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I am not a Christian but I believe in God. In fact , all the religions do. Purpose of religion is to stop people from doing misdeeds but some people in past (who call themselves as preacher) have manipulated religions and has made it ugly.

The purpose of the Jewish religion is the same as that of the Christian religion. What is this purpose? It is salvation of the soul, so that people can live in the next life, forever, rather than die for eternity.

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All Abrahamic religions believes in salvation of soul and Indian religions like hinduism, jainism, buddhism, sikhism believe in liberation from circle of re-birth. Every religion has it's own belief. But all of them want people to stay away from sins not to commit them.

not just christians all religion mention above is poison to humanity making believe that dont exist and no scientific explanation.

Here's the problem. People are religion creatures. If you took all religions away from all people, they would simply create more religions to fill the gaps. Even the few people who suggest that they don't have a religion, still do have a religion. Their religion is simply a religion of non-religion.

You can't get away from religion, and you really don't want to. When I say "you," I don't mean the general audience. I mean YOU, Nevis.

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Really every human creation is in relation to any of the religion in one way or the other. People who don't believe in this and relate everything with science indicates not only Christianity, every religion a poison.

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Quote from: Moloch on April 04, 2016, 02:45:36 AM

The problem with Christianity is that it's time has come and gone... Literally

The whole symbolism that the Jews used then writing the old Testament and the prophecy of the Messiah, Jesus... Revolves around astrology and numerology

Specifically, 4000 years ago Abraham was ready to murder his own son, but God provided a ram instead...

This was the symbol for the procession of the zodiac signs... The ram is the sign for Aires, the age at the time...

Jesus is represented by the fish, Pisces... His age is from approx 0 AD until 2000 AD...

As we have now passed into the age of Aquarius, Jesus will be replaced by a new religion, for the new age...

Actually, the new age that is coming will remove all opposition to God. Opposition will remove so completely that there will be nothing but the strength of God remaining. In this strength will be found joy and glory that last forever and ever.

Even appearances of some form of opposition to God will be destroyed in the lake of fire.

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You're making a solid prediction here, any idea when this might happen? What are your confidence intervals? If OTOH you don't have any, you should probably modify your statement.

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Quote from: Moloch on April 04, 2016, 02:45:36 AM

The problem with Christianity is that it's time has come and gone... Literally

The whole symbolism that the Jews used then writing the old Testament and the prophecy of the Messiah, Jesus... Revolves around astrology and numerology

Specifically, 4000 years ago Abraham was ready to murder his own son, but God provided a ram instead...

This was the symbol for the procession of the zodiac signs... The ram is the sign for Aires, the age at the time...

Jesus is represented by the fish, Pisces... His age is from approx 0 AD until 2000 AD...

As we have now passed into the age of Aquarius, Jesus will be replaced by a new religion, for the new age...

Actually, the new age that is coming will remove all opposition to God. Opposition will remove so completely that there will be nothing but the strength of God remaining. In this strength will be found joy and glory that last forever and ever.

Even appearances of some form of opposition to God will be destroyed in the lake of fire.

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Quote from: Moloch on April 02, 2016, 10:23:16 PM

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Quote from: BADecker on April 02, 2016, 03:13:30 PM

Here's the problem. People are religion creatures. If you took all religions away from all people, they would simply create more religions to fill the gaps. Even the few people who suggest that they don't have a religion, still do have a religion. Their religion is simply a religion of non-religion.

You can't get away from religion, and you really don't want to. When I say "you," I don't mean the general audience. I mean YOU, Nevis.

So if you believe people will just make up religions for some reason, you don't think there's "one true god"?

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He basically just admitted all religions are man-made to fill the gaps in knowledge/understanding

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of_the_gaps

This is a plus 1 religion of Moloch's. Cool

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Quote from: organofcorti on April 02, 2016, 10:20:42 PM

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Quote from: Kartikay on March 31, 2016, 11:33:51 PM

I am not a Christian but I believe in God. In fact , all the religions do. Purpose of religion is to stop people from doing misdeeds but some people in past (who call themselves as preacher) have manipulated religions and has made it ugly.

The purpose of the Jewish religion is the same as that of the Christian religion. What is this purpose? It is salvation of the soul, so that people can live in the next life, forever, rather than die for eternity.

Cool

All Abrahamic religions believes in salvation of soul and Indian religions like hinduism, jainism, buddhism, sikhism believe in liberation from circle of re-birth. Every religion has it's own belief. But all of them want people to stay away from sins not to commit them.

not just christians all religion mention above is poison to humanity making believe that dont exist and no scientific explanation.

Here's the problem. People are religion creatures. If you took all religions away from all people, they would simply create more religions to fill the gaps. Even the few people who suggest that they don't have a religion, still do have a religion. Their religion is simply a religion of non-religion.

You can't get away from religion, and you really don't want to. When I say "you," I don't mean the general audience. I mean YOU, Nevis.

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So if you believe people will just make up religions for some reason, you don't think there's "one true god"?

Rather, you are making up and following a religion that thinks that God doesn't exist.

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The problem with Christianity is that it's time has come and gone... Literally

The whole symbolism that the Jews used then writing the old Testament and the prophecy of the Messiah, Jesus... Revolves around astrology and numerology

Specifically, 4000 years ago Abraham was ready to murder his own son, but God provided a ram instead...

This was the symbol for the procession of the zodiac signs... The ram is the sign for Aires, the age at the time...

Jesus is represented by the fish, Pisces... His age is from approx 0 AD until 2000 AD...

As we have now passed into the age of Aquarius, Jesus will be replaced by a new religion, for the new age...

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Quote from: Moloch on April 02, 2016, 10:23:16 PM

Quote from: organofcorti on April 02, 2016, 10:20:42 PM

Quote from: BADecker on April 02, 2016, 03:13:30 PM

Here's the problem. People are religion creatures. If you took all religions away from all people, they would simply create more religions to fill the gaps. Even the few people who suggest that they don't have a religion, still do have a religion. Their religion is simply a religion of non-religion.

You can't get away from religion, and you really don't want to. When I say "you," I don't mean the general audience. I mean YOU, Nevis.

So if you believe people will just make up religions for some reason, you don't think there's "one true god"?

+1

He basically just admitted all religions are man-made to fill the gaps in knowledge/understanding

Well, he could believe that there's some god of which we know nothing but of which some people attempt some imperfect understanding. Either way it implies he cannot be a member of a dogmatic religion like Christianity, so I'd like to read his response.

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Quote from: Moloch on April 02, 2016, 10:23:16 PM

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Quote from: BADecker on April 02, 2016, 03:13:30 PM

Here's the problem. People are religion creatures. If you took all religions away from all people, they would simply create more religions to fill the gaps. Even the few people who suggest that they don't have a religion, still do have a religion. Their religion is simply a religion of non-religion.

You can't get away from religion, and you really don't want to. When I say "you," I don't mean the general audience. I mean YOU, Nevis.

So if you believe people will just make up religions for some reason, you don't think there's "one true god"?

+1

He basically just admitted all religions are man-made to fill the gaps in knowledge/understanding

Well, he could believe that there's some god of which we know nothing but of which some people attempt some imperfect understanding. Either way it implies he cannot be a member of a dogmatic religion like Christianity, so I'd like to read his response.

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Quote from: organofcorti on April 02, 2016, 10:20:42 PM

Quote from: BADecker on April 02, 2016, 03:13:30 PM

Here's the problem. People are religion creatures. If you took all religions away from all people, they would simply create more religions to fill the gaps. Even the few people who suggest that they don't have a religion, still do have a religion. Their religion is simply a religion of non-religion.

You can't get away from religion, and you really don't want to. When I say "you," I don't mean the general audience. I mean YOU, Nevis.

So if you believe people will just make up religions for some reason, you don't think there's "one true god"?

+1

He basically just admitted all religions are man-made to fill the gaps in knowledge/understanding

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of_the_gaps

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Quote from: BADecker on April 02, 2016, 03:13:30 PM

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Quote from: Kartikay on April 02, 2016, 05:13:31 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 01, 2016, 01:31:33 AM

Quote from: Kartikay on March 31, 2016, 11:33:51 PM

I am not a Christian but I believe in God. In fact , all the religions do. Purpose of religion is to stop people from doing misdeeds but some people in past (who call themselves as preacher) have manipulated religions and has made it ugly.

The purpose of the Jewish religion is the same as that of the Christian religion. What is this purpose? It is salvation of the soul, so that people can live in the next life, forever, rather than die for eternity.

Cool

All Abrahamic religions believes in salvation of soul and Indian religions like hinduism, jainism, buddhism, sikhism believe in liberation from circle of re-birth. Every religion has it's own belief. But all of them want people to stay away from sins not to commit them.

not just christians all religion mention above is poison to humanity making believe that dont exist and no scientific explanation.

Here's the problem. People are religion creatures. If you took all religions away from all people, they would simply create more religions to fill the gaps. Even the few people who suggest that they don't have a religion, still do have a religion. Their religion is simply a religion of non-religion.

You can't get away from religion, and you really don't want to. When I say "you," I don't mean the general audience. I mean YOU, Nevis.

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So if you believe people will just make up religions for some reason, you don't think there's "one true god"?

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Quote from: Nevis on April 02, 2016, 05:19:16 AM

Quote from: Kartikay on April 02, 2016, 05:13:31 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 01, 2016, 01:31:33 AM

Quote from: Kartikay on March 31, 2016, 11:33:51 PM

I am not a Christian but I believe in God. In fact , all the religions do. Purpose of religion is to stop people from doing misdeeds but some people in past (who call themselves as preacher) have manipulated religions and has made it ugly.

The purpose of the Jewish religion is the same as that of the Christian religion. What is this purpose? It is salvation of the soul, so that people can live in the next life, forever, rather than die for eternity.

Cool

All Abrahamic religions believes in salvation of soul and Indian religions like hinduism, jainism, buddhism, sikhism believe in liberation from circle of re-birth. Every religion has it's own belief. But all of them want people to stay away from sins not to commit them.

not just christians all religion mention above is poison to humanity making believe that dont exist and no scientific explanation.

Here's the problem. People are religion creatures. If you took all religions away from all people, they would simply create more religions to fill the gaps. Even the few people who suggest that they don't have a religion, still do have a religion. Their religion is simply a religion of non-religion.

You can't get away from religion, and you really don't want to. When I say "you," I don't mean the general audience. I mean YOU, Nevis.

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Quote from: Kartikay on April 02, 2016, 05:13:31 AM

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Quote from: Kartikay on March 31, 2016, 11:33:51 PM

I am not a Christian but I believe in God. In fact , all the religions do. Purpose of religion is to stop people from doing misdeeds but some people in past (who call themselves as preacher) have manipulated religions and has made it ugly.

The purpose of the Jewish religion is the same as that of the Christian religion. What is this purpose? It is salvation of the soul, so that people can live in the next life, forever, rather than die for eternity.

Cool

All Abrahamic religions believes in salvation of soul and Indian religions like hinduism, jainism, buddhism, sikhism believe in liberation from circle of re-birth. Every religion has it's own belief. But all of them want people to stay away from sins not to commit them.

not just christians all religion mention above is poison to humanity making believe that dont exist and no scientific explanation.

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Quote from: BADecker on April 01, 2016, 01:31:33 AM

Quote from: Kartikay on March 31, 2016, 11:33:51 PM

I am not a Christian but I believe in God. In fact , all the religions do. Purpose of religion is to stop people from doing misdeeds but some people in past (who call themselves as preacher) have manipulated religions and has made it ugly.

The purpose of the Jewish religion is the same as that of the Christian religion. What is this purpose? It is salvation of the soul, so that people can live in the next life, forever, rather than die for eternity.

Cool

All Abrahamic religions believes in salvation of soul and Indian religions like hinduism, jainism, buddhism, sikhism believe in liberation from circle of re-birth. Every religion has it's own belief. But all of them want people to stay away from sins not to commit them.

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Yeah religion surely poison to society before there was no religion everyone brain is in order now its not even functioning.

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A very good read I must say, makes perfect sense http://www.alternet.org/story/154774/the_top_10_reasons_i_don't_believe_in_god

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If it were, people wouldn't just believe whatever religion they were taught as children, simply because it was what they were taught as children. The fact that religion runs so firmly in families strongly suggests that it is not a perception of a real phenomenon. It is a dogma, supported and perpetuated by tradition and social pressure -- and in many cases, by fear and intimidation. Not by reality.

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STUDY: Religious Kids Can't Tell Fact From Fiction
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Quote from: mprep on April 01, 2016, 11:55:49 AM

...feel free to stop responding rather than continuing to scream and shout, while tripping over your own logical fallacies and evidence-less (as well as sourceless) claims that seem to be primarily backed by the "I know, trust me" confirmation.

(I'm not trolling)

You are one to talk about "I know, trust me confirmation"... you keep making claims that I've never even heard another Christian make, without anything to back it up... I have provided numerous links and bible quotes to back up every claim I have made

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“I think that anybody who advocates infinite punishment or infinite rewards for finite crimes and deeds is morally inferior. I think that anybody who is supposedly omniscient and omnipotent and omnibenevolent who creates a system knowing that people are not going to be able to live up to its standards, spends an eternity punishing them … and the only loophole that the creator of all the laws of the universe can come up with - why didn’t he just forgive everybody or change the laws? - but instead he has to create a loophole where he comes down bodily and sacrifices himself to himself to act as a loophole for a rule that he created. It’s absurd. It is laughably absurd. And it’s immoral.”

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Quote from: mprep on March 31, 2016, 07:48:49 PM

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You cannot possibly say you believe the creation story, flood, exodus and 10-commandments are 100% true and accurate, but the other 603 commandments in the Old Testament don't count... that's bullshit cherry-picking to the extreme

The general consensus seems that it is not to be used for moral purposes , but more as a "prophecy" that was already fullfilled.

As metaphors for creation of the universal system (governed by the laws of physics, chemistry, biology, etc.) and a conscious species within said system, the downfall due to conscious species' inability to control itself and then the humanity's search for purpose.

I believe that part of it was either lost as history progressed (there isn't an original copy in existence, just a bunch of early copies) or lost in translation as it went through numerous people with different cultural backgrounds.

Complete nonsense... General consensus?!? Where do you get that idea? Have you met other Christians before? There is no consensus about anything... Ever heard of a Fundamentalist? They take the bible literally... they absolutely believe the old testament is 100% literal, no metaphors at all...

Who are you to decide what verses God meant to be literal vs metaphor? How do you claim any of it is metaphor? Do you speak for God? God writes literally, he does not claim anything is a metaphor in the entire bible... if you think it's a metaphor, that is your personal interpretation and you do not speak for God or all Christians... sorry...

Quote from: mprep on March 31, 2016, 07:48:49 PM

Also, in terms of the 10 commandments:

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“This is love for God: to obey his commands. And his commands are not burdensome” (1 John 5:3). The Ten Commandments were essentially a summary of the entire Old Testament law. Nine of the Ten Commandments are clearly repeated in the New Testament (all except the command to observe the Sabbath day). Obviously, if we are loving God, we will not be worshipping false gods or bowing down before idols. If we are loving our neighbors, we will not be murdering them, lying to them, committing adultery against them, or coveting what belongs to them.

Source: http://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-law.html

Also complete nonsense... Do you seriously believe the 10-commandments are a summary of the entire Old Testament law?!?!? WTF do you get this crazy bullshit that no other Christian has ever said?

Have you read the Old Testament? Are you familiar with the 613 laws? And you think the 10-commandments are a summary of the 613 laws?!? NO... NO... If you make me prove this to you... fuck you... you don't know shit and are not worthy of my time
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/613_commandments#Maimonides.27_list

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Complete nonsense... General consensus?!? Where do you get that idea? Have you met other Christians before? There is no consensus about anything...

There's quite a few disagreements in various branches/sects of Christianity, however, the fact that it is overwritten by the New Testament in terms of morality is the primary difference between Judaism and Christianity. There are, however, sects or fundamentalists of certain branches that believe otherwise. It's general consensus, not absolute.

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Ever heard of a Fundamentalist? They take the bible literally... they absolutely believe the old testament is 100% literal, no metaphors at all...

Which I thoroughly disagree with and actually find agnostic atheism with basic morality as governed by the current civilized society better than the extremely fundamental Christianity. So I don't think there's a disagreement on this point.

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Have you read the Old Testament? Are you familiar with the 613 laws? And you think the 10-commandments are a summary of the 613 laws?!?

Summary of general moral values, not only meant for the time. It's supposed to strip out the cultural and societal structures at the time and get to the core of what the religion (before the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, because after said event the New Testament becomes THE document for the morality in the Christian religion) teaches.

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NO... NO... If you make me prove this to you... fuck you... you don't know shit and are not worthy of my time

Such a compelling argument with tons of proof /sarcasm. In all seriousness, if you think I'm "not worthy of" your time, feel free to stop responding rather than continuing to scream and shout, while tripping over your own logical fallacies and evidence-less (as well as sourceless) claims that seem to be primarily backed by the "I know, trust me" confirmation.

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Quote from: mprep on March 31, 2016, 07:48:49 PM

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You cannot possibly say you believe the creation story, flood, exodus and 10-commandments are 100% true and accurate, but the other 603 commandments in the Old Testament don't count... that's bullshit cherry-picking to the extreme

The general consensus seems that it is not to be used for moral purposes , but more as a "prophecy" that was already fullfilled.

As metaphors for creation of the universal system (governed by the laws of physics, chemistry, biology, etc.) and a conscious species within said system, the downfall due to conscious species' inability to control itself and then the humanity's search for purpose.

I believe that part of it was either lost as history progressed (there isn't an original copy in existence, just a bunch of early copies) or lost in translation as it went through numerous people with different cultural backgrounds.

Complete nonsense... General consensus?!? Where do you get that idea? Have you met other Christians before? There is no consensus about anything... Ever heard of a Fundamentalist? They take the bible literally... they absolutely believe the old testament is 100% literal, no metaphors at all...

Who are you to decide what verses God meant to be literal vs metaphor? How do you claim any of it is metaphor? Do you speak for God? God writes literally, he does not claim anything is a metaphor in the entire bible... if you think it's a metaphor, that is your personal interpretation and you do not speak for God or all Christians... sorry...

Quote from: mprep on March 31, 2016, 07:48:49 PM

Also, in terms of the 10 commandments:

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“This is love for God: to obey his commands. And his commands are not burdensome” (1 John 5:3). The Ten Commandments were essentially a summary of the entire Old Testament law. Nine of the Ten Commandments are clearly repeated in the New Testament (all except the command to observe the Sabbath day). Obviously, if we are loving God, we will not be worshipping false gods or bowing down before idols. If we are loving our neighbors, we will not be murdering them, lying to them, committing adultery against them, or coveting what belongs to them.

Source: http://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-law.html

Also complete nonsense... Do you seriously believe the 10-commandments are a summary of the entire Old Testament law?!?!? WTF do you get this crazy bullshit that no other Christian has ever said?

Have you read the Old Testament? Are you familiar with the 613 laws? And you think the 10-commandments are a summary of the 613 laws?!? NO... NO... If you make me prove this to you... fuck you... you don't know shit and are not worthy of my time

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/613_commandments#Maimonides.27_list

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To burn a city that has turned to idol worship — Deut. 13:17
Not to rebuild it as a city — Deut. 13:17
To circumcise all males on the eighth day after their birth — Gen. 17:10
Not to slaughter an animal and its offspring on the same day — Lev. 22:28
To cover the blood (of a slaughtered beast or fowl) with earth — Lev. 17:13
To send away the mother bird before taking its children — Deut. 22:6
To release the mother bird if she was taken from the nest — Deut. 22:7
To wear tefillin (phylacteries) on the head — Deut. 6:8
To bind tefillin on the arm — Deut. 6:8
To put a mezuzah on the door post — Deut. 6:9
Each male must write a Torah scroll — Deut. 31:19
The king must have a separate Torah scroll for himself — Deut. 17:18
The courts must carry out the death penalty of stoning — Deut. 22:24
A judge must not have mercy on the poor man at the trial — Lev. 19:15
Appoint a king from Israel — Deut. 17:15
Not to appoint a foreigner — Deut. 17:15
The king must not have too many wives — Deut. 17:17
The king must not have too many horses — Deut. 17:16
The king must not have too much silver and gold — Deut. 17:17

Yeah, sounds exactly like the 10-commandments...

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Quote from: Kartikay on March 31, 2016, 11:33:51 PM

I am not a Christian but I believe in God. In fact , all the religions do. Purpose of religion is to stop people from doing misdeeds but some people in past (who call themselves as preacher) have manipulated religions and has made it ugly.

The purpose of the Jewish religion is the same as that of the Christian religion. What is this purpose? It is salvation of the soul, so that people can live in the next life, forever, rather than die for eternity.

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