Topic: Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw - page 48. (Read 12762 times)

Well if I'm abroad what the KYC they would ask me for is my US passport right?  However, what about my address?  If I have a non us address utility bill, that is fine right since well I'm outside the US and not using a vpn?  I mean there is no point of me sending a US bank account as a utility bill right because I'm not in the US and also my IP address will show that?


So for gambling sites I play on when outside the US... I'm not talking about crypto betting sites, I have no issue playing there because I have a non US utility bill that I use because that is where I stay at when outside the US.  But with crypto sites, will there be an issue?  Would it be better sending them KYC first with my US passport and my non US utility bill and once it's good, then I can play and withdraw without any issues in the future?  Thus I want my account to be clear for withdraws before I even deposit.  Does that make sense?  Do sites allow you to do that?  I know many gambling sites... noncrypto would allow you to deposit into the site but once you request a withdraw, they ask for KYC.  Again I have no issue with KYC but any issue with being an American but abroad is my question.  There is no issue with that on non crypto gambling sites I play on.  And when I say non crypto gambling sites... I mean sites that don't allow betting amounts to be in crypto.  Some of these sites do allow crypto as deposit/withdraw... but everything is in usd if you know what I mean?


I have no intention of using a vpn while abroad.  If I was in the US, I have no intention of using it abroad.  The thing is I'm abroad outside a lot so the address I would use would be a non US address so would that be an issue with these crypto sites?

Is nitrobetting the same as nitrogensports?


Betcoin was always that name?


So with these sites you only deposit/withdraw and bet with btc?  And not usd or euro correct?  What about using other altcoins like ltc to deposit/withdraw or they don't allow that?

I would agree with you but the casino needs to be covering their bases because if the users that would take them to court, they would probably argue that they were not reminded or that the casino probably added the KYC clause on the Terms and Condition agreement after they have registered which is not a likely thing for them to do. There is probably a case similar to this already in existence because this kind of case happening could happen in other scenarios although it is probably different in a way that this is gambling because this could be argued like a breach in contract.

I believe @ jerry0 is asking for the no-KYC casinos that allow US players, but I strongly advise him against this or do that at his own risk. Be sure that you know the integrity of the casinos you want to deal with before doing so, and for them not to allow KYC means that they are not regulated, they could have too much illegality they are perpetrating, which I do not think good people themselves would want to associate with.

Come to think of it, what are people running away from when it comes to KYC? It seems people are taking it farther than it is actually. These people do KYC elsewhere in other fields and with fiat dealings because it's compulsory, so why is it difficult when it comes to crypto-related dealings including gambling?

Lastly, "rarely" doesn't mean "certainty," I hope the guy also note that.

If they are abroad and not asked to perform KYC on beforehand, then they will be able to play. But it can be tricky because if they win big they will have to give their data and, if they weren't allowed to play, they'd lose all the winnings (and the deposit too).

If they are in their homeland, then we all know that VPNs can work sometimes, but it's the same in the end: read the T&Cs and, even if they don't mention VPNs, take into account that their policy could change at anytime, and also what I mentioned in the previous paragraph about the KYC.

Betcoin and Nitrobetting allow US and rarely KYC.

What casinos allow US players to play on and ask for KYC for register and for withdraw?


What about US players but they are abroad?

It's similar to jaywalking, it's the same law everywhere but not enforced in some places. KYC has the same rules everywhere, some casinos don't enforce. Play at the casinos that don't KYC.

The first thing a gambler should do is to read through the terms and conditions of the casino and also be able to understand them at all times, be for you even make an account on such a casino,  and this is what most casino users don't understand,  some of them just go ahead with account creation even though they have not properly read and understand the terms and conditions of the service and how the level of their KYC have been.

Before accepting the term of service of the casino we must first of all be willing to hand out our documents for verifications because this is the most important stage that always gets gamblers stock at some point if they don't understand what really is happening.

That's exactly right and that's the main problem in this board.
1. Gamblers do not like KYC and prefer not to do it, though want to gamble...So they'll agree to a tos, no matter what it says.
2. No one wants to read a long pile of text that they don't understand, which if they ultimately do not agree with, means that they can't use the service they want to.

Social media platforms are a similar concept. "Want to use us? Sure, but we're going to exploit the s**t out of your data and privacy if you do!"
Gambling platforms "Want to use us? Sure, but we'll make you hand over every sensitive document and hold your money hostage in exchange for your privacy if you win..."
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"..." and if you lose you can keep your privacy...until the day you win it all back with profit (if ever)"

Totally agree with this on which it is really that  common for most gamblers that they would really be skipping out this kind of thing most of the time when they do register on which reading up those pile of text will really be just ignored and will check out that check box right away without even tending to read up those important things until the problem or issues do come then this is the only time they would be reading it up again.lol. Im not really that denying this stuff yet im guilty on this one on which most of the time i do really not tend to read up when it comes to tos and i cant blame
out people on having to because reading up a long pile of text is not really something that a very interesting thing to be done, we are eager to play directly even if it means that
we do skip out on reading up those terms in the first place.

I'm pretty sure most casinos stated they require a KYC and any related verification requirements within their site. When the user signs up, they must accept the terms of service or terms and conditions. Any related information regarding KYC must be stated over there, so they did not necessarily need to state it clearly because it has already been stated on the terms. The problem is most users are ignorant or do not even bother to look over the documents that they agreed/accepted upon.

Completing KYC verification before playing or making a deposit is only good if the gambler has chosen a reputable platform and has made up their mind that it will be the only or the main gambling platform for them and they will always use this platform for their activities because in such a case, the user wouldn't have to worry about KYC or anything later during their gambling journey unless the casino asks them to provide extra identification later on.

However, if a person is casually creating an account and they know that they don't stick to a single platform for a very long time, they shouldn't complete their identity verification if the casino doesn't ask them about it because some casinos will allow gamblers to play and withdraw without it if the amounts involved aren't significantly high.

With some of them are telling it at the beginning and on their threads/anns that they're asking for KYC.

That is why many don't want to register on them if even with the first withdrawal, they're asking for it. While for some good ones, they're not asking for it but they states that it is going to be asked whenever they can.

So, it's like a random compliance that every gambler should be prepared for. If there are non kyc casinos that you prefer and we can go, right, that we should stick there for a while if we want to.

It is simple, always observe a KYC requirement on every licensed centralized casino.  They might not ask their player of KYC but it is always stated on their TOS that they might require KYC in some cases.  Like the one stated by you, when the withdrawal threshold had been breached triggering the need for KYC.   This is more likely winning a huge amount that manual verification and the need to perform KYC is needed.


Just avoid casino that we are not familiar with to avoid being scammed.  If we are curious about a certain new casino, make sure that we only deposit a small amount to try their service.  It will greatly help if we can read reviews about the casino.  Just make sure that we have proven that the casino is reputable enough before we deposit huge amounts of money.

It's not always immediate. It's the same as if you did no KYC. They don't even look at it until you ask for a withdrawal. Then they may ask for a video selfie. There's no reason to do KYC up front unless required.

These types of things are quite nice to know and apply, I personally think like you and in fact I have applied it, I have very few casinos in which I have fulfilled my KYC, they are the most reliable casinos, the ones with the most reputation and those who have more options to win for sure, because there are many places where you basically have a lot to win and to do the KYC I don't think it's something reliable, I'm sure that Many people stick to that, but as well There are others who don't comply with KYC because they don't like it , which I very much agree with , and then they come across the problem that when they have to do more KYC when it comes to checking it is quite annoying , that's what I've always said. That said , you are not allowed to do this type of thing like this on the Part of the casinos.

There are many who have to do things in the casinos and realize that the most important thing for them is the time in which they want and can make the withdrawals, and there is nothing more stressful that cannot be done because the KYC has to be done , and Everything would be excellent if everything is done and confirmed Correctly after sending the documents, something like what some brokers do, the bad thing begins when that is not respected and then it begins to take more than 2 days, because if the person needs the money already? When the deposit is made, it is Immediate, so what is expected is that the withdrawals can be made immediately, because the casino may consider that yes, the requirement is needed and everything, but an opinion must also be placed on the side of the gambler and please him, because it is a way of doing things better, and thus the person is satisfied with the treatment of the casino, because I return and repeat , when things are about money, very few people have the patience to put up with those things , and Because it's not about money, many change, others turn because it is their money and other People's money or other People's money must be given at once , that is normal.

So having some research would be the key and its true that there are still platforms on which you could really be able to make bet and make some withdrawal without needing any KYC.
But somewhat on the time that you do able to hit up such threshold then you would really be that basically be asked out one on which it do becomes standard nowadays. Just like been said that it wont really be that taking too much effort when making up some research before you would be making some deposit on which it would really be just that normal to have that kind of approach because if you dont
then you are really just that putting yourself on such trouble and this is something that you should be avoiding.

Tons of scam sites that existing and if you arent that careful and dont make any research then you are really putting up yourself on great trouble or danger and this is something that
we must avoid. Taking up some time when it comes on researching things wont really be that a bad idea because we are talking money on here on which it is normal that we would be that mindful
about those informations.

If you are not careful then who else can save you from some of the dirty tricks that are deliberately created by fraudulent casino owners to gain greater profits! Topics have repeatedly appeared discussing how to pay great attention when making a deposit on a gambling site, don't let small carelessness make you fail to make a profit, read carefully the rules made by the gambling site before you make a deposit, don't be lazy.

I understand, but you have to give it your all, because KYC is now not obligatory, there is no other way to do things better, you just have to know which platform it is left on, because if it is left on a platform that is not secure it is only It is the responsibility of the player to do it, it is better to leave it in well-known casinos that have a high reputation, now Rollbit is very good to see with its Dual Arena, very similar to Runescape, only this version is much more fun, not complicated, more options to win, without so much playing time, only the things that are done so that you can win, I recommend it, Rollbit has great options to win, and that is what you should take advantage of, that they are reliable gaming platforms, that have how to respond In the face of problems that arise, and with a very good reputation, and one of the best casinos on the forum, that is what you should take advantage of, not stay risking with other casinos that do not have the same good management.