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Quote from: Moloch on April 13, 2016, 04:54:04 PM

Quote from: DrTeddus on April 13, 2016, 03:30:42 PM

Religion is meant for the 'weak', and yet, atheist are equally as close-minded as religious people. Saying something unknown doesn't exist for sure is just as dumb as saying it does without any foundation. People who denied the existence of an american continent were equally as close-minded as those who believed the other extreme.
Agnosticism allows to say 'I don't know' in order to build a bi-optional foundation. Let's find out without any bias, and let faith help those who need it.
Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mAtjs-JAtE

Atheism does not mean a person knows for certain there is no God

Atheism is simply a rejection of any (or all) specific Gods...

Christians say their God exists... I don't believe them... I'm an Atheist... same goes for Hindu, Muslim, etc... I don't believe any of them

To compare it to a courtroom... Atheism would be finding the defense, "not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt" (you have not proven God exists)... which is different from "innocent" (God does not exist)

Atheism is a statement about belief, and Agnostic is a statement about knowledge... the two are not mutually exclusive... (you can be an Agnostic Atheist, or a Gnostic Atheist... just like you can be a Gnostic or Agnostic Christian)

Also, nobody knows for certain (everyone is an agnostic)... anyone who claims to know for certain is a liar or a fool

"Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.[1][2] In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities." -Wikipedia
You might be right though Shocked

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At least I can see your point

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Quote from: Moloch on April 13, 2016, 05:15:44 PM

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Quote from: Moloch on April 13, 2016, 04:59:55 PM

Forget modern medicine. Modern medicine is turning out to be the scourge of the planet - http://naturalnews.com/. Christianity and most other religions are helpful of people in need, just like doctors and nurses. Christianity does it better by invoking the help of God, and when they attempt to get rid of the medical scourge.

If your child ever gets sick... please pray for it instead of taking it to get evil medicine

I pray for them all the time. They essentially don't get sick. Cool

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Quote from: BADecker on April 13, 2016, 05:07:16 PM

Quote from: Moloch on April 13, 2016, 04:59:55 PM

Forget modern medicine. Modern medicine is turning out to be the scourge of the planet - http://naturalnews.com/. Christianity and most other religions are helpful of people in need, just like doctors and nurses. Christianity does it better by invoking the help of God, and when they attempt to get rid of the medical scourge.

If your child ever gets sick... please pray for it instead of taking it to get evil medicine

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Quote from: Moloch on April 13, 2016, 04:59:55 PM

Forget modern medicine. Modern medicine is turning out to be the scourge of the planet - http://naturalnews.com/. Christianity and most other religions are helpful of people in need, just like doctors and nurses. Christianity does it better by invoking the help of God, and when they attempt to get rid of the medical scourge.

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Quote from: DrTeddus on April 13, 2016, 03:30:42 PM

Religion is meant for the 'weak', and yet, atheist are equally as close-minded as religious people. Saying something unknown doesn't exist for sure is just as dumb as saying it does without any foundation. People who denied the existence of an american continent were equally as close-minded as those who believed the other extreme.
Agnosticism allows to say 'I don't know' in order to build a bi-optional foundation. Let's find out without any bias, and let faith help those who need it.
Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mAtjs-JAtE

Atheism does not mean a person knows for certain there is no God

Atheism is simply a rejection of any (or all) specific Gods...

Christians say their God exists... I don't believe them... I'm an Atheist... same goes for Hindu, Muslim, etc... I don't believe any of them

To compare it to a courtroom... Atheism would be finding the defense, "not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt" (you have not proven God exists)... which is different from "innocent" (God does not exist)

Atheism is a statement about belief, and Agnostic is a statement about knowledge... the two are not mutually exclusive... (you can be an Agnostic Atheist, or a Gnostic Atheist... just like you can be a Gnostic or Agnostic Christian)

Also, nobody knows for certain (everyone is an agnostic)... anyone who claims to know for certain is a liar or a fool

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Quote from: DrTeddus on April 13, 2016, 03:30:42 PM

Religion is meant for the 'weak', and yet, atheist are equally as close-minded as religious people. Saying something unknown doesn't exist for sure is just as dumb as saying it does without any foundation. People who denied the existence of an american continent were equally as close-minded as those who believed the other extreme.
Agnosticism allows to say 'I don't know' in order to build a bi-optional foundation. Let's find out without any bias, and let faith help those who need it.
Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mAtjs-JAtE

We would love to find out. But we are so weak that we can barely search. It will take us forever through searching. Rather, lets do the religion thing.

What is the religion thing? Look at the facts. Then base the our religion on the things that the facts tell us.

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Religion is meant for the 'weak', and yet, atheist are equally as close-minded as religious people. Saying something unknown doesn't exist for sure is just as dumb as saying it does without any foundation. People who denied the existence of an american continent were equally as close-minded as those who believed the other extreme.
Agnosticism allows to say 'I don't know' in order to build a bi-optional foundation. Let's find out without any bias, and let faith help those who need it.
Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mAtjs-JAtE

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Quote from: RJX on April 13, 2016, 11:57:51 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 13, 2016, 11:08:50 AM

You have been to the other side and back? You know this?

Would you accept a, more or less, affirmative answer to your question?

Quote from: BADecker on April 13, 2016, 11:08:50 AM

There are two flocks. One flock is destined for eternal life in the hereafter. The other flock is destined for eternal damnation in the hereafter.

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If that is true, what's the difference between this lifetime and the hereafter?

Death here. Next life no more death for the living. Continual death for the dying.

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Quote from: BADecker on April 13, 2016, 11:08:50 AM

You have been to the other side and back? You know this?

Would you accept a, more or less, affirmative answer to your question?

Quote from: BADecker on April 13, 2016, 11:08:50 AM

There are two flocks. One flock is destined for eternal life in the hereafter. The other flock is destined for eternal damnation in the hereafter.

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If that is true, what's the difference between this lifetime and the hereafter?

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Quote from: BADecker on April 13, 2016, 11:05:22 AM

The problem with this thinking is that it will not work. Nice idea. But it doesn't work.

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Why not?

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Quote from: RJX on April 13, 2016, 10:22:42 AM

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Quote from: jonatuzc on April 13, 2016, 09:56:02 AM

Please We need peace in the world and not fights

That's the trick, isn't it?

If the other guy doesn't want peace, and shows it by his actions against you, how do you live peacefully? You can roll over and die. But that isn't living.

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If you die, you die. If you're done here you'll evolve into something grander.

You have been to the other side and back? You know this?

Quote from: RJX on April 13, 2016, 10:22:42 AM

To attack or to defend are all part of the play you're in, in this lifetime. Mutual respect should prevent others from taking your life. As long as that is not the case then there is a chance you'll die, goes for the other guy as well.

There is more between living on your knees and dying on your feet. We're simply not there yet and fear is powerful instrument to keep anyone from rising above the flock.

There are two flocks. One flock is destined for eternal life in the hereafter. The other flock is destined for eternal damnation in the hereafter.

Cool

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Quote from: RJX on April 13, 2016, 10:18:08 AM

Quote from: jonatuzc on April 13, 2016, 09:56:02 AM

Please We need peace in the world and not fights

And there's the whole truth. Who cares what you do or do not believe. Life is about developement of the soul, whether by means of a religion, denying every religion or just drawing up your own plan and eat blueberries all day every day.

When someone starts picking on someone else, for whatever reason, it indicates they have a longer path ahead than those who do not need to downplay other people's actions to make themselves look better. It's primitive but for some reason, a good 7000 years into this civilisation, we haven't managed to stop picking on each other.

So peace would be damn good start to try and develop as a species, not as a group or as an individual. And if you don't get it in this life, then I guess I'll see you next lifetime.

The problem with this thinking is that it will not work. Nice idea. But it doesn't work.

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Quote from: BADecker on April 13, 2016, 10:15:04 AM

Quote from: jonatuzc on April 13, 2016, 09:56:02 AM

Please We need peace in the world and not fights

That's the trick, isn't it?

If the other guy doesn't want peace, and shows it by his actions against you, how do you live peacefully? You can roll over and die. But that isn't living.

Cool

If you die, you die. If you're done here you'll evolve into something grander.

To attack or to defend are all part of the play you're in, in this lifetime. Mutual respect should prevent others from taking your life. As long as that is not the case then there is a chance you'll die, goes for the other guy as well.

There is more between living on your knees and dying on your feet. We're simply not there yet and fear is powerful instrument to keep anyone from rising above the flock.

RJX

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Quote from: jonatuzc on April 13, 2016, 09:56:02 AM

Please We need peace in the world and not fights

And there's the whole truth. Who cares what you do or do not believe. Life is about developement of the soul, whether by means of a religion, denying every religion or just drawing up your own plan and eat blueberries all day every day.

When someone starts picking on someone else, for whatever reason, it indicates they have a longer path ahead than those who do not need to downplay other people's actions to make themselves look better. It's primitive but for some reason, a good 7000 years into this civilisation, we haven't managed to stop picking on each other.

So peace would be damn good start to try and develop as a species, not as a group or as an individual. And if you don't get it in this life, then I guess I'll see you next lifetime.

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Quote from: jonatuzc on April 13, 2016, 09:56:02 AM

Please We need peace in the world and not fights

That's the trick, isn't it?

If the other guy doesn't want peace, and shows it by his actions against you, how do you live peacefully? You can roll over and die. But that isn't living.

Cool

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Please We need peace in the world and not fights

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Quote from: BADecker on April 11, 2016, 01:40:17 PM

God doesn't hate fags, nor does He make them. God makes straight people. Fags make themselves. God simply tries to turn fags from the mess they are making of their own lives by being fags.
Rather, He commands His followers to love gays, and try to move them out of their self-destructive nature. Difficult thing to do.
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Since you claimed that we have no free will:

Quote from: BADecker on August 26, 2015, 01:00:33 PM

We don't even have free will.

How could homosexual people choose to be homosexual when they have no choice in the matter because they have no free will? Why would your god try to change their alleged "self-destructive nature", when your god knows full well his supposed followers could never do that due to lack of free will? Why would your "loving" god create homosexual people (remember cause and effect, they must of been born homosexual) then condemn them to hell for something completely out of their control?

Or are you going to make up a special "homosexual free will exemption" rule up? Just like you did when you panicked after I pointed out if we have no free will then Cristianity is proven false.

Well, it wouldn't matter to you. You would stay exactly fluffy as you are even if you had free will, right Fluffer?

Cheesy

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I had a funny feeling you would avoid answering that one. Cheesy

Trouble is you've twisted yourself up into such a BADlogic soggy bag of lies, you cannot really answer without digging yourself even deeper into that hole.

Not sure what you are talking about. Everyone has a right to his/her own opinion. More than anyone, you seem to state your opinion as an opinion. You seldom if ever offer anything to back up what you say. Why contradict that you have an opinion? Everyone has many opinions. What is there to answer?

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Funny how you seem to get these recurring bouts of amnesia with regard to questions, with increasing frequency on here I might add. Ginkgo biloba can help with that.

You suggest that something is funny. It isn't you. You would rather distort things than go and look at what is being said in the context that it is being said. This makes you to be deceptive.

In another post I invited you to come to God and to church. This was following a post of yours where you said essentially that the smart elite in church are there to rip people off.

What you are really showing us is that you, in your deceptiveness, are not smart. If you were smart, you would be in church, there to rip other people off. How do we know? By your deceptiveness that you attempt to use to rip people off in their thinking... right here in this forum. As it is, you are ignorant and unthinking enough that you can't even understand the things that you are talking about.

There is nothing wrong with this. Not everyone can be a great thinker. And you probably have some other wonderful traits that make up for both, your deceptiveness, and your inability to understand things.

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Quote from: BADecker on April 12, 2016, 08:46:12 AM

Quote from: Buffer Overflow on April 12, 2016, 12:38:02 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 11, 2016, 08:35:20 PM

Quote from: Buffer Overflow on April 11, 2016, 06:28:08 PM

Quote from: BADecker on April 11, 2016, 01:40:17 PM

God doesn't hate fags, nor does He make them. God makes straight people. Fags make themselves. God simply tries to turn fags from the mess they are making of their own lives by being fags.
Rather, He commands His followers to love gays, and try to move them out of their self-destructive nature. Difficult thing to do.
Cool

Since you claimed that we have no free will:

Quote from: BADecker on August 26, 2015, 01:00:33 PM

We don't even have free will.

How could homosexual people choose to be homosexual when they have no choice in the matter because they have no free will? Why would your god try to change their alleged "self-destructive nature", when your god knows full well his supposed followers could never do that due to lack of free will? Why would your "loving" god create homosexual people (remember cause and effect, they must of been born homosexual) then condemn them to hell for something completely out of their control?

Or are you going to make up a special "homosexual free will exemption" rule up? Just like you did when you panicked after I pointed out if we have no free will then Cristianity is proven false.

Well, it wouldn't matter to you. You would stay exactly fluffy as you are even if you had free will, right Fluffer?

Cheesy

.

I had a funny feeling you would avoid answering that one. Cheesy

Trouble is you've twisted yourself up into such a BADlogic soggy bag of lies, you cannot really answer without digging yourself even deeper into that hole.

Not sure what you are talking about. Everyone has a right to his/her own opinion. More than anyone, you seem to state your opinion as an opinion. You seldom if ever offer anything to back up what you say. Why contradict that you have an opinion? Everyone has many opinions. What is there to answer?

Cool

Funny how you seem to get these recurring bouts of amnesia with regard to questions, with increasing frequency on here I might add. Ginkgo biloba can help with that.

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