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legendary
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December 03, 2014, 08:27:52 PM

The oil is market priced. The OPEC cartel can do nothing, they have competition from the inside and the outside. Every member (and outsider) always wants the others to reduce production. "They sell less, we sell more to higher prices". Who wouldn't want that? Their significance for pricing is exaggerated. Typical main stream media journalist nonsense.

The reason for the oil price turbulence is over-investment due to artificial low interest rate. Oil is special because it is both a raw material with a production process that runs over decennia until the finished product reaches the consumer, and in addition it is capital intensive. The interest rate means a lot for oil. It would be easy to get it wrong also under sound money and free market interest rate, under current conditions there just have to be over-investment.

Oil producing governments around the world will probably counter that with even lower interest rate and intensified investment (to keep the serfs happy with jobs and trickle down effects on the rest of the folks in the land). Additionally, they are slow to change course. Governments own the oil fields and the largest oil companies nowadays. Therefore, over investment will continue for some time, and we will see even lower oil prices.



The OPEC cartel was the reason for the oil shock which hit the world economy in 1973 (and later in 1979). Crude oil was trading at less than $3 prior to this and nobody could believe that prices could increase so rapidly in such a short time period.
legendary
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December 03, 2014, 05:55:55 AM
hi .. .Roll Eyes

China will become super power in few years !! sure

First reason is that they are creating everything expect only one thing .. .and the thing is Medical products .. not medical instruments ...

but they are working on them too they will manufacture them too .. !!

and GuyZZZ ? you know ? why china is not raising there currency price ? ? ?  Think .. !! will reveal.

I think China is there already

I agree
member
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ngo kiem tuan
December 03, 2014, 04:34:58 AM
Wow you truly understand nothing about global economics
Is this true? You have any numbers?
sr. member
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December 03, 2014, 03:25:22 AM
hi .. .Roll Eyes

China will become super power in few years !! sure

First reason is that they are creating everything expect only one thing .. .and the thing is Medical products .. not medical instruments ...

but they are working on them too they will manufacture them too .. !!

and GuyZZZ ? you know ? why china is not raising there currency price ? ? ?  Think .. !! will reveal.

I think China is there already
sr. member
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December 02, 2014, 08:33:28 PM
It's inevitable! They have enough labor force, producing cheap and merchandising cheap. They have everything to be Super Power!
legendary
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December 02, 2014, 06:41:46 PM
What's for sure is that their growth rate is slowing down. The increase rate of the population is also declining and if things keep being like that India is going to become more populated than China in a decade or sooner.  The decline of China's growth rate is also affecting the rest of the world, have a look at oil prices.
the oil price has been manipulated by OPEC and others just to screw the Russian's and start WW3

The oil is market priced. The OPEC cartel can do nothing, they have competition from the inside and the outside. Every member (and outsider) always wants the others to reduce production. "They sell less, we sell more to higher prices". Who wouldn't want that? Their significance for pricing is exaggerated. Typical main stream media journalist nonsense.

The reason for the oil price turbulence is over-investment due to artificial low interest rate. Oil is special because it is both a raw material with a production process that runs over decennia until the finished product reaches the consumer, and in addition it is capital intensive. The interest rate means a lot for oil. It would be easy to get it wrong also under sound money and free market interest rate, under current conditions there just have to be over-investment.

Oil producing governments around the world will probably counter that with even lower interest rate and intensified investment (to keep the serfs happy with jobs and trickle down effects on the rest of the folks in the land). Additionally, they are slow to change course. Governments own the oil fields and the largest oil companies nowadays. Therefore, over investment will continue for some time, and we will see even lower oil prices.

sr. member
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December 02, 2014, 04:19:36 PM
What's for sure is that their growth rate is slowing down. The increase rate of the population is also declining and if things keep being like that India is going to become more populated than China in a decade or sooner.  The decline of China's growth rate is also affecting the rest of the world, have a look at oil prices.
the oil price has been manipulated by OPEC and others just to screw the Russian's and start WW3
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December 02, 2014, 04:04:32 PM
im agree china will be powerful, will see in 5-10 years again.
legendary
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December 02, 2014, 09:54:20 AM
What's for sure is that their growth rate is slowing down. The increase rate of the population is also declining and if things keep being like that India is going to become more populated than China in a decade or sooner.  The decline of China's growth rate is also affecting the rest of the world, have a look at oil prices.
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December 02, 2014, 09:51:40 AM
Whether they are No 1 or No 2 in terms of size of economy, or foreign reserves, strength of their military, right now they are already at the level you call superpower. Question is which spot is it be as different metrics of measurement might suggest otherwise.
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December 02, 2014, 09:33:38 AM
I think china will become super power ?
First of all their product is already worldwide
Second, their military is strong enough to defend themselves good

We just have to wait for china become super power

It`s already a super power SIR


super power but most of their citizens are poor and starving.

But i gave them credit that all of em are hard working
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December 02, 2014, 09:25:54 AM
I think china will become super power ?
First of all their product is already worldwide
Second, their military is strong enough to defend themselves good

We just have to wait for china become super power

It`s already a super power SIR


super power but most of their citizens are poor and starving.
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December 02, 2014, 04:44:54 AM
I think china will become super power ?
First of all their product is already worldwide
Second, their military is strong enough to defend themselves good

We just have to wait for china become super power

It`s already a super power SIR
legendary
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December 01, 2014, 09:39:00 PM
China is done. Fake numbers all over, massive erroneus investments, massive debt and money printing. The saving population is going to be fucked from behind. Hard landing. The country is going to be totally parked. Super power - not.

We'll see, I think asia will have a great rise in the coming decades. Im still not ready to drop on the dollar supermacy trust tho.

They are not alone in their misery, so others can implode first. Even if I am right, I can not count on others to agree, so I can't cash in bitcointalk points after the fact.
 
hero member
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December 01, 2014, 08:14:12 PM
China is done. Fake numbers all over, massive erroneus investments, massive debt and money printing. The saving population is going to be fucked from behind. Hard landing. The country is going to be totally parked. Super power - not.

We'll see, I think asia will have a great rise in the coming decades. Im still not ready to drop on the dollar supermacy trust tho.
legendary
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November 30, 2014, 08:35:18 PM
China is done. Fake numbers all over, massive erroneus investments, massive debt and money printing. The saving population is going to be fucked from behind. Hard landing. The country is going to be totally parked. Super power - not.
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November 29, 2014, 03:36:55 PM
Well if you talk to the people in the inner circle, they reckon China is already a Super Power. It owns loads of businesses around the world, and they have their hands on some of the best resources this world has to offer.

My blood runs cold just thinking about the prospect of a 3rd World War, when these super powers start to bump heads.  Sad
China is generally considered a "super power" by much of the world. Their military could likely defeat most other militaries and can defend themselves from most other countries.

I don't think we will ever see any kind of world war that we saw in WW1 or WW2 as major countries are much less likely to fight against eachother directly because of the prospect of nuclear war. We will see more proxy wars
legendary
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November 28, 2014, 01:44:39 PM
Well if you talk to the people in the inner circle, they reckon China is already a Super Power. It owns loads of businesses around the world, and they have their hands on some of the best resources this world has to offer.

My blood runs cold just thinking about the prospect of a 3rd World War, when these super powers start to bump heads.  Sad
hero member
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November 28, 2014, 11:02:42 AM
think china have become super power already.

Maybe not...but almost. China has a big potential to become a super power.
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November 28, 2014, 10:01:28 AM
think china have become super power already.

It is not military super power.

The higher GDP comes with a price. If you include the cost to clean up the pollution, the effective (beneficial) GDP is actually lower. People's quality of life is endangered by the contamination.
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