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Quote from: Sanitough on November 16, 2024, 08:44:38 PM

Quote from: AliMan on November 16, 2024, 06:58:49 PM

When it comes to charity, it's a good advocate for those less fortunate individuals but through gambling? It's somehow a different story. Not all people have the same perspective, and it might lingers different opinions. However, the intention and goals is good but still it comes from gambling. Though there's no bad omen about getting funds generated from gambling, that always depend on a person who performs the actions behind that program.

People always have a choice, either they bet on a lottery and hope for a return or just donate directly to charitable institutions. But this seems more like a tradition now, especially since it’s not the only lottery with a charity purpose. Many countries have similar setups.

The key factor here is whether the country supports gambling or its teachings. And its no secret to all of us here that in some Muslim-majority countries, gambling is considered a sin, so even if it’s for a good cause, it’s still forbidden. That’s the big difference, it’s not just about purpose but also cultural and religious beliefs.

We can't stop that mindset of religious beliefs from other countries like those Muslim culture. If they'll not going to support gambling, then we'll have to respect that idea and everybody should avoid this for the sake of complying the principles. Those choices are dependent on how a specific individual would obtain self discipline towards gambling management as well as their financial status with respect to charity.

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Quote from: Jating on November 15, 2024, 04:55:41 PM

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yah, I’ve heard of charity gambling, and it’s an interesting concept. On one hand, it’s a creative way to raise funds for good causes and donations, especially when traditional fundraising methods might not be enough or having a hard time to raise funds. If people are already into gambling, it could be a win-win situation, raising money for charity while offering people the thrill of playing.

But I do get why some people are concerned, it's gambling and it can lead to danger like addiction and financial harm, and mixing that with charity might not sit well with everyone and it's very rare to see. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: bakasabo on November 17, 2024, 07:02:49 AM

I like the idea of charity gambling, but when it is performed by celebrities, influencers or famous people. The fact that anyone can join-in and gamble against them, would attract more funds than just a charity box somewhere, or a banner that calls to raise money for something. People consider that as an event where they can show themselves, meet others, make new friends or contacts, and in addition gamble and lose money for a good deed.

Well, that could be a good event for them. Aside that they can attract more celebrities to gamble, then the more losses they will incur, the bigger the proceeds for the charity for a cause. The advantage here is that they don’t care if they lose knowing they have a lot of money to spend, unlike with regular people trying to gamble, once they lose, they also turn out as the losers who also need charity as well.

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So the point is I think the method is a bit strange, but yes for the purpose, yes I support that, but if there is another way that makes more sense to be used as an intermediary for collecting funds, then I think it is much better than gambling.

maybe they think they can take some money from the bookies to donate. but it seems all that is in vain. because the bookies will not provide continuous wins. even the system they create is to bankrupt their players.

so I agree, rather than sharing the results of gambling winnings for charity, it is better to give their gambling capital to charity directly.

Yes, that's what I mean, my friend, we know what and how gambling really is, most people who make gambling a place to make money often experience the opposite, in the sense that the majority of them actually lose almost all their money slowly and maybe we also often hear many people, especially those here, who say that gambling should not be used as a place to make money, understand that gambling is nothing more than a playground in your spare time, like an entertainment event when you have boring free time and is not something that should be done seriously.

The reason is clear that all the gamblers' winnings have been arranged by the casino, the gamblers play on the casino's advantage, another thing that I also question is where will the group get the money for the gambling capital? I'm not sure that there are people or parties who really want to sacrifice their money to be used as capital for activities that run based on probability, and of course I also quite agree with what you said that it is much better to donate the capital directly without having to put it in gambling first.

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Quote from: bakasabo on November 17, 2024, 07:02:49 AM

I like the idea of charity gambling, but when it is performed by celebrities, influencers or famous people. The fact that anyone can join-in and gamble against them, would attract more funds than just a charity box somewhere, or a banner that calls to raise money for something. People consider that as an event where they can show themselves, meet others, make new friends or contacts, and in addition gamble and lose money for a good deed.

Very true. There is no obligation for the gamblers to feel bad whenever they lose this charity gambling that they're going to participate. And they will also feel that they're privileged to be part of it because the celebrities have endorsed it.

There's something that plays on the minds of the participants whenever the celebrities are involved and when it is managed by them. They might even want to lose more freely because they have a good purpose of it.

It won't be that much to think of if many casino does this as their marketing tactics.

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Quote from: Fredomago on November 17, 2024, 10:31:10 AM

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at first, they are just supporting the cause but sooner or later they are intending to play and win which mostly turned against them and lead them to lose a lot.

That's the reality, and even the cause is good but many of the winners will still get interested in gambling and if they aren't properly aware about gambling responsibility or about status of good casinos then they'll most probably end up losing money.

Exactly, they are not realizing that yet but the longer they stay the chance that they will lose a lot of money, it's simply and introduction to thier possible addiction, so better know what is the right position in terms of participating on such events, not bad in supporting some charities but understaniding the risk and have that clarity with your intentions.

Else, you'll end up suffering with huge loses with your finances and time, charity can be done correctly and accordingly better to find the right venue for dealing with it.

I think that for charity we need to find more reasonable and original ways than charity. For me, this is a mixture of two different worlds, which cause small contradictions in my brain. I would prefer to do these two events separately from each other, either go and gamble, or go and make a charitable contribution, but before that I will find out if these contributions are being collected by scammers. Perhaps for someone this will not be an obstacle, and he will make a deposit again and again, justifying himself that the money will go to charity, it seems to me that this is still not very reasonable.

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Quote from: SamReomo on November 17, 2024, 12:26:56 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on November 16, 2024, 12:49:05 PM

at first, they are just supporting the cause but sooner or later they are intending to play and win which mostly turned against them and lead them to lose a lot.

That's the reality, and even the cause is good but many of the winners will still get interested in gambling and if they aren't properly aware about gambling responsibility or about status of good casinos then they'll most probably end up losing money.

Exactly, they are not realizing that yet but the longer they stay the chance that they will lose a lot of money, it's simply and introduction to thier possible addiction, so better know what is the right position in terms of participating on such events, not bad in supporting some charities but understaniding the risk and have that clarity with your intentions.

Else, you'll end up suffering with huge loses with your finances and time, charity can be done correctly and accordingly better to find the right venue for dealing with it.

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Quote from: Jating on November 15, 2024, 04:55:41 PM

Have you heard of Charity gambling?

Its one of the easiest way to raise funds as long as the game is something anyone can play, even newbies like BINGO This is very popular charity game

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What's your thoughts on this? Is it a creative way to raise funds for a good cause? Or will it simply promote gambling?

Others might say that it conflict with charitable values as it linked to gambling-related harm. Have you been in one of this charity gambling in your locals?

Those who manage this event will not tell you that you need to be a gambler to be part of the game; as long as there is the willingness to participate, its all entertainment because you are not playing to win but to benefit the cause.

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To be honest if you want to do charity according to my personal view, it is better not to have to be from gambling profits, give the money available to do good deeds, when we have the thought of having to gamble first to double the money they have, if they don't get profit or even lose money, them not charity, which he should have been able to do charity even though with a small amount of money, of course this is contrary to common sense in general to classify such behavior, but that is not a problem if someone charity in a different way and they like the way, That is a good action even though we disagree with such behavior.

Agree with your opinion, when we want to do charity it is better to use money not from gambling because charity is a voluntary social activity and the results will be good for ourselves, while if we do charity using gambling results it is very bad especially if it is known by others then new unexpected problems will arise.
But on the other hand of course everyone has different views and mindsets regarding cases like this so there are still many pros and cons in it.

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Maybe that happen in the private casinos where in that place, many richer people gather and playing gambling while they can donates some money for people who needed. But I don't know for sure about that because I am not one of them so we can only believe that things is exist in some country.
Maybe that can applicable in the casinos but they must announce that before they open the games so their members will know that some of their profit will be distribute as a charity to people who needed. That will gives understanding to their members that while they are also donate some money which is taken from their winning or their bet.
That can promote the casino as one casino that use charity to attract more people to donate and gambling in the same time.

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Quote from: Jating on November 15, 2024, 04:55:41 PM

What's your thoughts on this? Is it a creative way to raise funds for a good cause? Or will it simply promote gambling?

Yes, I've heard of where the proceeds from gambling are donated as charity, of course not all regions approve of charity gambling, maybe some regions can accept it.

In my area, charity gambling is very contrary to the morals or customs that apply in my area, where people think that charity gambling does not educate the new generation on how to donate to charities, in fact it invites negative behavior for the new generation.

If they want to donate some of their money to charity, they should not have to gamble, they can just collect a little money to give to charity, without having to gamble.

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I have not heard of such activity in my country here but since it's a practice in other countries, I will give my opinion based on what I think.

Using gambling as a means to generate money for the charity purpose doesn't sound so comfortable with me.

Let's assume I have like $20 which I want to spend on gambling and I came across this charity gambling thing and I decided to gamble there to raise more money to offer the charity but at the end, I lost that money in that casinos, what sense does it make?

Would it not have been better if I just donate the $20 to the charity rather than losing it in a game of probability?

Or are they telling me that because it's a casinos for charity purpose, people are going to win more often than the regular casinos that causes more loss to player?

Honestly, I don't like the idea. If i want to give money to the charity home, I can give the amount I have and if they want to use it to gamble, it left for them and not me.

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Quote from: Jating on November 15, 2024, 04:55:41 PM

Have you heard of Charity gambling?

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Charity gambling is a "form of incentivized giving" where a charity (or a group of charities), rather than a municipality or private casino, oversees gambling activities such as bingo, roulette, lottery, and slot machines and uses the proceeds to further its charitable aims.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charity_gambling

What's your thoughts on this? Is it a creative way to raise funds for a good cause? Or will it simply promote gambling?

Others might say that it conflict with charitable values as it linked to gambling-related harm. Have you been in one of this charity gambling in your locals?

One example of this kind of charity gambling is the Dutch Postcode Lottery.

https://www.postcodelotterygroup.com/what-we-do/nationale-postcode-loterij/

To be honest if you want to do charity according to my personal view, it is better not to have to be from gambling profits, give the money available to do good deeds, when we have the thought of having to gamble first to double the money they have, if they don't get profit or even lose money, them not charity, which he should have been able to do charity even though with a small amount of money, of course this is contrary to common sense in general to classify such behavior, but that is not a problem if someone charity in a different way and they like the way, That is a good action even though we disagree with such behavior.

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Quote from: Jating on November 15, 2024, 04:55:41 PM

Have you heard of Charity gambling?

Have heard before and it becomes clearer when reading the article you mentioned.
Charity gambling looks good because we know almost everyone has gambled but of course it is prone to corruption when the business entity that runs it commits fraud.
Countries that have laws on charity gambling must be very strict in supervising parties who have permission to do this charity otherwise they can commit corruption and exploit people's hardship to raise more funds but the benefits provided are not in accordance with the rules that have been set.

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I like the idea of charity gambling, but when it is performed by celebrities, influencers or famous people. The fact that anyone can join-in and gamble against them, would attract more funds than just a charity box somewhere, or a banner that calls to raise money for something. People consider that as an event where they can show themselves, meet others, make new friends or contacts, and in addition gamble and lose money for a good deed.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on November 17, 2024, 12:47:00 AM

Charity organizations are often corrupt to the entire core. The intent is fine but using that intent to get money from people who are willing to donate their money is not correct.

So gambling just as a show to give the money, just adds in another unnecessary layer before donation. I guess the real motive is to get addicted rich gamblers to spend a fortune there and essentially rob their funds, although that sounds very wrong.

I would never donate to a charity, rather attempt to support a person in need directly with cash or kind.

Yes, it is a good decision and I think giving it directly is much better, because we can see it directly. Even though we have to donate to charity, we must first see whether the charity is very trustworthy or not, because there are so many irresponsible people who claim to be charities, but in reality it is for their own interests. And if it is associated with gambling, I also think this is not the best choice to make, I mean if you want to do good then there is a better way. I don't want to say this is bad because the intention is good, but among the many choices who prefer other choices.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on November 17, 2024, 12:47:00 AM

Charity organizations are often corrupt to the entire core. The intent is fine but using that intent to get money from people who are willing to donate their money is not correct.

So gambling just as a show to give the money, just adds in another unnecessary layer before donation. I guess the real motive is to get addicted rich gamblers to spend a fortune there and essentially rob their funds, although that sounds very wrong.

I would never donate to a charity, rather attempt to support a person in need directly with cash or kind.

My thoughts are exactly the same as yours, so I will never donate unless I am convinced and check all the fine points of what exactly and how the money is collected, as well as how many layers it has between me and the final recipient. If there is an opportunity, I would rather go myself and hand over the necessary amount to the person who needs it, this is the best solution, but it is a pity that this can be done very rarely and basically many are out of our reach or it requires too much effort and expense to do it.

I have heard many times how people are deceived in this way, and what I know for sure is that I do not want to reward scammers who the next day will come up with a new story in order to get money under the guise of a pitiful story.

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Quote from: AliMan on November 16, 2024, 06:58:49 PM

When it comes to charity, it's a good advocate for those less fortunate individuals but through gambling? It's somehow a different story. Not all people have the same perspective, and it might lingers different opinions. However, the intention and goals is good but still it comes from gambling. Though there's no bad omen about getting funds generated from gambling, that always depend on a person who performs the actions behind that program.

We all know gambling can easily attract people and put on their bets most especially if it comes with varieties of games, plus bonuses that will draw more people into gambling. That’s probably the reason why gambling for a charity cause exists in the market. The point here is whether you win or lose, you end up helping less fortunate people and lessen their life’s struggles.

Furthermore, since the people around particularly those gamblers are fully supportive about this, it’s not surprising why this kind of activity succeed in the market. The key here is you just have to gamble responsibly, bet on what you can afford to lose so you won’t go home with an empty pocket.

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Quote from: Zadicar on November 16, 2024, 04:48:25 PM

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I'm confused to say that this is a good thing or a bad thing Cheesy

On the one hand, we know that in the end charity is a very positive step and it is clearly a good action because there will definitely be many people who are helped by the Charity that is done but in the end when this is associated with gambling, the good intentions of Charity are actually not in line with the steps to raise funds that are taken for me.
Gambling is still gambling even though in some countries it is still legal but in reality there are still many pros and cons in terms of gambling, especially this also seems to accommodate players to become addicted to gambling for good reasons, namely Charity.
Indirectly this reminds me of the Robinhood story even though the intentions are good but the method is still not right for me.

Same here in our country on which we do have that sweepstakes on which this is really that being tied up into a charity on which it is really indeed a good gesture or something that really talks about having that help into poor people for whatever those bettors on lotteries will really be making into or some sort of indirect way on paying up some taxes and having that catch on trying out to win up something that could changed up their entire lives. The main issue on here is that people or the citizens do really have some doubt on the fairness on how they do took up those draws on which they are really that believing that the ones who do win up those jackpots are into those who are that their own employees and this had become a known issue for most people. It is really that indeed that not proven out but if the people do have those kind of
assumptions then this could really be that true.

A fact that cannot be forgotten in this case is the gambling that is done. Charity is indeed a good step to take because after all if Charity is done correctly then we certainly know that there are many benefits in it.

But doing this and juxtaposing it with gambling even though the intention is good but in the end I think there will definitely be a lot of pros and cons in this case.
Some will be supporters because indeed their focus is on the Charity but of course there will be many who oppose this too because especially for now gambling is still synonymous with negativity among people today even in some countries gambling directly and shown to the public is a taboo.

So in the end in this case I think it will be a little difficult when saying that this is a positive or negative thing because everyone has their own perspective on this.

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Quote from: Fredomago on November 16, 2024, 12:49:05 PM

at first, they are just supporting the cause but sooner or later they are intending to play and win which mostly turned against them and lead them to lose a lot.

That's the reality, and even the cause is good but many of the winners will still get interested in gambling and if they aren't properly aware about gambling responsibility or about status of good casinos then they'll most probably end up losing money.

There are lots of stories which those lottery winners do end up on becoming a poor once again or after they have spend out their winnings back again into lottery or gambling or any other things.
They will really be just that making those kind of realizations on the time or moment that they will really be experiencing tough situations and not on the moment or time that they will really be still having the money.
They do really that become that too confident that they have tons of money and spending up like a mad man until they would be losing it all and on the moment that they've seen their money is already that
low or few then this is where they would be starting to panic and making out those tracing on where those funds or winnings go. It is really just that waste of opportunity with these winners that having this kind of mentality.

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