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legendary
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I would take it out but 7mh/s quark is alot of hash.
I did take it out and had the same problem.
I'm done messing with it, 200hrs, because  my ANTEC psu is bad not allowing enough power to everything.
One rail must be bad so I'm leaving it at 2 980ti 1 970 1 750ti. Again if I take out the 750ti and put the 970gtx crash drivers and if it hashs for 2 minutes the psu shuts off. 1300 watts continuous meaning it should take a load of 1300 watts forever.. max I can get is 850 watts on that ANTEC psu 1 rma already on it. And no  U/L listing anyone know what that is? I do..meaning no matter what is made in China Mexico ect can be sold good, bad, and falling apart in your hand.  U/L listed would stop that. Undewighters laboratories.
I was warned about ANTEC after I bought it. I did do research on it and they listed the best. right. Next time I'll ask in here.
ps the 2nd 970 clocks show 1519 wtf Should be maybe 1312
And this rig was supposed to have dual everything mb  psu and 12 980ti but it can't be done. So the next cards I'll buy is 750ti.............

Huh... ANTEC...... right, i had tons of issues with antec, and don't even get me started taking about thermaltake   Roll Eyes

Sure this forum IS the place to ask for a good PSU, probably no other place in the world has more experience pushing computer PSUs to their limits as alt-coin miners in this forum hehehe  Grin

I think you shouldn't load any ATX psu above 70% capacity, almost all of them will die if you do that.

If you have two PSUs that are dual conversion models (converts everything to 12V and then uses VRM to regulate 5 and 3.3) you can use them with ADD2PSU adapter and power them at the same time, I had entire farm working like that (using 2x850W Sentry 80 plus psus (superflower design)) and still have all the power supplies intact, but i never load them above 50% load.

Also how do you measure power?, because software lies a lot!, do you have an wall-AC power meter like the kill-a-watt? only trust measuring at the wall, not software.

sorry you probably already test that but i have been following your thread about this issue and don't remember if you did it.

did you try only the two GTX 970's ? (removing the 980ti's and the 750ti ?), are they stable just those two?.

listen at the problematic 970, does it sing (whine) while mining?, sometimes a faulty VRM or loose coil can cause weird effects.

Recently I purchased 2 extra gigabyte 970 like yours and one, when used at top TDP, whines a little , it is bare noticeable, but it whines, so i moved it to the position where it would be the coolest card in the bunch, because i know it would be the first to die if I push it, and of course, lower the TDP, not only you get more efficiency Mh/watt but it also makes it more stable and will last a LOT more.

Heat is the enemy!  Grin

measuring at the wall in fact 1 meter from me is my rig with a watt meter. Grin
I have my 750ti rig at 70% or so on psu in another room and getting ready to move this to another room.. getting hot here.
Sentry 80 plus ok I'll look into it...
And one that I can set its fan speed I think corsair not sure...
Wish I could get my BTC back on the ANTEC but no a rma then they well send another piece of s...
But still these cards should be locked in the p0 state.
ooooo my psu is 650 watt for 6 card 750ti rig. Working great.
legendary
Activity: 2002
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ICO? Not even once.
Fun stuff though, wish I was troubleshooting a 6x 980 TI rig here myself  Grin

Same Tongue
I'll try 6 x 970s in one rig in a few hours.


@tbearhere
What's your exact PSU model? If it's not a single rail PSU then that's probably your problem.

Why do you keep the intel internal graphics. Disable it i  the bios.

Another trick is to disable the 2 cards in the list including the card with the yellow triangle, and then enable the two cards in the opposite order.

I use the intel HD garphics in all my rigs, that way each card has all VRAM available instead of the main GPU having some used because of the OS (it was important for scrypt-jane).

just a thought, 80% of my cards are 750Ti and GTX970, I never ever mixed them, i already have way too many problems with risers, lack of lanes, power limitations, to have to deal with different compute architectures in the same machine hehe.
(EDIT) I just saw the image you posted again, you could disable onboard VGA too, and use the vga on the 16x slot as primary adapter,less driver issues as well.

You can mix them, I do, but then you might want to control the cards with different ccminer instances (ccminer -d 1,2 and -d 0,3,4,5)


legendary
Activity: 3164
Merit: 1003
Adding to my previous post...
Had a quick look at the AsRock BTC Pro manual, and couple of things sparked my interest:
- Onboard NIC uses x1 PCIe lane!
- 1 Slot can do PCIe v2.0 x16
- 5 Slots are PCIe v2.0 x1

I don't know what other Onboard devices might be using up lanes as those are not clearly stated (though I posted about the usual suspects already). It would be wise to disable every single motherboard/chipset feature that is not critical to the rig operation.

@crysx & others, what setting do you have on the BIOS for "PCIE2 Link Speed"? Maybe worth fiddling with the possible options there.

Edit: One last note on this mental exercise: I'm with joblo in suspecting that it could just be that the problem is when you cross the 32GB boundary in memory attached to PCIe devices. If this is the case, you'll find that the same rig will max out at 4 * GTX1080's  Cheesy
PCIE2 Link Speed seemed to cause my other 970 to stop hahing its locked in the p4 state.
Using hd graphics to see the bios to set it back to normal.
It was worth a try though.
I wish I could lock these cards permanently in the p0 state like their supposed to.

Done their back to p2 state. Smiley
legendary
Activity: 3164
Merit: 1003
Is the errorcode 43? Disable internal grphics
Yes obut on the graphics card very rare on internal graphics  sp
And when the cards reboot some are in the p8 state p2 state these cards are crap to me these gaming cards should be locked in the p0 state always no matter what like the 750ti... Anyone have a non gaming cards to see what state it is in COLD very important that it is room temperature to measure because it goes through the p0 then p2 p6 p8 as its cooling.
That is another problem I have. Just set the time to 10 sec but hot may take 1 minute. I hate these cards.
I took the extra 970 out trying to get back where I was. Smiley
hero member
Activity: 710
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I would take it out but 7mh/s quark is alot of hash.
I did take it out and had the same problem.
I'm done messing with it, 200hrs, because  my ANTEC psu is bad not allowing enough power to everything.
One rail must be bad so I'm leaving it at 2 980ti 1 970 1 750ti. Again if I take out the 750ti and put the 970gtx crash drivers and if it hashs for 2 minutes the psu shuts off. 1300 watts continuous meaning it should take a load of 1300 watts forever.. max I can get is 850 watts on that ANTEC psu 1 rma already on it. And no  U/L listing anyone know what that is? I do..meaning no matter what is made in China Mexico ect can be sold good, bad, and falling apart in your hand.  U/L listed would stop that. Undewighters laboratories.
I was warned about ANTEC after I bought it. I did do research on it and they listed the best. right. Next time I'll ask in here.
ps the 2nd 970 clocks show 1519 wtf Should be maybe 1312
And this rig was supposed to have dual everything mb  psu and 12 980ti but it can't be done. So the next cards I'll buy is 750ti.............

Huh... ANTEC...... right, i had tons of issues with antec, and don't even get me started taking about thermaltake   Roll Eyes

Sure this forum IS the place to ask for a good PSU, probably no other place in the world has more experience pushing computer PSUs to their limits as alt-coin miners in this forum hehehe  Grin

I think you shouldn't load any ATX psu above 70% capacity, almost all of them will die if you do that.

If you have two PSUs that are dual conversion models (converts everything to 12V and then uses VRM to regulate 5 and 3.3) you can use them with ADD2PSU adapter and power them at the same time, I had entire farm working like that (using 2x850W Sentey 80 plus psus (superflower design)) and still have all the power supplies intact, but i never load them above 50% load.

Also how do you measure power?, because software lies a lot!, do you have an wall-AC power meter like the kill-a-watt? only trust measuring at the wall, not software.

sorry you probably already test that but i have been following your thread about this issue and don't remember if you did it.

did you try only the two GTX 970's ? (removing the 980ti's and the 750ti ?), are they stable just those two?.

listen at the problematic 970, does it sing (whine) while mining?, sometimes a faulty VRM or loose coil can cause weird effects.

Recently I purchased 2 extra gigabyte 970 like yours and one, when used at top TDP, whines a little , it is bare noticeable, but it whines, so i moved it to the position where it would be the coolest card in the bunch, because i know it would be the first to die if I push it, and of course, lower the TDP, not only you get more efficiency Mh/watt but it also makes it more stable and will last a LOT more.

Heat is the enemy!  Grin
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1072
btw nist5 seems bugged or something in your version, sp, in the forked version from yiimp guy(forgot the name) it work fine, getting crash on your

about lanes, i don't buy it, simply because even i7 are capped at 16 lanes, so it can not be that, unless you are telling me that we need 6 core or more just to have six card....

sp_
legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
Is the errorcode 43? Disable internal grphics
legendary
Activity: 3164
Merit: 1003
On reboot again it may work.... now to try mining.


Hi tbearhere
question
why do you keep the 750ti there, is insignificant compared to the other ones, and it uses a different compute architecture.
wouldn't be better get rid of it, at least until you solve the issue with the second GTX970 ? which is three times more powerful?

just a thought, 80% of my cards are 750Ti and Gafter TX970, I never ever mixed them, i already have way too many problems with risers, lack of lanes, power limitations, to have to deal with different compute architectures in the same machine hehe.
(EDIT) I just saw the image you posted again, you could disable onboard VGA too, and use the vga on the 16x slot as primary adapter,less driver issues as well.
I would take it out but 7mh/s quark is alot of hash.
I did take it out and had the same problem.
I'm done messing with it, 200hrs, because  my ANTEC psu is bad not allowing enough power to everything.
One rail must be bad so I'm leaving it at 2 980ti 1 970 1 750ti. Again if I take out the 750ti and put the 970gtx crash drivers and if it hashs for 2 minutes the psu shuts off. 1300 watts continuous meaning it should take a load of 1300 watts forever.. max I can get is 850 watts on that ANTEC psu 1 rma already on it. And no  U/L listing anyone know what that is? I do..meaning no matter what is made in China Mexico ect can be sold good, bad, and falling apart in your hand.  U/L listed would stop that. Undewighters laboratories.
I was warned about ANTEC after I bought it. I did do research on it and they listed the best. right. Next time I'll ask in here.
ps the 2nd 970 clocks show 1519 wtf Should be maybe 1312

Why do you keep the intel internal graphics. Disable it i  the bios.

Another trick is to disable the 2 cards in the list including the card with the yellow triangle, and then enable the two cards in the opposite order.
And this rig was supposed to have dual everything mb  psu and 12x 980ti but it can't be done. So the next cards I'll buy is 750ti.............
I just didn't think that internal graphics not in use would do anything.
Thx I now wonder how much power it is drawing.

>Another trick is to disable the 2 cards in the list including the card with the yellow triangle, and then enable the two cards in the opposite order.<
What would that do? The card did install but sometimes on reboot it has issues.
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
On reboot again it may work.... now to try mining.


Hi tbearhere
question
why do you keep the 750ti there, is insignificant compared to the other ones, and it uses a different compute architecture.
wouldn't be better get rid of it, at least until you solve the issue with the second GTX970 ? which is three times more powerful?

just a thought, 80% of my cards are 750Ti and Gafter TX970, I never ever mixed them, i already have way too many problems with risers, lack of lanes, power limitations, to have to deal with different compute architectures in the same machine hehe.
(EDIT) I just saw the image you posted again, you could disable onboard VGA too, and use the vga on the 16x slot as primary adapter,less driver issues as well.
I would take it out but 7mh/s quark is alot of hash.
I did take it out and had the same problem.
I'm done messing with it, 200hrs, because  my ANTEC psu is bad not allowing enough power to everything.
One rail must be bad so I'm leaving it at 2 980ti 1 970 1 750ti. Again if I take out the 750ti and put the 970gtx crash drivers and if it hashs for 2 minutes the psu shuts off. 1300 watts continuous meaning it should take a load of 1300 watts forever.. max I can get is 850 watts on that ANTEC psu 1 rma already on it. And no  U/L listing anyone know what that is? I do..meaning no matter what is made in China Mexico ect can be sold good, bad, and falling apart in your hand.  U/L listed would stop that. Undewighters laboratories.
I was warned about ANTEC after I bought it. I did do research on it and they listed the best. right. Next time I'll ask in here.
ps the 2nd 970 clocks show 1519 wtf Should be maybe 1312

Why do you keep the intel internal graphics. Disable it i  the bios.

Another trick is to disable the 2 cards in the list including the card with the yellow triangle, and then enable the two cards in the opposite order.
legendary
Activity: 3164
Merit: 1003
On reboot again it may work.... now to try mining.


Hi tbearhere
question
why do you keep the 750ti there, is insignificant compared to the other ones, and it uses a different compute architecture.
wouldn't be better get rid of it, at least until you solve the issue with the second GTX970 ? which is three times more powerful?

just a thought, 80% of my cards are 750Ti and Gafter TX970, I never ever mixed them, i already have way too many problems with risers, lack of lanes, power limitations, to have to deal with different compute architectures in the same machine hehe.
(EDIT) I just saw the image you posted again, you could disable onboard VGA too, and use the vga on the 16x slot as primary adapter,less driver issues as well.
I would take it out but 7mh/s quark is alot of hash.
I did take it out and had the same problem.
I'm done messing with it, 200hrs, because  my ANTEC psu is bad not allowing enough power to everything.
One rail must be bad so I'm leaving it at 2 980ti 1 970 1 750ti. Again if I take out the 750ti and put the 970gtx crash drivers and if it hashs for 2 minutes the psu shuts off. 1300 watts continuous meaning it should take a load of 1300 watts forever.. max I can get is 850 watts on that ANTEC psu 1 rma already on it. And no  U/L listing anyone know what that is? I do..meaning no matter what is made in China Mexico ect can be sold good, bad, and falling apart in your hand.  U/L listed would stop that. Underighters laboratories.
I was warned about ANTEC after I bought it. I did do research on it and they listed the best. right. Next time I'll ask in here.
ps the 2nd 970 clocks show 1519 wtf Should be maybe 1312
And this rig was supposed to have dual everything mb  psu and 12 980ti but it can't be done. So the next cards I'll buy is 750ti.............
hero member
Activity: 710
Merit: 502
On reboot again it may work.... now to try mining.


Hi tbearhere
question
why do you keep the 750ti there, is insignificant compared to the other ones, and it uses a different compute architecture.
wouldn't be better get rid of it, at least until you solve the issue with the second GTX970 ? which is three times more powerful?

just a thought, 80% of my cards are 750Ti and GTX970, I never ever mixed them, i already have way too many problems with risers, lack of lanes, power limitations, to have to deal with different compute architectures in the same machine hehe.
(EDIT) I just saw the image you posted again, you could disable onboard VGA too, and use the vga on the 16x slot as primary adapter,less driver issues as well.
hero member
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Adding to my previous post...
.......
Edit: One last note on this mental exercise: I'm with joblo in suspecting that it could just be that the problem is when you cross the 32GB boundary in memory attached to PCIe devices. If this is the case, you'll find that the same rig will max out at 4 * GTX1080's  Cheesy
not sure if it is exactly 32GB but it could be something related, is the only plausible explanation so far.

I did try to put 6 x GTX970 yesterday when i was servicing the 750Ti rig, i use a H81ProBTC, added another 8GB of ram and try, no success, only 5 cards works under linux (I can't test windows, sorry) but same rig works with 6 x 750Ti  (obviously I bridged another PSU (my rigs all has custom made add2psu boards just in case i need more juice, just toss another psu Cheesy)) to hold the load of the 6 beasts hehe)

so it could be the total GPU ram that somehow exceeds the ability of the machine bios.

someone commented about the usage of the pci lanes (i think it was bensam)  that the lanes are not really released if you disable things in the bios, and sometimes it is correct, depends on the device and the motherboard.

however you did release lanes if you use 1x riser in the 16x slot, at least in mothers like the Gigabyte 970A-D3 , if I use a 16x riser in the second 16x (8x really) slot, i cannot use the 1x riser on the left to connect a GPU, it won't work, but if i use a 1x riser there, the other 1x works, so it obviously shares the same lanes, if not used, it can be reallocated if it was designed to do that.

but again it is not our issue here, because even using 16x riser, i can get 6 x 750Ti to work, so it is not a lane issue, and it is not a processor issue because i tested it too with the G3250, same result.
legendary
Activity: 3164
Merit: 1003
Adding to my previous post...
Had a quick look at the AsRock BTC Pro manual, and couple of things sparked my interest:
- Onboard NIC uses x1 PCIe lane!
- 1 Slot can do PCIe v2.0 x16
- 5 Slots are PCIe v2.0 x1

I don't know what other Onboard devices might be using up lanes as those are not clearly stated (though I posted about the usual suspects already). It would be wise to disable every single motherboard/chipset feature that is not critical to the rig operation.

@crysx & others, what setting do you have on the BIOS for "PCIE2 Link Speed"? Maybe worth fiddling with the possible options there.

Edit: One last note on this mental exercise: I'm with joblo in suspecting that it could just be that the problem is when you cross the 32GB boundary in memory attached to PCIe devices. If this is the case, you'll find that the same rig will max out at 4 * GTX1080's  Cheesy
Thx myagui
I'm going to look now. One thing, the asrock will reset to defaults on power interrupt..so I have to go and check things out. I do many power interrupts.
Ok PCIE2 Link  set in Bios.... doing some test runs. Wink And I added the other 970gtx.
After installed drivers clean I get this every time like crysx
On reboot again it may work.... now to try mining.
legendary
Activity: 3164
Merit: 1003
Adding to my previous post...
Had a quick look at the AsRock BTC Pro manual, and couple of things sparked my interest:
- Onboard NIC uses x1 PCIe lane!
- 1 Slot can do PCIe v2.0 x16
- 5 Slots are PCIe v2.0 x1

I don't know what other Onboard devices might be using up lanes as those are not clearly stated (though I posted about the usual suspects already). It would be wise to disable every single motherboard/chipset feature that is not critical to the rig operation.

@crysx & others, what setting do you have on the BIOS for "PCIE2 Link Speed"? Maybe worth fiddling with the possible options there.

Edit: One last note on this mental exercise: I'm with joblo in suspecting that it could just be that the problem is when you cross the 32GB boundary in memory attached to PCIe devices. If this is the case, you'll find that the same rig will max out at 4 * GTX1080's  Cheesy
Thx myagui
I'm going to look now. One thing, the asrock will reset to defaults on power interrupt..so I have to go and check things out. I do many power interrupts.
Ok PCIE2 Link  set in Bios.... doing some test runs. Wink And I added the other 970gtx.
sr. member
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--- ChainWorks Industries ---
I have a 6 card 750ti setup and 5 cards are in 3.0 @ 2.0x1 and 1 card is 3.0 @ 2.0x4

Cool antonio8, that is right about what I would expect from a working setup.
My napkin math tells me that the one card in the faster slot (which you have running at x4), might be doing x8 on the systems that are maxing out at 5 GPUs. If that faster slot runs at x8, lanes will be pretty tight, depending on how the rest of the onboard devices are wired up.

If you have a chance, what is on your BIOS for that PCIe setting I posted before? If it is set to auto, please post what other options are available for that setting (but don't change it ofc, as you have a working system)

@crysx, the damn fish won't fry itself buddy, get moving  Cool

hehehe ...

full steam ahead and all systems go ...

i just need to get organized now ...

this is NOT going to be easy - as its just me doing the physical work now ...

fish-a-fryin soon Wink ...

#crysx
legendary
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I have a 6 card 750ti setup and 5 cards are in 3.0 @ 2.0x1 and 1 card is 3.0 @ 2.0x4

Cool antonio8, that is right about what I would expect from a working setup.
My napkin math tells me that the one card in the faster slot (which you have running at x4), might be doing x8 on the systems that are maxing out at 5 GPUs. If that faster slot runs at x8, lanes will be pretty tight, depending on how the rest of the onboard devices are wired up.

If you have a chance, what is on your BIOS for that PCIe setting I posted before? If it is set to auto, please post what other options are available for that setting (but don't change it ofc, as you have a working system)

@crysx, the damn fish won't fry itself buddy, get moving  Cool
legendary
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http://ark.intel.com/products/80798/Intel-Celeron-Processor-G1850-2M-Cache-2_90-GHz?q=G1850

My cpu on 2 rigs............... this computer and my little vista are 4 core.
sr. member
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--- ChainWorks Industries ---
Adding to my previous post...
Had a quick look at the AsRock BTC Pro manual, and couple of things sparked my interest:
- Onboard NIC uses x1 PCIe lane!
- 1 Slot can do PCIe v2.0 x16
- 5 Slots are PCIe v2.0 x1

I don't know what other Onboard devices might be using up lanes as those are not clearly stated (though I posted about the usual suspects already). It would be wise to disable every single motherboard/chipset feature that is not critical to the rig operation.

@crysx & others, what setting do you have on the BIOS for "PCIE2 Link Speed"? Maybe worth fiddling with the possible options there.

Edit: One last note on this mental exercise: I'm with joblo in suspecting that it could just be that the problem is when you cross the 32GB boundary in memory attached to PCIe devices. If this is the case, you'll find that the same rig will max out at 4 * GTX1080's  Cheesy
Thx myagui
I'm going to look now. One thing, the asrock will reset to defaults on power interrupt..so I have to go and check things out. I do many power interrupts.

not all of them do tbear ...

but then again - its hard to tell with this one - as ive just updated the bios yesterday - so its prone to do anything ...

#crysx
legendary
Activity: 3164
Merit: 1003
Adding to my previous post...
Had a quick look at the AsRock BTC Pro manual, and couple of things sparked my interest:
- Onboard NIC uses x1 PCIe lane!
- 1 Slot can do PCIe v2.0 x16
- 5 Slots are PCIe v2.0 x1

I don't know what other Onboard devices might be using up lanes as those are not clearly stated (though I posted about the usual suspects already). It would be wise to disable every single motherboard/chipset feature that is not critical to the rig operation.

@crysx & others, what setting do you have on the BIOS for "PCIE2 Link Speed"? Maybe worth fiddling with the possible options there.

Edit: One last note on this mental exercise: I'm with joblo in suspecting that it could just be that the problem is when you cross the 32GB boundary in memory attached to PCIe devices. If this is the case, you'll find that the same rig will max out at 4 * GTX1080's  Cheesy
Thx myagui
I'm going to look now. One thing, the asrock will reset to defaults on power interrupt..so I have to go and check things out. I do many power interrupts.
legendary
Activity: 1400
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Adding to my previous post...
Had a quick look at the AsRock BTC Pro manual, and couple of things sparked my interest:
- Onboard NIC uses x1 PCIe lane!
- 1 Slot can do PCIe v2.0 x16
- 5 Slots are PCIe v2.0 x1

I don't know what other Onboard devices might be using up lanes as those are not clearly stated (though I posted about the usual suspects already). It would be wise to disable every single motherboard/chipset feature that is not critical to the rig operation.

@crysx & others, what setting do you have on the BIOS for "PCIE2 Link Speed"? Maybe worth fiddling with the possible options there.

Edit: One last note on this mental exercise: I'm with joblo in suspecting that it could just be that the problem is when you cross the 32GB boundary in memory attached to PCIe devices. If this is the case, you'll find that the same rig will max out at 4 * GTX1080's  Cheesy

I have a 6 card 750ti setup and 5 cards are in 3.0 @ 2.0x1 and 1 card is 3.0 @ 2.0x4
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