[CENSORSHIP] Matthew N. Wright - page 6.

farlack

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Quote from: qwk on August 15, 2013, 11:35:31 AM

Quote from: theymos on August 13, 2013, 06:01:30 PM

He was trolling continuously. He hasn't changed: He edited that poll after people had already voted to create misleading results.

Quote from: John (John K.) on August 14, 2013, 12:00:19 PM

Well, the forum policy since a long time ago was to ban trolls (as they impede the speech of others), and tag scammers.

As far as I can tell, banning MNW seems to be a consistent case of enforcing the forum rules. Period.

But, and I think I stated that on several occasions, I do have a lot of respect for Matthew and it makes me somewhat sad to no longer have him around.

I guess the right thing to do here would be to lift the ban as soon as the moderators find that appropriate.

Quote from: farlack on August 14, 2013, 12:14:24 PM

Oh, sorry I misunderstood, I see now how trolling could be so much worse than someone stealing hundreds even thousands of dollars worth of items, money, and bitcoin.
The thing about scammers, they don't pay back shit.

Matthew held the SCAMMER tag for a while. He paid back, no shit!

Had a scammer tag for a shitty bet he didn't collect money on? That one? BFL made a bet that they failed to deliver on for a very long time, donating 1000 BTC to charity, then formed their own charity and donated the BTC to? You cant compare the two, Matthew didn't scam shit on that bet, there is a difference between blatantly stealing and making a joke bet you cant afford.

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Quote from: Kouye on August 15, 2013, 01:44:46 PM

Quote from: zackclark70 on August 15, 2013, 01:37:31 PM

from what I have been hearing and seeing theymos is good friends with some of the biggest scammers on here and there are far to many people paying off mods so nothing is going to change anytime soon

This post is not about theymos, please stay focused.

This post is about someone who was either:

- banned according to forum rules, in which case I will compile a list of trolls to help theymos cleaning up, cause he obviously missed a couple hundreds in his ban wave.
- banned because theymos felt like banning him, in which case I hope for some gentlemen conclusion.

my post is relevant to the thread as its more than likely that Matthew N. Wright never paid of the right people or he had info on the mods/admin that they are trying to cover up the few people on this forum that know what's going on will know what I mean

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Quote from: zackclark70 on August 15, 2013, 01:37:31 PM

from what I have been hearing and seeing theymos is good friends with some of the biggest scammers on here and there are far to many people paying off mods so nothing is going to change anytime soon

This post is not about theymos, please stay focused.

This post is about someone who was either:

- banned according to forum rules, in which case I will compile a list of trolls to help theymos cleaning up, cause he obviously missed a couple hundreds in his ban wave.
- banned because theymos felt like banning him, in which case I hope for some gentlemen conclusion.

zackclark70

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from what I have been hearing and seeing theymos is good friends with some of the biggest scammers on here and there are far to many people paying off mods so nothing is going to change anytime soon

Kouye

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Quote from: Loozik on August 15, 2013, 01:21:12 PM

1. Can someone post the definition of trolling?
2. Can someone show examples of the trolling by MNW (links, pictures, etc)?

1. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll
2. just check his post history

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Quote from: qwk on August 15, 2013, 11:35:31 AM

But, and I think I stated that on several occasions, I do have a lot of respect for Matthew and it makes me somewhat sad to no longer have him around.

There is nothing stopping him from creating another account. He can, and most certainly will, continue to be around. And if he wants, he can troll with his new account.

The point of the ban, as far as I can figure, is that trolling from a new account is far less effective.

tinus42

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Wasn't there something about zhoutong as well? He hasn't got a scammer tag but I read lots of people lost money with him.

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Quote from: Kouye on August 15, 2013, 12:54:59 PM

He was banned for trolling.

1. Can someone post the definition of trolling?

2. Can someone show examples of the trolling by MNW (links, pictures, etc)?

Kouye

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Quote from: John (John K.) on August 15, 2013, 12:10:28 PM

Well, to be honest here I don't think theymos can please everyone. Sad

I remember that we got a lot of requests for Matthew to be banned after the Pirate event too. I guess if we went for the all-ban policy for scammers Matthew wouldn't be around to amend his bet by repaying partially here...

Agreed, but this was a year ago, and is completely irrelevant, here.

He was banned for trolling.
Not because he screwed up earlier - which everyone, including him, agrees upon.
Not because people asked theymos to ban him in mp (hopefully).
Just because of... trolling.

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Quote from: Kouye on August 15, 2013, 11:59:06 AM

Quote from: John (John K.) on August 15, 2013, 11:49:30 AM

PS: Just to clarify, only admins can lift bans here, not moderators. I usually consult with theymos on stuff like this though, and would prefer to leave the decision to him here.

Which is perfectly understandable.

You were not the one banning him for ~~voicing out his opinion about this Garr255 scam thing~~ trolling...
I wish you were in charge here, actually.

Ooops, did I just troll? Lips sealed

Seriously, theymos, I understand you might have felt uneasy about some of his posts, but this really looks like an abuse of power.
You need to let people express what they think, including conspiracy theories about you, too.
That's one of the burdens that comes with your position.
If people were not globally trusting you, this forum wouldn't be the shade of what it is, you're safe and don't have to fear those random rants!

Please relax and reconsider!

Well, to be honest here I don't think theymos can please everyone. Sad

I remember that we got a lot of requests for Matthew to be banned after the Pirate event too. I guess if we went for the all-ban policy for scammers Matthew wouldn't be around to amend his bet by repaying partially here...

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Quote from: John (John K.) on August 15, 2013, 11:49:30 AM

PS: Just to clarify, only admins can lift bans here, not moderators. I usually consult with theymos on stuff like this though, and would prefer to leave the decision to him here.

Which is perfectly understandable.

You were not the one banning him for ~~voicing out his opinion about this Garr255 scam thing~~ trolling...
I wish you were in charge here, actually.

Ooops, did I just troll? Lips sealed

Seriously, theymos, I understand you might have felt uneasy about some of his posts, but this really looks like an abuse of power.
You need to let people express what they think, including conspiracy theories about you, too.
That's one of the burdens that comes with your position.
If people were not globally trusting you, this forum wouldn't be the shade of what it is, you're safe and don't have to fear those random rants!

Please relax and reconsider!

John (John K.)

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Quote from: qwk on August 15, 2013, 11:35:31 AM

Quote from: theymos on August 13, 2013, 06:01:30 PM

He was trolling continuously. He hasn't changed: He edited that poll after people had already voted to create misleading results.

Quote from: John (John K.) on August 14, 2013, 12:00:19 PM

Well, the forum policy since a long time ago was to ban trolls (as they impede the speech of others), and tag scammers.

As far as I can tell, banning MNW seems to be a consistent case of enforcing the forum rules. Period.

But, and I think I stated that on several occasions, I do have a lot of respect for Matthew and it makes me somewhat sad to no longer have him around.

I guess the right thing to do here would be to lift the ban as soon as the moderators find that appropriate.

Quote from: farlack on August 14, 2013, 12:14:24 PM

Oh, sorry I misunderstood, I see now how trolling could be so much worse than someone stealing hundreds even thousands of dollars worth of items, money, and bitcoin.
The thing about scammers, they don't pay back shit.

Matthew held the SCAMMER tag for a while. He paid back, no shit!

PS: Just to clarify, only admins can lift bans here, not moderators. I usually consult with theymos on stuff like this though, and would prefer to leave the decision to him here.

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Quote from: theymos on August 13, 2013, 06:01:30 PM

He was trolling continuously. He hasn't changed: He edited that poll after people had already voted to create misleading results.

Quote from: John (John K.) on August 14, 2013, 12:00:19 PM

Well, the forum policy since a long time ago was to ban trolls (as they impede the speech of others), and tag scammers.

As far as I can tell, banning MNW seems to be a consistent case of enforcing the forum rules. Period.

But, and I think I stated that on several occasions, I do have a lot of respect for Matthew and it makes me somewhat sad to no longer have him around.

I guess the right thing to do here would be to lift the ban as soon as the moderators find that appropriate.

Quote from: farlack on August 14, 2013, 12:14:24 PM

Oh, sorry I misunderstood, I see now how trolling could be so much worse than someone stealing hundreds even thousands of dollars worth of items, money, and bitcoin.
The thing about scammers, they don't pay back shit.

Matthew held the SCAMMER tag for a while. He paid back, no shit!

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Quote from: Ente on August 15, 2013, 09:32:52 AM

About the coins: Mods are paid here now. Both from ad-revenues and donations, as I read.

AFAIK only funds from advertising(~25%) are used to pay Moderators and Administrators. No donation funds are used for those payments.

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Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on August 15, 2013, 11:01:28 AM

Just the numbers would suggest that MemoryDealers is more likely to be a scammer than.. packet7 Roll Eyes

Major Bitcoin Preachers don't have the best track records either, Bruce Wagner ring a bell?
Works for me!

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Just the numbers would suggest that MemoryDealers is more likely to be a scammer than.. packet7 Roll Eyes

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Quote from: theymos on August 14, 2013, 06:44:27 AM

There have been several VIPs and Donators who were banned (eg. Goat) or scammer-tagged (eg. pirateat40, cablepair).

VIP / Donator Fun Facts:

38 VIPs, 4 SCAMMERs -> 10.5% SCAM
108 Donators, 4 SCAMMERs, 1 Untrustworthy -> 3.7% SCAM, 0.925% Untrustworthy

If in doubt, trust a Donator!

Code:

List of VIP Donators (50 BTC)

smart1985 -> Mybitcointrade.com
Canaca
casascius
mndrix
Als Pawnshop
btcx
Brian DeLoach
zhoutong
Metabank.ru
BTC_Bear
pirateat40 - SCAMMER
znort987
jorgen
Graet
gigavps
cryptoxchange - SCAMMER
BitAvenue -> R- - SCAMMER
Goat -> Chaang Noi (Goat) ช้างน้อย
Btc4Domains
mrbrown
01BTC10
imsaguy
cablepair -> SCAMMER
BitcoinBaltar
usagi
BCB
eb3full
MemoryDealers
augustocroppo
buzzdave
Dustin D. Trammell a.k.a. I)ruid -> dustintrammell
XMLGold
bitconexfoier
johnascii
Hexadecibel
mLiberty
lixiaolai
TradeFortress

38 VIPs, 4 SCAMMERs -> 10.5% SCAM

List of Donators (10 BTC)

Narydu
Blitzboom -> Blitz
qwk
shakaru - SCAMMER
Lord Fog -> Lord F(r)og
FNIB -> Hous1955
Transisto
Gyom
molecular
ribuck
edd
eldentyrell
chunglam
DeepBit
PMX-67-de
DeathAndTaxes
copumpkin
Matthew N. Wright - Untrustworthy
Jonathan Ryan Owens
cbeast
reeses
coretechs
mcorlett
bo2573
PatrickHarnett - SCAMMER
Meni Rosenfeld
Boss -> Jon
BadBitcoin -> BadBitcoin (James Sutton)
Seal
organofcorti
lonelyminer -> lonelyminer (Peter Šurda)
jarsumarsu
bitsforcoins
aurumxchange
CAcoins
gnar1ta$
bccasino
BitcoinExchange
BrightAnarchist
AndyG
Kluge
lightlord
OgNasty
wogaut
TheBitLLC
deego
coblee
tgmarks
zefir
Raize
PsychoticBoy - Staff
AniceInovation
packet7
tseale
Blaztoize
ciuciu
minimalB
bitfoo
iSellBitcoins
cytokine
Jake
Fordy -> fanquake
nave
datafish
coinrolls2
vescudero
miaviator
ShadowAlexey
DeaDTerra
vasgolova
friedcat
Otoh
ianspain
Soros Shorts
bg002h
ElitePork
RustyRyan - SCAMMER
deeplink ---- ? Mendacium ?
zebedee
physicist
gllen
Jutarul
ShadesOfMarble
muyuu
Kris
c_k
lukasbradley
Alwaysmining - SCAMMER
Arto
ztex
BlackLilac
torac
glassuser
buybitcoinbycreditcard
betbybitcoin
Arcurus
HorseRider
primeasic
mah87
bitsalame
rpietila
aristodemus
zeroday
pierrejo
CanaryInTheMine
ajk
ASICME.COM
Hailong

108 Donators, 4 SCAMMERs, 1 Untrustworthy -> 3.7% SCAM, 0.925% Untrustworthy

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Quote from: Loozik on August 15, 2013, 09:38:25 AM

2. Are there any examples of ''troll messages''?

Anything which isn't in line with the bitcoin gospel is considered trolling. Gladly that isn't theymos's definition or I would not longer be here. Wink

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Quote from: Anduck on August 15, 2013, 09:33:39 AM

He didn't get banned for that bet, he got banned for his "troll messages"/trolling.

I see people who have scammed being here in the forums as Hero members without any tags, just carrying a little neg rating from theymos. For example bulanula who scammed over 22 bitcoins, had scammer tag for a while..

1. I am a silly newbie then Wink

Still learning the rules of the house.

2. Are there any examples of ''troll messages''?

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Quote from: Loozik on August 15, 2013, 09:31:08 AM

Quote from: Kouye on August 15, 2013, 09:19:49 AM

There is a full list here.

Thanks.

1. I think Theymos did right by banning Matthew from posting (I enjoyed MNW's posts but had no idea about the bet case), yet at the same time allowing him to send and receive PMs.

2. Ability to receive PMs and replying to them is essential for Matthew to communicate with his creditors (people he has financial liabilities towards) and essential for his creditors to reach him.

3. As soon as Matthew reaches settlements with all the creditors and pays them, the ban may be lifted.

I don't think this has anything to do with the current ban.

He got a scammer tag for this, which he got removed after reaching a Settlement with all people involved (I won't use creditors as Matthew refused to take any money in advance from any participant). The ones outstanding are people that have left this forum for good, giving him no way to resolve this.

After that he got the untrustworthy tag.

This story is over now. Banning him nearly 1 Year later would just be ridiculous.

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