Topic: Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw - page 43. (Read 12703 times)

if KYC is needed, it should be requested as soon as people register. Asking for KYC only when people have funds stuck is a douchebag move, and any company that does this will lose me as a client.

The casino scam case has been going on for quite a long time. and from the start we were warned, especially for forum members. Their campaign promotion on the forum also seems to have finished. I thought the site had been closed, or maybe it was still running.

but in the case of requesting KYC verification before withdrawing a certain amount does not only happen in scam casinos.
because casinos have their procedures, if your account has suspicious activity, of course, they will ask for KYC verification. especially in large withdrawal amounts. I know some gamblers think this is unfair, but we have to read the conditions at the casino when we play there. maybe we missed something.

Different users are willing to accept different things and many are not willing to accept many things.  Everyone tries to be careful especially with the kyc document because no one wants to submit their personal document to any casino site.  Due to which upfront kyc is not preferred by most users.  But when someone is a big winning then kyc issue is not a big problem for him.  And this is why casino sites avoid upfront kyc and when someone is going to withdraw a big fund they demand kyc because they know that everyone has to do kyc at that time. And then everyone happily did kyc

Casinos need deposits for them to continue to run. Any casino where withdrawal exceeds deposits, it means winding up. So, you hardly see any casino that rejects deposits for any reason. They will gladly accept the money, by then you will be willing to abide by any instructions in order to have the money back.

This is why it is also advisable to first complete KYC before you make deposit. Sometimes, people procrastinates KYC untill they are caught in the web. However, we know that there are also bad players among casinos who are there to still at any given opportunity.

It is depending on the users, some users are fine with upfront KYC (before deposit) and some are not.
Some users are even prefering to have upfront KYC than do it later on withdraw especially if KYC is a must to withdraw any amount.
I was someone who against KYC years ago but I can accept it now because it becomes common thing now due to regulation or license.
In general, players should be ready for KYC these days regardless it is upfront or later because it is the same actually, just a matter of time.

Have seen this many times before and the most famous one is 1xbit scam that have been letting their players deposit , play and lose  but once that player won and need to withdraw? automatically banned that players and will accused of cheating 

I must to have some proves to name it. In any other way it would be just words and someone will say that i`m a liar. I tested it using several accounts for false data and the situation was always same, but it can`t prove my words seriously.


I don`t think that we can change it. After the gambler get KYC, he think that he don`t have problems with the casino and continue gambling. Until he get some restriction like bet limit. And they`ll use this trick as long as it possible, telling us that they are struggle with the cheaters

To me, those guys in the casinos don't Seem transparent to me , because they are Obviously playing with us and they are making sure that the things they do can be Obvious enough so that they don't work well, I can go into a casino and if they do Something like that to me , I Won't come Back. I'm going to go again, and by the way I'm going there and I'm Talking to my friends not to go Near that casino, what bothers me about casinos like this is that the majority of People who can find them are bad enough for most of us who like Casinos and I'm to Criticize Strongly when they Deceive me , Because I don't like it, they Play with the things that one can do, in this Order of things we when we feel deceived and the caisnouqe do it and do the most to them, it is something Annoying , it is also Annoying when the KYC They Take a long time to Implement it , because they Make you wait a long time and they do not Resolve quickly for the Player to Settle down and Start Playing so that he loses Money and if he Succeeds, then these Types of casinos are very cheating for me, and those who do this type of Practice has nothing in Common.

At the end of the day , a casino who does things Wrong can Realize that When it comes to doing something wrong and taking Advantage , those who lose the most are them , there is no other way, they are the ones who lose the most, I could see that when it comes to to make a casino like this, I don't go , or that's Why I'm very Attentive to the Forum bits to See which Casinos are Actually worth the money, there are Many Reviewers who Always Give and offer the best for us , but when they are honest, when they Really say that before making a Withdrawal they have to Comply with the KYC, but as I have said on many Occasions, before Making any Deposit , the casinos should require the KYC from the Players before making any Deposit , and for this they have What to do and Change the Mentality of Casinos and that is something Difficult , I think that for that to happen there has to be many Crises or something in the Casinos.

I think it would have been brave enough for you to name such casinos, after all, this is a community where the truth is supposed to be revealed to guide others. I would have just named the casinos if I were sure of it if I were you, to avoid it, they shouldn't have done it if it is so bad on their part to reveal what they had done. Aside from that, it's true that casinos are strategists, not only them, it's every company that deals with customers and earns money through their deposits. They all have their ways to pretend and strike when they have the opportunity. However, the customers are to be blamed at times, most people are just adults but they are not wise, which is why they fall victim most times. The exception to this are those who had done their KYC a long time ago but because of one reason or the other telling them to add to the information submitted.

In my experience, those who are often victims of this are the ones that are so proficient in gambling, they are threats to the house. But this is never fair, to say the least. But to those who believe they want to keep their identity secret or would not do KYC from the beginning, I blame them most, this is so ugly and the end can't be good for them, especially when the casino is now tossing them up and down and starts rejecting their documents that they would have accepted if the person did the KYC from the beginning. This is not new and I have witnessed lots of them, but it's not me, it's other people. They will start looking for one excuse or the other just to deny it. This happens if the person wants to make a somewhat reasonable high withdrawal.

If sites require KYC at the time of initial account registration, users will consider it a hassle and avoid using the site, which is why a strategy of casino sites is to not require any KYC during registration and offer a small limit without any KYC initially.  to deposit  Then if they are attracted to that site and want to deposit a large amount or luckily gamble with that small amount to win something big then those sites demand kyc.  For this, before registering any site, you must be aware of all the conditions of that site.

Except the alternative one is looking for is a decentralized casino that functions and operate like Uniswap, pancakeswap, chainge.finance and other complete decentralized platforms, else, on centralized casino, there will always be a chance that a player will be asked to verify his or her account upon winning a good amount of money and requesting a withdrawal.

Centralized casinos doesn't have to be regulated before they are compel or force kyc verification on a user. For the registered and regulated casinos, there reason for requesting kyc verification from their users after a big win is understandable based on the regulatory laws governing the gambling industry.

But for the unregistered and unregulated casinos, which usually means that the casino in question is not big enough yet, they still can force a user to pass kyc verification if the user wins a business threatening amount of money, some casinos in this category use kyc to frustrate their users into on their own, forfeiting the won money back to the casino, and simply calling them a scam and moving on. And meanwhile for the casino, their business still goes on and may also do same to another user who again, win an amount money the casino thinks is a threat to their business.

So, the best is for us to always choose a well reputable casino, pass kyc verification and start playing with peace of mind.

Indeed. Regulated casinos will sooner or later ask their customers to verify their identity to continue playing or to be able to withdraw, and this is not new anymore. So expect such thing will happen if you're playing in centralized casinos. Therefore, much better to KYC first before making your first deposit to make sure you're already verified because who knows you might end up winning a decent amount. But be sure you are dealing with a reputable casinos. Anyway, it is still our choice if we don't want to submit our private information because we are free to look for alternative.

Really disappointing but these days, we have to prepare for that as they will be able to ask you KYC anytime. That is why it is better to choose a legit and reputable site so if they ask for that we don't bother and worry about complying with it knowing that they will keep it and not use it for other purposes.
Nowadays, it is an urge by the government as well for casinos to do that in order to avoid fraud and other illegal transactions, we have to admit that it was a drill for them otherwise, the government will stop their operation. We have to admit that our privacy is soon to be over, we can't hide anymore.

It is just a strategy. Casino wants to get new gamblers and their money, but someone don`t like KYC, someone more don`t want to wait KYC, etc. And the moment of cheating - if the gambler win, casino can KYC him for a long time and as result can say that he has some mistakes in his data. I don`t want to name any casino, but i know several with such strategy.

Everything would really be listed or would be put up into their terms and conditions and this is why it would be always recommended that you should be reading up TOS
whenever you are playing into something new platform because problems and issues would be raised up or could happen if you do violate something on which it is normal
that they would be getting or locking those funds or account if they've seen that you had violated something.

Just like on what others been saying that you would be saving up yourself with those potential issues if you have just done your part
at the same time you had chosen up those reputable sites or platforms which the community is really liking to hand out.

Unless it is not a standard KYC format, there is no way you will not be revealing your full identity, which includes your facial recognition. All must be in their database along with your valid information which makes KYC genuine, not otherwise. Although I can't answer for some cases, but with the little I know, it doesn't work like you have advised. How can a customer be given the casino the idea of the KYC style he would want the casino to allow for him? I don't think so. To make it thorough, most casinos even at the full verification of the account of some users, would still ask for an additional document for some reasons, especially if the money the person is withdrawing is much, or they believe that this person is a potential threat due to the spate of his winning or for many other reasons. Needless to mention that all of these casinos are reputable ones, and if reputable casinos could get to that level for those who had done the KYC already, how much more they would do to those who did it partially?

To some casinos, they will just lure you into depositing your money and you would believe everything is fine until you want to withdraw that big money. It is then that you would know the bad part of an incomplete KYC. They might initially cooperate with you so that you can deposit the money, but in the end, they will start quoting the AML act in relation to the T&C for you which by then you would have no choice. To avoid this nonsense, I always advise people to do their KYC duly as and when due. They can do it and complete it fully before they start depositing their money instead of betting and having a doubtful mind about whether or not the house will pay their withdrawals.

I agree, it is dumb for a casino not to KYC a player before they sign up, because they could deposit their own money/receive a tip, and try to withdraw but that money is just gone. Makes me think some casinos are thieves, such as roobet. Happened to me, but I ended up just KYCing, but for people who don’t have it available, they just have frozen money.

Most of the casinos spells out whether KYC is need or not in their terms

However if they find something suspicious with the IP they will surely ask for KYC

Request everyone to read through the terms carefully so as not to loose out at the time of withdrawal

      -  In these times, is KYC a big deal in a casino here in the crypto gambling business? For me, that's not a big deal, and I also think that even other crypto gamblers may agree with what I'm saying.

As long as the crypto gambling casino is fine, even though it is regulated and established here and has existed here for several years, I don't see any problem with it, as long as you don't put a large amount of money into a casino platform.

Absolutely mate and we can not deny the fact that many casino nowadays who are doing this kind of scenario which is they will ask little information when you are  entering in their casino but in the end of the day with a gambler want to withdraw his/her earnings in that casino then  the casino itself want to ask more About private informations from the gamblers. And thats the reason why other gambler didn't want to play on those casino who are asking more KYC.