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There’s nothing really new about this type of gambling since it’s essentially a lottery game, and we even have our own version run by the state... I don’t see anything wrong with it as it’s not the addictive kind of gambling. Lotteries are more about betting small and dreaming big, hoping to win millions.

For countries like the one mentioned in the OP, where the economy is stable, people are more willing to spend a little for a chance at the jackpot, especially if the lottery serves a good purpose. This Dutch Postcode Lottery is operated by the Postcode Lottery Group, a private entity in the Netherlands. Maybe their country doesn’t have a state-sponsored lottery, unlike here in the Philippines, where we have the PCSO, though it’s been involved in controversies recently.

And this really raises doubts about the credibility of the lottery. Good thing I still remember my previous post about this.
check this thread.

Quote from: freedomgo on January 18, 2024, 03:46:59 AM

This picture below with the woman holding a check is the winner of "P43 million lotto 6/42 jackpot prize on Wednesday, Jan. 17.".

That's almost $800k if converted in USD.

As we can see in the picture, it appears to be just an edited version, casting doubt on whether there was a genuine winner or if corrupt officials inside are attempting to claim the victory using that picture as evidence.

What's your thought about that picture, is it real or edicted?

How about in your area? How reputable are your state-sponsored casinos?

Source : https://twitter.com/inquirerdotnet/status/1747758509381574663/photo/1

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Quote from: Gozie51 on November 16, 2024, 06:00:59 AM

I tend to have the same view with you. Charity should not be seen as something that has to be attached with business and profit oriented, rather it should be something done out of people's volition and freewill and that is why for a long time, it has been on the exclusive reserve of NGOS and not what has to be staked upon.

If gambling is introduced to charity then explicit corruption will envelope the idea of charity. Gambling and charity for me doesn't look like a parallel line but parts afar from each other. Although it is an initiative but charity should not encourage gambling as gambling is about winning and losing.

I understand your point; however, I don't know if I'm seeing it wrong, but I see it as a donation; similarly to regular donations, it's just a way to attract more users/donators. Maybe I'm wrong, but I understand both points; I don't believe there's a yes or no answer to OP's question. I believe that corruption and gambling already go hand in hand; look at fixed matches, for example; perhaps its introduction in charity events isn't ideal, but I'm trying to see the more positive side of what they can actually offer to those in need.

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Quote from: Jating on November 15, 2024, 04:55:41 PM

Have you heard of Charity gambling?

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Charity gambling is a "form of incentivized giving" where a charity (or a group of charities), rather than a municipality or private casino, oversees gambling activities such as bingo, roulette, lottery, and slot machines and uses the proceeds to further its charitable aims.

What's your thoughts on this? Is it a creative way to raise funds for a good cause? Or will it simply promote gambling?

Bingo charity is a very popular charity gambling here in our country. Even our local government is promoting it, Bingo is both entertainment and a form of gambling. I have already participated in many charity bingo events, and the atmosphere is very different when its about charity. People are interested in playing to contribute, and its just an added bonus for them if they win the major prize.
Charitable gambling is good depending on the kind of games and what institution or cause will benefit.

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Whatever the terms we want to call it to justify their actions, gambling is still gambling. And one way or the other they are promoting gambling. My question is how do they get the capital used for gambling and how often do they win to keep the organization running smoothly? I remember last year that there were a lot of rumors about these nonprofit organizations being scams.

Quote from: danherbias07 on November 16, 2024, 05:24:57 AM

Still, I don't like the idea that the charity will start advertising gambling because they need players to start their activity. I think that is why I have mixed feelings about it.

They can't stop advertising gambling because that is where they get their money to support the Charity. Another thing is that they get sponsored by some gambling platforms to advertise for them. At least the good thing is that there is a good way to use gambling wins, rather than spending it on drinking and smoking or chasing prostitutes.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on November 16, 2024, 05:24:57 AM

Online gambling or others had become a profitable business now and if a big part of it will be used for something good then I think there's no harm in it.
Still, I don't like the idea that the charity will start advertising gambling because they need players to start their activity. I think that is why I have mixed feelings about it.

I tend to have the same view with you. Charity should not be seen as something that has to be attached with business and profit oriented, rather it should be something done out of people's volition and freewill and that is why for a long time, it has been on the exclusive reserve of NGOS and not what has to be staked upon.

If gambling is introduced to charity then explicit corruption will envelope the idea of charity. Gambling and charity for me doesn't look like a parallel line but parts afar from each other. Although it is an initiative but charity should not encourage gambling as gambling is about winning and losing.

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I have mixed thoughts about this.

We know gambling has been growing especially now and many gamblers seem to be enjoying it like a normal game although the risk involved is high. It has become a normal thing to do now and inserting charity might be a good idea. Online gambling or others had become a profitable business now and if a big part of it will be used for something good then I think there's no harm in it.
Still, I don't like the idea that the charity will start advertising gambling because they need players to start their activity. I think that is why I have mixed feelings about it.

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That's can be achieved in a country where gambling is legal and majority of the citizen aren't Muslim, as long as the mission is good and they can be transparent, there's no problem with that.

Quote from: Smartprofit on November 16, 2024, 04:35:55 AM

However, I like to help people personally, for example, I give to the poor when I visit churches (this is an ancient Christian tradition). I believe that helping those in need brings good luck. In addition, such actions make the world a better place.

At the same time, I am wary of centralized charity. I have no way to check whether the money collected in this way is used for its intended purpose.

Did you mean tithe? 10% from your monthly income? how you can know that you give to the poor since the church is actually the one who distribute the money. It's nothing different like trusting your money with centralized charity, they will give the proof that they've sent the money, but after all we can't verify it.

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Quote from: Jating on November 15, 2024, 04:55:41 PM

Have you heard of Charity gambling?

If you ask the people in the PH, the answer will be a resounding YES, and take note, it is run by the government.
The intention is good, but because of the volume of money that's coming in and out every single day, officials are becoming more and more greedy.
The benefits they disbursed to their recipients are just a very few percentage of the money they earn from the bettors everyday. So, I don't think these charity gambling are solely aiming to help people, I think it's just the second intention next to earning easy money.

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Quote from: Julien_Olynpic on November 16, 2024, 12:58:50 AM

Mostly, gambling for charitable purposes takes the form of a lottery. These are the most common charitable gambling.

Yes, indeed, and I don't think it's a bad thing, as it's not a type of gambling that usually leads to problems. In fact, I don't know anyone who has had problems buying lottery tickets, or who buys too much compulsively, as happens with other types of gambling. In fact, when we talk about gambling here in the forum we don't usually include lottery in the games we are thinking about, although technically speaking it is a type of gambling.

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on November 16, 2024, 02:12:23 AM

Quote from: Ambatman on November 15, 2024, 05:19:04 PM

Instead of gambling why not directly donate to the charity
This would be better and reduces cost of setting up the gambling platform.

I can't agree less with you on that – instead of gambling, why not directly donate it. Like you said earlier, gambling is gambling. In fact, there will be those who support charitable and philanthropic works but will find it difficult supporting this because of the gambling angle to it. Again, this will expose more people from a given community to gambling once they know it's for charity without taking into cognizance the addiction it can cause them, especially for those who will be gambling for the first time. I like things to be distinct and not being laced with a mixture such as we've it in this thread. The idea of gambling to raise money should be separated from charity. Maybe they should have an auction instead.

Because that's the whole team of this charity, others might perceived it as gambling, for example, you want to donate but you can't just go to the charity institutions and say give them $1.00 as donation. And that's why it is set to have like lottery that you can buy multiple tickets.

And there is this element of entertainment and fun at the same time. Just like the link posted by the OP, everyone seems to be very happy with their donations and they know that someone is going to win within their locality or neighborhood.

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Quote from: Jating on November 15, 2024, 04:55:41 PM

Have you heard of Charity gambling?

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Charity gambling is a "form of incentivized giving" where a charity (or a group of charities), rather than a municipality or private casino, oversees gambling activities such as bingo, roulette, lottery, and slot machines and uses the proceeds to further its charitable aims.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charity_gambling

What's your thoughts on this? Is it a creative way to raise funds for a good cause? Or will it simply promote gambling?

Others might say that it conflict with charitable values as it linked to gambling-related harm. Have you been in one of this charity gambling in your locals?

One example of this kind of charity gambling is the Dutch Postcode Lottery.

https://www.postcodelotterygroup.com/what-we-do/nationale-postcode-loterij/

A spade is a spade no matter the form it comes on. Gambling is gambling no matter the purpose. As much as it serves it purposes by which it was created. It also serves as a disadvantage to those who come hoping to make money from it.

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Yes, I played in a charity lottery. I bought one lottery ticket, but I didn’t win anything. I have mixed feelings about charity based on gambling. I think that people who find themselves in difficult situations need help.

However, I like to help people personally, for example, I give to the poor when I visit churches (this is an ancient Christian tradition). I believe that helping those in need brings good luck. In addition, such actions make the world a better place.

At the same time, I am wary of centralized charity. I have no way to check whether the money collected in this way is used for its intended purpose.

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Quote from: Jating on November 15, 2024, 04:55:41 PM

Have you heard of Charity gambling?

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Charity gambling is a "form of incentivized giving" where a charity (or a group of charities), rather than a municipality or private casino, oversees gambling activities such as bingo, roulette, lottery, and slot machines and uses the proceeds to further its charitable aims.

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This still considered as gambling because players are still in a form of wagering an amount of money, and for sure not all of their earnings are into the charity they need to make sustain of their casino, so to make it happen they need to have tons of players to play, and the charity is just part of their possible advocacy like the other business and establishment, afaik if not mistaken there's a legal thing that they can lessen the tax of the casino if they are offering this kind of movement, so possible its part of it.

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I never heard about that because gambling is gambling and not charity to gives your money to the casino. But if that is exist in some countries, maybe they use gambling to raise funds for a good cause and also promoting gambling in their place at the same time. But they must know what will be the impact for their people. If there is a rewards for them to wins the money, they will keeps doing that. They will hopes that they can wins and get the money.

But if no rewards for those who place a bet, maybe not many people will interest. That will depends on how people react with that but the government must be aware because that can turn to be gambling for their people if they can not realizes that they raise funds for a good cause.

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on November 16, 2024, 02:08:45 AM

Quote from: Ambatman on November 15, 2024, 05:19:04 PM

I know we say intent counts but Gambling is Gambling.
Even if it's for Good cause it doesn't negate the risk of gambling addictions.
Instead of gambling why not directly donate to the charity
This would be better and reduces cost of setting up the gambling platform.

Nope never heard of it, but the name doesn't really change much to me.

As I understand it, participation in such a lottery requires only the purchase of a ticket. I do not see anything objectionable in such a lottery; on the contrary, I would gladly take part in it; moreover, I would probably buy more tickets. Comparing the lottery with gambling in this case is wrong. Naturally, there will be winners, but there will also be a planned charity fund. This is very motivating. People who do not win, in any case, realize that they spent their money not in vain, as happens in gambling. And how gambling addiction can develop here is very difficult for me to imagine.

like I added never really heard of it and didn't see it from that angle
In summary is donating in a 'funlier' way and could be considered a game and the goal isn't to win but to donate.
But still it's called charity gambling so there definitely would be risk of a Gambling addiction though maybe in a lower end.

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This is the first time I'm hearing about this; this proves that gambling in a controlled environment can be beneficial for the community as well. It is often portrayed as something negative because people often think of addicts when we're talking about it. It's an effective way to raise awareness and money for charity causes while also displaying that gambling can also have a positive side. I noticed some users were talking about the risk of gambling addiction, something with which I don't necessarily agree. Someone participating in this event doesn't have the incentive of money; thus, I'm having a hard time believing that you can end up addicted through it. I'm not quite sure if we're generally taking, meaning that it could introduce gambling to someone who was previously not into it.

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on November 16, 2024, 02:12:23 AM

Quote from: Ambatman on November 15, 2024, 05:19:04 PM

Instead of gambling why not directly donate to the charity
This would be better and reduces cost of setting up the gambling platform.

I can't agree less with you on that – instead of gambling, why not directly donate it. Like you said earlier, gambling is gambling. In fact, there will be those who support charitable and philanthropic works but will find it difficult supporting this because of the gambling angle to it. Again, this will expose more people from a given community to gambling once they know it's for charity without taking into cognizance the addiction it can cause them, especially for those who will be gambling for the first time. I like things to be distinct and not being laced with a mixture such as we've it in this thread. The idea of gambling to raise money should be separated from charity. Maybe they should have an auction instead.

You say this because you will never donate money, no matter how "right" you may seem now, unfortunately. Imagine: one big prize is being raffled off, and one person will win it—well, at worst several people—and all the rest of the money will not be spent in vain. Do you get it? Any normal person understands perfectly well that only one person can win, and most likely it will not be him. That is, he deliberately gives his money for good. When gambling, a person is driven by self-interest. And it is precisely such players who will never give money just like that. No matter how much they talk about how charity is good.
Only a few win the lottery, and even these few can then donate their prize to a fund. There can be no dependence here, but if people are drawn to do good at least under such conditions, then the world will become a better place. Ask yourself how you would prefer to feel as someone who helped someone today by losing their few bucks. Or those who wanted to make money and wasted that money in vain?

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Quote from: Ambatman on November 15, 2024, 05:19:04 PM

Instead of gambling why not directly donate to the charity
This would be better and reduces cost of setting up the gambling platform.

I can't agree less with you on that – instead of gambling, why not directly donate it. Like you said earlier, gambling is gambling. In fact, there will be those who support charitable and philanthropic works but will find it difficult supporting this because of the gambling angle to it. Again, this will expose more people from a given community to gambling once they know it's for charity without taking into cognizance the addiction it can cause them, especially for those who will be gambling for the first time. I like things to be distinct and not being laced with a mixture such as we've it in this thread. The idea of gambling to raise money should be separated from charity. Maybe they should have an auction instead.

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Quote from: Ambatman on November 15, 2024, 05:19:04 PM

I know we say intent counts but Gambling is Gambling.
Even if it's for Good cause it doesn't negate the risk of gambling addictions.
Instead of gambling why not directly donate to the charity
This would be better and reduces cost of setting up the gambling platform.

Nope never heard of it, but the name doesn't really change much to me.

As I understand it, participation in such a lottery requires only the purchase of a ticket. I do not see anything objectionable in such a lottery; on the contrary, I would gladly take part in it; moreover, I would probably buy more tickets. Comparing the lottery with gambling in this case is wrong. Naturally, there will be winners, but there will also be a planned charity fund. This is very motivating. People who do not win, in any case, realize that they spent their money not in vain, as happens in gambling. And how gambling addiction can develop here is very difficult for me to imagine.

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I'm hearing about this charitable gambling for the first time and I doubt that such exists in my country. Anyway people have different intentions for gambling, it could be for fun, to make money or as it is in this case for charitable purposes, regardless of the reasons for gambling it still carries the same risks. I believe that if someone can get addicted by gambling for fun or to make money, the person can as well become addicted because of his or her passion to raise money for the charity. Whatever reasons that a person has for gambling, it's important to practice responsible gambling.

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