Casimero vs Rigondeaux this August 14, 2021 - page 4.

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Quote from: electronicash on August 15, 2021, 10:31:59 AM

i think people enjoyed their fight. i wouldn't be surprised if there will be another. a rematch will be fun.
if they are making money out of this match and they like the sport, there is no stopping. Rigo i think enjoyed this one too. there is nothing for casimero to do as well but to fight whoever is there available if inoue and donaire won't fight him.

congrats to Casimero!

Casimero totally devastated Rigondeaux career as the Loser is feeling bitter tweeting that the |Philippines has a Great boxer and that is Manny Pacquiao " instead of mentioning the Boxer that beats Him.

meaning he does not accepted the result though it is an obviously domination of casimero from the round one.

so sad to see that there are boxers like this one who cannot accept an obvious defeat.

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Rigo should retire and then Casimero wait for the Inoue vs Donaire fight.

I'd like to see Casimero versus Donaire first. I hope that they're going to continue their postponed match and we all thought that it was about to happen but it didn't. And whoever wins will challenge Inoue or just both them have a fight with the japanese boxer.

Yeah, why not push for Casimero vs Donaire again. Hopefully Donaire will let Casimero fight him and keep their squabbles aside and make all Filipino fight, that will be more interesting than waiting for the outcome of Donaire vs Inoue. Inoue can take all the vacations he wanted, will the two fight it out for the biggest price. Me makes me think of Pacquiao-Barrera-Morales in the featherweight division. But Pacquiao end up having the numbers on this 2 Mexican legends.

It's already been set before but it didn't pushed and that's why I'd like to watch it first then whoever wants to pursue, any of them can fight Inoue next. Whilst for Inoue, he's good to fight any of them and he's not going to step back with any match coming from these two.
Well, as this match has ended. Most of these will still depend on them and contracts, give and take, percentages and other part of the deal that shall be divided between them.

Yep, but Donaire chooses to step away because of several issues like the VADA testing and supposedly Casimero and his team attacking Rachel Donaire.

But since Casimero already won against a fighter that Donaire lost in his prime, perhaps it will be better for them to fight each other and Donaire step aside the squabbles and give us fans a good fight to watch early next year. And the winner will eventually fight Inoue for all the belts, that will be the perfect scenario.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on August 15, 2021, 05:53:18 PM

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The first time that Rigondeaux was criticized this much.

That's why he needs to retire because he is not effective anymore, the running capability is still there but the punching power was not present anymore. He hit Casimero with clean shots also but it looks like Casimero was not even tagged, at his age now, he should retire and enjoy life after boxing.

He has been criticized as well with the Loma fight in which he quit in his stool.

So in this case, he didn't quit but rather ran all day throughout the fight. I'm not sure why the other judges score it for Rigo though, because in boxing most of the time the aggressor will always win the fight.

Worst I heard is that this is the worst fight they have seen with titles on the line, LOL.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on August 15, 2021, 06:17:03 PM

He said, that's the only style he knows to win (maybe, referring to running style), and he only needs few punches to win this fight.

He is referring to defense style. He just needs to gather more points every round and no need to do close combat. It's his style right from the start of his professional fight. It's like a Joshua Clottey style.

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And the ridiculous part, is that he really thought he won. After all the running and hugging, you expect to win this fight?

He was managed to connect some good shots including counter shots every round while doing his usual run and clinch. He maybe thinks that judges scored big on it. The fight ended up in split decision meaning his style really works.

Quote from: TimeTeller on August 15, 2021, 06:17:03 PM

This man should really retire, he is just wasting people's money, and maybe this is the reason why he can't get much followers.

Everyone is already aware of Rigo's style. Why are they still paying for it?

He can still fight but not in a title match as he's not fit with it now. I also doubt he can still make good money. He can't bring the entertainment that boxing fans want.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on August 15, 2021, 05:53:18 PM

Quote from: stadus on August 15, 2021, 04:19:31 PM

The first time that Rigondeaux was criticized this much.

That's why he needs to retire because he is not effective anymore, the running capability is still there but the punching power was not present anymore. He hit Casimero with clean shots also but it looks like Casimero was not even tagged, at his age now, he should retire and enjoy life after boxing.

I watched the post fight interview and it is really disappointing even the answers coming from Rigo.
He said, that's the only style he knows to win (maybe, referring to running style), and he only needs few punches to win this fight.
And the ridiculous part, is that he really thought he won. After all the running and hugging, you expect to win this fight?
A challenger should be more aggressive not running away from the title holder.
This man should really retire, he is just wasting people's money, and maybe this is the reason why he can't get much followers.
I hope his promoter will not arrange fight anymore. We want real fight not running challenge inside the ring.

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Quote from: stadus on August 15, 2021, 04:19:31 PM

The first time that Rigondeaux was criticized this much.

That's why he needs to retire because he is not effective anymore, the running capability is still there but the punching power was not present anymore. He hit Casimero with clean shots also but it looks like Casimero was not even tagged, at his age now, he should retire and enjoy life after boxing.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 15, 2021, 01:40:25 PM

Quote from: electronicash on August 15, 2021, 10:31:59 AM

i think people enjoyed their fight. i wouldn't be surprised if there will be another. a rematch will be fun.
if they are making money out of this match and they like the sport, there is no stopping. Rigo i think enjoyed this one too. there is nothing for casimero to do as well but to fight whoever is there available if inoue and donaire won't fight him.

congrats to Casimero!

Literally not a single person enjoyed this fight. A rematch is not necessary because nobody wants to see Rigondeaux fight again. He will stink up the place again. Bantamweight is still a loaded division and there will be other interesting opponents for Casimero.

Everyone knows it's a boring fight, even if you just watch the highlights on youtube, you can see a lot of comments that says the fight is boring. Prior to the fight, Rigondeaux said that Casimero will see a devil in the ring, but what happens is it's a running Devil trying to run for his life, in short, he only sell but does not show it in the actual fight.

The first time that Rigondeaux was criticized this much.

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Quote from: electronicash on August 15, 2021, 10:31:59 AM

i think people enjoyed their fight. i wouldn't be surprised if there will be another. a rematch will be fun.
if they are making money out of this match and they like the sport, there is no stopping. Rigo i think enjoyed this one too. there is nothing for casimero to do as well but to fight whoever is there available if inoue and donaire won't fight him.

congrats to Casimero!

Literally not a single person enjoyed this fight. A rematch is not necessary because nobody wants to see Rigondeaux fight again. He will stink up the place again. Bantamweight is still a loaded division and there will be other interesting opponents for Casimero.

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i think people enjoyed their fight. i wouldn't be surprised if there will be another. a rematch will be fun.
if they are making money out of this match and they like the sport, there is no stopping. Rigo i think enjoyed this one too. there is nothing for casimero to do as well but to fight whoever is there available if inoue and donaire won't fight him.

congrats to Casimero!

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Quote from: coin-investor on August 15, 2021, 02:06:41 AM

If I'm a fan watching this fight I will be mad it's not the kind of fight worth spending money or even watching I hop from one tab to another because the fight is so boring, it should have been a UD for Casimero, Rigondeaux did not bring anything to the ring but only to run and dance and avoiding to exchange punches.

Gladly, I was only watching the fight in the free streaming earlier. It was a frustrating fight in which the fans booed Rigo for his awful performance. The guy should really retire now because he doesn't have anything to show anymore. We need to see a fight that like the Pacquiao vs Morales Trilogy and where both boxers are completely clashing inside the ring. Those boxers who just want to run all day, are boring in their ultimate sense.

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Quote from: crzy on August 15, 2021, 08:17:35 AM

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 15, 2021, 02:54:27 AM

This is not the kind of performance that increases Casimero's value as a fighter. He arguably should have lost the fight. I don't think Inoue will be next. Inoue will fight on New Year's Day in Japan and Donaire seems to be the preferred opponent. Casimero will have to look impressive in his next fight for him to be considered for Inoue.

A win is a win no matter what, we don’t like how the fight ended but still Casimero did his best its just that his opponent is just roaming around running for his life. I don’t think Donaire will happen after they cancelled their match, Inoue should be the next target or anyone. I’m disappointed with Rigondeaux, and I applaud for Casimero for keeping his composure despite of no KO.

I've seen some of the fights of Rigo, against Donaire, he was exchanging well but in this fight, he seemed to be afraid of the power of Casimero, so this makes me think that Casimero is better than Donaire as Rigo beat Donaire via unanimous decision.

If Donaire will fight Casimero, the probably Casimero will win and we will see the Inoue vs Casimero fight.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 15, 2021, 02:54:27 AM

This is not the kind of performance that increases Casimero's value as a fighter. He arguably should have lost the fight. I don't think Inoue will be next. Inoue will fight on New Year's Day in Japan and Donaire seems to be the preferred opponent. Casimero will have to look impressive in his next fight for him to be considered for Inoue.

A win is a win no matter what, we don’t like how the fight ended but still Casimero did his best its just that his opponent is just roaming around running for his life. I don’t think Donaire will happen after they cancelled their match, Inoue should be the next target or anyone. I’m disappointed with Rigondeaux, and I applaud for Casimero for keeping his composure despite of no KO.

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This is not the kind of performance that increases Casimero's value as a fighter. He arguably should have lost the fight. I don't think Inoue will be next. Inoue will fight on New Year's Day in Japan and Donaire seems to be the preferred opponent. Casimero will have to look impressive in his next fight for him to be considered for Inoue.

I think his value still increases as he eliminate on of the champions in this division, so only 3 names remain, Inoue, Donaire and himself. He seems to be very frustrated chasing Rigo, I think the only way to beat Rigo is very technical fighter like Loma, who really stomped Rigo and made him quit.

But a pure boxer who relies on his power like Donaire or in this case Casimero, it will be really difficult because of Rigo's defense.

While watching the unofficial full fight uploaded in YT, reading the comments section is more interesting than watching the whole fight. Grin

Boxing fans really want a toe-to-toe fight not a marathon inside the ring. This is why a lot of boxing aficionados like Pacquiao over Mayweather. And in this fight, it seems Mayweather passed the torch to Rigo for being a runner inside the ring.

Most probably, he must have followed the advice of Mayweather, lol... but actually, this guy is already a runner, that's the way he wins in the fight but on a selective opponent, maybe he understands how strong Casimero is, so he forgot to throw punches and just focus on running.

However, they made history but not on a good side.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/8/15/22625307/rigondeaux-vs-casimero-results-highlights-john-riel-split-decision-compubox-record-boxing-news-2021

https://twitter.com/DanCanobbio/status/1426756749319626752

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Guilermo Rigondeaux and John Riel Casimero break the
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Previous record was 100 combined landed punches in Mario Barrios vs. Devis Boschiero (7/9/16)

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Quote from: Jating on August 15, 2021, 05:41:37 AM

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 15, 2021, 02:54:27 AM

This is not the kind of performance that increases Casimero's value as a fighter. He arguably should have lost the fight. I don't think Inoue will be next. Inoue will fight on New Year's Day in Japan and Donaire seems to be the preferred opponent. Casimero will have to look impressive in his next fight for him to be considered for Inoue.

I think his value still increases as he eliminate on of the champions in this division, so only 3 names remain, Inoue, Donaire and himself. He seems to be very frustrated chasing Rigo, I think the only way to beat Rigo is very technical fighter like Loma, who really stomped Rigo and made him quit.

But a pure boxer who relies on his power like Donaire or in this case Casimero, it will be really difficult because of Rigo's defense.

While watching the unofficial full fight uploaded in YT, reading the comments section is more interesting than watching the whole fight. Grin

Boxing fans really want a toe-to-toe fight not a marathon inside the ring. This is why a lot of boxing aficionados like Pacquiao over Mayweather. And in this fight, it seems Mayweather passed the torch to Rigo for being a runner inside the ring.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on August 15, 2021, 06:04:59 AM

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Rigo should retire and then Casimero wait for the Inoue vs Donaire fight.

I'd like to see Casimero versus Donaire first. I hope that they're going to continue their postponed match and we all thought that it was about to happen but it didn't. And whoever wins will challenge Inoue or just both them have a fight with the japanese boxer.

Yeah, why not push for Casimero vs Donaire again. Hopefully Donaire will let Casimero fight him and keep their squabbles aside and make all Filipino fight, that will be more interesting than waiting for the outcome of Donaire vs Inoue. Inoue can take all the vacations he wanted, will the two fight it out for the biggest price. Me makes me think of Pacquiao-Barrera-Morales in the featherweight division. But Pacquiao end up having the numbers on this 2 Mexican legends.

It's already been set before but it didn't pushed and that's why I'd like to watch it first then whoever wants to pursue, any of them can fight Inoue next. Whilst for Inoue, he's good to fight any of them and he's not going to step back with any match coming from these two.
Well, as this match has ended. Most of these will still depend on them and contracts, give and take, percentages and other part of the deal that shall be divided between them.

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Quote from: blockman on August 15, 2021, 01:32:02 AM

Despite the dissatisfaction of some of the fans, this is still a win for Casimero. Congratulations for defending his title.

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Rigo should retire and then Casimero wait for the Inoue vs Donaire fight.

I'd like to see Casimero versus Donaire first. I hope that they're going to continue their postponed match and we all thought that it was about to happen but it didn't. And whoever wins will challenge Inoue or just both them have a fight with the japanese boxer.

Yeah, why not push for Casimero vs Donaire again. Hopefully Donaire will let Casimero fight him and keep their squabbles aside and make all Filipino fight, that will be more interesting than waiting for the outcome of Donaire vs Inoue. Inoue can take all the vacations he wanted, will the two fight it out for the biggest price. Me makes me think of Pacquiao-Barrera-Morales in the featherweight division. But Pacquiao end up having the numbers on this 2 Mexican legends.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 15, 2021, 02:54:27 AM

This is not the kind of performance that increases Casimero's value as a fighter. He arguably should have lost the fight. I don't think Inoue will be next. Inoue will fight on New Year's Day in Japan and Donaire seems to be the preferred opponent. Casimero will have to look impressive in his next fight for him to be considered for Inoue.

I think his value still increases as he eliminate on of the champions in this division, so only 3 names remain, Inoue, Donaire and himself. He seems to be very frustrated chasing Rigo, I think the only way to beat Rigo is very technical fighter like Loma, who really stomped Rigo and made him quit.

But a pure boxer who relies on his power like Donaire or in this case Casimero, it will be really difficult because of Rigo's defense.

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Quote from: Sanitough on August 14, 2021, 02:28:56 PM

In less than 24 hours, we will see the awaited fight.

Looks like the odds have moved a bit.

Casimero to win 1.55
win by KO 1.93
win by decision 6.00

Did anyone bet on this odds? that's x6 and that's a good win for Casimero bettors.

And I like to say congratulations to Casimero for winning this boring fight, I thought he would not make it but judges are right to favor the more active and the more hard-working fighter in the ring.

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Quote from: yazher on August 14, 2021, 09:43:11 PM

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That hit and run strategy, damn. That's annoying but I know that every single anticipation has been made by Casimero and with his team. I just watched some of highlights with Casimero's and that gave me a boost and for sure he's going to show the same thing.
I agree that this fight won't be a boring fight.

Whenever he fought in the ring it just becomes a show time that's why he got popular with it especially when he got revenge on the dirty Thailand boxer. It was satisfying to watch despite how dirty that guy fights, Casimero still won via KO.

You can watch the highlight here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6c8crxhU8A&ab_channel=SportsEvolution

And you know what? Casimero seems to be disappointed with what Rigondeaux said that there's no running but you know what happened.
He feels frustrated and embarrassing but well, that seems to be less than what he has expected.

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This is not the kind of performance that increases Casimero's value as a fighter. He arguably should have lost the fight. I don't think Inoue will be next. Inoue will fight on New Year's Day in Japan and Donaire seems to be the preferred opponent. Casimero will have to look impressive in his next fight for him to be considered for Inoue.

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