Topic: ChangeNow.io (Evercode Lab) - Scam. Illegally holding of 100 BCH (11 bitcoins). - page 21. (Read 34427 times)

Hello, everyone. We're here to clear everything up. Our automated verification system deemed this user's transaction suspicious, so we asked this user to provide some ID and the source of funds according to KYC guidelines, which, as you might know, every service on the market follows. In response to that, he sent us a fake ID picture which he self-admittedly got off of Google, because he, quote, "didn't take the service seriously". He also failed to provide any coherent information about the source of his funds. He did send us a different ID picture after some more talking to our support, but only after an investigation had been launched.

We mention the fact that we might ask the user to provide identification in case of a suspicious transaction in our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy, which this user also failed to familiarize himself with before using ChangeNOW.

As for the coins that we supposedly "stole": they have been moved to a cold storage where they will remain untouched until the investigation is complete. It’s been a number of times that we actually prevented theft of stolen funds this way. We hope that you understand our tactics and realize that we aren't interested in ripping our customers off just like that. Besides, our support team has repeatedly stated to this user that he will get his funds back after the situation clears up. Good day.

Wouldn't this be illegal? It is the easy option, but I would advice against it. Both parties are wrong here. However, the op's is the lesser crime. In most jurisdictions, his is a simple misdemeanor offense and does not warrant jail time. Unless, there is more to this than the exchange is letting on, but i doubt it.

On the other hand, Changenow are guilty of false representation: Making affirmative statements that the exchange is anonymous and limitless, not needing an account and so forth. Updating their T&S after the fact does not change this. This can lead to jail time as it is often considered fraudulent.

The op has made it clear he will not send his personal documents to "scammers"

Changnow should return the coins to the same address but they insist on KYC.

Both parties should find a reputable third party to hold the coins, and is willing to verify the op's identity. The coins should be released after the op passes KYC and removes the FUD on changenow.

Changenow and every other exchange that requires KYC from customers must alert them about this before taking deposits..

I think the best way the OP can resolve this issue is to ask changenow to return the crypto to the same address it was sent from. If they continue to behave like scammers then I think the OP should send ID but not his. I would never send my ID to scammer exchanges. He should make a deal with someone who is willing to part with their ID in return for some commission and make the video call, all the while claiming to be the OP (as long as it is legal in the country the OP is residing or is a citizen of). After the OP gets his crypto back he should never deal with changenow scammers again.

I've asked friends of mine from Interpol and Europol about this Company. They looked up cases related with this exchange but nothing shows up and this company address is fake. The Russians never ever corporate with Europol and Interpol that's what they told me. I've seen many Cases with russian exchanges and some of them reply Wallet onwer as Donald J Trump.

Ok, tell me, is this the first time that exchanges require KYC, in the event that the amount of exchange is large? I think not, but no one paid big money, for making his problem popular. I have 2 questions: how do you think the OP can solve this problem? What would you do?

Why are all those who do not agree with the OP you are ready to record in the trolls? Why do you think that I work for the exchanger? I have my own position. I would not send fake documents, at the risk of losing 100 BCH. That's what I can not understand from the beginning. I want to understand this. I'm not happy with the wording "I'm afraid it can be scammers". Scammers are around us in real life, not just on the Internet. OP does not leave the house, for fear of scammers? I think no.

P.S. If you are not familiar with the words "democracy" and "freedom of speech", I advise you to use Google.

your exchange will not survive. And I find it very strange that a "reputable" company such as yours would employ trolls to represent it. If this is how you run your business, then the op is right not sending you his ID.

Ok, tell me, is this the first time that exchanges require KYC, in the event that the amount of exchange is large? I think not, but no one paid big money, for making his problem popular. I have 2 questions: how do you think the OP can solve this problem? What would you do?

I would never send my ID to these exchanges.

The OP did not start an information war. Many people than him because he kindly paid from his own pocket to inform all of us about the way he was treated and to beware of changenow because they lie when they state: "anonymous and limitless"

What's with the Newbies in this thread shilling for the scammers?

OP paid not to warn someone, no! This is an information war against the exchange. He wants to force the exchange to surrender, that is, to give 100 BCH without KYC. Agree, this problem would not have been if the OP had taken this seriously. He says:


Tell me, who, if not the person who has something to hide, will do it? In addition, he has not yet provided these documents. Ask yourself why?

Kudos to the OP who paid for this bitcointalk forum to display his ads highlighting the way he was treated by changenow. Much respect to him.

I took an image with someone's passport from google-images and sent them.

If an exchange that does not work legally requires documents, then you can wait for gangsters at the doorstep of your house!   

That is my first thought, I do agree with you.   They can comply with KYC and just refuse to do business with this individual not known to them, if thats the problem they raise.

Its basically nonsense, crypto used to be free of this red tape highjacking and now its become a travisty like the rest of every corporate enterprise that sits below government.

Its perfectly straightforward to reject a received value and return to sender.  Unless they absolutely know these funds are illegal and are certain to contact authorities to pass over funds.  If there was some strong suspicion or evidence, I can understand every business has an unstated purpose to stay legal and within the boundaries of the law of the country its situated in.   Thats not a point that needs to be argued, companies dont wish to put themselves at risk so its justified.

   To disappear with someone elses value indefinitely and benefit your own interests with this value, thats easily observable as corrupt and should not be allowed to pass without notice from the wider community.