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Didn't expect for Casimero to get the match and defend his title, a lot of people don't seem to agree and is hating on Casimero for winning but I saw his performance and I feel like he deserves the win no matter what.

The majority of the fans believe that Casimero won the fight, there's a lot of youtube videos on the highlights of the fight, all you can read is that Rigo is boring, he is a runner or he is fully condition in running, there's no devil in the ring, but the beast Casimero is always there to fight.

The judge spoke already, they let Casimero win and that’s a final decision so I don’t see why people are mad at Casimero while Rigo is just running.

Casimero is a boxer, he has a team that will work on his next fight so technically even if Donaire or Inoue reject Casimero, he can still find his opponent in time as long as there is money, its possible.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on August 16, 2021, 08:02:32 AM

Didn't expect for Casimero to get the match and defend his title, a lot of people don't seem to agree and is hating on Casimero for winning but I saw his performance and I feel like he deserves the win no matter what.

The only way people or boxers alike are going to hate on Casimero is that if he wins the fight in controversial manner. But there was none, he was clearly the aggressor on the fight and want to have a good fight, mano-a-mano, but Rigo is not interested and just counter punch with his left, but only one punch, Lol. So that won't any fight in my opinion. Maybe in the 60's or 70's where we have a lot of good defensive boxers, in that era perhaps Rigo could have won the fight. But now, fans wanted to see a great fight between two champions in which he didn't live up to. So Casimero deserves the win no matter what those boxing analyst says.

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Those discussions about who shall be the next opponent of Casimero. We've got some beef on the table and I think they're really marketing to have the next match as soon as possible. Whoever is leading this or Casimero himself, just doesn't want to take a long rest after this match. Well, this is just the same discussion as before that has been postponed against Donaire. He would really love to box any of the two. And it's the job of his promoter, they sure want him to fight as soon as possible and have the negotiation already.

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I haven't seen the Livestream that is why I have watched the highlights and it was an aggressive move for John Riel Casimero to always fight head on a running Rigondeaux, We can see that there are many holds and getting away tactics for Guillermo Rigondeaux, but in my opinion, this is really the way Rigondeaux play, he is a counter puncher that is waiting for the pray to leap for him to strike, many will surely say that Rigondeaux style is so boring but we surely have many opinions about this, and John Riel Casimero is just one speedy fighter and durability that Rigondeaux can not read and Casimero always goes with the body that Rigondeux doesn't apply any counter, But Congrat to both fighters mostly Casimero that have shown how aggressive a Filipino can be in getting the victory.

John Riel Casimero always goes head hunting in his fight because he wanted to get a ko against Rigo in this fight. That's what he promise in the pre-fight, so he really works to score a ko but Rigo is not a willing victim. And you are right, that his is style of fighting, boring, but for him it is effective. He hit Casimero with good counter, but Casimero keeps coming even in the last round and still looking for that ko. The output though says it all, less than 40 punch in every rounds combine if I'm not mistaken.

Casimero can't hit Rigo because Rigo is so fast but he is not throwing punches, that's the difference between him and Mayweather because Mayweather through punches and he is quick at the same time. Meanwhile, Crawford had some tweet saying, Rigo won the fight clearly.

here's the tweet.

https://twitter.com/terencecrawford/status/1426754219068039168

What a boxer says does not matter anymore, what is done is done, the judges already made the decision and they give the win to the defending champion. May it be a lesson for Rigondeaux to consider boxing a serious sport and don't mix with a marathon race, lol.

I respect Terrence, but his decision is bias.

It's always biased because he is against Pacquiao and anyone whom Pacquiao will promote or work under him, he would not appreciate that, just like Mayweather. On the other hand, this fight although boring makes Casimero more popular as he gained additional fans and haters especially the the Japanese people for disrespecting their boxing superstar, maybe soon we will see a Casimero vs Inoue fight because of that.

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I haven't seen the Livestream that is why I have watched the highlights and it was an aggressive move for John Riel Casimero to always fight head on a running Rigondeaux, We can see that there are many holds and getting away tactics for Guillermo Rigondeaux, but in my opinion, this is really the way Rigondeaux play, he is a counter puncher that is waiting for the pray to leap for him to strike, many will surely say that Rigondeaux style is so boring but we surely have many opinions about this, and John Riel Casimero is just one speedy fighter and durability that Rigondeaux can not read and Casimero always goes with the body that Rigondeux doesn't apply any counter, But Congrat to both fighters mostly Casimero that have shown how aggressive a Filipino can be in getting the victory.

John Riel Casimero always goes head hunting in his fight because he wanted to get a ko against Rigo in this fight. That's what he promise in the pre-fight, so he really works to score a ko but Rigo is not a willing victim. And you are right, that his is style of fighting, boring, but for him it is effective. He hit Casimero with good counter, but Casimero keeps coming even in the last round and still looking for that ko. The output though says it all, less than 40 punch in every rounds combine if I'm not mistaken.

Casimero can't hit Rigo because Rigo is so fast but he is not throwing punches, that's the difference between him and Mayweather because Mayweather through punches and he is quick at the same time. Meanwhile, Crawford had some tweet saying, Rigo won the fight clearly.

here's the tweet.

https://twitter.com/terencecrawford/status/1426754219068039168

What a boxer says does not matter anymore, what is done is done, the judges already made the decision and they give the win to the defending champion. May it be a lesson for Rigondeaux to consider boxing a serious sport and don't mix with a marathon race, lol.

I respect Terrence, but his decision is bias.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on August 16, 2021, 08:02:32 AM

Didn't expect for Casimero to get the match and defend his title, a lot of people don't seem to agree and is hating on Casimero for winning but I saw his performance and I feel like he deserves the win no matter what.

The majority of the fans believe that Casimero won the fight, there's a lot of youtube videos on the highlights of the fight, all you can read is that Rigo is boring, he is a runner or he is fully condition in running, there's no devil in the ring, but the beast Casimero is always there to fight.

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Didn't expect for Casimero to get the match and defend his title, a lot of people don't seem to agree and is hating on Casimero for winning but I saw his performance and I feel like he deserves the win no matter what.

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Yeah, no need for a rematch, we all know that Casimero already won very clearly, Rigo can talk all he wants after the fight, but fight fans doesn't appreciate his style.

Rigo might not not be fighting anymore, who would watch him fight if his style doesn't change, and the fact that he is 40 years old, his career is over by now.

BTW, that fight was record-breaking in the sense that it has the lowest landed punches in a twelve-round fight. Looking at the stats below if you have not watched the fight, you will think that it's a six-round fight.
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the funny thing here is that some analysts are pro-rigo. don't know if they were just blindly watching about the running technique of rigo. and even rigo himself knows about his running style because he clearly said, that's all he knows. how can you land so much punches if your opponent is running away from you? as others have commented in some videos, the boxing association should have some type of deduction if the boxer is just running around the ring and not engaging. boxing fans are getting screwed with this kind of boxer. not worth paying the ppv but just look for free streaming of this fight.

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I haven't seen the Livestream that is why I have watched the highlights and it was an aggressive move for John Riel Casimero to always fight head on a running Rigondeaux, We can see that there are many holds and getting away tactics for Guillermo Rigondeaux, but in my opinion, this is really the way Rigondeaux play, he is a counter puncher that is waiting for the pray to leap for him to strike, many will surely say that Rigondeaux style is so boring but we surely have many opinions about this, and John Riel Casimero is just one speedy fighter and durability that Rigondeaux can not read and Casimero always goes with the body that Rigondeux doesn't apply any counter, But Congrat to both fighters mostly Casimero that have shown how aggressive a Filipino can be in getting the victory.

John Riel Casimero always goes head hunting in his fight because he wanted to get a ko against Rigo in this fight. That's what he promise in the pre-fight, so he really works to score a ko but Rigo is not a willing victim. And you are right, that his is style of fighting, boring, but for him it is effective. He hit Casimero with good counter, but Casimero keeps coming even in the last round and still looking for that ko. The output though says it all, less than 40 punch in every rounds combine if I'm not mistaken.

Casimero can't hit Rigo because Rigo is so fast but he is not throwing punches, that's the difference between him and Mayweather because Mayweather through punches and he is quick at the same time. Meanwhile, Crawford had some tweet saying, Rigo won the fight clearly.

here's the tweet.

https://twitter.com/terencecrawford/status/1426754219068039168

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Quote from: btc_angela on August 16, 2021, 03:46:56 AM

Yeah, no need for a rematch, we all know that Casimero already won very clearly, Rigo can talk all he wants after the fight, but fight fans doesn't appreciate his style.

Rigo might not not be fighting anymore, who would watch him fight if his style doesn't change, and the fact that he is 40 years old, his career is over by now.

BTW, that fight was record-breaking in the sense that it has the lowest landed punches in a twelve-round fight. Looking at the stats below if you have not watched the fight, you will think that it's a six-round fight.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on August 16, 2021, 04:22:00 AM

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I haven't seen the Livestream that is why I have watched the highlights and it was an aggressive move for John Riel Casimero to always fight head on a running Rigondeaux, We can see that there are many holds and getting away tactics for Guillermo Rigondeaux, but in my opinion, this is really the way Rigondeaux play, he is a counter puncher that is waiting for the pray to leap for him to strike, many will surely say that Rigondeaux style is so boring but we surely have many opinions about this, and John Riel Casimero is just one speedy fighter and durability that Rigondeaux can not read and Casimero always goes with the body that Rigondeux doesn't apply any counter, But Congrat to both fighters mostly Casimero that have shown how aggressive a Filipino can be in getting the victory.

John Riel Casimero always goes head hunting in his fight because he wanted to get a ko against Rigo in this fight. That's what he promise in the pre-fight, so he really works to score a ko but Rigo is not a willing victim. And you are right, that his is style of fighting, boring, but for him it is effective. He hit Casimero with good counter, but Casimero keeps coming even in the last round and still looking for that ko. The output though says it all, less than 40 punch in every rounds combine if I'm not mistaken.

Yes from that perspective many have seen that John Riel Casimero is the aggressor and the one that is dominating the fight but the truth is Guillermo Rigondeaux is not really running and watching the highlights I have noticed that the boring style of Rigondeaux is really his southpaw stance, and I have noticed that John Riel Casimero is really pissed off by this kind of style, well both men really did their job, I don't want to judge Rigondeaux on the way he fights but he is really fighting tactically, always looking at an opening before giving a bite, but the way Casimero fight is really impressive too, there are times that Rigondeaux catches him with his counter but the Durability of Casimero was really bothering Rigondeaux,

And yes when the Decision was announced Guillermo Rigondeaux thought that he won the fight, I am not biased here I am just saying what I have seen in the fight, and I have bet and in favor with John Riel Casimero, but after seeing Rigondeaux fight I have seen how tough of an opponent Casimero have fought that night.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on August 16, 2021, 04:11:31 AM

I haven't seen the Livestream that is why I have watched the highlights and it was an aggressive move for John Riel Casimero to always fight head on a running Rigondeaux, We can see that there are many holds and getting away tactics for Guillermo Rigondeaux, but in my opinion, this is really the way Rigondeaux play, he is a counter puncher that is waiting for the pray to leap for him to strike, many will surely say that Rigondeaux style is so boring but we surely have many opinions about this, and John Riel Casimero is just one speedy fighter and durability that Rigondeaux can not read and Casimero always goes with the body that Rigondeux doesn't apply any counter, But Congrat to both fighters mostly Casimero that have shown how aggressive a Filipino can be in getting the victory.

John Riel Casimero always goes head hunting in his fight because he wanted to get a ko against Rigo in this fight. That's what he promise in the pre-fight, so he really works to score a ko but Rigo is not a willing victim. And you are right, that his is style of fighting, boring, but for him it is effective. He hit Casimero with good counter, but Casimero keeps coming even in the last round and still looking for that ko. The output though says it all, less than 40 punch in every rounds combine if I'm not mistaken.

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I haven't seen the Livestream that is why I have watched the highlights and it was an aggressive move for John Riel Casimero to always fight head on a running Rigondeaux, We can see that there are many holds and getting away tactics for Guillermo Rigondeaux, but in my opinion, this is really the way Rigondeaux play, he is a counter puncher that is waiting for the pray to leap for him to strike, many will surely say that Rigondeaux style is so boring but we surely have many opinions about this, and John Riel Casimero is just one speedy fighter and durability that Rigondeaux can not read and Casimero always goes with the body that Rigondeux doesn't apply any counter, But Congrat to both fighters mostly Casimero that have shown how aggressive a Filipino can be in getting the victory.

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Quote from: harizen on August 16, 2021, 12:33:42 AM

Quote from: peter0425 on August 15, 2021, 09:31:10 PM

so sad to see that there are boxers like this one who cannot accept an obvious defeat.

It's ok, just let him like that. Boxing fans or not know who's the clear winner of the match.

Should be a unanimous decision but I don't know how Rigo was able to catch one of the judges for a 115-113 score where other judges gave a Casimero a wide gap over scores, 116-112 and 117-111.

If Rigo will ask for a rematch, and with the style he showed, I doubt Casimero's camp will pick it unless it's a unification match.

The one judge that gave Rigo a nod is Tim Cheatham. Maybe he thought that Rigo counter punching is enough. We all know that there are rounds wherein no one was a clear winning, so perhaps he gave Rigo some rounds that are close.

Yeah, no need for a rematch, we all know that Casimero already won very clearly, Rigo can talk all he wants after the fight, but fight fans doesn't appreciate his style.

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Quote from: harizen on August 16, 2021, 12:33:42 AM

Quote from: peter0425 on August 15, 2021, 09:31:10 PM

so sad to see that there are boxers like this one who cannot accept an obvious defeat.

It's ok, just let him like that. Boxing fans or not know who's the clear winner of the match.

Should be a unanimous decision but I don't know how Rigo was able to catch one of the judges for a 115-113 score where other judges gave a Casimero a wide gap over scores, 116-112 and 117-111.

If Rigo will ask for a rematch, and with the style he showed, I doubt Casimero's camp will pick it unless it's a unification match.

He doesn't deserve to ask for a rematch no promoters will let it happen, boxers are there in the ring to engage show how powerful they are, what Rigo displayed is an act of cowardice it's injustice for the boxing community to see a fighter like this, imagine he only throw 49 punches and he justifies it by saying that it's all the punches he needed to win, this is total injustice a boxer is expected to never count his punches and to go for the win imagine a title is on the line and he can only throw 49 punches, he is a big joke, time for him to retire, he deserves those booing.

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Quote from: harizen on August 16, 2021, 12:33:42 AM

Quote from: peter0425 on August 15, 2021, 09:31:10 PM

so sad to see that there are boxers like this one who cannot accept an obvious defeat.

It's ok, just let him like that. Boxing fans or not know who's the clear winner of the match.

Should be a unanimous decision but I don't know how Rigo was able to catch one of the judges for a 115-113 score where other judges gave a Casimero a wide gap over scores, 116-112 and 117-111.

If Rigo will ask for a rematch, and with the style he showed, I doubt Casimero's camp will pick it unless it's a unification match.

Yes that is an obvious stupid decision from one Judge in which Casimero dominated the whole fight and there are not even 1 round that favors for Rigo, he even fall down in the fight in which high value for favoring casimero who handles being tough and strong .
Sometimes this is why Boxing and other sports had been questioned legitimacy , by making and letting this kind of situation happening and not acting to pay respect.

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Quote from: peter0425 on August 15, 2021, 09:31:10 PM

so sad to see that there are boxers like this one who cannot accept an obvious defeat.

It's ok, just let him like that. Boxing fans or not know who's the clear winner of the match.

Should be a unanimous decision but I don't know how Rigo was able to catch one of the judges for a 115-113 score where other judges gave a Casimero a wide gap over scores, 116-112 and 117-111.

If Rigo will ask for a rematch, and with the style he showed, I doubt Casimero's camp will pick it unless it's a unification match.

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i think people enjoyed their fight. i wouldn't be surprised if there will be another. a rematch will be fun.
if they are making money out of this match and they like the sport, there is no stopping. Rigo i think enjoyed this one too. there is nothing for casimero to do as well but to fight whoever is there available if inoue and donaire won't fight him.

congrats to Casimero!

Literally not a single person enjoyed this fight. A rematch is not necessary because nobody wants to see Rigondeaux fight again. He will stink up the place again. Bantamweight is still a loaded division and there will be other interesting opponents for Casimero.

Everyone knows it's a boring fight, even if you just watch the highlights on youtube, you can see a lot of comments that says the fight is boring. Prior to the fight, Rigondeaux said that Casimero will see a devil in the ring, but what happens is it's a running Devil trying to run for his life, in short, he only sell but does not show it in the actual fight.

The first time that Rigondeaux was criticized this much.

it was a 12 round fight. if you have been there near the ring and paid for the ticket it's going to make you want to see fights that last long. if casimero enjoyed it as i can see him smiling all the time it's worth watching. Rigo successfully avoided knockout by his boring strategy but casimero is not at fault. rigo bitterness though is what made it not a sportsman like especially his tweets. i really think there could be another.

He had ruined his reputation on how he shows the attitude when defeated . he is not worth watching as he was boring and cry baby when loses .
i think that the Filipino community will really hates him that much.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on August 15, 2021, 04:53:18 PM

That's why he needs to retire because he is not effective anymore, the running capability is still there but the punching power was not present anymore. He hit Casimero with clean shots also but it looks like Casimero was not even tagged, at his age now, he should retire and enjoy life after boxing.

Agreed to the retirement matter, but I can say he still have punching power and effective defensive style, that counter punches was so effective, if only he become more aggressive at least as a challenger instead of more in running he could surely won.

Besides Casimero also can't land clear shots and lacks of punches, he's aggressive, following Rigo anywhere yet don't throw punches even lesser to no jobs at all.

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Quote from: electronicash on August 15, 2021, 09:31:59 AM

i think people enjoyed their fight. i wouldn't be surprised if there will be another. a rematch will be fun.
if they are making money out of this match and they like the sport, there is no stopping. Rigo i think enjoyed this one too. there is nothing for casimero to do as well but to fight whoever is there available if inoue and donaire won't fight him.

congrats to Casimero!

Literally not a single person enjoyed this fight. A rematch is not necessary because nobody wants to see Rigondeaux fight again. He will stink up the place again. Bantamweight is still a loaded division and there will be other interesting opponents for Casimero.

Everyone knows it's a boring fight, even if you just watch the highlights on youtube, you can see a lot of comments that says the fight is boring. Prior to the fight, Rigondeaux said that Casimero will see a devil in the ring, but what happens is it's a running Devil trying to run for his life, in short, he only sell but does not show it in the actual fight.

The first time that Rigondeaux was criticized this much.

it was a 12 round fight. if you have been there near the ring and paid for the ticket it's going to make you want to see fights that last long. if casimero enjoyed it as i can see him smiling all the time it's worth watching. Rigo successfully avoided knockout by his boring strategy but casimero is not at fault. rigo bitterness though is what made it not a sportsman like especially his tweets. i really think there could be another.

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