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legendary
Activity: 1400
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I see the level of blah blah is reaching record highs!
I don't understand why sp_ and djm34 are "competing"... there is so little to compete for :-)
Especially if you consider every developer is saying "I have a full time job giving me 1000 times what I get for miner coding".
Maybe it's just for fun... if so, then go on, that's the spirit ;-)
Grin
I am not competing, it is sp who is competing  Grin
and quite frankly I am here for the fun also (and competition but at algo level not profitability level  Grin)


legendary
Activity: 1797
Merit: 1028
LINUX OPEN SOURCE ALGO SWITCHER--

If somebody good enough at coding could create a Linux algo-switcher that works as well as NiceHash Miner, they would have a personal product of value.

NiceHash Miner uses tthe .Net environment that is Windows oriented.  There Are .Net implementations in Linux now, but they require some skill to configure.  If anyone could even come up with a .Net installation tutorial for Linux that is mining orienteed, they'd have something.  The .Net 2.0 environment is required to run NiceHash Miner, I tred and failed to configure Wine to do the job.       --scryptr
full member
Activity: 229
Merit: 100
I see the level of blah blah is reaching record highs!
I don't understand why sp_ and djm34 are "competing"... there is so little to compete for :-)
Especially if you consider every developer is saying "I have a full time job giving me 1000 times what I get for miner coding".
Maybe it's just for fun... if so, then go on, that's the spirit ;-)

Those that do this for "fun" are rare i think.

Well, perhaps you are one of those.?.

The others around here, nah  Grin


legendary
Activity: 2716
Merit: 1094
Black Belt Developer
I see the level of blah blah is reaching record highs!
I don't understand why sp_ and djm34 are "competing"... there is so little to compete for :-)
Especially if you consider every developer is saying "I have a full time job giving me 1000 times what I get for miner coding".
Maybe it's just for fun... if so, then go on, that's the spirit ;-)
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1050
That's exactly what i mean.
People will donate/pay for profitable algo's. Kind of makes sense doesn't it?

If a farm with 1000 cards starts to mine with djm34's 25% faster neoscrypt kernal. The diff will skyrocket and the algo will not be profitable.
If they mine x11 with my 1% faster kernal, and the powercost is 90%.
The profit after electical bill will be 10% higher.

1% faster will not change the x11 difficulty.
hmmm... what am I doing in this discussion exactly ?  Grin
(what you say regarding neoscrypt is also true regarding your beloved algos... but hey  Grin)
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
That's exactly what i mean.
People will donate/pay for profitable algo's. Kind of makes sense doesn't it?

If a farm with 1000 cards starts to mine with djm34's 25% faster neoscrypt kernal. The diff will skyrocket and the algo will not be profitable.
If they mine x11 with my 1% faster kernal, and the powercost is 90%.
The profit after electical bill will be 10% higher.

1% faster will not change the x11 difficulty.
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
Yesterday I looked at the x11-x15 algos again. I have found some improvements.. The next version of the private miner will have a boost in x11-x15 , qubit , whirlpool, whirlpoolx and perhaps quark.
Can i have a HaleLuja!
Oh shit, i only have AMD cards  Roll Eyes
A wellcoded x11 kernal should be able to do 4-5MHASH on the 750ti @ 50 watt. I haven't done any work on the x11 kernal in 1 year.. With my code your old AMD cards will be obsolete.
If you can make 5 mhash on 750Ti x11 i will personally pay you 1 btc.
P.S. right now it's 3350kh\s

I will try. It will be in my private miner. You should buy it to support my work. 1-2% faster already in the x11 algo.

release 1 sp-mod private (bether than release 78):

X11 is up 30khash (750ti) (+1%)
x13 is up 100khash(750ti) (+4.3%)
x15 is up 66Khash(750ti) (+3.3%)
quark is up 200khash(750ti) (+3.2%)
lyra2v2 is up 250khash(750ti)(+6%)

Results vary a bit between the different cards and the clock rates. But they are almost always faster.
full member
Activity: 229
Merit: 100
Yesterday I looked at the x11-x15 algos again. I have found some improvements.. The next version of the private miner will have a boost in x11-x15 , qubit , whirlpool, whirlpoolx and perhaps quark.
Can i have a HaleLuja!
Oh shit, i only have AMD cards  Roll Eyes

A wellcoded x11 kernal should be able to do 4-5MHASH on the 750ti @ 50 watt. I haven't done any work on the x11 kernal in 1 year.. With my code your old AMD cards will be obsulete.

If you can make 5 mhash on 750Ti x11 i will personally pay you 1 btc.

P.S. right now it's 3350kh\s

That's exactly what i mean.

People will donate/pay for profitable algo's. Kind of makes sense doesn't it?
newbie
Activity: 51
Merit: 0
Yesterday I looked at the x11-x15 algos again. I have found some improvements.. The next version of the private miner will have a boost in x11-x15 , qubit , whirlpool, whirlpoolx and perhaps quark.
Can i have a HaleLuja!
Oh shit, i only have AMD cards  Roll Eyes

A wellcoded x11 kernal should be able to do 4-5MHASH on the 750ti @ 50 watt. I haven't done any work on the x11 kernal in 1 year.. With my code your old AMD cards will be obsulete.

If you can make 5 mhash on 750Ti x11 i will personally pay you 1 btc.

P.S. right now it's 3350kh\s
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1050
I have retrieved the latest version of the sp-mod source code and counted the code lines:

142 525 lines of code. Where 43349 lines is cuda code

Quote
cloc-1.64.exe ccminer-windows
     297 text files.
     296 unique files.
      62 files ignored.

http://cloc.sourceforge.net v 1.64  T=3.56 s (79.2 files/s, 52249.0 lines/s)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Language                     files          blank        comment           code
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
C                               47           3920           3541          70301
CUDA                            96           6657           3888          43349
C/C++ Header                   110           5599          17304          18657
C++                             14           1301            639           7603
Bourne Shell                     6            165            433           1793
PHP                              2             50             14            326
m4                               2             45              5            228
make                             3             33              7            132
HTML                             1              8              0            122
JSON                             1              4              0             14
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SUM:                           282          17782          25831         142525
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then I did I codeline count on the neoscrypt kernal:

 551 lines of cudacode.

Quote

..\cloc-1.64.exe neoscrypt
       2 text files.
       2 unique files.
       1 file ignored.

http://cloc.sourceforge.net v 1.64  T=0.03 s (58.3 files/s, 21966.1 lines/s)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Language                     files          blank        comment           code
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CUDA                             2            124             78            551
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SUM:                             2            124             78            551
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Djm34 is modding 1.27% of the code.
I have retrieved the latest version of the sp-mod source code and counted the code lines:

142 525 lines of code. Where 43349 lines is cuda code

Quote
cloc-1.64.exe ccminer-windows
     297 text files.
     296 unique files.
      62 files ignored.

http://cloc.sourceforge.net v 1.64  T=3.56 s (79.2 files/s, 52249.0 lines/s)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Language                     files          blank        comment           code
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
C                               47           3920           3541          70301
CUDA                            96           6657           3888          43349
C/C++ Header                   110           5599          17304          18657
C++                             14           1301            639           7603
Bourne Shell                     6            165            433           1793
PHP                              2             50             14            326
m4                               2             45              5            228
make                             3             33              7            132
HTML                             1              8              0            122
JSON                             1              4              0             14
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SUM:                           282          17782          25831         142525
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then I did I codeline count on the neoscrypt kernal:

 551 lines of cudacode.

Quote

..\cloc-1.64.exe neoscrypt
       2 text files.
       2 unique files.
       1 file ignored.

http://cloc.sourceforge.net v 1.64  T=0.03 s (58.3 files/s, 21966.1 lines/s)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Language                     files          blank        comment           code
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CUDA                             2            124             78            551
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SUM:                             2            124             78            551
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Djm34 is modding 1.27% of the code.
lol ok... I will need your services to count the number of lines in my next releases...
you make absolutely no sense you know... I modify what need to be modified and you forget to mention that
before modding, I wrote them...

and I have no idea about what you are talking... new or old code ? because as of today, I haven't released the new miner...
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
Yesterday I looked at the x11-x15 algos again. I have found some improvements.. The next version of the private miner will have a boost in x11-x15 , qubit , whirlpool, whirlpoolx and perhaps quark.
Can i have a HaleLuja!
Oh shit, i only have AMD cards  Roll Eyes

A wellcoded x11 kernal should be able to do 4-5MHASH on the 750ti @ 50 watt. I haven't done any work on the x11 kernal in 1 year.. With my code your old AMD cards will be obsolete.
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
I have retrieved the latest version of the sp-mod source code and counted the code lines:

142 525 lines of code. Where 43349 lines is cuda code

Quote
cloc-1.64.exe ccminer-windows
     297 text files.
     296 unique files.
      62 files ignored.

http://cloc.sourceforge.net v 1.64  T=3.56 s (79.2 files/s, 52249.0 lines/s)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Language                     files          blank        comment           code
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
C                               47           3920           3541          70301
CUDA                            96           6657           3888          43349
C/C++ Header                   110           5599          17304          18657
C++                             14           1301            639           7603
Bourne Shell                     6            165            433           1793
PHP                              2             50             14            326
m4                               2             45              5            228
make                             3             33              7            132
HTML                             1              8              0            122
JSON                             1              4              0             14
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SUM:                           282          17782          25831         142525
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then I did I codeline count on the neoscrypt kernal:

 551 lines of cudacode.

Quote

..\cloc-1.64.exe neoscrypt
       2 text files.
       2 unique files.
       1 file ignored.

http://cloc.sourceforge.net v 1.64  T=0.03 s (58.3 files/s, 21966.1 lines/s)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Language                     files          blank        comment           code
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CUDA                             2            124             78            551
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SUM:                             2            124             78            551
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Djm34 is modding 1.27% of the code.
full member
Activity: 229
Merit: 100
Yesterday I looked at the x11-x15 algos again. I have found some improvements.. The next version of the private miner will have a boost in x11-x15 , qubit , whirlpool, whirlpoolx and perhaps quark.

Can i have a HaleLuja!

Oh shit, i only have AMD cards  Roll Eyes
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
Yesterday I looked at the x11-x15 algos again. I have found some improvements.. The next version of the private miner will have a boost in x11-x15 , qubit , whirlpool, whirlpoolx and perhaps quark.
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
Sure there is, well it can be estimated based on expected mining revenue.

scryptr paid for 500 kh of quark. His ROI is how long it would take to recover the cost of the miner with 500 kh
after subtracting the cost of electricity to power that much hash. The falacy is that all the hash produced by the
miner is going toward ROI.

He also got 0.7MHash in the lyra2v2 algo


scryptr's results on the gtx 960 (compared to release 74 / nicehashminer):

keccak: +20%
lyra2v2: +11,64%
quark: +5.55%
Qubit: +3.03%
Nist5: +2.2%
x11: +2%
x13: +1.8%
Whirlpoolx: +1.2%

8 algos (including the most profitable) with an average percent increase of 5.9% more hash



The problem is optimization is an incremental process that produces diminishing returns and requires a lot more
effort to produce small improvements. These kinds of improvements only appeal to large operations that with scale
can ROI in a much shorter time.


With the private miner scryptr is earning $3.5 per card. Most of you have 10 cards or more. Some of you have more than 100 cards, and some have 1000+ cards.

It is complicated by the migration to cuda 7.5 where a lot of effort is needed just to
recover lost hash compared to 6.5, not something most people are prepared to pay for.

But it has to be done, and somebody had to do the job. The miner will get a higher hashrate in the end because the compiler is smarter and bether than before..

I expect donations to be pretty thin until something new happens. It just the nature of the business.

What do you think will happen when DJM34 will release his 25%  faster miner and everybody mine neoscrypt? Is feathercoin and the clones able to hold the massive increase in the hashrate?
No.. The difficulty will rise, and the profit will decline. Then everybody will go back to mine another more profitable algo with the sp-mod.
The only way to guarantee a profit increase is to optimize all the minable algos.

I have done this in the private miner. You can buy the private miner for 0.1BTC and verify the results yourself.

legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1114
1% can be done by closing chrome and disable hardware acc... just saying.

here is a math question:

I have released 78 exe files.
If I have done 1% improvement in an algo in each release. How many percent is the total gain?
The answer is  117% gain

like for lyra2rev2 ? 5% at each release  Grin with a global 5%  Grin (what kind of math is that ??)

why I am even trolling this ?  Grin

we can maths here well.

SERIOUSLY, FOLKS!!! --

My EVGA GTX 960 SC mining with Private Miner while being auto-switched by NiceHash Miner makes about 50 cents (1/2 Dollar, USA) per day on a GOOD day.  It is the only card that can use the Private Miner; my other rigs are Linux. Return of Investment (ROI) for this miner is a couple months or more, if I only count what I earn on this card.

What I am hoping is that enough miners will contribute a proportion of their proceeds to convince sp_ (and DJM34) to start including the improved code in the open source distributions.  Not everyone pulls in big digital chips, but all together it can matter.  My few rigs will bring in enough to cover my recent contributions within a week.  If the coders start disributing their code freely soon, my Linux rigs will benefit, too.       --scryptr

POP QUIZ:  500kh/s is what percentage of 11MH/s?  (hint: Quark improvement)

ditto ...

ditto ...

o yes - and ditto ...

my argument exactly ...

though i cant look at roi - as there is no real thing as roi in this type of investment ...

windows ... pffft ...

#crysx

Sure there is, well it can be estimated based on expected mining revenue.

scryptr paid for 500 kh of quark. His ROI is how long it would take to recover the cost of the miner with 500 kh
after subtracting the cost of electricity to power that much hash. The falacy is that all the hash produced by the
miner is going toward ROI.

The problem is optimization is an incremental process that produces diminishing returns and requires a lot more
effort to produce small improvements. These kinds of improvements only appeal to large operations that with scale
can ROI in a much shorter time. It is complicated by the migration to cuda 7.5 where a lot of effort is needed just to
recover lost hash compared to 6.5, not something most people are prepared to pay for.

I expect donations to be pretty thin until something new happens. It just the nature of the business.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1091
--- ChainWorks Industries ---
1% can be done by closing chrome and disable hardware acc... just saying.

here is a math question:

I have released 78 exe files.
If I have done 1% improvement in an algo in each release. How many percent is the total gain?
The answer is  117% gain

like for lyra2rev2 ? 5% at each release  Grin with a global 5%  Grin (what kind of math is that ??)

why I am even trolling this ?  Grin

we can maths here well.

SERIOUSLY, FOLKS!!! --

My EVGA GTX 960 SC mining with Private Miner while being auto-switched by NiceHash Miner makes about 50 cents (1/2 Dollar, USA) per day on a GOOD day.  It is the only card that can use the Private Miner; my other rigs are Linux. Return of Investment (ROI) for this miner is a couple months or more, if I only count what I earn on this card.

What I am hoping is that enough miners will contribute a proportion of their proceeds to convince sp_ (and DJM34) to start including the improved code in the open source distributions.  Not everyone pulls in big digital chips, but all together it can matter.  My few rigs will bring in enough to cover my recent contributions within a week.  If the coders start disributing their code freely soon, my Linux rigs will benefit, too.       --scryptr

POP QUIZ:  500kh/s is what percentage of 11MH/s?  (hint: Quark improvement)

ditto ...

ditto ...

o yes - and ditto ...

my argument exactly ...

though i cant look at roi - as there is no real thing as roi in this type of investment ...

windows ... pffft ...

#crysx
legendary
Activity: 1797
Merit: 1028
1% can be done by closing chrome and disable hardware acc... just saying.

here is a math question:

I have released 78 exe files.
If I have done 1% improvement in an algo in each release. How many percent is the total gain?
The answer is  117% gain

like for lyra2rev2 ? 5% at each release  Grin with a global 5%  Grin (what kind of math is that ??)

why I am even trolling this ?  Grin

we can maths here well.

SERIOUSLY, FOLKS!!! --

My EVGA GTX 960 SC mining with Private Miner while being auto-switched by NiceHash Miner makes about 50 cents (1/2 Dollar, USA) per day on a GOOD day.  It is the only card that can use the Private Miner; my other rigs are Linux. Return of Investment (ROI) for this miner is a couple months or more, if I only count what I earn on this card.

What I am hoping is that enough miners will contribute a proportion of their proceeds to convince sp_ (and DJM34) to start including the improved code in the open source distributions.  Not everyone pulls in big digital chips, but all together it can matter.  My few rigs will bring in enough to cover my recent contributions within a week.  If the coders start disributing their code freely soon, my Linux rigs will benefit, too.       --scryptr

POP QUIZ:  500kh/s is what percentage of 11MH/s?  (hint: Quark improvement)
member
Activity: 106
Merit: 10
1% can be done by closing chrome and disable hardware acc... just saying.

here is a math question:

I have released 78 exe files.
If I have done 1% improvement in an algo in each release. How many percent is the total gain?
The answer is  117% gain

like for lyra2rev2 ? 5% at each release  Grin with a global 5%  Grin (what kind of math is that ??)

why I am even trolling this ?  Grin

we can maths here well.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1050
1% can be done by closing chrome and disable hardware acc... just saying.

here is a math question:

I have released 78 exe files.
If I have done 1% improvement in an algo in each release. How many percent is the total gain?
The answer is  117% gain

like for lyra2rev2 ? 5% at each release  Grin with a global 5%  Grin (what kind of math is that ??)

why I am even trolling this ?  Grin
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