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sr. member
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"only 5" :p

yup - only Tongue ...

tomorrow im looking at the new warehouse - and hoping it is suitable ...

if so - thefarm will be moved and will be running again ... the redesign ( for thegrid ) can start - and when thats complete - thefarm will be growing steadily ...

so 'only' will be a reality in the coming months ...

still looking for a mining dev to develop the miner i need ... that is a long term project though - as that will not be simple ...

#crysx

Pretty sure we're all looking for a developer to develop the miner we need... Still missing a dual miner.

yup ... would be nice ...

#crysx
sr. member
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however - the 6 card issue is ONLY with the 980ti cards ... it seems even the amd 280x oc / 7970 cards ( one and the same ) never had that issue either ... 6 cards and no problem ...

im sure its a bios issue - as ive seen 8 gpus in a single system run by an expensive supermicro motherboard designed ( with a large capable bios ) for such things in hpc servers ...

but i will research your suggestion - as it could also be an issue with the way the 6th 980ti card is allocated in the bios / motherboard ...

tanx ...

#crysx

I like puzzles like this. Have you had 6 cards working in the same rig as the one currently failing with 6x 980ti?
A rig that previously worked would have the correct BIOS settings already.

I'll jump ahead assuming you have already proven your HW and SW and know where I'm leading, It may be the number
and model of card that is the problem. 980ti's have 6 GB mem so that is 36 GB to support. Just speculating, I don't know if adding RAM or swap would help.

if you're not yet fully invested in the 980ti you may want to wait a week for the 1080



I believe this is the 980Ti problem ( V 6th card ) . ( but that's for the miner. And if OS do not see 6th card - jumped riser might help.

Any time I cross a power of 2 boundary I get scared. 5 cards keeps it to 32 GiB.

you know ... its funny that i cant remember whether i DID test it on a different motherboard or not ... which would usually indicate that i didnt ...

so im going to pull one of the other motherboards from the previously working 6card 750ti systems - and replace the current motherboard for a test with the 980ti systems ...

i have it still for another few weeks before i have to give it back - so better now than never i guess ...

if anyone has successfully run 6 x 980ti ( whichever brand ) cards in one machine - i would appreciate you contacting me ...

#crysx

I saw Asrock released a new BIOS v2.30. Did you try flashing it already? Also disabling unnecessary things in bios like LPT, COM, audio and set PCIex to gen1 might help...

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/H81%20Pro%20BTC/?cat=Download&os=BIOS

bios update - does nothing mate ...

well - does nothing to the issue anyway ...

#crysx
legendary
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8 pin gpu and pcie 8 different ... and the 970gtx  only needs 2 6 pin on power but has 1 6 pin and 1 8 pin.
Which layout is correct? I don't know.


Don't confuse the CPU power 2x4 pin with GPU 8 pin. Plug the six pin cables into the 8 pin GPU connectors,
just make sure they keys are ligned up. And make sure you connect the CPU 4 or 8 pins to your mobo.
I know that Smiley I have 2 980ti and 1 970 gtx running.
The thing is why the difference on the 2x 8 pin  non cpu?
One says some type of voltage control.

Two extra ground wires, almost always wired to pin 7. No one really knows what they're there for.

More ground, that's it. I use 8 pin mobo to 2 x 8 pin GPU adapters for 5 x 980s on 1 PSU...
legendary
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8 pin gpu and pcie 8 different ... and the 970gtx  only needs 2 6 pin on power but has 1 6 pin and 1 8 pin.
Which layout is correct? I don't know.


Don't confuse the CPU power 2x4 pin with GPU 8 pin. Plug the six pin cables into the 8 pin GPU connectors,
just make sure they keys are ligned up. And make sure you connect the CPU 4 or 8 pins to your mobo.
I know that Smiley I have 2 980ti and 1 970 gtx running.
The thing is why the difference on the 2x 8 pin  non cpu?
One says some type of voltage control.

Two extra ground wires, almost always wired to pin 7. No one really knows what they're there for.
legendary
Activity: 3164
Merit: 1003
8 pin gpu and pcie 8 different ... and the 970gtx  only needs 2 6 pin on power but has 1 6 pin and 1 8 pin.
Which layout is correct? I don't know.


Don't confuse the CPU power 2x4 pin with GPU 8 pin. Plug the six pin cables into the 8 pin GPU connectors,
just make sure they keys are ligned up. And make sure you connect the CPU 4 or 8 pins to your mobo.
I know that Smiley I have 2 980ti and 1 970 gtx running.
The thing is why the difference on the 2x 8 pin  non cpu?
One says some type of voltage control.
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1114
8 pin gpu and pcie 8 different ... and the 970gtx  only needs 2 6 pin on power but has 1 6 pin and 1 8 pin.
Which layout is correct? I don't know.


Don't confuse the CPU power 2x4 pin with GPU 8 pin. The PSU cables have a combined 6+2 cable,
just use the 6. The CPU cable is 4+4 and needs to be connected to the motherboard.
legendary
Activity: 3164
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8 pin gpu and pcie 8 different ... and the 970gtx  only needs 2 6 pin on power but has 1 6 pin and 1 8 pin.
Which layout is correct? I don't know.
legendary
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I ran across this.  what is wrong with this picture?
Seems wrong. Look at the 8 pin.
My 970 is still on the shelf .. it maybe the psu.

I give up, you tell me.
legendary
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I ran across this.  what is wrong with this picture?
Seems wrong. Look at the 8 pin.
My 970 is still on the shelf .. it maybe the psu.
legendary
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polaris vs pascal, vega will be on october, announced probably dunno about release



I'll believe this when I see it. Considering AMD is probably a few months out from launch, bit early to see leak numbers. We'll probably see a paper launch at computex though.

That seems a bit fast too, considering Polaris is supposed to be AMDs midrange lineup, it's hard to imagine it matching pace with a 1080/1070.
But what can the 1080/1070 as far as hashpower? Compared to the 980ti? thx



1080 on left and 980ti on right. Not sure how accurate and only shows it in sha256.

https://compubench.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=compu15d&did1=33974771&os1=Windows&api1=cl&hwtype1=dGPU&hwname1=NVIDIA+GeForce+GTX+1080&did2=26277507&os2=Windows&api2=cl&hwtype2=dGPU&hwname2=NVIDIA+GeForce+GTX+980+Ti

Link so you can can play around with it. Just click "x" on either card at top and you can change cards to compare. make sure if you change a card you go back and change the OS or the numbers will be skewed.
legendary
Activity: 3164
Merit: 1003
polaris vs pascal, vega will be on october, announced probably dunno about release



I'll believe this when I see it. Considering AMD is probably a few months out from launch, bit early to see leak numbers. We'll probably see a paper launch at computex though.

That seems a bit fast too, considering Polaris is supposed to be AMDs midrange lineup, it's hard to imagine it matching pace with a 1080/1070.
But what can the 1080/1070 as far as hashpower? Compared to the 980ti? thx
legendary
Activity: 3164
Merit: 1003

however - the 6 card issue is ONLY with the 980ti cards ... it seems even the amd 280x oc / 7970 cards ( one and the same ) never had that issue either ... 6 cards and no problem ...

im sure its a bios issue - as ive seen 8 gpus in a single system run by an expensive supermicro motherboard designed ( with a large capable bios ) for such things in hpc servers ...

but i will research your suggestion - as it could also be an issue with the way the 6th 980ti card is allocated in the bios / motherboard ...

tanx ...

#crysx

I like puzzles like this. Have you had 6 cards working in the same rig as the one currently failing with 6x 980ti?
A rig that previously worked would have the correct BIOS settings already.

I'll jump ahead assuming you have already proven your HW and SW and know where I'm leading, It may be the number
and model of card that is the problem. 980ti's have 6 GB mem so that is 36 GB to support. Just speculating, I don't know if adding RAM or swap would help.

if you're not yet fully invested in the 980ti you may want to wait a week for the 1080



I believe this is the 980Ti problem ( V 6th card ) . ( but that's for the miner. And if OS do not see 6th card - jumped riser might help.

Any time I cross a power of 2 boundary I get scared. 5 cards keeps it to 32 GiB.

you know ... its funny that i cant remember whether i DID test it on a different motherboard or not ... which would usually indicate that i didnt ...

so im going to pull one of the other motherboards from the previously working 6card 750ti systems - and replace the current motherboard for a test with the 980ti systems ...

i have it still for another few weeks before i have to give it back - so better now than never i guess ...

if anyone has successfully run 6 x 980ti ( whichever brand ) cards in one machine - i would appreciate you contacting me ...

#crysx
Your lucky I only get 2 980ti 1 970 and 1 750ti  max
Of course its a 2 core cpu.
If I had a 4 core it would work with 5 cards no more imo.
So you may need a higher core.
My 970 is a paperweight  and I'll never buy another one and I'll never buy ANTEC psu ever again.
So I had 2 problems. And the 970 clocks are at 1519 ghz  I even tried underclocking -280 ghz no luck.
Someone posted about a 2 core doing good on something ..I cant find it.. they where wrong if they put more cards in.
Ps I think you need a bigger psu
legendary
Activity: 1764
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"only 5" :p

yup - only Tongue ...

tomorrow im looking at the new warehouse - and hoping it is suitable ...

if so - thefarm will be moved and will be running again ... the redesign ( for thegrid ) can start - and when thats complete - thefarm will be growing steadily ...

so 'only' will be a reality in the coming months ...

still looking for a mining dev to develop the miner i need ... that is a long term project though - as that will not be simple ...

#crysx

Pretty sure we're all looking for a developer to develop the miner we need... Still missing a dual miner.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 260
--- ChainWorks Industries ---
"only 5" :p

yup - only Tongue ...

tomorrow im looking at the new warehouse - and hoping it is suitable ...

if so - thefarm will be moved and will be running again ... the redesign ( for thegrid ) can start - and when thats complete - thefarm will be growing steadily ...

so 'only' will be a reality in the coming months ...

still looking for a mining dev to develop the miner i need ... that is a long term project though - as that will not be simple ...

#crysx
legendary
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ccminer/cpuminer developer
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 260
--- ChainWorks Industries ---

however - the 6 card issue is ONLY with the 980ti cards ... it seems even the amd 280x oc / 7970 cards ( one and the same ) never had that issue either ... 6 cards and no problem ...

im sure its a bios issue - as ive seen 8 gpus in a single system run by an expensive supermicro motherboard designed ( with a large capable bios ) for such things in hpc servers ...

but i will research your suggestion - as it could also be an issue with the way the 6th 980ti card is allocated in the bios / motherboard ...

tanx ...

#crysx

I like puzzles like this. Have you had 6 cards working in the same rig as the one currently failing with 6x 980ti?
A rig that previously worked would have the correct BIOS settings already.

I'll jump ahead assuming you have already proven your HW and SW and know where I'm leading, It may be the number
and model of card that is the problem. 980ti's have 6 GB mem so that is 36 GB to support. Just speculating, I don't know if adding RAM or swap would help.

if you're not yet fully invested in the 980ti you may want to wait a week for the 1080



I believe this is the 980Ti problem ( V 6th card ) . ( but that's for the miner. And if OS do not see 6th card - jumped riser might help.

Any time I cross a power of 2 boundary I get scared. 5 cards keeps it to 32 GiB.

you know ... its funny that i cant remember whether i DID test it on a different motherboard or not ... which would usually indicate that i didnt ...

so im going to pull one of the other motherboards from the previously working 6card 750ti systems - and replace the current motherboard for a test with the 980ti systems ...

i have it still for another few weeks before i have to give it back - so better now than never i guess ...

if anyone has successfully run 6 x 980ti ( whichever brand ) cards in one machine - i would appreciate you contacting me ...

#crysx

I saw Asrock released a new BIOS v2.30. Did you try flashing it already? Also disabling unnecessary things in bios like LPT, COM, audio and set PCIex to gen1 might help...

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/H81%20Pro%20BTC/?cat=Download&os=BIOS

will check - tanx for the link ...

all other components not used are switched off - as with ALL the mining systems and motherboards ...

i honestly believe it is a bios issue ... all the cards work - and all function well ... just not all at once - only 5 at a time Smiley ...

ill have a look at that today ...

tanx again ...

#crysx
hero member
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however - the 6 card issue is ONLY with the 980ti cards ... it seems even the amd 280x oc / 7970 cards ( one and the same ) never had that issue either ... 6 cards and no problem ...

im sure its a bios issue - as ive seen 8 gpus in a single system run by an expensive supermicro motherboard designed ( with a large capable bios ) for such things in hpc servers ...

but i will research your suggestion - as it could also be an issue with the way the 6th 980ti card is allocated in the bios / motherboard ...

tanx ...

#crysx

I like puzzles like this. Have you had 6 cards working in the same rig as the one currently failing with 6x 980ti?
A rig that previously worked would have the correct BIOS settings already.

I'll jump ahead assuming you have already proven your HW and SW and know where I'm leading, It may be the number
and model of card that is the problem. 980ti's have 6 GB mem so that is 36 GB to support. Just speculating, I don't know if adding RAM or swap would help.

if you're not yet fully invested in the 980ti you may want to wait a week for the 1080



I believe this is the 980Ti problem ( V 6th card ) . ( but that's for the miner. And if OS do not see 6th card - jumped riser might help.

Any time I cross a power of 2 boundary I get scared. 5 cards keeps it to 32 GiB.

you know ... its funny that i cant remember whether i DID test it on a different motherboard or not ... which would usually indicate that i didnt ...

so im going to pull one of the other motherboards from the previously working 6card 750ti systems - and replace the current motherboard for a test with the 980ti systems ...

i have it still for another few weeks before i have to give it back - so better now than never i guess ...

if anyone has successfully run 6 x 980ti ( whichever brand ) cards in one machine - i would appreciate you contacting me ...

#crysx

I saw Asrock released a new BIOS v2.30. Did you try flashing it already? Also disabling unnecessary things in bios like LPT, COM, audio and set PCIex to gen1 might help...

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/H81%20Pro%20BTC/?cat=Download&os=BIOS
legendary
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GTX 1070 Powerful!!! :



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legendary
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ICO? Not even once.

I think that's two bad advices in one sentence but to each of his own I guess. (Though the GV-N75TOC-2GI cards are faulty by design and will die in a few months).

Hello bathrobehero, long time!.

Why do you say that? what happened to you with those cards?, i have like 30 of those for about a year and a half and it was the most stable card i have ever used!, followed by the evga 750Ti ACX FTW which are pretty good too, the only bad thing about the gigabyte GV-750TOC-2GI i had found is that the fans are shit, and so far i couldn't opened it to oil them, like in the sapphire cards and the gigabyte 970 which is tricky but doable.

guys/girls:

I was wondering why so much fuss about trying to use 6 cards?, it is a freaking pain in the @ss do that, usually up to 5 cards is fine but 6 cards is tricky as hell and you overload your power supply.

contrary to what other ppl say, power supplies are not meant to be used at 90% load, i never load my PSUs over 60 or 70% capacity as a result, i have never ever blown any PSU and i have about 40 between 850 and 1100W psus.

but if you insist to 6 cards, the only motherboard i have never had any issue with 6, is the good old H81Pro-btc , but you gonna need  a lot of ram too, so again, what is the gain in putting so many cards in one system?.

I found that the most efficient way is to use AM1M-S2H motherboard with 5350 APU, 3 cards and a quite cheap 750-850W PSU 80plus, you don't waste money on expensive PSUs, motherboards or processors,  you divide the amount of memory between 2 rigs, and lower the power consumption, as this mobo uses almost nothing of power, is the most efficient setup i had found by FAR.

dunno what you guys think, plz comment.

Indkt.

Hey induktor, long time indeed!

Those Gigabyte cards have some sort of low quality voltage delivery component which tends to die (card won't work, no fan, nothing) but within warranty they change that part to a better one so they'll last the next time - or so I heard.
Maybe it's not the same for all of these models, maybe newer batches doesn't have this issue but there's a lot of complaints about that model and I had 5 or maybe 6 out of 6 of these die in a matter of months but after repair they work perfectly.

Also, while unpowered risers might work, powered USB risers are much more reliable so I wouldn't recommend using unpowered risers (especially ribbon risers), let alone recommending them to people who are new to mining.

Same goes for 6-pin aux on cards; you can do without but then you have to make sure you don't use too many cards on one molex rail otherwise you might burn the PSU or the molex cables if you draw too much. So in order to avoid having to put more than 2 cards on one molex cable, you'll very likely need to use sata to molex cables which are terrible and not recommended.

With 6-pin cards all you have to keep in mind to have a single-rail PSU and enough 6-pin connectors.

This happened to me on a 750 Ti with no 6-pin.
But if I put 3 cards per molex cable, those molex cables would get very hot so likely they would have burned anyway eventually.
But for cards with 6-pin the sata to molex cables are cold because the cards pull most of the juice from the 6-pin cables which are built to be able to handle it.

I'd also agree that using a PSU 0-24h above 80-90% is probably a bad idea. I mean it's better be safe than sorry.
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I think that's two bad advices in one sentence but to each of his own I guess. (Though the GV-N75TOC-2GI cards are faulty by design and will die in a few months).

Hello bathrobehero, long time!.

Why do you say that? what happened to you with those cards?, i have like 30 of those for about a year and a half and it was the most stable card i have ever used!, followed by the evga 750Ti ACX FTW which are pretty good too, the only bad thing about the gigabyte GV-750TOC-2GI i had found is that the fans are shit, and so far i couldn't opened it to oil them, like in the sapphire cards and the gigabyte 970 which is tricky but doable.

guys/girls:

I was wondering why so much fuss about trying to use 6 cards?, it is a freaking pain in the @ss do that, usually up to 5 cards is fine but 6 cards is tricky as hell and you overload your power supply.

contrary to what other ppl say, power supplies are not meant to be used at 90% load, i never load my PSUs over 60 or 70% capacity as a result, i have never ever blown any PSU and i have about 40 between 850 and 1100W psus.

but if you insist to 6 cards, the only motherboard i have never had any issue with 6, is the good old H81Pro-btc , but you gonna need  a lot of ram too, so again, what is the gain in putting so many cards in one system?.

I found that the most efficient way is to use AM1M-S2H motherboard with 5350 APU, 3 cards and a quite cheap 750-850W PSU 80plus, you don't waste money on expensive PSUs, motherboards or processors,  you divide the amount of memory between 2 rigs, and lower the power consumption, as this mobo uses almost nothing of power, is the most efficient setup i had found by FAR.

dunno what you guys think, plz comment.

Indkt.
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