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legendary
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polaris vs pascal, vega will be on october, announced probably dunno about release



I'll believe this when I see it. Considering AMD is probably a few months out from launch, bit early to see leak numbers. We'll probably see a paper launch at computex though.

That seems a bit fast too, considering Polaris is supposed to be AMDs midrange lineup, it's hard to imagine it matching pace with a 1080/1070.

the first one is a crossfire, CF written there, so not on par with pascal
legendary
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polaris vs pascal, vega will be on october, announced probably dunno about release



I'll believe this when I see it. Considering AMD is probably a few months out from launch, bit early to see leak numbers. We'll probably see a paper launch at computex though.

That seems a bit fast too, considering Polaris is supposed to be AMDs midrange lineup, it's hard to imagine it matching pace with a 1080/1070.
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however - the 6 card issue is ONLY with the 980ti cards ... it seems even the amd 280x oc / 7970 cards ( one and the same ) never had that issue either ... 6 cards and no problem ...

im sure its a bios issue - as ive seen 8 gpus in a single system run by an expensive supermicro motherboard designed ( with a large capable bios ) for such things in hpc servers ...

but i will research your suggestion - as it could also be an issue with the way the 6th 980ti card is allocated in the bios / motherboard ...

tanx ...

#crysx

I like puzzles like this. Have you had 6 cards working in the same rig as the one currently failing with 6x 980ti?
A rig that previously worked would have the correct BIOS settings already.

I'll jump ahead assuming you have already proven your HW and SW and know where I'm leading, It may be the number
and model of card that is the problem. 980ti's have 6 GB mem so that is 36 GB to support. Just speculating, I don't know if adding RAM or swap would help.

if you're not yet fully invested in the 980ti you may want to wait a week for the 1080



I believe this is the 980Ti problem ( V 6th card ) . ( but that's for the miner. And if OS do not see 6th card - jumped riser might help.

Any time I cross a power of 2 boundary I get scared. 5 cards keeps it to 32 GiB.

you know ... its funny that i cant remember whether i DID test it on a different motherboard or not ... which would usually indicate that i didnt ...

so im going to pull one of the other motherboards from the previously working 6card 750ti systems - and replace the current motherboard for a test with the 980ti systems ...

i have it still for another few weeks before i have to give it back - so better now than never i guess ...

if anyone has successfully run 6 x 980ti ( whichever brand ) cards in one machine - i would appreciate you contacting me ...

#crysx
legendary
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however - the 6 card issue is ONLY with the 980ti cards ... it seems even the amd 280x oc / 7970 cards ( one and the same ) never had that issue either ... 6 cards and no problem ...

im sure its a bios issue - as ive seen 8 gpus in a single system run by an expensive supermicro motherboard designed ( with a large capable bios ) for such things in hpc servers ...

but i will research your suggestion - as it could also be an issue with the way the 6th 980ti card is allocated in the bios / motherboard ...

tanx ...

#crysx

I like puzzles like this. Have you had 6 cards working in the same rig as the one currently failing with 6x 980ti?
A rig that previously worked would have the correct BIOS settings already.

I'll jump ahead assuming you have already proven your HW and SW and know where I'm leading, It may be the number
and model of card that is the problem. 980ti's have 6 GB mem so that is 36 GB to support. Just speculating, I don't know if adding RAM or swap would help.

if you're not yet fully invested in the 980ti you may want to wait a week for the 1080



I believe this is the 980Ti problem ( V 6th card ) . ( but that's for the miner. And if OS do not see 6th card - jumped riser might help.

Any time I cross a power of 2 boundary I get scared. 5 cards keeps it to 32 GiB.
legendary
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polaris vs pascal, vega will be on october, announced probably dunno about release

legendary
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however - the 6 card issue is ONLY with the 980ti cards ... it seems even the amd 280x oc / 7970 cards ( one and the same ) never had that issue either ... 6 cards and no problem ...

im sure its a bios issue - as ive seen 8 gpus in a single system run by an expensive supermicro motherboard designed ( with a large capable bios ) for such things in hpc servers ...

but i will research your suggestion - as it could also be an issue with the way the 6th 980ti card is allocated in the bios / motherboard ...

tanx ...

#crysx

I like puzzles like this. Have you had 6 cards working in the same rig as the one currently failing with 6x 980ti?
A rig that previously worked would have the correct BIOS settings already.

I'll jump ahead assuming you have already proven your HW and SW and know where I'm leading, It may be the number
and model of card that is the problem. 980ti's have 6 GB mem so that is 36 GB to support. Just speculating, I don't know if adding RAM or swap would help.

if you're not yet fully invested in the 980ti you may want to wait a week for the 1080



I believe this is the 980Ti problem ( V 6th card ) . ( but that's for the miner. And if OS do not see 6th card - jumped riser might help.
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Im on windows 10 x64  Sad , It will never be possible mining ethereum with windows 10 Huh  Angry .

Should be fixed after July win 10 update

Source of that info?
legendary
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And @ Crysx:  did you try with simple cheap unpowered( or powered) riser with pin A1-B17 shorted - on 6th card? That solved my 6th card problem few times.

ive tried everything you can imagine ... though that shorting is not one of them ...

im not a newbie to this ( dont be fooled by my profile - i still havent got my last profile back ) and as such - take a LOT into account with mining ...

i do however - appreciate your advice and thoughts ...

ill have thefarm up and running soon - looking at a new place on thursday - so im crossing my fingers this warehouse is a good one ...

i NEVER use cheap unpowered ribbon - especially on highpowered cards ... ive burned too many of them to be easily using ANY ribbon cable - no matter who suggests them here ... ive been in too many discussions and eventual arguments over such things - its become too old - too quick ...

top level components in thefarm - nothing less ...

however - the 6 card issue is ONLY with the 980ti cards ... it seems even the amd 280x oc / 7970 cards ( one and the same ) never had that issue either ... 6 cards and no problem ...

im sure its a bios issue - as ive seen 8 gpus in a single system run by an expensive supermicro motherboard designed ( with a large capable bios ) for such things in hpc servers ...

but i will research your suggestion - as it could also be an issue with the way the 6th 980ti card is allocated in the bios / motherboard ...

tanx ...

#crysx

not with h81 pro btc, it has two molex each molex deliver 132 x 2 = 264w total

now you need at max 75w for each slot, to be provided for each gpu, so at best 450w

a motherboard alone can provide 200w(25w for each x1 slot, you have six of them plus 75w for the x16 slot)

math is telling me that you have a maximum of 200w+264w=464w, more than enough for powering any six gpu combination out there

and actually no card draw 75w the maximum that is allowed in each pci-e slot

read https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5373313

You do know the 4-pin Molex connector is only rated for 75W, right?

no it's 132 11a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molex_connector#Disk_drive_connector_.28Molex_8981_Series_Power_Connector.29

also the 24 pin alone that is plugged to the MB can handle 373w...
legendary
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This is like being a restaurant and only having one source of produce/spices/meat. Could I start my own cattle farm, raise my own chickens, plants my own vegetables, and mill my own spices? Sure... Is it a reasonable assumption that a restaurant should do this and as such that one supplier should charge whatever they want and sell to whomever they want? No.
This is more like being gas station and getting franchise from one of very few big oil producers. Independence? What independence? You earn only as much as you allowed to earn.
Well, nothing prevents you from moving to drilling and refinery business - leaving said gas station as a hobby Smiley

Better analogy... And yes, I guess I can drill my own oil and refine it too... Who even needs to drill when I can just grow it - biodiesel!

Putting this all aside, gas stations in real life don't generate the majority of their profit from gas... it's actually from selling stuff in their store. Selling the gas makes them almost no money due to their margins, they just try to get you inside. How that fits inside of the analogy? I don't know...

Everyone keeps talking about ETH is the only profitable coin to mine.

96 Mh/s gets just about 1 ETH per day. Not too bad as that still covers total electric per day plus some left over.

I have not mined ETH in months as there are better options out there.

Oh and before you respond Bensam like you did the last time I posted something like this about not telling what it is, you have your secret coins like everyone else.

Unfortunately small coins tank right away if you put any sort of hash on them, so I've been mining Eth. There are still more options if you're a small miner though. Small coins fly under the radar of coinmarketcap and whattomine. Feathercoin was a secret alternative to Eth for a couple days before people completely dumped hash on it.



All of this aside, for the love of god someone make a Nvidia dual miner. 1% of Eth and 1% of Dcr is nothing to sneeze at.

@Genoli http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.en.html

Of course, I mean, learning how to code worth a shit is totally just like buying ridiculous amounts of INSANELY expensive equipment to get oil.

Does this guy even get the basic premise of the free market? The whole damned point is that if someone charges too much, someone else ends up providing it for less, and they undercut each other. Competition. If it takes a lot of resources, or it requires a skill that not everyone has, then the price goes up. It's not like Bensam could go get someone to do this shit in the free and open market for a lot less than what I get - or he sure as hell would have. Freelancer and done it.

I don't think you understand what someones life is like. Everyone has different skillsets, lets look for a moment at you or me completely changing. Spending a couple years learning a different set of skills is not all that different that starting a giant company. I could more easily start a new company then learn to program to the same level of quality as current releases are at, let alone at yours. For me that's a complete waste of time because my expertise are in other areas. I pay people instead to do that work because that's not where my expertise is. I can't pay for what people don't sell or don't even advertise openly that that's what they sell.

Most people don't know the market exists because you don't present your wares and there is no market to actually buy from due to back room trading.

Not just that, but what market there is isn't a free market. You don't advertise prices and even then you sell them to whomever you want. You've even mentioned you only sell to a handful of people (which are big players in the crypto game, which further pushes down all the other miners) keeping it completely exclusive. This pushes other miners out of the market due to the nature of mining.

There is no other game in town for AMD. The current alternative is SP and friends, which is why I switched to Nvidia. Ethereum completely fucked up your stranglehold on AMD mining, but no one could see that coming.


Your argument MIGHT hold water if you had addressed the fact Freelancer.com exists - you can hire any coder you like!

You can hire people to build oil derricks too.

You were the only source of AMD miners for a long time, you still pretty much are. I can once again also get into husbandry and raise livestock in addition to working my restaurant, but that's not my job.  Don't act like you don't have a complete monopoly on the market and you don't share with people you don't like. Lucky for AMD miners Eth came around.


SP man, dual miner... Sad
legendary
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however - the 6 card issue is ONLY with the 980ti cards ... it seems even the amd 280x oc / 7970 cards ( one and the same ) never had that issue either ... 6 cards and no problem ...

im sure its a bios issue - as ive seen 8 gpus in a single system run by an expensive supermicro motherboard designed ( with a large capable bios ) for such things in hpc servers ...

but i will research your suggestion - as it could also be an issue with the way the 6th 980ti card is allocated in the bios / motherboard ...

tanx ...

#crysx

I like puzzles like this. Have you had 6 cards working in the same rig as the one currently failing with 6x 980ti?
A rig that previously worked would have the correct BIOS settings already.

I'll jump ahead assuming you have already proven your HW and SW and know where I'm leading, It may be the number
and model of card that is the problem. 980ti's have 6 GB mem so that is 36 GB to support. Just speculating, I don't know if adding RAM or swap would help.

if you're not yet fully invested in the 980ti you may want to wait a week for the 1080

full member
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windows 10 is okish too for those card with the right drivers?

No, you can't mine etherum with windows 10.

Im on windows 10 x64  Sad , It will never be possible mining ethereum with windows 10 Huh  Angry .

Should be fixed after July win 10 update
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1070
And @ Crysx:  did you try with simple cheap unpowered( or powered) riser with pin A1-B17 shorted - on 6th card? That solved my 6th card problem few times.

ive tried everything you can imagine ... though that shorting is not one of them ...

im not a newbie to this ( dont be fooled by my profile - i still havent got my last profile back ) and as such - take a LOT into account with mining ...

i do however - appreciate your advice and thoughts ...

ill have thefarm up and running soon - looking at a new place on thursday - so im crossing my fingers this warehouse is a good one ...

i NEVER use cheap unpowered ribbon - especially on highpowered cards ... ive burned too many of them to be easily using ANY ribbon cable - no matter who suggests them here ... ive been in too many discussions and eventual arguments over such things - its become too old - too quick ...

top level components in thefarm - nothing less ...

however - the 6 card issue is ONLY with the 980ti cards ... it seems even the amd 280x oc / 7970 cards ( one and the same ) never had that issue either ... 6 cards and no problem ...

im sure its a bios issue - as ive seen 8 gpus in a single system run by an expensive supermicro motherboard designed ( with a large capable bios ) for such things in hpc servers ...

but i will research your suggestion - as it could also be an issue with the way the 6th 980ti card is allocated in the bios / motherboard ...

tanx ...

#crysx

not with h81 pro btc, it has two molex each molex deliver 132 x 2 = 264w total

now you need at max 75w for each slot, to be provided for each gpu, so at best 450w

a motherboard alone can provide 200w(25w for each x1 slot, you have six of them plus 75w for the x16 slot)

math is telling me that you have a maximum of 200w+264w=464w, more than enough for powering any six gpu combination out there

and actually no card draw 75w the maximum that is allowed in each pci-e slot

read https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5373313
legendary
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nice one myagui ...

all the step-by-step instructions are there - for a lazy reader like me? ...

tanx ...

#crysx

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windows 10 is okish too for those card with the right drivers?

No, you can't mine etherum with windows 10.

Im on windows 10 x64  Sad , It will never be possible mining ethereum with windows 10 Huh  Angry .

For Windows 10 and the 970's or 980's, you can just use an appropriate (much older) driver version, such as 347.88, that uses WDDM 1.3.
Works fine for Ethereum mining, though I suspect that Windows 7 is still slightly faster.
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nice one myagui ...

all the step-by-step instructions are there - for a lazy reader like me? ...

tanx ...

#crysx
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And @ Crysx:  did you try with simple cheap unpowered( or powered) riser with pin A1-B17 shorted - on 6th card? That solved my 6th card problem few times.

ive tried everything you can imagine ... though that shorting is not one of them ...

im not a newbie to this ( dont be fooled by my profile - i still havent got my last profile back ) and as such - take a LOT into account with mining ...

i do however - appreciate your advice and thoughts ...

ill have thefarm up and running soon - looking at a new place on thursday - so im crossing my fingers this warehouse is a good one ...

i NEVER use cheap unpowered ribbon - especially on highpowered cards ... ive burned too many of them to be easily using ANY ribbon cable - no matter who suggests them here ... ive been in too many discussions and eventual arguments over such things - its become too old - too quick ...

top level components in thefarm - nothing less ...

however - the 6 card issue is ONLY with the 980ti cards ... it seems even the amd 280x oc / 7970 cards ( one and the same ) never had that issue either ... 6 cards and no problem ...

im sure its a bios issue - as ive seen 8 gpus in a single system run by an expensive supermicro motherboard designed ( with a large capable bios ) for such things in hpc servers ...

but i will research your suggestion - as it could also be an issue with the way the 6th 980ti card is allocated in the bios / motherboard ...

tanx ...

#crysx
legendary
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windows 10 is okish too for those card with the right drivers?

No, you can't mine etherum with windows 10.

Im on windows 10 x64  Sad , It will never be possible mining ethereum with windows 10 Huh  Angry .
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windows 10 is okish too for those card with the right drivers?

No, you can't mine etherum with windows 10.
legendary
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And @ Crysx:  did you try with simple cheap unpowered( or powered) riser with pin A1-B17 shorted - on 6th card? That solved my 6th card problem few times.
legendary
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run 5 cards ...

it seems that the nvidia driver craps itself when 6 cards are placed altogether ... i can assure you that i am no novice to mining - and you will find the same thing on your end ... i have yet to find a 'real' fix for this issue ...

6 x gigabyte 750ti oc lp cards work fine - but the 980ti g1 / extreme cards refuse to and stop functioning at 6 cards ...

i run fedora 23 x64 - with the latest drivers from the repo ( not the manually downloaded and installed nvidia drivers from their site ) and it is the same issue - time and time again ...

when thefarm is in its new home - ill be in a better position to test on different motherboards also - as i honestly believe it is a BIOS allocation issue ... i feel VERY confident that if i placed the cards on a supermicro server board that is built for hpc ( larger BIOS and designed to handle VGA allocation in BIOS ) - it will run fine with these big cards ...

what is the make and model of your motherboard? ...

#crysx

That is very interesting crysx, and is matching a pattern I think that I am seeing here also.  I am still in testing at the moment and hopefully should have a better feel by tomorrow where I stand with these cards.

My mobo is a ASRock H97 Anniversary.  My GPU's are Gigabyte Windforce 750ti's.  

my motherboard on this machine is the asrock h81btcpro - built for mining ...

the 750ti have no issue with 6 cards - the 980ti run ony 5 - and when the 6th card is inserted - the drivers will not allow the system to boot into gnome ( the desktop ) ...

btw - 16gb kingston hyperx hi performance RAM ( 2 x 8gb ) ... the asrock h81btcpro will not take any more than 16gb ... so i cant even test whether its the RAM ...

cpu is g1840 celeron dual core ... this could also be an issue here ...

im off to be in the next 25mins ... and wont be back on till monday now ... i hope it goes well for you with the testing ...

skype me if need be - as we seem to have a similar issue here ...

#crysx

does amd have the same issue? and did you tried another os, maybe windows 7 is the problem there

i would probably be in the same boat soon so i want to know
AMD has to workaround for more than 4 cards on w 7, but W 10 works with 6 cards ( I'll try 7 soon ). Nvidia works 6 cards on w 7 but some strange things from time to time happen.  I have several rigs (with 6 nvidia ) and some need 8+GB RAM some not, and last fun is AMD mobo: 6 cards work only one way, if I change position(slots) of 2 cards- only 4 start ( AMD cards, 380 ). To me looks like mobo switches off PCIe in case of smallest irregularity. Usually that is fixed with trying risers (I have them all types) and to me was good idea to short pins that signals "it is GPU" to mobo  ( here:   http://www.gobitgo.com/articles/1001/How-To-Correctly-Use-and-Install-PCI-E-Riser-Cables/  )

among the rig you have with nvidia, you can confirm that you are running 6 970 or 80 and not only small nvidia like 750?
I started with 6 960. 3 rigs. Now I have i.e. rig 2 980 with 4 960, and 5 980 with 1 960. It is not easy to power all that safely. in a few days I will try up to 7 cards, 980s on one rig.
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