to achieve maximum effectiveness.

OP, why don't you try combining phrase memorization with one of the methods people have mentioned?

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Quote from: Vinaa77 on June 19, 2024, 07:41:22 PM

Indeed, it would be better if we wrote it down and kept it in a safe place, because by memorizing it we will not necessarily be able to remember it well and it could be that after memorizing it and rarely opening it, it is very likely that we will not be able to remember it well. I think it would be better if we wrote it down. and save it in the right way that we can easily remember and also have to tell people we really trust and it's better if we save it in several parts so that we can remember well where we keep the wallet key, because if we don't remember where we save it then the assets What we have collected will be lost along with the wallet key that we have saved.

Indeed, memorizing the initial sentence is not recommended in this case, this is carelessness for the person. Thinking about how to keep assets safe, there are many ways that people think about how to protect them, some write them down and then store them in a safe, there are also those who buy steel plates online and then string together some of the letters. into a sentence and then put it in a safe place to keep it. there are also who put it in email, meaning he created a new email without being contaminated with anything and then he linked it to 2fa. Yes, this depends on how the person uses it to protect their assets.

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Quote from: Fiasem20 on June 17, 2024, 04:19:50 PM

Memorizing your seed phrase is absolutely an uncalculated risk.Seed phrase are to be written on several pieces of paper or encrypted on a steel and kept in a safe place.What do you think should be the essence why crypto wallets generate seed phrase,the reason is seed phrase that is also known as recovery phrase are mixed words it could be 12 or 24, they are used to recover wallet in case a user lose hold of his/her digital asset and crypto wallet.The best way to store your seed phrase is by keeping it safe offline(on a paper)and not online.Memorizing your seed phrase is nothing but stressing the brain that's meant to store other vital informations.

Yeah, and even if we can memorized it, sooner or later it will fail us as our brain might go hiccup and forget that one word and then it screw everything up for us. That's why this is not recommended, although I have nothing against those who try to practice it, but there is no fail-safe here.

So just write it down your mnemonic phrase and then hide or or protect it at all cost. And try to spread it, could be in your house, or even in a safety deposit box in a bank. And probably majority will agree to me that this is a very bad idea specially if you don't have a back up and just trying to put everything in your mind.

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Quote from: Fiasem20 on June 17, 2024, 04:19:50 PM

Memorizing your seed phrase is absolutely an uncalculated risk.Seed phrase are to be written on several pieces of paper or encrypted on a steel and kept in a safe place.What do you think should be the essence why crypto wallets generate seed phrase,the reason is seed phrase that is also known as recovery phrase are mixed words it could be 12 or 24, they are used to recover wallet in case a user lose hold of his/her digital asset and crypto wallet.The best way to store your seed phrase is by keeping it safe offline(on a paper)and not online.Memorizing your seed phrase is nothing but stressing the brain that's meant to store other vital informations.

Indeed, it would be better if we wrote it down and kept it in a safe place, because by memorizing it we will not necessarily be able to remember it well and it could be that after memorizing it and rarely opening it, it is very likely that we will not be able to remember it well. I think it would be better if we wrote it down. and save it in the right way that we can easily remember and also have to tell people we really trust and it's better if we save it in several parts so that we can remember well where we keep the wallet key, because if we don't remember where we save it then the assets What we have collected will be lost along with the wallet key that we have saved.

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Quote from: Article4tip on June 14, 2024, 02:03:19 PM

Just remembered that I have written the recovery seed phrase of my Electrum on a piece of paper somewhere in my place. I'm wondering what could go wrong since my place isn't too secured. How about trying to memorize it? Is it possible?

Would you try?
What are the benefits? ... and the setbacks.

Investing brings with it many responsibilities. One of these responsibilities is to protect and not lose recovery phrases. There are many methods for saving phrases, some are memorized, but I think this is risky because there is a possibility of forgetting. Some people keep their rescue statements in a safer place.

It is necessary to be careful about security because it is as important as the appreciation of the investment. If you decide to memorize, you should remember this; After a while, things that are not repeated can disappear from our memory.

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Memorizing your seed phrase is absolutely an uncalculated risk.Seed phrase are to be written on several pieces of paper or encrypted on a steel and kept in a safe place.What do you think should be the essence why crypto wallets generate seed phrase,the reason is seed phrase that is also known as recovery phrase are mixed words it could be 12 or 24, they are used to recover wallet in case a user lose hold of his/her digital asset and crypto wallet.The best way to store your seed phrase is by keeping it safe offline(on a paper)and not online.Memorizing your seed phrase is nothing but stressing the brain that's meant to store other vital informations.

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Quote from: coolcoinz on June 17, 2024, 02:54:00 PM

Yes, I can do that, but I won't.

You always have to decide whether something is worth the time, the risk, the money invested.
You could technically get double doors to your apartment and lock each of them with 3 independent locks, but is it worth the time and money? Probably not.

It's the same with remembering a pass phrase. You can keep it engraved on a metal plate and it will never be destroyed and very hard to lose, especially if you put it somewhere really safe like under the floor board, or in a security safe.

Yes, everyone could memorize but not all would really be that good when it comes on remembering on which there would really be those individual that after they had put up into their minds but several hours or even on days they would really be able to forget. Impossible? No its not. This is why if you cant be able to trust up your memory specially if its a wallet that would be hold up for long term then it would be better that you should really be sticking into those good alternative methods on which same as you had mentioned on here that metal plate is something that more considerable but of course you would really be still needing up to consider on taking it away into other peoples awareness which it would really be just that a normal thing to be done.

If you are really that confident with your memory then go ahead but if its not then it would really be better not to do it because it will really be just giving out that very high chance
that you would really be able to forget those phrases on which we know on whats the risks on losing on here on which it is something that has value or simply money.

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Yes, I can do that, but I won't.

You always have to decide whether something is worth the time, the risk, the money invested.
You could technically get double doors to your apartment and lock each of them with 3 independent locks, but is it worth the time and money? Probably not.

It's the same with remembering a pass phrase. You can keep it engraved on a metal plate and it will never be destroyed and very hard to lose, especially if you put it somewhere really safe like under the floor board, or in a security safe.

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Quote from: Article4tip on June 14, 2024, 02:03:19 PM

Just remembered that I have written the recovery seed phrase of my Electrum on a piece of paper somewhere in my place. I'm wondering what could go wrong since my place isn't too secured. How about trying to memorize it? Is it possible?

Would you try?
What are the benefits? ... and the setbacks.

I guess you can memorize your recovery phrase since it only consist of 12 - 24 words. If you are feeling threatened with your environment not being safe, I think you should try to memorize it and engrave it to your mind. One downside here is when you forgot or jumbled with words in your mind, it will be a disaster. if I am in your situation, I would still make a back up and store it to somewhere unexpected, on somewhere in your place that no one knows about crypto.

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It looks very difficult if you think about it superficially, how to remember a recovery phrase with 12/24 words, But it is still possible to remember the phrase quite well.

You can use the Mnemonic method such as the Chunking technique by grouping phrase words into parts, so it will be easy to remember.
And also uses the Loci Method to mark each word with an image so that each word will have its own visual as a marker.

I once did a memory trick like this when playing Rubik's with my eyes closed.
All steps are memorized, and each number symbol will indicate every move to be performed.

Using Chungkin's memory trick and developed by visualizing each group of words with a familiar image or place using the Loci method

Examples of 12-word recovery phrases
"1.Witch 2.Collapse 3.Practice 4.Feed 5.Shame 6.Open 7.Despair 8.Creek 9.Road 10.Again 11.Ice 12.least"

I group them into 3 Parts
Part 1. "witch collapse practice feed"
Part 2. "Shame Open Despair Creek"
Part 3. "Road Again Ice least"

Each word has an image or place, and each section will be converted into a sentence that is quite easy to hear.
So there will be a sentence that is generated from each part that shows the true meaning of the initial phrase of the restoration.

It is quite difficult, and this will depend on how strong your memory is to remember in the long run.
Because I myself use this trick to play rubik with my eyes closed for a period of about 5–10 minutes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_loci
https://www.mindtools.com/a8u1mqw/chunking

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Am going to speak freely and say that some of us stopped at memorizing the names of the them, nine planets, before we knew it and while some have exhibited great prowess in memorizing great speeches and essays, it is very possible to memorize your sees phrases if you think that's the best way to keep your wallet safe and prosperous.

One of the reasons why it is recommended to keep it or etch it or write it sometimes is safer, is due to the ability of some investors and traders to own multiple wallets, both online and offline wallets for their personal benefits, otherwise, it is very possible to memorize your recovery phrases and be safer than most.

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