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Topic: ChangeNow.io (Evercode Lab) - Scam. Illegally holding of 100 BCH (11 bitcoins). - page 24. (Read 34427 times)

full member
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If a person has nothing to fear he is not a fraud or a terrorist or drug dealer and so on, why not provide documents??I think that the exchanger has the right to require documents that would know who to return the money.This is my personal opinion, but I am sure that it is correct.
newbie
Activity: 84
Merit: 0
who spent his money to promote this on bitcointalk?
I mean seriously?
The money was spent on blackmail. It all started with the fact that ni23457 (the person who bought the advertisement here) sent someone else's documents from Google, when the exchange deemed his transaction suspicious. He did not get acquainted with the rules before.

I decided that it was just a formality. I took an image with someone's passport from google-images and sent them.

He recognizes this.

Agree, the exchange had the right to stop the transaction until the identity of his identity. But he does not want to do KYC, says that he is afraid of something. But why should he be afraid? He hides his identity, and now blackmailes changenow. He seeks to spoil  changenow reputation so that they return 100 BCH without KYC.

These actions are worthy of a fraudster!

If you're curious to find out how ni23457 is blackmailing changenow, read here It is interesting.
STT
legendary
Activity: 4060
Merit: 1448
Nothing wrong with contributing to the forum via advertising of course.   On KYC you probably need representation, my main objection to KYC currently is it is arbitary and uneven across the industry.
Its liable to profiteering and unilateral decisions by management.   If the deposits are held with a third party then we can suppose that a company is not to gain from its reference to KYC but I dont often hear of that being the case.

What I would like to see is raising the case for an industry wide standard or protocol for this KYC proceedure and then all exchanges can adhere to that code of conduct across the industry and to some extent self regulate itself from pop up exchanges which could possibly take advantage of indivuals.     In the past I've given in driving license details only to be told it wasnt enough and I must also prove place of birth and so on, but in most exchanges just proving who you are is enough but the company which refused then closed the site without notice or returning anyones funds.

  Another case where I started a thread on, the company gave less then a fortnight for people to present documents or to lose their tokens and they did not update their T&C to show this deadline.  They still mention the forfeit of tokens was a legal measure, which seems biased logic and not in line with proper regulatory oversight KYC purports to
member
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3. "I'm sorry I can not provide KYC" Why? Are you the first who must undergo this procedure?
I don't pretty much care about the other statements but this one. I agree he should have read the terms and conditions before signing up but he can completely choose not to share his documents if he finds the service providers are not operating legitimately. Why the exchange had to hide their identity in the first place?

Pretty much this. S/he reserves the right to send their ID or not. They are not compelled to, especially when the operators of the exchange strive to remain anonymous.
newbie
Activity: 8
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If you don't understand what you are doing in this thread and why the forum has this advertisement, I will clarify.

So, if ni23457 started saying that someone is buying someone, I will remind you that Mr. ni23457 has an army of bots in Reddit that spread false information.

https://www.reddit.com/u/andyrgreig
https://www.reddit.com/u/asherx
https://www.reddit.com/user/Bronnylee
https://www.reddit.com/u/dbroncoboy
https://www.reddit.com/u/gabyshinn
https://www.reddit.com/u/iseoranker
https://www.reddit.com/u/kanetreble
https://www.reddit.com/u/nekomisa
https://www.reddit.com/u/primeaudio
https://www.reddit.com/u/radakito
https://www.reddit.com/u/rashonski
https://www.reddit.com/u/redshreds
https://www.reddit.com/u/reppit
https://www.reddit.com/u/spagrspagr
https://www.reddit.com/u/yusuef

They write the same, only what that want ni23457. So he tries to force changenow to return him BTC without checking his identity. Is not this blackmail?

In addition, he bought advertising here on BCT. Guys, he does not warn us, he does it in order to spoil the reputation of the exchange. I advise everyone to thoroughly study this story. ni23457 had not just a mistake, sending someone else's documents. He did it consciously! He hides his identity. Why? Who is he afraid of? What he says = nonsense, he's another fraudster, laundering money.

Further Medium. Here are 4 people who write the same thing:

https://medium.com/@petitefemmeforte — petite nana
https://medium.com/@HallerManjbrian — stephen haller
https://medium.com/@paulmcglynn25 — Paul McGlynn
https://medium.com/@mananaduboi Manon Dubois

On BCT:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bitcoinewman-1246196 - bitcoinewman
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/norinma-2374957 - Norinma
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/veronicasmithen03-2352582 - veronicasmithen03
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/isintel-2376982 - isintel
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bazinga442-1246188 - Bazinga442

All of them blame ChangeNOW. Nothing else.

P.S. I once again claim that I am an outsider who has been jast following this story from the beginning. I believed ni23457, but then, when I saw his dirty attempts at blackmail, this man provoked evil in me. I decided to follow him, for his actions. I learned that he is from Russia. In that case, if he claims that it is illegal in this country, how could he buy BTC for cash? Let him tell us.

I am not his Bot neither affiliated to him. I came over this thread through Advertisement. This company looks shady to me because DNS analytics shows they running criminal operation with bulletproof hosting. I do not care about ni23457.


I am ex-Israel Intelligence officer and who you are? Bot of that company? Do your own research Slavic Kid.
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1317
Get your game girl
3. "I'm sorry I can not provide KYC" Why? Are you the first who must undergo this procedure?
I don't pretty much care about the other statements but this one. I agree he should have read the terms and conditions before signing up but he can completely choose not to share his documents if he finds the service providers are not operating legitimately. Why the exchange had to hide their identity in the first place?
member
Activity: 149
Merit: 25
President of FinTechAssociation
Amazing! People lost money and lost it again on promote Cheesy
Cool! We need more! Grin
copper member
Activity: 1876
Merit: 533
who spent his money to promote this on bitcointalk?
I mean seriously?
member
Activity: 392
Merit: 14
What a nonsense I read! Man, what are you trying to do, explain to us. This forum is not the place where you can blackmail those who caught you. Again:

1. You confused Changelly and ChangeNOW. Are you blind?
2. You sent someone else's documents. Why?
3. "I'm sorry I can not provide KYC" Why? Are you the first who must undergo this procedure?
4. You call them criminals because they caught you, discovering "a picture from Google". WTF!
5. "100 BCH was only the first small part" Show us the transaction.

Do you have any other facts?
Forget it, he has his reasons, don't have to go into it.
If he is willing to provide KYC, he has already done that, because for most people, even if it is for 1 BCH, will do it.
Therefore, I guess there are two possibilities. One possibility is that the identity of ni23457 is really special. He may not be a normal person.(Maybe a hacker?  Grin) It is not common to know that people who can take out 100BCH at will. Another possibility is this story is all his fictional.
From the perspective of sympathizing the weak, I am more willing to believe in the experience of Mr. ni23457.
newbie
Activity: 84
Merit: 0
What a nonsense I read! Man, what are you trying to do, explain to us. This forum is not the place where you can blackmail those who caught you. Again:

1. You confused Changelly and ChangeNOW. Are you blind?
2. You sent someone else's documents. Why?
3. "I'm sorry I can not provide KYC" Why? Are you the first who must undergo this procedure?
4. You call them criminals because they caught you, discovering "a picture from Google". WTF!
5. "100 BCH was only the first small part" Show us the transaction.

Do you have any other facts?
full member
Activity: 308
Merit: 100
"as they are engaged in illegal activities in their country"

This is a lie. Yet another lie from you.

Bitcoin is NOT illegal in Russia. I know this because I've discussed this question with lots of lawyers and as a result I'm paying taxes from my bitcoins in Russia now =)
copper member
Activity: 168
Merit: 77
I was attracted by your advertisement. that place usually shows various ICO-profit advertisements. You really have a good idea.
Let me see your unfortunate experience.But I am very surprised, why don't you provide your KYC? 100BCH This is a very large amount, even if you are adventurous to provide your real kyc.
I'm sorry but I can't provide KYC for people who do not have the right to demand any documents, as they are engaged in illegal activities in their country. They themselves know that they are criminals and that is why they fled from their office and changed their founders. Please read my topic carefully.


When you decide to put 100 BCH on the site, it means that you have put a massive trust on it.
If I were you, I will think twice before try to deposit or at least I can find their office in your place or your country.

Hope you will got your money back,amen.
As it was said above, 100  BCH was only the first small part. Also I confused them with Changelly.


newbie
Activity: 84
Merit: 0
If you don't understand what you are doing in this thread and why the forum has this advertisement, I will clarify.

So, if ni23457 started saying that someone is buying someone, I will remind you that Mr. ni23457 has an army of bots in Reddit that spread false information.

https://www.reddit.com/u/andyrgreig
https://www.reddit.com/u/asherx
https://www.reddit.com/user/Bronnylee
https://www.reddit.com/u/dbroncoboy
https://www.reddit.com/u/gabyshinn
https://www.reddit.com/u/iseoranker
https://www.reddit.com/u/kanetreble
https://www.reddit.com/u/nekomisa
https://www.reddit.com/u/primeaudio
https://www.reddit.com/u/radakito
https://www.reddit.com/u/rashonski
https://www.reddit.com/u/redshreds
https://www.reddit.com/u/spagrspagr
https://www.reddit.com/u/yusuef

They write the same, only what that want ni23457. So he tries to force changenow to return him BTC without checking his identity. Is not this blackmail?

In addition, he bought advertising here on BCT. Guys, he does not warn us, he does it in order to spoil the reputation of the exchange. I advise everyone to thoroughly study this story. ni23457 had not just a mistake, sending someone else's documents. He did it consciously! He hides his identity. Why? Who is he afraid of? What he says = nonsense, he's another fraudster, laundering money.

Further Medium. Here are 4 people who write the same thing:

https://medium.com/@petitefemmeforte — petite nana
https://medium.com/@HallerManjbrian — stephen haller
https://medium.com/@paulmcglynn25 — Paul McGlynn
https://medium.com/@mananaduboi Manon Dubois

On BCT:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bitcoinewman-1246196 - bitcoinewman
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/norinma-2374957 - Norinma
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/veronicasmithen03-2352582 - veronicasmithen03
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/isintel-2376982 - isintel
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bazinga442-1246188 - Bazinga442

All of them blame ChangeNOW. Nothing else.

P.S. I once again claim that I am an outsider who has been jast following this story from the beginning. I believed ni23457, but then, when I saw his dirty attempts at blackmail, this man provoked evil in me. I decided to follow him, for his actions. I learned that he is from Russia. In that case, if he claims that it is illegal in this country, how could he buy BTC for cash? Let him tell us.
full member
Activity: 308
Merit: 100
He can do it easily by passing AML/KYC procedure anytime but he is afraid to do that for some reason

I've successfully passed AML/KYC at Poloniex, Bittrex, Bitfinex, Bitstamp, Binance, Okex and never had any problems with that. I don't understand why it's such a big deal for the person with as he says honestly earned bitcoins.
legendary
Activity: 2030
Merit: 1028
When you decide to put 100 BCH on the site, it means that you have put a massive trust on it.
If I were you, I will think twice before try to deposit or at least I can find their office in your place or your country.

Hope you will got your money back,amen.
member
Activity: 392
Merit: 14
I was attracted by your advertisement. that place usually shows various ICO-profit advertisements. You really have a good idea.
Let me see your unfortunate experience.But I am very surprised, why don't you provide your KYC? 100BCH This is a very large amount, even if you are adventurous to provide your real kyc.
copper member
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
you scared the hell out of me with your advertisement.. Thought i was scammed with another project  Angry
newbie
Activity: 84
Merit: 0
It's amazing! A person caught in fraud (sending someone else's documents), instead of going through KYC and getting his BTC, spends money to spoil the reputation of ChangeNOW. This is blackmail!

P.S. I see that ni23457 created another alt - isintel. All his messages (2) only about ChangeNOW. Before that, there was Norinma and a few more. I think it's a dirty game, worthy of shit. I have been following this story for a long time, ni23457 buys Reddit votes http://archive.fo/iXMQm , buys articles in blogs, instead of settling the problem by contacting the exchange. Why does not he want to reveal his identity to us, does not show his BTC wallet? I'm sure this guy wanted to launder money, but he was caught.
newbie
Activity: 22
Merit: 0
This is nice story.  What happen next?


So you call them scam cause you wont to do Kyc for them?  and you put fake kyc?  .
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