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legendary
Activity: 1764
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Decred sp-mod #9 does 3.3 ghash on the 980ti. 2.7 for the 1080 is low

yes but with what consumption? 1080 can do 3300 with oc too, but consuming only 180w, the 980ti will consume like 250 or more


Sources?

Hypothesizing is fine, but mark it as such. Don't state something as fact unless you have sources for it.

mmmmm 1080 nice


is the above run at stock?

wondering what the power draw is ? if you don't have a watt meter, what is the percentage of TDP that the card is averaging ?



it has double the hashrate of a 970 with the wattage of one for decred, which is really good, but it cost 3 times more, not worth it for the moment, also decred is bad to mine versus eth
Decred is so bad right now that it makes less profit than mining lyra2v2 with a 750Ti or quark with a GTX970, that bad  Grin


Yup, still getting hammered by the Claymore AMD miner... If only Nvidia had something like that.

Real test is going to be what a 1080 gets in Eth with the fucked up memory issues since the 1080 uses a different type of memory and bus.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14885194

this guy is an insider, he tested both 1080 and 1070, they perform better than any gpu right now on any algo minus ethereum

and this without counting optimization and proper drivers

Not sure I believe 'all at 180w' unless they have a watt meter. A lot of people thought 970s wouldn't go over TDP or close to it. Doesn't show clock speeds or TDP either.

Currently I hear the 1080 throttles in games too at stock speeds, doesn't mention whether or not the fan profile was increased or if that happens under prolonged mining.

970 it's actually under tdp, those that have it above, don't know what power limit is and how to use it on msi afterburner, and or they are buying 8+6 pin gpu with again PL at 100%, which push the wattage to unnecessary level

i'm now at around 125w for 19.5MH with a 970

There isn't a correlation between power connectors and wattage besides on 750tis which generally don't come with a external power connector. I have some 6x2 EVGAs that use less wattage then Asus cards with a 6+2 connector. It's all based on how they're binned and that has nothing to do with power connectors.

You can't trust reported numbers on the PC itself, you have to use a watt meter. They've been proven wrong time and time again.

i have used both, and wattmeter display the same thing, unless now you want to say that even my wattmeter is broken

actually the wattmeter will report only the full consumption, including the whole system which will drain an additional 50-70w, so it's not that good to measure with the wattmeter the correct wattage of your gpu

result are the same 135w at 20.5 mega and 125w at 19.5 mega for each 970, the smi thing got boosted, it's pretty accurate now

If you use the same system, system load doesn't matter between different cards you test.

We're talking about card TDP, it's not always accurate. More then one person has confirmed that in this thread, myself included.


There isn't a correlation between power connectors and wattage besides on 750tis which generally don't come with a external power connector. I have some 6x2 EVGAs that use less wattage then Asus cards with a 6+2 connector. It's all based on how they're binned and that has nothing to do with power connectors.

You can't trust reported numbers on the PC itself, you have to use a watt meter. They've been proven wrong time and time again.

i have used both, and wattmeter display the same thing, unless now you want to say that even my wattmeter is broken

actually the wattmeter will report only the full consumption, including the whole system which will drain an additional 50-70w, so it's not that good to measure with the wattmeter the correct wattage of your gpu

result are the same 135w at 20.5 mega and 125w at 19.5 mega for each 970, the smi thing got boosted, it's pretty accurate now

Hi
I agree with bensam1231 on this one, you can only trust an AC wattmeter, sometimes GPU power reading is close, but a LOT of times is WAY OFF reality

an AC power meter measures the real thing, that is, what you pay every month!, and that's what matters the most. how much $$$ costs you to have your farm in operation.

the very first thing i do when i assemble a miner, i put everything except the GPUs, and power the rig, wait until the os loads, and with the system running and fully OS loaded, I measure how much does it use, in my case is 16W right now. (that includes the LCD  and power bar), then I put all cards in.

With this readings I know how much every card uses  (total power - 18W (mobo), result /3  and i know exactly how much each card is using)



this is not accurate either, because when you run six gpu on a motherboard it consume more in comparison with a empty motherboard, so from 18w like in your case, it may increase to 30-50

the same for cpu, anyway like i said, i did measure it with the wattmeter, and it report the same plus those 50-70w for other component, i'm running additional fan on my system, so it's there, smi is telling the true

That doesn't make sense. Only thing that would cause more load besides the CPU running at full frequency is the cards. You could turn off power saving features like cool'n'quiet or speedstep if you want to be really anal. Adding more cards shouldn't increase system load outside of the cards themselves. Something needs to draw the power.
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1070

There isn't a correlation between power connectors and wattage besides on 750tis which generally don't come with a external power connector. I have some 6x2 EVGAs that use less wattage then Asus cards with a 6+2 connector. It's all based on how they're binned and that has nothing to do with power connectors.

You can't trust reported numbers on the PC itself, you have to use a watt meter. They've been proven wrong time and time again.

i have used both, and wattmeter display the same thing, unless now you want to say that even my wattmeter is broken

actually the wattmeter will report only the full consumption, including the whole system which will drain an additional 50-70w, so it's not that good to measure with the wattmeter the correct wattage of your gpu

result are the same 135w at 20.5 mega and 125w at 19.5 mega for each 970, the smi thing got boosted, it's pretty accurate now

Hi
I agree with bensam1231 on this one, you can only trust an AC wattmeter, sometimes GPU power reading is close, but a LOT of times is WAY OFF reality

an AC power meter measures the real thing, that is, what you pay every month!, and that's what matters the most. how much $$$ costs you to have your farm in operation.

the very first thing i do when i assemble a miner, i put everything except the GPUs, and power the rig, wait until the os loads, and with the system running and fully OS loaded, I measure how much does it use, in my case is 16W right now. (that includes the LCD  and power bar), then I put all cards in.

With this readings I know how much every card uses  (total power - 18W (mobo), result /3  and i know exactly how much each card is using)



this is not accurate either, because when you run six gpu on a motherboard it consume more in comparison with a empty motherboard, so from 18w like in your case, it may increase to 30-50

the same for cpu, anyway like i said, i did measure it with the wattmeter, and it report the same plus those 50-70w for other component, i'm running additional fan on my system, so it's there, smi is telling the true
hero member
Activity: 710
Merit: 502

There isn't a correlation between power connectors and wattage besides on 750tis which generally don't come with a external power connector. I have some 6x2 EVGAs that use less wattage then Asus cards with a 6+2 connector. It's all based on how they're binned and that has nothing to do with power connectors.

You can't trust reported numbers on the PC itself, you have to use a watt meter. They've been proven wrong time and time again.

i have used both, and wattmeter display the same thing, unless now you want to say that even my wattmeter is broken

actually the wattmeter will report only the full consumption, including the whole system which will drain an additional 50-70w, so it's not that good to measure with the wattmeter the correct wattage of your gpu

result are the same 135w at 20.5 mega and 125w at 19.5 mega for each 970, the smi thing got boosted, it's pretty accurate now

Hi
I agree with bensam1231 on this one, you can only trust an AC wattmeter, sometimes GPU power reading is close, but a LOT of times is WAY OFF reality

an AC power meter measures the real thing, that is, what you pay every month!, and that's what matters the most. how much $$$ costs you to have your farm in operation.

the very first thing i do when i assemble a miner, i put everything except the GPUs, and power the rig, wait until the os loads, and with the system running and fully OS loaded, I measure how much does it use, in my case is 16W right now. (that includes the LCD  and power bar), then I put all cards in.

With this readings I know how much every card uses  (total power - 18W (mobo), result /3  and i know exactly how much each card is using)

legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1070
Decred sp-mod #9 does 3.3 ghash on the 980ti. 2.7 for the 1080 is low

yes but with what consumption? 1080 can do 3300 with oc too, but consuming only 180w, the 980ti will consume like 250 or more


Sources?

Hypothesizing is fine, but mark it as such. Don't state something as fact unless you have sources for it.

mmmmm 1080 nice


is the above run at stock?

wondering what the power draw is ? if you don't have a watt meter, what is the percentage of TDP that the card is averaging ?



it has double the hashrate of a 970 with the wattage of one for decred, which is really good, but it cost 3 times more, not worth it for the moment, also decred is bad to mine versus eth
Decred is so bad right now that it makes less profit than mining lyra2v2 with a 750Ti or quark with a GTX970, that bad  Grin


Yup, still getting hammered by the Claymore AMD miner... If only Nvidia had something like that.

Real test is going to be what a 1080 gets in Eth with the fucked up memory issues since the 1080 uses a different type of memory and bus.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14885194

this guy is an insider, he tested both 1080 and 1070, they perform better than any gpu right now on any algo minus ethereum

and this without counting optimization and proper drivers

Not sure I believe 'all at 180w' unless they have a watt meter. A lot of people thought 970s wouldn't go over TDP or close to it. Doesn't show clock speeds or TDP either.

Currently I hear the 1080 throttles in games too at stock speeds, doesn't mention whether or not the fan profile was increased or if that happens under prolonged mining.

970 it's actually under tdp, those that have it above, don't know what power limit is and how to use it on msi afterburner, and or they are buying 8+6 pin gpu with again PL at 100%, which push the wattage to unnecessary level

i'm now at around 125w for 19.5MH with a 970

There isn't a correlation between power connectors and wattage besides on 750tis which generally don't come with a external power connector. I have some 6x2 EVGAs that use less wattage then Asus cards with a 6+2 connector. It's all based on how they're binned and that has nothing to do with power connectors.

You can't trust reported numbers on the PC itself, you have to use a watt meter. They've been proven wrong time and time again.

i have used both, and wattmeter display the same thing, unless now you want to say that even my wattmeter is broken

actually the wattmeter will report only the full consumption, including the whole system which will drain an additional 50-70w, so it's not that good to measure with the wattmeter the correct wattage of your gpu

result are the same 135w at 20.5 mega and 125w at 19.5 mega for each 970, the smi thing got boosted, it's pretty accurate now
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1024
Decred sp-mod #9 does 3.3 ghash on the 980ti. 2.7 for the 1080 is low

yes but with what consumption? 1080 can do 3300 with oc too, but consuming only 180w, the 980ti will consume like 250 or more


Sources?

Hypothesizing is fine, but mark it as such. Don't state something as fact unless you have sources for it.

mmmmm 1080 nice


is the above run at stock?

wondering what the power draw is ? if you don't have a watt meter, what is the percentage of TDP that the card is averaging ?



it has double the hashrate of a 970 with the wattage of one for decred, which is really good, but it cost 3 times more, not worth it for the moment, also decred is bad to mine versus eth
Decred is so bad right now that it makes less profit than mining lyra2v2 with a 750Ti or quark with a GTX970, that bad  Grin


Yup, still getting hammered by the Claymore AMD miner... If only Nvidia had something like that.

Real test is going to be what a 1080 gets in Eth with the fucked up memory issues since the 1080 uses a different type of memory and bus.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14885194

this guy is an insider, he tested both 1080 and 1070, they perform better than any gpu right now on any algo minus ethereum

and this without counting optimization and proper drivers

Not sure I believe 'all at 180w' unless they have a watt meter. A lot of people thought 970s wouldn't go over TDP or close to it. Doesn't show clock speeds or TDP either.

Currently I hear the 1080 throttles in games too at stock speeds, doesn't mention whether or not the fan profile was increased or if that happens under prolonged mining.

970 it's actually under tdp, those that have it above, don't know what power limit is and how to use it on msi afterburner, and or they are buying 8+6 pin gpu with again PL at 100%, which push the wattage to unnecessary level

i'm now at around 125w for 19.5MH with a 970

There isn't a correlation between power connectors and wattage besides on 750tis which generally don't come with a external power connector. I have some 6x2 EVGAs that use less wattage then Asus cards with a 6+2 connector. It's all based on how they're binned and that has nothing to do with power connectors.

You can't trust reported numbers on the PC itself, you have to use a watt meter. They've been proven wrong time and time again.
legendary
Activity: 3164
Merit: 1003
Hi tbearhere
question
why do you keep the 750ti there, is insignificant compared to the other ones, and it uses a different compute architecture.
wouldn't be better get rid of it, at least until you solve the issue with the second GTX970 ? which is three times more powerful?

just a thought, 80% of my cards are 750Ti and GTX970, I never ever mixed them, i already have way too many problems with risers, lack of lanes, power limitations, to have to deal with different compute architectures in the same machine hehe.
(EDIT) I just saw the image you posted again, you could disable onboard VGA too, and use the vga on the 16x slot as primary adapter,less driver issues as well.
I'll have to try that...thx  I use 1x pcie power risers.
What do you mean by primary adapter with power risers?
And how do I get to the bios through team-viewer?  Thx

Sorry, the PSU i mention in my previous post was SENTEY SDP850SS (dunno why endup written sentry hehe, automatic corrector maybe)
Primary adapter I mean if you connect your monitor to the rig, the card connected to the first 16x connector, should be the primary adapter (ie connected to the monitor) if you dont conect a monitor (BETTER!) and access remotely, it doesn't matter  Grin

You don't get to the bios from team-viewer, that can only be done in servers, with iLO2 (HP) or DRAC (Dell) (fantastic feature btw!, but only reserved to the best of the best  Undecided )

650W, depends on the brand, could be a little small for 6x 750Ti, I will be more confortable with 750W 80plus. , i have that setup with a single sentey 850W PSU, better safe than sorry  Wink but if that PSU is good, and you keep TDP low, it should be enough, my rig uses 300W at the wall mining quark with 6x 750Ti so, 650W PSU, if can really take 650W, would be enough. for example a GX650 Coolermaster is a nice little beast, it will leaf is ass of with only 300W of power consumption hehe.

good that you have a power meter!! Smiley
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UL_(safety_organization)   Underwriters Laboratories
My psu is bad that is the problem my 750ti rig is mining but that one rig won't when the heat wave hit.
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1070


970 it's actually under tdp, those that have it above, don't know what power limit is and how to use it on msi afterburner, and or they are buying 8+6 pin gpu with again PL at 100%, which push the wattage to unnecessary level

i'm now at around 125w for 19.5MH with a 970

Profit for day ? .

5 x 970 = 1 eth a day or slightly more
legendary
Activity: 1134
Merit: 1001


970 it's actually under tdp, those that have it above, don't know what power limit is and how to use it on msi afterburner, and or they are buying 8+6 pin gpu with again PL at 100%, which push the wattage to unnecessary level

i'm now at around 125w for 19.5MH with a 970

Profit for day ? .
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1070
Decred sp-mod #9 does 3.3 ghash on the 980ti. 2.7 for the 1080 is low

yes but with what consumption? 1080 can do 3300 with oc too, but consuming only 180w, the 980ti will consume like 250 or more


Sources?

Hypothesizing is fine, but mark it as such. Don't state something as fact unless you have sources for it.

mmmmm 1080 nice


is the above run at stock?

wondering what the power draw is ? if you don't have a watt meter, what is the percentage of TDP that the card is averaging ?



it has double the hashrate of a 970 with the wattage of one for decred, which is really good, but it cost 3 times more, not worth it for the moment, also decred is bad to mine versus eth
Decred is so bad right now that it makes less profit than mining lyra2v2 with a 750Ti or quark with a GTX970, that bad  Grin


Yup, still getting hammered by the Claymore AMD miner... If only Nvidia had something like that.

Real test is going to be what a 1080 gets in Eth with the fucked up memory issues since the 1080 uses a different type of memory and bus.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14885194

this guy is an insider, he tested both 1080 and 1070, they perform better than any gpu right now on any algo minus ethereum

and this without counting optimization and proper drivers

Not sure I believe 'all at 180w' unless they have a watt meter. A lot of people thought 970s wouldn't go over TDP or close to it. Doesn't show clock speeds or TDP either.

Currently I hear the 1080 throttles in games too at stock speeds, doesn't mention whether or not the fan profile was increased or if that happens under prolonged mining.

970 it's actually under tdp, those that have it above, don't know what power limit is and how to use it on msi afterburner, and or they are buying 8+6 pin gpu with again PL at 100%, which push the wattage to unnecessary level

i'm now at around 125w for 19.5MH with a 970
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1024
Decred sp-mod #9 does 3.3 ghash on the 980ti. 2.7 for the 1080 is low

yes but with what consumption? 1080 can do 3300 with oc too, but consuming only 180w, the 980ti will consume like 250 or more


Sources?

Hypothesizing is fine, but mark it as such. Don't state something as fact unless you have sources for it.

mmmmm 1080 nice


is the above run at stock?

wondering what the power draw is ? if you don't have a watt meter, what is the percentage of TDP that the card is averaging ?



it has double the hashrate of a 970 with the wattage of one for decred, which is really good, but it cost 3 times more, not worth it for the moment, also decred is bad to mine versus eth
Decred is so bad right now that it makes less profit than mining lyra2v2 with a 750Ti or quark with a GTX970, that bad  Grin


Yup, still getting hammered by the Claymore AMD miner... If only Nvidia had something like that.

Real test is going to be what a 1080 gets in Eth with the fucked up memory issues since the 1080 uses a different type of memory and bus.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14885194

this guy is an insider, he tested both 1080 and 1070, they perform better than any gpu right now on any algo minus ethereum

and this without counting optimization and proper drivers

Not sure I believe 'all at 180w' unless they have a watt meter. A lot of people thought 970s wouldn't go over TDP or close to it. Doesn't show clock speeds or TDP either.

Currently I hear the 1080 throttles in games too at stock speeds, doesn't mention whether or not the fan profile was increased or if that happens under prolonged mining.
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1070
Decred sp-mod #9 does 3.3 ghash on the 980ti. 2.7 for the 1080 is low

yes but with what consumption? 1080 can do 3300 with oc too, but consuming only 180w, the 980ti will consume like 250 or more


Sources?

Hypothesizing is fine, but mark it as such. Don't state something as fact unless you have sources for it.

mmmmm 1080 nice


is the above run at stock?

wondering what the power draw is ? if you don't have a watt meter, what is the percentage of TDP that the card is averaging ?



it has double the hashrate of a 970 with the wattage of one for decred, which is really good, but it cost 3 times more, not worth it for the moment, also decred is bad to mine versus eth
Decred is so bad right now that it makes less profit than mining lyra2v2 with a 750Ti or quark with a GTX970, that bad  Grin


Yup, still getting hammered by the Claymore AMD miner... If only Nvidia had something like that.

Real test is going to be what a 1080 gets in Eth with the fucked up memory issues since the 1080 uses a different type of memory and bus.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14885194

this guy is an insider, he tested both 1080 and 1070, they perform better than any gpu right now on any algo minus ethereum

and this without counting optimization and proper drivers
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1024
Decred sp-mod #9 does 3.3 ghash on the 980ti. 2.7 for the 1080 is low

yes but with what consumption? 1080 can do 3300 with oc too, but consuming only 180w, the 980ti will consume like 250 or more


Sources?

Hypothesizing is fine, but mark it as such. Don't state something as fact unless you have sources for it.

mmmmm 1080 nice


is the above run at stock?

wondering what the power draw is ? if you don't have a watt meter, what is the percentage of TDP that the card is averaging ?



it has double the hashrate of a 970 with the wattage of one for decred, which is really good, but it cost 3 times more, not worth it for the moment, also decred is bad to mine versus eth
Decred is so bad right now that it makes less profit than mining lyra2v2 with a 750Ti or quark with a GTX970, that bad  Grin


Yup, still getting hammered by the Claymore AMD Dual Eth/Dcr miner... If only Nvidia had something like that.

Real test is going to be what a 1080 gets in Eth with the fucked up memory issues since the 1080 uses a different type of memory and bus.
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
SP,
Is your open source working with decred?  I just tried release80 with these results.

No, I haven't added decred. To compile sp-mod #4 you need to use the 1.7.6 fork. Just replace my kernal file and compile
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1114
I might consider it for your own private study, but open?

Private kernals are killing the coins. Publish some optimalizations and keep the wolf magic private...

I'm with SP on this one. The code should eventually be open.

As a miner the model I prefer is the bounty or donation system where the early
adopters get exclusivity for a limited time. Then the code is opened. It attracts the big miners who can
pay more and still be relatively cheaper due to scale.

Everybody is happy. The dev gets paid, The big miners get a head start with the new code and the small
miners don't have worry about ROI taking a year.
full member
Activity: 181
Merit: 100
SP,

Is your open source working with decred?  I just tried release80 with these results.


Code:
ccminer.exe -a decred --benchmark
pause

Code:
C:\Users\Kenneth\Downloads\ccminer-rel80\release80>ccminer.exe -a decred --benchmark
SP-Mod 1.5.79
Compiled with Visual C++ 18 using Nvidia CUDA Toolkit 7.5

  Based on pooler cpuminer 2.3.2 and the tpruvot@github fork
  CUDA support by Christian Buchner, Christian H. and DJM34
  Includes optimizations implemented by sp, klaust, tpruvot and tsiv.

Try `ccminer --help' for more information.

C:\Users\XXX\Downloads\ccminer-rel80\release80>pause
Press any key to continue . . .
member
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sp pls check your inbox
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
I might consider it for your own private study, but open?

Private kernals are killing the coins. Publish some optimalizations and keep the wolf magic private...
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
Yeah, you keep comparing against shit code and pretending that vast difference is just Nvidia's hardware and your code.
Shitcode but opensource. How much do you want to opensource yours? Perhaps I can buy it and opensource it. 10BTC?
Shit, for 10 BTC, I'd actually consider it. But it's kinda funny you talk about open source when your own hashrates that you're describing are from private code.

You are good in what you do. I can learn from your code. I will use 50% of my donations and spend on you. But only if you opensource your work.. What do you say?
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
Yeah, you keep comparing against shit code and pretending that vast difference is just Nvidia's hardware and your code.

Shitcode but opensource. How much do you want to opensource yours? Perhaps I can buy it and opensource it. 10BTC?
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