Casino workers, asking for salary during the shutdown - page 6.

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Quote from: desticy on April 20, 2020, 06:23:31 PM

Quote from: verita1 on April 15, 2020, 01:47:29 AM

It is very bad that the employers of the Casinos did not pay their employees. It is inhumane, in such a dire situation that the pandemic has struck, these Casino owners should help the working hand that has made them wealthy. Like all closed businesses today, they are massively laying off their employees. In the midst of all this, I have seen humanitarian aid that they have been sending food to them and also the Trump government has created a plan to send money to Americans in this chaos of Covid19.

Unfortunately this is the face of current capitalism. Around the world, many private organizations refuse to repel forced leave for their employees.
As for me, this perfectly shows the attitude of the organization towards the person who works for it.

Organization does work based on their policy, therefore if it's not on their policy, it needs some big approval from the CEO or the high ranks of the company.
If they are just following based on their policy and the rules of the government, they should not be pressured here, giving aid to their employees is not their responsibility TBH, so employees should be aware of that, instead they have to learn how to save to prepare for an unforeseen situation.

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Quote from: verita1 on April 15, 2020, 01:47:29 AM

It is very bad that the employers of the Casinos did not pay their employees. It is inhumane, in such a dire situation that the pandemic has struck, these Casino owners should help the working hand that has made them wealthy. Like all closed businesses today, they are massively laying off their employees. In the midst of all this, I have seen humanitarian aid that they have been sending food to them and also the Trump government has created a plan to send money to Americans in this chaos of Covid19.

Unfortunately this is the face of current capitalism. Around the world, many private organizations refuse to repel forced leave for their employees.
As for me, this perfectly shows the attitude of the organization towards the person who works for it.

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This is basically how the physical casino business may end up dying in the end. They might just anger unions so much that unions basically have millions of dollars to fight back, one person who was wronged by a casino may not do much but a whole union could do a big damage and if the courts find them right that is even a bigger damage to casinos, all because they wanted to cut some corners and make a bit more profit when they were already making ton of profits.

Online gambling world is getting bigger and bigger anyway so there are less people going to casinos, with this type of war going on between workers and the casinos they worked at, it could cause them to lose a lot more customers to online casinos as well and they might get very small compared to what they used to be.

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Quote from: Mahanton on April 19, 2020, 06:49:02 PM

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Yes, business as usual even in times like this when pandemic hit the world. This kind of business is only concerned with how they can earn more and they don't even have the slightest care about the one who is working with them.

They can help but doesnt mean that they would be the one to sustain out their needs into this entire lockdown duration.

The argument here isn't those who are considerate but those who thought that, helping their employees isn't their responsibility to do so. According to OP, many of these casinos actually helped their employees while some said, isn't their obligation to help as the lockdown also affected their businesses, this isn't justifiable because those employees also need palliatives too. Okay, for those casinos that aren't paying salary to their employees during this lockdown, how do they intend to help their workers?. Gambling platforms around this industry are making huge profits and they should give back to their employees.

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Well! All this can be sorted with mutual understanding. The casino workers must have known how well the employers are making money or gain when work was fully on before they will insist on having salary, if the employers are not capable, they may not make the moves. This pandemic situation was not really prepared for by many. Though all fingers are still not equal because not all of them make money at the same rate. Not withstanding atleast, employers Should help with something since they had nowhere else to go.

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Quote from: peter0425 on April 20, 2020, 09:17:42 AM

actually it is the employees obligation to gather funds for emergency like this and not blaming their employers because they are not giving them money.

It is true, however, how can you obliged an employee to gather funds in this kind of emergency, and what if their salary is only enough to support their daily needs, this will be hard for them. In times like this, employers should at least show that they care about their emplyees who work hard for them.

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Casino workers might be doing the right thing and they totally deserve to get paid during this period but we should not really forget about all workers, this is not about just the casino workers that are getting unpaid leaves, this is much bigger and everyone should be getting money during this period, if the companies can't manage to pay their workers during this period, governments should give them small loans to pay them with zero interest, if those companies can't pay the workers even with the loan, maybe nationlization is not a bad idea, just buy the company as a whole from the government and keep paying people until this is over and continue make it work afterwards for bigger profits in the long run. If companies do not want that to happen, maybe they could find a way to pay with the loans they get instead.

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Quote from: peter0425 on April 20, 2020, 09:17:42 AM

actually it is the employees obligation to gather funds for emergency like this and not blaming their employers because they are not giving them money.

In a job the employer is the king where they can manage everything, in circumstances like this where the company is required to temporarily close, and the company has no income so there is no obligation for employees to ask for salary in these circumstances, unless the employee is still working.

At my place there are already some companies that dismiss their employees while of course it does not get paid, until the employer allows him to work again.

Difficult indeed, when things happen like this do not have money saved.
Complain with others of course it becomes a complicated thing, it's important to have a deposit.

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There are a lot of people today are having some struggles into the world because of the pandemic coronavirus and one of these is our favorite casino we all know that the casino is one of the most crowded places there are a lot of people inside just to want to play gambling and most of the time there is no social distancing because some of them want to play, some of them are just watching some other players how they play and some of them are just visiting and exploring the place. But today casinos now are close because of the lockdown and we are avoiding that the outbreak will not spread rapidly and by that many people getting affected because they don't have enough money and some of their salary already used to pay their bills and other things needed immediately to pay and this is quite not good because some of them are lack of supplies still the thing they want to do is having salary while the business is shutdown it depends on the generosity of the owner if they will do that but I still hoping to set aside the hierarchy it is better to help people too.

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Quote from: angrybirdy on April 18, 2020, 02:23:07 AM

Quote from: pakhitheboss on April 18, 2020, 12:49:55 AM

This is how business work!

They utilise an employee when they needed them the most and when these employee need the business to help them they just ignore them or throw them out.

As a human being this sounds bad but this is the truth. We need to live with it.

Yes, business as usual even in times like this when pandemic hit the world. This kind of business is only concerned with how they can earn more and they don't even have the slightest care about the one who is working with them.

But that is Business mate,that is also the reason why they are becoming richer each year because of their Love of Money and not their employees.

Quote from: Mahanton on April 19, 2020, 06:49:02 PM

Quote from: Becky666 on April 19, 2020, 06:02:13 PM

Quote from: angrybirdy on April 18, 2020, 02:23:07 AM

Quote from: pakhitheboss on April 18, 2020, 12:49:55 AM

Yes, business as usual even in times like this when pandemic hit the world. This kind of business is only concerned with how they can earn more and they don't even have the slightest care about the one who is working with them.

That's life mate, many are the employers that never wanted to see their employees progressing because this act will post a threat to them. Frankly speaking, these employees also need to be Carter for because they ate humans too. We all know how these guys make their money from gambling and should be responsible for the warfare of their employees. Hope that, the management of the involved gambling platform put into consideration the plight of their employees especially during this general lockdown.

They can help but doesnt mean that they would be the one to sustain out their needs into this entire lockdown duration.There were site or business owners who are considerate
into the situation but most of them doesnt really care or does only give out a small portion of help.We cant generalize that all of them arent helping because for sure there are
some that do silently making such move. They cant really just asked for full-pay since we know that they arent working and business arent making any profits now due to lockdown.

actually it is the employees obligation to gather funds for emergency like this and not blaming their employers because they are not giving them money.

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Quote from: verita1 on April 20, 2020, 03:01:53 AM

Two important things that the Coronavirus has revealed to humanity:
1) We are not prepared to face infectious diseases.
2) We cannot save or we do not worry about saving. After the Coronavirus, there will be substantial changes in the world population.

We will never be prepared for a sudden spread of a virus. Especially that there are people who are hard-headed. Even those developed countries with a great health care system, they are still greatly affected by this virus (even more cases than some third world country). It's hard to prepare for an unknown virus.

Not everyone is capable of saving money got emergency purposes because the living expense is much higher than their income.

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Yes, maybe we need to find another job after this pandemic over, and we don't have to go back to them again if we feel they ignore the employee. At least, they can give some support for their employee so that the employee can feel better. I am sure that we can get another job because after it's over, many businesses will need to restart their business so they can operate as usual.

If we receive that kind of treatment, we might think of leaving the company. But it is said in the article that some casino employers are giving their workers their "closing pay" forcing them to file unemployment. Which is kinda sad since they need the money more in this situation. But after this virus, instead of going back to work, they have no choice but to find another job.

Maybe after this, their life will be better if they can get another job and trying to forget the old place because they don't give supports to their employee. This moment forces everybody to be at home, and they need to figure out how they can survive from these situations so they will have a chance to get another opportunity in the future. Well, that is sad, but they cannot do anything except accepting.

I just hope that those who were forced to file unemployment can find a stable job and an employer who will take care of their workers once there is an emergency.

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Quote from: plvbob0070 on April 18, 2020, 08:48:02 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on April 18, 2020, 04:39:18 AM

Yes, maybe we need to find another job after this pandemic over, and we don't have to go back to them again if we feel they ignore the employee. At least, they can give some support for their employee so that the employee can feel better. I am sure that we can get another job because after it's over, many businesses will need to restart their business so they can operate as usual.

If we receive that kind of treatment, we might think of leaving the company. But it is said in the article that some casino employers are giving their workers their "closing pay" forcing them to file unemployment. Which is kinda sad since they need the money more in this situation. But after this virus, instead of going back to work, they have no choice but to find another job.

Maybe after this, their life will be better if they can get another job and trying to forget the old place because they don't give supports to their employee. This moment forces everybody to be at home, and they need to figure out how they can survive from these situations so they will have a chance to get another opportunity in the future. Well, that is sad, but they cannot do anything except accepting.

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Two important things that the Coronavirus has revealed to humanity:
1) We are not prepared to face infectious diseases.
2) We cannot save or we do not worry about saving. After the Coronavirus, there will be substantial changes in the world population.

I have read in a post that Sheldon Adelson, owner of Las Vegas Sands, claims that he has paid his employees 2 months and he hopes to reopen his business when possible.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/01/adelson-im-paying-all-my-workers-for-2-months-so-should-any-business-that-can/

He has also donated 2M masks to health workers in NY, Nevada.
Due to the high rate of people infected with the Coronavirus in the USA, health centers are running out of protection kits for health professionals.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/31/sheldon-adelson-donates-2m-masks-to-heath-workers-in-new-york-nevada/

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Quote from: Betwrong on April 19, 2020, 07:36:50 AM

Quote from: Renampun on April 16, 2020, 05:17:36 PM

Offline casino entrepreneurs surely confused about this...
Paying employee salaries is a worker's obligation according to the wage and labor agreement but the current conditions are different. Workers do not work, as usual, not paying a full salary is the best solution imo.

I agree, depending on the country, some basic money should be given to workers so that they could buy food and necessities.

It is not mandatory and there is no specific amount,they will Give the amount they want to without any issue.

Quote from: Betwrong on April 19, 2020, 07:36:50 AM

But it's not an obligation of casino owners only.

Exactly this is true,they are not oblige and will only Help depend on their desire and heart.

Quote from: Betwrong on April 19, 2020, 07:36:50 AM

The owners should pay a part but another part should be paid by the government.

Yeah let the government do their part and the employers give if they want but never to force them.

Quote from: Betwrong on April 19, 2020, 07:36:50 AM

Where all those taxes go, after all? It's partly to not let people die of hunger in times like these.

Taxes goes to the government projects,and there are many things that government is supporting even without this pandemic.

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Quote from: BlackFor3st on April 10, 2020, 06:30:20 AM

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In our country, the government are asking for employers to pay their employee a one month salary during the lock down and this is to help the employee in surviving the lock down. If the government in Las Vegas will do the same then it can surely help the employee to get their salary but if not the employee will have to wait for their employers whether they are kind enough to give some money to their affected employee.

this is indeed a difficult thing for the employer to do because basically the employer does not get the income and on the other hand, the employee asks for a salary. logically, who would like to pay the money to the employee?

In my place, there is no tolerance for this, when the lockdown is enforced, the employees are temporarily suspended until an unspecified time limit and do not get a payday unless they get help from the local government is not much, maybe just enough for two weeks to one month.

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Quote from: MCobian on April 19, 2020, 06:32:46 PM

In my opinion, casino owners should pay their employees salaries in difficult situations like now. Because of a crisis like now cooperation
is needed by all parties, it cannot just rely on government assistance. All casinos should, especially in America, be able to pay workers
even though they don't work. Because I believe the benefits gained by casino owners are huge.

Yes but it is at their own dicretion. We cant coerce them to do so even owners are earning huge on their business. If they have concern to the employees there's no need to ask, during this time we can see those people that has a good intention to help because we know how hard the situation is.

Nevertheless its a must to save so you have money to count onnin times like this.

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Quote from: Becky666 on April 19, 2020, 06:02:13 PM

Quote from: angrybirdy on April 18, 2020, 02:23:07 AM

Quote from: pakhitheboss on April 18, 2020, 12:49:55 AM

Yes, business as usual even in times like this when pandemic hit the world. This kind of business is only concerned with how they can earn more and they don't even have the slightest care about the one who is working with them.

That's life mate, many are the employers that never wanted to see their employees progressing because this act will post a threat to them. Frankly speaking, these employees also need to be Carter for because they ate humans too. We all know how these guys make their money from gambling and should be responsible for the warfare of their employees. Hope that, the management of the involved gambling platform put into consideration the plight of their employees especially during this general lockdown.

They can help but doesnt mean that they would be the one to sustain out their needs into this entire lockdown duration.There were site or business owners who are considerate
into the situation but most of them doesnt really care or does only give out a small portion of help.We cant generalize that all of them arent helping because for sure there are
some that do silently making such move. They cant really just asked for full-pay since we know that they arent working and business arent making any profits now due to lockdown.

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In my opinion, casino owners should pay their employees salaries in difficult situations like now. Because of a crisis like now cooperation
is needed by all parties, it cannot just rely on government assistance. All casinos should, especially in America, be able to pay workers
even though they don't work. Because I believe the benefits gained by casino owners are huge.

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Quote from: angrybirdy on April 18, 2020, 02:23:07 AM

Quote from: pakhitheboss on April 18, 2020, 12:49:55 AM

Yes, business as usual even in times like this when pandemic hit the world. This kind of business is only concerned with how they can earn more and they don't even have the slightest care about the one who is working with them.

That's life mate, many are the employers that never wanted to see their employees progressing because this act will post a threat to them. Frankly speaking, these employees also need to be Carter for because they ate humans too. We all know how these guys make their money from gambling and should be responsible for the warfare of their employees. Hope that, the management of the involved gambling platform put into consideration the plight of their employees especially during this general lockdown.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on April 19, 2020, 04:05:46 PM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on April 18, 2020, 04:09:44 AM

I'm sorry but we are not in haven and casino workers are not angels. they have their own problems and ofc they need the salary. like everyone in the world they have family, friends and kids to feed them. while you expect them to don't ask for salary how they must eat? and how they must live? This a task for every government to support people.

This really boils down to the capability of each country to provide the basic necessity to it's citizen. Per experience, here in our place the government declares that they will only help the poorest of the poor since we have limited funds and they are also calling all of the elites to help in their own way. While i saw a vlog in the UK, the vlogger which is an employee of a university, he said that their government is refunding 80% of their salary while they are on a shutdown. Bottom line, help from the government is mandatory but varies on the capabilities also of that government. There are rich government while many also are poor.

This is indeed the reality and we know that each country arent equal when it comes to financial aspect - where are poor and there a rich.
and thats why we do see different situations to those people who have been affected which do able to get some support and also to those
who havent get one.

Same here on my country where the poor had been prioritize and even to those who are on middle range status arent included to the list
to be given some help which is awful but quite understandable yet the help is much more needed for those who dont have any money
to buy their own food. Hopefully this wont last long...

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