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legendary
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In our world today, when we hear about gambling, we tend to see it yo be a vice and not of any moral standard. In fact, being a gambler almost make you look like a criminal in the eyes of some and I tell us right now, that gambling is not a crime. Perhaps it's got people into more shit than they could handle today and when not properly managed has stirred up some crime but gambling in itself is no vice.

Hence, when it comes to letting a gambler handle my money, I ask why the hell not. This gambler might be an addictive gambler but could have moral backings enough not to tamper with some one else's money. Some gamblers can handle themselves that much and when they do, you can trust them not to gamble on your funds. If it is otherwise, then you've got reasons to be scared.
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That's right, we should never entrust money to gamblers, because there is a possibility that our money can be used for gambling. Not everyone is like that, we all agree. But, personally, even though he is family, if he is a gambler, I will be less sure to entrust my money to him. Unless he really intends to borrow money, as long as that person has responsibility, it doesn't matter even if he is a gambler.

To be a gambler is not really bad but some people are addicted to gambling, they use everything they earn to gamble thinking they are going to make huge amount back, at the end they always end up losing their money and whenever they win, if you calculate the money they have lost, you will end up seeing that the amount they win is not even upto the amount they have lost. Have seen some gamblers selling their properties just because they want to gamble which if very bad.
I think whenever we want to employ anybody to manage our business, we should make sure we check the persons behavior and we should be sure the d person is not addicted to gambling.
legendary
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My principle is that gambling is high risk, so I have to be able to control myself with what is called finance.
• is it my savings money or i want to dream to have a second chance to win and have money.

- Are gamblers eligible to hold financial positions?
For me, gambling does not have a requirement to be categorized as a position in terms of finance, capital, paying for expenses, income, the language is generally a balance.
gambling is not a good idea for that, what else to take savings to bet on gambling, bonuses, other money, besides saving my idea to gamble.

- Do problem gamblers deserve a second chance to hold a financial position?
Clearly problematic, who guarantees you a second chance to win, what if you lose with your savings or loan, capital is spent in gambling, of course you will have big problems with your family or other parties, if you borrow it.

Using money earned for free for gambling great idea, you have no real problem, if you lose win one luck for you.
sr. member
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gambling is not psychological disorder because it is a competition that earns money which whenever it happens money involved so I would like to say that addiction of alcohol will contribute to psychological disorder why addition in Ros can also contribute for psychological disorder because the function is limited like function of gambling gambling is just to a process of getting money from another person due to arguments and prove so I don't think that it can cause disorder but it will make you to lose whatever thing you have if you are totally addicted to it.
Gambling IS a psychological disorder, but it's not only that. It's like a mashed up ball of mental, emotional and social stress. They're almost always together or rather very similar to SUDs mostly because the symptoms of not being able to stop is always felt. In this case though, instead of intakes, it's more like your brain itself makes you want to gamble more.
do you know the area you comprehend or you understand  that is gambling is a psychological disorder, it is the area that you continue playing game and continue losing game so at times,it will make you to feel emotional because of excess of losing without gaining but if you're playing and you're gaining nothing will make you to feel depression and gambling and nothing will make your mentality to change. People I noticed that have mentally disorder through gambling is people that don't know the principles of gambling, myself I see got money as a source of looking for money and also any money so I can't classify it as alcohol function or reaction in the body that can contribute a mental disorder. When you are addicted to gambling it is a different thing because it seems that you have it as a hobby
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Questions for discussion
- Are gamblers eligible to hold financial positions?

This highly depends on the person you are dealing on if you know them personally or if you have developed a long-lasting relationship with him/her. But as a general rule, it is better to avoid a situation where there is a risk of your funds losing on the hands of a gambler as they can be erratic when it comes to decision-making.

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- Do problem gamblers deserve a second chance to hold a financial position?

As a general rule, everyone deserves a second chance in the event that they do something wrong. But in order to gain back such trust, this would require tremendous effort and patience since establishing a fiduciary relationship with this person may take a relatively long amount of time. Most probably, the person keeping the funds would just deposit the money to the bank rather than letting a gambler take hold of their resources.
legendary
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gambling is not psychological disorder because it is a competition that earns money which whenever it happens money involved so I would like to say that addiction of alcohol will contribute to psychological disorder why addition in Ros can also contribute for psychological disorder because the function is limited like function of gambling gambling is just to a process of getting money from another person due to arguments and prove so I don't think that it can cause disorder but it will make you to lose whatever thing you have if you are totally addicted to it.
GamblingCompulsibe gambling or gambling disorder IS a psychological disorder, but it's not only that. It's like a mashed up ball of mental, emotional and social stress. They're almost always together or rather very similar to SUDs mostly because the symptoms of not being able to stop is always felt. In this case though, instead of intakes, it's more like your brain itself makes you want to gamble more.

Lol let us take a look at the definition of gambling.

I feel like this question is impossible to answer like many similar ones. For instance, can you trust a former convict, can you trust a drug addict, can you trust a former thief, can you trust your former girlfriend who cheated on you...?
Some will still be stealing and cheating, some will not. A thief who stole once doesn't have to be a thief all his life. People change. A gambler can still be a good worker, or he can be stealing from his boss, you can never know for sure.

Gambling isn't a crime, so being a gambler should not fall under criminals.  It is sad to think that many see the term gambling/gambler as negative criterion. 
legendary
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I feel like this question is impossible to answer like many similar ones. For instance, can you trust a former convict, can you trust a drug addict, can you trust a former thief, can you trust your former girlfriend who cheated on you...?
Some will still be stealing and cheating, some will not. A thief who stole once doesn't have to be a thief all his life. People change. A gambler can still be a good worker, or he can be stealing from his boss, you can never know for sure.
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gambling is not psychological disorder because it is a competition that earns money which whenever it happens money involved so I would like to say that addiction of alcohol will contribute to psychological disorder why addition in Ros can also contribute for psychological disorder because the function is limited like function of gambling gambling is just to a process of getting money from another person due to arguments and prove so I don't think that it can cause disorder but it will make you to lose whatever thing you have if you are totally addicted to it.
Compulsive* Gambling IS a psychological disorder, but it's not only that. It's like a mashed up ball of mental, emotional and social stress. They're almost always together or rather very similar to SUDs mostly because the symptoms of not being able to stop is always felt. In this case though, instead of intakes, it's more like your brain itself makes you want to gamble more.

Edit: I meant compulsive, thanks to @lionheart78
sr. member
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If a person has any kind of addiction, whether it's drugs, alcohol or gambling, he cannot be trusted at all... It's a psychological disorder, and it's a long time since the nice guy you knew before... All the more reason not to trust such a person with money or valuables... There have already been many examples of people degraded by bad habits...
gambling is not psychological disorder because it is a competition that earns money which whenever it happens money involved so I would like to say that addiction of alcohol will contribute to psychological disorder why addition in Ros can also contribute for psychological disorder because the function is limited like function of gambling gambling is just to a process of getting money from another person due to arguments and prove so I don't think that it can cause disorder but it will make you to lose whatever thing you have if you are totally addicted to it.
hero member
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If a person has any kind of addiction, whether it's drugs, alcohol or gambling, he cannot be trusted at all... It's a psychological disorder, and it's a long time since the nice guy you knew before... All the more reason not to trust such a person with money or valuables... There have already been many examples of people degraded by bad habits...
your opinion is very true. because bad habits will involve the surrounding environment. if it's possible that the trusted person hasn't done anything wrong by now. it could happen in the future.
it would be better if we avoid the obvious risks that might happen to our business. even though it was a person we knew well back then. and it turns out we don't know his personality very well.
legendary
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Questions for discussion
- Are gamblers eligible to hold financial positions?
- Do problem gamblers deserve a second chance to hold a financial position?
  • Of course, but if he really manages to recover from his addiction and uncontrollable behavior towards gambling.
  • I think he deserves it, but make sure he really gets out of his way. At least you should know that he has passed the first point.

It is very unethical to judge a gambler who is fully aware of his bad habits and starts changing his habits for good without being touched by gambling again. This is highly discouraged, but you just have to worry if he doesn't really change which means he pretends to change just to gain your trust again while he's still doing it behind your back. Sinners are those who make mistakes, but when they repent then God will forgive them. Then why not with you?

legendary
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Questions for discussion
- Are gamblers eligible to hold financial positions?

There are conditions for a gambler to be eligible to hold a financial position and two of the very important things are honesty and self-respect.  If a gambler is honest and have absolute self-respect, I don't mind entrusting him all my fortunes.  So yes gamblers who are honest and have self-respect will always be eligible to hold financial positions.


- Do problem gamblers deserve a second chance to hold a financial position?

Definitely not.  Problem gamblers have a high possibility of embezzling funds.  I don't want to get a rock just to hit my head.
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If a person has any kind of addiction, whether it's drugs, alcohol or gambling, he cannot be trusted at all... It's a psychological disorder, and it's a long time since the nice guy you knew before... All the more reason not to trust such a person with money or valuables... There have already been many examples of people degraded by bad habits...
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Completely depends on his stats and reputation with the money. I used to finance a couple of poker players to play in the tourneys that they couldnt afford otherwise and have given money to a friend for gambling. I'd consider both as gambling but I do get something in return if they win. So, basically I'm gambling on gamblers.  
I've known a friend who does this. Asks for money from what he calls "investors" that will finance his poker journey with that starting amount who are willing to give him money.
I think this is totally a gamble on your side that you let them gamble with your money but the thing is, you're aware of the possible outcome whether it will be positive or negative. For me, I won't be trusting a person with my money if the same as the example of OP.
Like I mentioned earlier, reputation and statistics on how a person has done in the past while gambling is key. If the person lacks discipline and is a problem gambler. I'm definitely not trusting them with my hard earned money. If he was my business partner, I'd definitely not want them to lie to me about the financial decisions they are making using company funds(in case of OP). Transparency is key when it comes to money and investments.  

Gambling is an addiction just like the other common ones like alcoholism. It can be cured if taken proper care of. I don't mind trusting an ex gambling addict with my money, provided they are transparent on the decisions they are making with my money.
Right, everything must be transparent and the standard that you have will still be there before you agree that you'll allow them to borrow your money for them to gamble.
That's fair on your side and once those people whom you trusted started to make a lie to you, well, that's a goodbye to them and it will never happen again.
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- Are gamblers eligible to hold financial positions?
Depends, but mostly no. If the gambler is able to maintain his financial situation as well as control his gambling activity and profession. Also, I can only trust my gambler with my limited funds depending on there financial situation.
- Do problem gamblers deserve a second chance to hold a financial position?
On this case, I would probably say no as well as it'll be harder to trust them if they previously had an issue or problem with their gambling activities.
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We all know how gamblers handle their own funds. They could risk even their assets just to pursue gambling especially if they haven't reached their target goal. What more if they will handle the funds that aren't theirs? There's still a possibility that they will also touch and spend it because of their urge to gamble. I'm not saying that all gamblers aren't trustworthy but some gamblers could have money issues especially those who are really hooked on gambling.

I highly disagree, being a gambler does not mean he will risk everything.  I think most of us are mistaking something here.  Let me remind us that gambler is very different from compulsive gambler.  if a person has no gambling disorder, I believe he is in a sane mind to forbid himself from stealing or creating things that will cause him a problem.  Now if we are to follow your understanding about gamblers then almost all of us here are doing that bad thing?  I don't think that is true.

Kindly see the difference:

Gambler definition
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[gam·bler
/ˈɡamblər/
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noun
a person who gambles.

Compulsive Gambler definition
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Compulsive gamblers have lost control over their gambling. For them, gambling is the most important thing in their lives. Compulsive gambling is a progressive addiction that harms every aspect of the gambler's life. As they continue to gamble, their families, friends and employers are negatively affected. In addition, compulsive gamblers may engage in activities ­ such as stealing, lying or embezzling ­ which go against their moral standards. Compulsive gamblers cannot stop gambling, no matter how much they want to or how hard they try.
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It's a no for me because based on my experience, gamblers are closer to temptations when it comes to handling funds that they don't own. My father has entrusted his small business to his brother who was a gambling addict before but our small business fell into bankruptcy because my uncle used our business earnings for gambling. If there are other people that we can entrust our funds with, it should not be to a gambler.
sr. member
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Every person who involves gambling are need to be trusted but you need to be careful because we all know that once a gambler  it's hard to say that you will be trusted enough for my money if I gave it to you because when you are a gambler you can not control your self to avoid or fight your greediness cause once its happen greed will control your self then you will tempt to use your money when if that money is not yours so for me its better to be careful than you loss everything.
hero member
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We all know how gamblers handle their own funds. They could risk even their assets just to pursue gambling especially if they haven't reached their target goal. What more if they will handle the funds that aren't theirs? There's still a possibility that they will also touch and spend it because of their urge to gamble. I'm not saying that all gamblers aren't trustworthy but some gamblers could have money issues especially those who are really hooked on gambling.
legendary
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hmph..
I think it’s really a bad idea leaving a gambler with money, I can say their are some responsible gambler which won’t gamble with their may money, they gamble with extral fund they are having, why their are some gamblers that are addicted to gambling, those once can do anything to make money that they will use to gamble, they can even still just to gamble, you are even lucky only your profit is reducing he didn’t touch the main capital. My advise is not to trust any gambler, don’t put them in financial position because you won’t really know the one that is addicted to gambling.

That's right, we should never entrust money to gamblers, because there is a possibility that our money can be used for gambling. Not everyone is like that, we all agree. But, personally, even though he is family, if he is a gambler, I will be less sure to entrust my money to him. Unless he really intends to borrow money, as long as that person has responsibility, it doesn't matter even if he is a gambler.
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