Topic: Can you trust a gambler with your money/savings? - page 2. (Read 1504 times)
This story is similar to what I have personally experienced some time ago when I bought a cap for a driver of a taxi and the guy sold my car and gambled with the money without my knowledge. I arrested the driver thereafter but the case has been charged to Court for criminal activity.
Well, at the end of day it depends on how good or bad gambler person is. Personality makes big role in this discussion and not all employees have same mental health to think rational due to nature of gambling. Someone can run away with my hard earned money after gaining my trust while someone else can use it for personal life without bad purposes. Even if person wanna gamble and ask loan to fund his casino bankroll, I will trust his experience and share with him amount that I can afford to lose.
The truth about this is, its sure to vary per individual. Yeah, it's very difficult to trust anyone, not to even mention a gambler and not just any gambler but an addicted one for that matter to be in charge of your money. Any mistake and yiu can loose all but, its individual based. There are those that see someone else's money as being just that and defines a fine line between themselves and that money and do the most not to cross it. Even in hardship, they dare not see it for a chance to make money off what was put in there care for safe keeping because they have imagined the worst and won't wish to risk it. These sort of individuals once found, there is a greater tendency of entrusting them with your money. 
True life Story.
A friend i know recently narrated to me how his business almost collapsed due to trust he had for another of his friends who he thought he was helping by recruiting him to manage one of his Retail outlets. He narrated how having put him in charge of that point started observing a decrease in the the profit from there intended for savings and reinvestment. He confronted him severally to know what the problem was, but his friend attributed it to being ill and needing drugs, until one faithful day when he ran into him in a betting shop during working hours betting on virtual football games, how disappointing!
Questions for discussion
- Are gamblers eligible to hold financial positions?
- Do problem gamblers deserve a second chance to hold a financial position?
Look, I confess this is a complicated and disappointing case.A friend i know recently narrated to me how his business almost collapsed due to trust he had for another of his friends who he thought he was helping by recruiting him to manage one of his Retail outlets. He narrated how having put him in charge of that point started observing a decrease in the the profit from there intended for savings and reinvestment. He confronted him severally to know what the problem was, but his friend attributed it to being ill and needing drugs, until one faithful day when he ran into him in a betting shop during working hours betting on virtual football games, how disappointing!
Questions for discussion
- Are gamblers eligible to hold financial positions?
- Do problem gamblers deserve a second chance to hold a financial position?
Unfortunately, depending on the situation, it is necessary to be cautious when it involves money... Even more if the person/employee is a gambler or perhaps a gambling addict.
It is a delicate and isolated situation to resolve.
- Are gamblers eligible to hold financial positions?
Regular gamblers, yes. Problem gamblers, no. And not only because a company's money are at risk, but because giving money to gamling addicts can aggravate their problem.
- Do problem gamblers deserve a second chance to hold a financial position?
Absolutely. Gambling addiction is treatable. I personally know a guy healed from it several years ago, who've never had any issues since.
Identifying problem gamblers however is hard, you can never tell a guy have a gambling problem until you learn its too late. Unless you live with him in the same house. Problem gamblers hide the vice to a long time, you will only learn they've got this problem when its pretty obvious already which he is selling his watch, car or properties which is worse.
I think he will have to experience the great loss first before learning to accept, treated to get healed.
that you would really be having those kind doubts whenever you do know that someone is really dealing up with gambling.I know that we are just too judgemental but it cant really be avoided since our instincts do tell us on what would be the probabilities of things to happen considering that you do know that someone is really dealing up with gambling which means that tendency or chances could happen and thats something
that you do really want to happen.I know that its a bit harsh or not to ethical on accusing someone or making out conclusions but i could really say that its really hard not to mind off if you do know something.
First of all, I don't think Bitcoiners are trusting people imo, we use a digital currency because we don't trust the traditional system. We don't trust crypto exchanges to store our crypto so we use wallets we have full control. Back to topic, It's really easy to trust anyone with money these days, it makes it more easy for me when the person has a history of gambling problems and unpaid debts. That's a red flag. I wouldn't put in a position where they can take advantage of me.
If the business processes in the company are properly debugged, then the employee simply does not have a chance to steal funds regularly and without consequences, therefore, in my opinion, in such cases it is possible to hire gamblers and drug addicts and other categories of employees who are rated as risky. The problem that is raised in the first post is trust between friends - if you trust a friend so much that you don't control him if he is your employee then be prepared for the fact that he will deceive you.
I would not trust anyone with bad finances. If you want to test a person - see how he deals in the finances. If the person is not good in dealing with finances - this means he is not trustworthy.
Your actions seem reasonable, but they are deeply flawed. In order not to be deceived, you must avoid opportunities where you can be deceived. All external signs do not matter. If you study the history of scammers (the most famous or the average ones) you will see that they radiated reliability and showed signs of a "worthy and trustworthy" partner. And they used that trust to their advantage.
Quite frankly, and don't think this the wrong way. I wouldn't trust any of you with my money, and neither should you trust me. If you have to trust someone with money, make sure it's as small of an amount as possible. Hence why normally there are trustee's in businesses, and any one holding money for the business or whatever, doesn't have access to all the funds, but a share of it.
Perfectly said! I was swindled by my trusted friend (known him since high school) when he offered me to invest in his business. I rejected the offer instead I lent him the needed money without any interest and told him that I will get it back after 2 years. Two years came and I talk to him about getting my money back. He promised to pay it in parts. Another 2 years passed, the money was not returned and I was put on ignore. I lost around $8k interacting with this guy's business.
The point here is that it doesn't need for a person to be a compulsive gambler to rekt someone. Anyone can steal and cheat us but I don't agree about judging people that they will do bad things because they are a gambler since we do not know what kind of people these gamblers are.
What a sad story you had with your friend Sir, Nowadays, it is really hard to give our trust to someone, especially if the person itself is a gambler.
Even you know the person, still hard to trust especially if the money is involved. Though, I am not saying all the gamblers are not trustworthy, of course not, that's not what I'm trying to say, maybe you can give a trust if the person/gamblers you know Him/Her well I guess, at least with that you have a guarantee anyhow to get your money back again.
Why of all people in the world we are talking about gambler to be entrusting our money ?
Of course the answer is NO, there are many people that i can entrust my money but not with a desperate person(desperate because this i can call a serious gambler, desperate to become millionaire)
and also I am not a type of person that will let my money into others hand because I know that i can make my own for long term .
I wonder why one would think of trusting a gambler if he will temper with the money that he is in charge of. It is as keeping a fish with a cat and still not sure if the cat will eat the fish. When it comes to money a desperate gambler can not be trusted because gambling is a strong addiction that a desperate gambler can be tempted to use the money to play gamble if their is no other way to get money. Of course the answer is NO, there are many people that i can entrust my money but not with a desperate person(desperate because this i can call a serious gambler, desperate to become millionaire)
and also I am not a type of person that will let my money into others hand because I know that i can make my own for long term .
Quite frankly, and don't think this the wrong way. I wouldn't trust any of you with my money, and neither should you trust me. If you have to trust someone with money, make sure it's as small of an amount as possible. Hence why normally there are trustee's in businesses, and any one holding money for the business or whatever, doesn't have access to all the funds, but a share of it.
Perfectly said! I was swindled by my trusted friend (known him since high school) when he offered me to invest in his business. I rejected the offer instead I lent him the needed money without any interest and told him that I will get it back after 2 years. Two years came and I talk to him about getting my money back. He promised to pay it in parts. Another 2 years passed, the money was not returned and I was put on ignore. I lost around $8k interacting with this guy's business.
The point here is that it doesn't need for a person to be a compulsive gambler to rekt someone. Anyone can steal and cheat us but I don't agree about judging people that they will do bad things because they are a gambler since we do not know what kind of people these gamblers are.
What a sad story you had with your friend Sir, Nowadays, it is really hard to give our trust to someone, especially if the person itself is a gambler.
Even you know the person, still hard to trust especially if the money is involved. Though, I am not saying all the gamblers are not trustworthy, of course not, that's not what I'm trying to say, maybe you can give a trust if the person/gamblers you know Him/Her well I guess, at least with that you have a guarantee anyhow to get your money back again.
- Are gamblers eligible to hold financial positions?
Regular gamblers, yes. Problem gamblers, no. And not only because a company's money are at risk, but because giving money to gamling addicts can aggravate their problem.
- Do problem gamblers deserve a second chance to hold a financial position?
Absolutely. Gambling addiction is treatable. I personally know a guy healed from it several years ago, who've never had any issues since.
Identifying problem gamblers however is hard, you can never tell a guy have a gambling problem until you learn its too late. Unless you live with him in the same house. Problem gamblers hide the vice to a long time, you will only learn they've got this problem when its pretty obvious already which he is selling his watch, car or properties which is worse.
I think he will have to experience the great loss first before learning to accept, treated to get healed.
- Are gamblers eligible to hold financial positions?
Regular gamblers, yes. Problem gamblers, no. And not only because a company's money are at risk, but because giving money to gamling addicts can aggravate their problem.It is all matter of financial position which regular gamblers will turn to problem gamblers when they don't have enough money to gamble.
So why you will trust your money to someone else in the first place, it should be always capable to handle the money. Think it always that money is a precious thing on earth and everyone will surely be tempted to spend if there is money on their hand.
However, this could depend on you if how you will know personally the one who you will entrust your money.
- Are gamblers eligible to hold financial positions?
Regular gamblers, yes. Problem gamblers, no. And not only because a company's money are at risk, but because giving money to gamling addicts can aggravate their problem.
- Do problem gamblers deserve a second chance to hold a financial position?
Absolutely. Gambling addiction is treatable. I personally know a guy healed from it several years ago, who've never had any issues since.
Why of all people in the world we are talking about gambler to be entrusting our money ?
Of course the answer is NO, there are many people that i can entrust my money but not with a desperate person(desperate because this i can call a serious gambler, desperate to become millionaire)
and also I am not a type of person that will let my money into others hand because I know that i can make my own for long term .
there is a saying that says "our hair is same black, but heart who knows?"Of course the answer is NO, there are many people that i can entrust my money but not with a desperate person(desperate because this i can call a serious gambler, desperate to become millionaire)
and also I am not a type of person that will let my money into others hand because I know that i can make my own for long term .
everyone (not just you but me too) must have been disappointed by other people, when it comes to money and it makes me no longer able to entrust my money 100% to other people, this has become a trauma, it's better to manage our own finances than be disappointed again
Nothing is passed on to an addicted and stupid gambler. No need for a second chance. As for financial positions, if you don't take these things seriously, you will go bankrupt. This is no child's play. You should think twice before doing business with people you love and trust. Just because you love him, you shouldn't have him follow up on the job. Business is one thing, friendship is another.
I think everyone deserves a second chance and we all have our way of determining if they're trustworthy with our money or not. Honestly, on me, I wouldn't give them my trust 100% and wholly if they're still addicted. But if seen that they've changed for a long time and they're trying their best to remove and have an abstained attachment to gambling, I think they deserve to have a second chance but as I've said, we all my choice, we all depend on whom we're going to trust.I also think that everyone deserves a second chance but that second chance is only awarded to persons who have repented sincerely and are rehabilitated from a long time.For such kind of persons I may think that I can entrust some money but not all the money,I can test this person a couple of times and if he is correct then not likely but I may entrust him a bigger amount of money.No other person except this type deserves a second chance as we know that if he has not repented he will keep doing what he did before.
Why of all people in the world we are talking about gambler to be entrusting our money ?
Of course the answer is NO, there are many people that i can entrust my money but not with a desperate person(desperate because this i can call a serious gambler, desperate to become millionaire)
and also I am not a type of person that will let my money into others hand because I know that i can make my own for long term .
I wonder why one would think of trusting a gambler if he will temper with the money that he is in charge of. It is as keeping a fish with a cat and still not sure if the cat will eat the fish. When it comes to money a desperate gambler can not be trusted because gambling is a strong addiction that a desperate gambler can be tempted to use the money to play gamble if their is no other way to get money. Of course the answer is NO, there are many people that i can entrust my money but not with a desperate person(desperate because this i can call a serious gambler, desperate to become millionaire)
and also I am not a type of person that will let my money into others hand because I know that i can make my own for long term .
Why of all people in the world we are talking about gambler to be entrusting our money ?
Of course the answer is NO, there are many people that i can entrust my money but not with a desperate person(desperate because this i can call a serious gambler, desperate to become millionaire)
and also I am not a type of person that will let my money into others hand because I know that i can make my own for long term .
Of course the answer is NO, there are many people that i can entrust my money but not with a desperate person(desperate because this i can call a serious gambler, desperate to become millionaire)
and also I am not a type of person that will let my money into others hand because I know that i can make my own for long term .
- Are gamblers eligible to hold financial positions?
It depends. There are gamblers who can control themselves and knows their limit. Yes if you're a kind of gambler who have discipline and you know when to stop and that includes not using the money that is not your own. But if we based it in your friend's story and similar cases then No.- Do problem gamblers deserve a second chance to hold a financial position?
Addicted gamblers deserves a second chance if you see that he/she truly change. However, to not repeat the same mistakes again its better not to entrust a financial position to a gambler who has history of being addicted. Questions for discussion
- Are gamblers eligible to hold financial positions?
- Do problem gamblers deserve a second chance to hold a financial position?
2.) Yes of course, as long as they have overcome their problems and are confident that they can handle that position again but you better not entrust them most of your wealth. We still need to observe things first.
Your friend did a good job there of helping his other friend. Maybe he also sees how hard the life of is friend was but the only problem is his friend which he abused the help given to him but I think now I know why he had a poor life and that may be because he wasted all of his money in drugs and gambling. It is important to know the background of the person first before we hire them on our business especially if they will handle money because maybe they have a past record of stealing. There's no excuse even if you say that you know the person or it was your friend.
I knew a Chinese trader who lost his daily receipts and then divorced his wife and flew back to China from Europe.
That is the worst thing could happen to me to lose everything and even my wife(family) because of gambling , I am very proud and happy because even though I once turn into addicted gambler yet I manage to maintain my family and keeps my Wife holding till now that i am completely relieved and healed from that nightmare.Maybe if we are going to engage in gambling best that we must understand what we are entering and which way we are heading because one single mistake will end up everything that we use to gather for long years.
I would not trust anyone with bad finances.
If you want to test a person - see how he deals in the finances. If the person is not good in dealing with finances - this means he is not trustworthy.
Yeah because if you do then expect everything will be on your losses because gamblers are literally uncontrollable and can end up losing yours as well.
True life Story.
A friend i know recently narrated to me how his business almost collapsed due to trust he had for another of his friends who he thought he was helping by recruiting him to manage one of his Retail outlets. He narrated how having put him in charge of that point started observing a decrease in the the profit from there intended for savings and reinvestment. He confronted him severally to know what the problem was, but his friend attributed it to being ill and needing drugs, until one faithful day when he ran into him in a betting shop during working hours betting on virtual football games, how disappointing!
Questions for discussion
- Are gamblers eligible to hold financial positions?
- Do problem gamblers deserve a second chance to hold a financial position?
I don't have ideas why many people still believing trust gambler about their money saving, not only with gambling but also I don't trust with trade by other hand. I think need to stop put your money for the other and handle for gambling, not have skill or how your knowledge about gambling and never give guarantee always win. Better if you want to bet do by your self and never trust any one else how expert them on casino gambling. They can't bring you with the winning always and have chance for losing your money without trust with them. Right now many company try to give service how they can give you promised with several percent profit by give them capital to bet, but at the end you don't get back your money again. A friend i know recently narrated to me how his business almost collapsed due to trust he had for another of his friends who he thought he was helping by recruiting him to manage one of his Retail outlets. He narrated how having put him in charge of that point started observing a decrease in the the profit from there intended for savings and reinvestment. He confronted him severally to know what the problem was, but his friend attributed it to being ill and needing drugs, until one faithful day when he ran into him in a betting shop during working hours betting on virtual football games, how disappointing!
Questions for discussion
- Are gamblers eligible to hold financial positions?
- Do problem gamblers deserve a second chance to hold a financial position?
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