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Quote from: cabron on April 30, 2020, 02:37:06 PM

Its hard to believe there is no vaccine yet actually.

It's a new strain of Corona Virus so it is expected that there are no virus nor vaccine for it at this moment. Scientists are doing everything to make impossible things like having a perfect cure for it in around 12-18 months. This sounds long but that is the shortest time possible that scientists can create a cure for a new virus unless they will do it this time in a shorter time then it will be better. Not hard to believe for me so lets just wait for the cure

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Yup, its even a great achievement if they really made one in just 12-18 months. It really takes a lot of time for a vaccine to be created. The vaccine for the ebola virus was created in 5 years, and sad to say its the fastest-developed vaccine ever. I think what makes it hard is because the Corona virus is still mysterious in terms of how it affects our immune system. Have you heard about the news in South korea about those reinfected ones? Quite scary. I thought there's immunity after you get one. So its really takes time, its crucial to create a safe and effective one.

About the topic, employers would say that their employees are not their responsibility, however, isn't it best to show care to the people who work for them? They may not really gave everyone their full salary but its enough if they can do something for those employees who are really suffering. So after this pandemic, their employees would be able to go back to their work.

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Quote from: virasog on May 01, 2020, 09:37:44 AM

Quote from: inanilujimi on May 01, 2020, 08:21:02 AM

many people are experiencing the effects of this pandemic, especially the food industry and many employees are laid off from work, we can only hope that this pandemic ends soon and life returns to normal again.

As the lockdown gets extended more and more people and businesses will suffer. People are losing their jobs and businesses are coming to an end. Since physically casino are closed too, the owners have only two options either to dismiss their employees or deduct their salaries. I think the 2nd option is much better as employees have hope to resume the work when this pandemic is over.

What if the pandemic doesn't go away soon though? That would fck everybody up both the employer and the employee. Many people don't think about tht possibility but I think it is always better to be prepared for the worst case scenario.

It's certainly. I fear it's going to destroy the bulk of people's lives. That's why it's important to have savings when there's an emergency, the money should always give priority to needs, not comfort. Staff, particularly low-wage employees, would have a tough position in which to cope with the damages incurred by the pandemic. Not just the workers, but the owner of the business, who also suffers a lot, it's hard to start all over again.

It messes up everything and if this one would go further then it will really be a devastating scenario that cant really be handled out well even how much money you do have as a business owner.
Savings is a must but people do neglect this basic thing thats why when these kind of time or situations then we would really be having a hard time on how we gonna handle out ourselves
specially where needs should really be seek on.This isnt only applied on this business but in other things as well.We are indeed all affected with this pandemic and we do really
need that vaccine but for now we should really save money as much as we can to survive.

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Quote from: mindrust on May 01, 2020, 12:25:24 PM

Quote from: virasog on May 01, 2020, 09:37:44 AM

Quote from: inanilujimi on May 01, 2020, 08:21:02 AM

many people are experiencing the effects of this pandemic, especially the food industry and many employees are laid off from work, we can only hope that this pandemic ends soon and life returns to normal again.

As the lockdown gets extended more and more people and businesses will suffer. People are losing their jobs and businesses are coming to an end. Since physically casino are closed too, the owners have only two options either to dismiss their employees or deduct their salaries. I think the 2nd option is much better as employees have hope to resume the work when this pandemic is over.

What if the pandemic doesn't go away soon though? That would fck everybody up both the employer and the employee. Many people don't think about tht possibility but I think it is always better to be prepared for the worst case scenario.

It's certainly. I fear it's going to destroy the bulk of people's lives. That's why it's important to have savings when there's an emergency, the money should always give priority to needs, not comfort. Staff, particularly low-wage employees, would have a tough position in which to cope with the damages incurred by the pandemic. Not just the workers, but the owner of the business, who also suffers a lot, it's hard to start all over again.

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Quote from: virasog on May 01, 2020, 09:37:44 AM

Quote from: inanilujimi on May 01, 2020, 08:21:02 AM

many people are experiencing the effects of this pandemic, especially the food industry and many employees are laid off from work, we can only hope that this pandemic ends soon and life returns to normal again.

As the lockdown gets extended more and more people and businesses will suffer. People are losing their jobs and businesses are coming to an end. Since physically casino are closed too, the owners have only two options either to dismiss their employees or deduct their salaries. I think the 2nd option is much better as employees have hope to resume the work when this pandemic is over.

What if the pandemic doesn't go away soon though? That would fck everybody up both the employer and the employee. Many people don't think about tht possibility but I think it is always better to be prepared for the worst case scenario.

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Quote from: virasog on May 01, 2020, 09:37:44 AM

Quote from: inanilujimi on May 01, 2020, 08:21:02 AM

many people are experiencing the effects of this pandemic, especially the food industry and many employees are laid off from work, we can only hope that this pandemic ends soon and life returns to normal again.

As the lockdown gets extended more and more people and businesses will suffer. People are losing their jobs and businesses are coming to an end. Since physically casino are closed too, the owners have only two options either to dismiss their employees or deduct their salaries. I think the 2nd option is much better as employees have hope to resume the work when this pandemic is over.

We cannot do about that because it is one of the way to stop the spreading of the virus. Yes there are many people who suffering because of the quarantine but if the governments around the world will not do that, there will be a major catastrophe that may happen. Most of casinos are closed nowadays and many of their employees are part of the no work no pay, I think the problem is their management where their employees should receive equal salary.

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Quote from: virasog on May 01, 2020, 09:37:44 AM

Quote from: inanilujimi on May 01, 2020, 08:21:02 AM

many people are experiencing the effects of this pandemic, especially the food industry and many employees are laid off from work, we can only hope that this pandemic ends soon and life returns to normal again.

As the lockdown gets extended more and more people and businesses will suffer. People are losing their jobs and businesses are coming to an end. Since physically casino are closed too, the owners have only two options either to dismiss their employees or deduct their salaries.

If they will resume, they don't need to dismiss the people, but probably there will be a reduction of manpower as I believe the demand will not be as good as before the covid-19, a business that requires big crowd to make money is not good when the virus is still not contain.

Quote from: virasog on May 01, 2020, 09:37:44 AM

I think the 2nd option is much better as employees have hope to resume the work when this pandemic is over.

Like I said, there might be some reduction of employees, casino industry, the physical once will struggle as the economy will not be back easily to its good state.

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Quote from: inanilujimi on May 01, 2020, 08:21:02 AM

many people are experiencing the effects of this pandemic, especially the food industry and many employees are laid off from work, we can only hope that this pandemic ends soon and life returns to normal again.

As the lockdown gets extended more and more people and businesses will suffer. People are losing their jobs and businesses are coming to an end. Since physically casino are closed too, the owners have only two options either to dismiss their employees or deduct their salaries. I think the 2nd option is much better as employees have hope to resume the work when this pandemic is over.

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Quote from: hahay on April 30, 2020, 01:22:41 PM

When lockdown is applied then I don't think there is anything more that can be expected even at the company where we work, because even though the company has a reserve fund that can at least provide to its employees but still, no matter how much the reserve fund owned in the end will not be sufficient to cover every necessities of life for all employees during this lockdown. So in this case I don't think we can complain only to the company, because the main problem is clear because of the outbreak of this virus and we also as employees or workers must be aware of the problems that occur because after we realize we are in a time of global crisis which will all become difficult.

No one expected this to happen though.

They've said it already. Many aren't prepared for this and this includes the workers/employees. We know for a fact that some of the employees are like happy-go-lucky when they got their salary. They don't keep some of their salaries for emergency funds. If they have did it then they will not complain on the employers or in this case the casino owner. If they just kept some money then they will not say that they need their salary or at least give some goods for them.

Quote from: cabron on April 30, 2020, 02:37:06 PM

Its hard to believe there is no vaccine yet actually.

It's a new strain of Corona Virus so it is expected that there are no virus nor vaccine for it at this moment. Scientists are doing everything to make impossible things like having a perfect cure for it in around 12-18 months. This sounds long but that is the shortest time possible that scientists can create a cure for a new virus unless they will do it this time in a shorter time then it will be better. Not hard to believe for me so lets just wait for the cure

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Quote from: Clark05 on May 01, 2020, 08:16:08 AM

Quote from: hahay on April 30, 2020, 01:22:41 PM

When lockdown is applied then I don't think there is anything more that can be expected even at the company where we work, because even though the company has a reserve fund that can at least provide to its employees but still, no matter how much the reserve fund owned in the end will not be sufficient to cover every necessities of life for all employees during this lockdown. So in this case I don't think we can complain only to the company, because the main problem is clear because of the outbreak of this virus and we also as employees or workers must be aware of the problems that occur because after we realize we are in a time of global crisis which will all become difficult.

It is very hard for us on what we are situation right now and I hope if the gambling casino like that help their employees because they parr also why the gambling casino become successful without them who gonna assist to the players and I think it's good to pay back them in this situation but it is only my decision but it's still depends on them what is their decision.

Business minded and greedy management doesn't act that way. Perhaps some of them believe that their employees, even in high-class places, are peasants. It is quite unlikely, I guess, to accept the proposal of these workers because the casino sites are all in a low-profit economy.

But still, I hope those request will gonna be fulfilled by the management since they're the one who makes the business into high-class.

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many people are experiencing the effects of this pandemic, especially the food industry and many employees are laid off from work, we can only hope that this pandemic ends soon and life returns to normal again.

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Quote from: hahay on April 30, 2020, 01:22:41 PM

When lockdown is applied then I don't think there is anything more that can be expected even at the company where we work, because even though the company has a reserve fund that can at least provide to its employees but still, no matter how much the reserve fund owned in the end will not be sufficient to cover every necessities of life for all employees during this lockdown. So in this case I don't think we can complain only to the company, because the main problem is clear because of the outbreak of this virus and we also as employees or workers must be aware of the problems that occur because after we realize we are in a time of global crisis which will all become difficult.

It is very hard for us on what we are situation right now and I hope if the gambling casino like that help their employees because they parr also why the gambling casino become successful without them who gonna assist to the players and I think it's good to pay back them in this situation but it is only my decision but it's still depends on them what is their decision.

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Quote from: bitbunnny on April 21, 2020, 12:39:24 PM

Unfortunately, they are not the only one.
But it's not their fault they are not working, casinos are closed due to governments decisions because of pandemic. So, to my opinion they have the right to compensation and governments should help casinos to pay their employees.

I disagree.

I don't think it's the employers responsibility to pay their staff during the epidemic. Why would they?

They pay their staff for their services, e.g. serving patrons, maintaining security etc. If they are not providing these services, why should they be paid?

This is 100% on the government, not the individual businesses and corps that are losing customers. If companies are forced to pay employees now, they'll be bankrupt by the time everything reopens in a few months.

That would not solve anything long-term.

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The pandemic situation is temporary but it has taught the CEO a gold lesson about the new world work conditions.

There is no new world, things are just temporary and people are just smart enough to find ways to adopt with the current situation while still trying to continue their business, the casino world (physical) will boom again in the future, and that's when the pandemic is over, let's just think that it's a part when they struggle but they'll recover soon.

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Quote from: cabron on April 30, 2020, 02:37:06 PM

Quote from: hahay on April 30, 2020, 01:22:41 PM

When lockdown is applied then I don't think there is anything more that can be expected even at the company where we work, because even though the company has a reserve fund that can at least provide to its employees but still, no matter how much the reserve fund owned in the end will not be sufficient to cover every necessities of life for all employees during this lockdown. So in this case I don't think we can complain only to the company, because the main problem is clear because of the outbreak of this virus and we also as employees or workers must be aware of the problems that occur because after we realize we are in a time of global crisis which will all become difficult.

EVeryone is aware of the sitaution. TIs just pity that we right now are not prepared for it. The last plague was more than decades ago and we already thought it won't happen again because of the techonogy improvements. Its hard to believe there is no vaccine yet actually.

You would hve to wonder when all these scientists today are hurrying to document what they discover a tiny piece of shits for legacy now this virus seem to make them slacky sleep.

Thats what you called nothing can predict on what would be the future be like.Technology does progress but doesnt mean that it can solved out everything fast incase there are instances just like on what happened now.
Nothing on this world does have corresponding cure or solutions but somewhat this era is much more better if we do compare into the past where technology isnt developed too much.
On this situation in talks of casino workers salary support then i dont think that it would really be a mandated nor a responsibility by its owners yet since theres no work then its normal for them to have no salary
but the owner can consider on giving out some temporary help but doesnt mean that it would be on constant basis.

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Quote from: hahay on April 30, 2020, 01:22:41 PM

When lockdown is applied then I don't think there is anything more that can be expected even at the company where we work, because even though the company has a reserve fund that can at least provide to its employees but still, no matter how much the reserve fund owned in the end will not be sufficient to cover every necessities of life for all employees during this lockdown. So in this case I don't think we can complain only to the company, because the main problem is clear because of the outbreak of this virus and we also as employees or workers must be aware of the problems that occur because after we realize we are in a time of global crisis which will all become difficult.

EVeryone is aware of the sitaution. TIs just pity that we right now are not prepared for it. The last plague was more than decades ago and we already thought it won't happen again because of the techonogy improvements. Its hard to believe there is no vaccine yet actually.

You would hve to wonder when all these scientists today are hurrying to document what they discover a tiny piece of shits for legacy now this virus seem to make them slacky sleep.

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When lockdown is applied then I don't think there is anything more that can be expected even at the company where we work, because even though the company has a reserve fund that can at least provide to its employees but still, no matter how much the reserve fund owned in the end will not be sufficient to cover every necessities of life for all employees during this lockdown. So in this case I don't think we can complain only to the company, because the main problem is clear because of the outbreak of this virus and we also as employees or workers must be aware of the problems that occur because after we realize we are in a time of global crisis which will all become difficult.

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Quote from: bitbunnny on April 21, 2020, 12:39:24 PM

Unfortunately, they are not the only one.
But it's not their fault they are not working, casinos are closed due to governments decisions because of pandemic. So, to my opinion they have the right to compensation and governments should help casinos to pay their employees.

This is something which across industries people and workers would be facing it as it is nobody fault neither the owners nor the employees. Now who would help the people is what is the question as some of the owners can make some payment and some may not be able to do it. Now how much government can bail out them is the question as even man countries does not have stimulus money to offer the package to various industries. In the end it is common people who may suffer from it.

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Quote from: Natalim on April 22, 2020, 07:09:46 AM

Completely agree, what's the reason of paying taxes if they can't help people.

That is a very weak argument and you know it. The government can't send freebies to everyone. Those who are on top of the priority list will get the first preference. And you need to remember that the global economies are under severe recession. The government revenues are down, and there is a limit to what they can do here. And also, they need to spend a lot of their funds to keep the pandemic in check.

At some point you are correct but also bear in mind that the government especially democratic ones are being ruled by its people, not their personal stuffs or some sort of it. I don't see anything wrong from people seeking government's help at all, in fact that is their job to keep these people alive most especially in times like this. I get it, government's revenue is down since no one's working for them but every country has its asset, stocked and owned so they can easily sell it to some private individuals. But if the virus continue for 8 months, that's the time that every one should be hustlin' in legal ways at least.

In a perfect world things should work like that, in times of need government should be able to help their population but most governments do not hold large amount of savings and any help that they may send to people is going to come from printing money and we know that this has a damaging effect over the long term on the economy, also the amount of help that they could send is going to be very limited and this crisis is not going to be resolved until a vaccine is found and that is not going to happen in this year.

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Quote from: Casdinyard on April 26, 2020, 01:07:17 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 26, 2020, 09:20:40 AM

Quote from: Natalim on April 22, 2020, 07:09:46 AM

Completely agree, what's the reason of paying taxes if they can't help people.

That is a very weak argument and you know it. The government can't send freebies to everyone. Those who are on top of the priority list will get the first preference. And you need to remember that the global economies are under severe recession. The government revenues are down, and there is a limit to what they can do here. And also, they need to spend a lot of their funds to keep the pandemic in check.

At some point you are correct but also bear in mind that the government especially democratic ones are being ruled by its people, not their personal stuffs or some sort of it. I don't see anything wrong from people seeking government's help at all, in fact that is their job to keep these people alive most especially in times like this. I get it, government's revenue is down since no one's working for them but every country has its asset, stocked and owned so they can easily sell it to some private individuals. But if the virus continue for 8 months, that's the time that every one should be hustlin' in legal ways at least.

They can ask for help from Canada. They weren't very much affected by the virus as far as the media said. Everyone had suffered the same fate while the virus still isn't yet controlled. And if it's going to take up to 8 months, it will all be chaos there as people will have nothing to eat.

The mayor was trying to re-open vegas just recently but the union was also the ones who didn't approve this one. Re-opening Casino just isn't the solution since it will just worsen the corona pandemic. Tough time to be a politician today.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on April 26, 2020, 09:20:40 AM

Quote from: Natalim on April 22, 2020, 07:09:46 AM

Completely agree, what's the reason of paying taxes if they can't help people.

That is a very weak argument and you know it. The government can't send freebies to everyone. Those who are on top of the priority list will get the first preference. And you need to remember that the global economies are under severe recession. The government revenues are down, and there is a limit to what they can do here. And also, they need to spend a lot of their funds to keep the pandemic in check.

At some point you are correct but also bear in mind that the government especially democratic ones are being ruled by its people, not their personal stuffs or some sort of it. I don't see anything wrong from people seeking government's help at all, in fact that is their job to keep these people alive most especially in times like this. I get it, government's revenue is down since no one's working for them but every country has its asset, stocked and owned so they can easily sell it to some private individuals. But if the virus continue for 8 months, that's the time that every one should be hustlin' in legal ways at least.

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