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legendary
Activity: 2002
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ICO? Not even once.
It seems now we urgently need faster x15 miner.
Ready to donate 0.01 btc for my poor gtx750)))

Is there a new x15 coin I missed?
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1114
A new opportunity may have come. Is anyone working on an argon2 miner? It just showed up on hashpower
at the top of their profitability.

If I could code cuda I'd be all over it.

It's a pretty insignificant coin mining profitability-wise; the total daily coins that can be mined worth a total of ~0.04 BTC.
Edit: I have no info on 2016Coin. 2016Coin's daily total emission is also worth ~0.04 BTC.
Edit#2: There's also OPES which also have a daily emission curently worth of ~0.035 BTC.
So all 3 of these Argon2 miners share a total of 0.115 BTC a day. It's up to the developers if they see that enough to try implementing it but I have a suspicion they won't, because scrypt-jane is not a particularily liked algo between devs.

That's an interesting approach to slow the arms race, choose an algo developpers don't like to work on.
legendary
Activity: 1510
Merit: 1003
It seems now we urgently need faster x15 miner.
Ready to donate 0.01 btc for my poor gtx750)))
legendary
Activity: 2002
Merit: 1051
ICO? Not even once.
A new opportunity may have come. Is anyone working on an argon2 miner? It just showed up on hashpower
at the top of their profitability.

If I could code cuda I'd be all over it.

It's a pretty insignificant coin mining profitability-wise; the total daily coins that can be mined worth a total of ~0.04 BTC.
Edit: I have no info on 2016Coin. 2016Coin's daily total emission is also worth ~0.04 BTC.
Edit#2: There's also OPES which also have a daily emission curently worth of ~0.035 BTC.
So all 3 of these Argon2 miners share a total of 0.115 BTC a day. It's up to the developers if they see that enough to try implementing it but I have a suspicion they won't, because scrypt-jane is not a particularily liked algo between devs.
legendary
Activity: 2716
Merit: 1094
Black Belt Developer
A new opportunity may have come. Is anyone working on an argon2 miner? It just showed up on hashpower
at the top of their profitability.

If I could code cuda I'd be all over it.

I'm over it since yesterday.
Currently I'm getting about 1 milliBTC per cpu/day.
The usual cpu mining non-profit ;-)

About the algo: most of the time is spent doing standard scrypt-jane, I don't think there is a lot to optimise.
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1114
A new opportunity may have come. Is anyone working on an argon2 miner? It just showed up on hashpower
at the top of their profitability.

If I could code cuda I'd be all over it.
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1024
This has been discussed before.

Without rewrites you get gpl violations.



No one cares about GPL violations in the crypto world. As long as you never form a legitimate business that makes million you'll never be worth suing. No one is going to send the coppers after you. It happens allll the time in the crypto world as well. Generally speaking it happens a LOT in the real world and usually nothing is ever done because the people who make GPL code don't have the resources to sue someone.

If this is your shiny suit of armor you're wearing things aren't going to go anywhere. If the 'business' ever gets big enough, you'll be able to get someone to rewrite everything that you haven't yet and pay them BTC.

I'm not saying it's a great idea to break 'laws', but in this case it really doesn't matter and no one gives two flips about it. That argument was just a easy way out to avoid actually doing something meaningful here.

I've been an opensource supporter for more than 20 years. I don't break the GPL, I use and support it.

Once again getting down into the dirty bits here. There was a lawyer that was in the thread earlier that said everything was a mess anyway (some parts you can sell and that's good and other parts you were't supposed to be able to, but people do it anyway). You can pretend you're doing everything appropriately, then sell copies through PMs and still pretend that you haven't violated anything. Not that that's what you do, but that's what the majority of the people do around here. It's still selling it and you still have to give source with it, depending on the license.

It doesn't matter. Assuming it's all for the greater good anyway, everyone would benefit from a well supported miner that uses a % to fund itself. A % fund is no different then selling copies through PMs as far as GPL licensing is concerned as well. A miner fee doesn't violate GPL licensing anymore then selling it in the first place does and people are already doing that. It's not specifically unique to a 'miner fee'.

I think this really all comes down to 'who gets paid'. People that still work on the code definitely should be the ones making the majority of the money, especially if stuff becomes depreciated. I mean open source miners are great and everything, but we all (devs and miners) know that's not cutting it and there is no uniform method for devs to earn money. A miner fee continually supports the developers for their work. Miners need to have work continually updated to in order to stay competitive with farms with private kernel devs.

Sorta sounds like you guys need someone to come along and act as arbitrary for determining who makes what. Ideally though, all the developers that still want to work for something more 'public' and make something back should be working on it and share code with each other so they can continually build a better miner. I don't know enough about coding to be able to tell what's going on, Nicehash might be a good candidate for that, depending on their end goals, which right now just seem to be making sure everyone can earn money and continue to hash on their service.

I'm not even sure why you'd want a .01BTC donation in the first place SP... A fee will earn you support as long as the miner is relevant. While maybe there are some people that would tear it apart and tear out the code, there are a lot of people that would use a 2% fee miner, myself included as long as it's continually supported and competitive. If someone releases their own 2% miner and it's faster, of course I'll switch... that's just the way it goes, it's competition.
legendary
Activity: 2716
Merit: 1094
Black Belt Developer
LINUX OPEN SOURCE ALGO SWITCHER--

If somebody good enough at coding could create a Linux algo-switcher that works as well as NiceHash Miner, they would have a personal product of value.

NiceHash Miner uses tthe .Net environment that is Windows oriented.  There Are .Net implementations in Linux now, but they require some skill to configure.  If anyone could even come up with a .Net installation tutorial for Linux that is mining orienteed, they'd have something.  The .Net 2.0 environment is required to run NiceHash Miner, I tred and failed to configure Wine to do the job.       --scryptr
i'm using an on the fly coded bash script for that, it works but it's very messy and it will unlikely fit for someone without bash coding skills...
if i manage to clean it up a little i'll let you know...

Thank You Skunk--

I have tried with the version of your script that you posted earlier.  I did get it to mine, but not  in a stable, reliable fashion.  Several of the pools that it was customized for shut down.  I discovered while toying with your script that "BASH" and "SH" were not equivalent commands, by the way.

I'll try to work with your original scrypt again.  I tried before to trim out the inactive pools and damaged the script.  A simplified version for NiceHash only would be a really attractive piece of code.     --scryptr

in the mean time i've added a lot of features to the script and some of them even revealed useless, therefore it became bloated and bug prone...
i'll rewrite it from scratch beginning with nicehash switching and slowly re-adding profit switching pools (there's just hashpower atm), local wallets switching and so on...
but please, don't hold your breath, i'm very busy and just mining with my desktop's gpu, therefore it will be a free spare time task.

please put you effort on git or svn so we can pull request it ;-)
sr. member
Activity: 329
Merit: 250
LINUX OPEN SOURCE ALGO SWITCHER--

If somebody good enough at coding could create a Linux algo-switcher that works as well as NiceHash Miner, they would have a personal product of value.

NiceHash Miner uses tthe .Net environment that is Windows oriented.  There Are .Net implementations in Linux now, but they require some skill to configure.  If anyone could even come up with a .Net installation tutorial for Linux that is mining orienteed, they'd have something.  The .Net 2.0 environment is required to run NiceHash Miner, I tred and failed to configure Wine to do the job.       --scryptr
i'm using an on the fly coded bash script for that, it works but it's very messy and it will unlikely fit for someone without bash coding skills...
if i manage to clean it up a little i'll let you know...

Thank You Skunk--

I have tried with the version of your script that you posted earlier.  I did get it to mine, but not  in a stable, reliable fashion.  Several of the pools that it was customized for shut down.  I discovered while toying with your script that "BASH" and "SH" were not equivalent commands, by the way.

I'll try to work with your original scrypt again.  I tried before to trim out the inactive pools and damaged the script.  A simplified version for NiceHash only would be a really attractive piece of code.     --scryptr

in the mean time i've added a lot of features to the script and some of them even revealed useless, therefore it became bloated and bug prone...
i'll rewrite it from scratch beginning with nicehash switching and slowly re-adding profit switching pools (there's just hashpower atm), local wallets switching and so on...
but please, don't hold your breath, i'm very busy and just mining with my desktop's gpu, therefore it will be a free spare time task.
legendary
Activity: 2716
Merit: 1094
Black Belt Developer
This has been discussed before.

Without rewrites you get gpl violations.



No one cares about GPL violations in the crypto world. As long as you never form a legitimate business that makes million you'll never be worth suing. No one is going to send the coppers after you. It happens allll the time in the crypto world as well. Generally speaking it happens a LOT in the real world and usually nothing is ever done because the people who make GPL code don't have the resources to sue someone.

If this is your shiny suit of armor you're wearing things aren't going to go anywhere. If the 'business' ever gets big enough, you'll be able to get someone to rewrite everything that you haven't yet and pay them BTC.

I'm not saying it's a great idea to break 'laws', but in this case it really doesn't matter and no one gives two flips about it. That argument was just a easy way out to avoid actually doing something meaningful here.
for info GPL licence doesn't mean 'free', you can request payment for a software even if it is published within GPL licence
(see the definition of the licence).  The GPL licence only means that the source has to be available (as far as I have understood)

hmmmm well... "available for free": if you sell a private miner to a single person, he can request the sources and he has the rights to re-distribute them for free.
business around opensource works in a different way than that.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1050
This has been discussed before.

Without rewrites you get gpl violations.



No one cares about GPL violations in the crypto world. As long as you never form a legitimate business that makes million you'll never be worth suing. No one is going to send the coppers after you. It happens allll the time in the crypto world as well. Generally speaking it happens a LOT in the real world and usually nothing is ever done because the people who make GPL code don't have the resources to sue someone.

If this is your shiny suit of armor you're wearing things aren't going to go anywhere. If the 'business' ever gets big enough, you'll be able to get someone to rewrite everything that you haven't yet and pay them BTC.

I'm not saying it's a great idea to break 'laws', but in this case it really doesn't matter and no one gives two flips about it. That argument was just a easy way out to avoid actually doing something meaningful here.
for info GPL licence doesn't mean 'free', you can request payment for a software even if it is published within GPL licence
(see the definition of the licence).  The GPL licence only means that the source has to be available (as far as I have understood)
sp_
legendary
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Team Black developer
But if I sell private kernals for 0.01Btc in donation and a 2% fee then I might be not breaking anything. What do you think bensam?

A 10% faster quark/x11 miner. Who wants it?
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
I've been an opensource supporter for more than 20 years. I don't break the GPL, I use and support it.

legendary
Activity: 2716
Merit: 1094
Black Belt Developer
This has been discussed before.

Without rewrites you get gpl violations.



No one cares about GPL violations in the crypto world. As long as you never form a legitimate business that makes million you'll never be worth suing. No one is going to send the coppers after you. It happens allll the time in the crypto world as well. Generally speaking it happens a LOT in the real world and usually nothing is ever done because the people who make GPL code don't have the resources to sue someone.

If this is your shiny suit of armor you're wearing things aren't going to go anywhere. If the 'business' ever gets big enough, you'll be able to get someone to rewrite everything that you haven't yet and pay them BTC.

I'm not saying it's a great idea to break 'laws', but in this case it really doesn't matter and no one gives two flips about it. That argument was just a easy way out to avoid actually doing something meaningful here.

I've been an opensource supporter for more than 20 years. I don't break the GPL, I use and support it.
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1024
This has been discussed before.

Without rewrites you get gpl violations.



No one cares about GPL violations in the crypto world. As long as you never form a legitimate business that makes million you'll never be worth suing. No one is going to send the coppers after you. It happens allll the time in the crypto world as well. Generally speaking it happens a LOT in the real world and usually nothing is ever done because the people who make GPL code don't have the resources to sue someone.

If this is your shiny suit of armor you're wearing things aren't going to go anywhere. If the 'business' ever gets big enough, you'll be able to get someone to rewrite everything that you haven't yet and pay them BTC.

I'm not saying it's a great idea to break 'laws', but in this case it really doesn't matter and no one gives two flips about it. That argument was just a easy way out to avoid actually doing something meaningful here.
legendary
Activity: 1797
Merit: 1028
LINUX OPEN SOURCE ALGO SWITCHER--

If somebody good enough at coding could create a Linux algo-switcher that works as well as NiceHash Miner, they would have a personal product of value.

NiceHash Miner uses tthe .Net environment that is Windows oriented.  There Are .Net implementations in Linux now, but they require some skill to configure.  If anyone could even come up with a .Net installation tutorial for Linux that is mining orienteed, they'd have something.  The .Net 2.0 environment is required to run NiceHash Miner, I tred and failed to configure Wine to do the job.       --scryptr
i'm using an on the fly coded bash script for that, it works but it's very messy and it will unlikely fit for someone without bash coding skills...
if i manage to clean it up a little i'll let you know...

Thank You Skunk--

I have tried with the version of your script that you posted earlier.  I did get it to mine, but not  in a stable, reliable fashion.  Several of the pools that it was customized for shut down.  I discovered while toying with your script that "BASH" and "SH" were not equivalent commands, by the way.

I'll try to work with your original scrypt again.  I tried before to trim out the inactive pools and damaged the script.  A simplified version for NiceHash only would be a really attractive piece of code.     --scryptr
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
This has been discussed before.

Without rewrites you get gpl violations.

full member
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Merit: 100
I just tested the latest quark kernal from before I started the sp-mod project.

https://github.com/djm34/ccminer-standard/releases

750ti strix:
ccminer12-djm34: 4700
sp-mod priv: 6325 (+34%)

970 g1:
ccminer12-djm34: 10300
sp-mod priv: 17800 (+72%)

960 strix:
djm34: 6600
sp-mod priv: 10900 (+65%)

why are you always showing a quark from one of my release, I never worked on it (kinda ridiculous... imo)  Grin
but I may one day...  Grin

You know you guys would make more money if you worked together instead of competing and remaking the wheel to 'prove' what you're selling is yours for some epeen contest. You guys should be building off eachothers work or we're going to end up in a situation where everyone is behind everyone else and they don't want to work on something that they haven't already optimized. If I understand things right, I'm sure SP has done some changes in Lyra that may be useful in other algos as well...

This isn't far from a business. Although I don't know how fast you guys work, so the best thing for right now is what Nicehash is doing.

X11 definitely could still use some love. There are quite a few big x11 coins and it hasn't been openly improved for quite some time.


Something you guys have to consider. Small miners make dick for income. .1 BTC means a lot to them because they'll barely make that in a week or two (just income, not counting electricity cost). They need a better miner for a better ROI. So a bigger improvement. Yes ROI matters.

'Farms' already have private devs working for them that make kernels on hand because they can employ them. So they don't care what you're making and wont purchase them from you.

We need a in between option. Miner fees accomplish that, which is why I push for them every now and then. It scales for everyone, big or small. You always get a piece of the pie. You guys can divy that up whatever way you want too. If DJM is doing the majority of the work on Neo, then it mainly goes to him. You could split it up based on speed increases compared to base speed as well. It's really the best possible method of supplying income to developers.

Seriously consider a miner fee and work together. This works out for everyone. If you're worried about security stop being lazy and code something for it. I'll use it as I've mentioned before as long as it has continued support and it has a reasonable fee like 2%.

You got my backing on this!
sr. member
Activity: 329
Merit: 250
LINUX OPEN SOURCE ALGO SWITCHER--

If somebody good enough at coding could create a Linux algo-switcher that works as well as NiceHash Miner, they would have a personal product of value.

NiceHash Miner uses tthe .Net environment that is Windows oriented.  There Are .Net implementations in Linux now, but they require some skill to configure.  If anyone could even come up with a .Net installation tutorial for Linux that is mining orienteed, they'd have something.  The .Net 2.0 environment is required to run NiceHash Miner, I tred and failed to configure Wine to do the job.       --scryptr
i'm using an on the fly coded bash script for that, it works but it's very messy and it will unlikely fit for someone without bash coding skills...
if i manage to clean it up a little i'll let you know...
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1024
I just tested the latest quark kernal from before I started the sp-mod project.

https://github.com/djm34/ccminer-standard/releases

750ti strix:
ccminer12-djm34: 4700
sp-mod priv: 6325 (+34%)

970 g1:
ccminer12-djm34: 10300
sp-mod priv: 17800 (+72%)

960 strix:
djm34: 6600
sp-mod priv: 10900 (+65%)

why are you always showing a quark from one of my release, I never worked on it (kinda ridiculous... imo)  Grin
but I may one day...  Grin

You know you guys would make more money if you worked together instead of competing and remaking the wheel to 'prove' what you're selling is yours for some epeen contest. You guys should be building off eachothers work or we're going to end up in a situation where everyone is behind everyone else and they don't want to work on something that they haven't already optimized. If I understand things right, I'm sure SP has done some changes in Quark that may be useful in other algos as well...

This isn't far from a business. Although I don't know how fast you guys work, so the best thing for right now is what Nicehash is doing.

X11 definitely could still use some love. There are quite a few big x11 coins and it hasn't been openly improved for quite some time.


Something you guys have to consider. Small miners make dick for income. .1 BTC means a lot to them because they'll barely make that in a week or two (just income, not counting electricity cost). They need a better miner for a better ROI. So a bigger improvement. Yes ROI matters.

'Farms' already have private devs working for them that make kernels on hand because they can employ them. So they don't care what you're making and wont purchase them from you.

We need a in between option. Miner fees accomplish that, which is why I push for them every now and then. It scales for everyone, big or small. You always get a piece of the pie. You guys can divy that up whatever way you want too. If DJM is doing the majority of the work on Neo, then it mainly goes to him. You could split it up based on speed increases compared to base speed as well. It's really the best possible method of supplying income to developers.

Seriously consider a miner fee and work together. This works out for everyone. If you're worried about security stop being lazy and code something for it. I'll use it as I've mentioned before as long as it has continued support and it has a reasonable fee like 2%.
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