There are a lot of really nice religious people. Many of the best people I know are Christians.
However, I believe all religion to be poison. If you look at the big picture religion is extremely bad for humanity.
Good that we are moving rapidly away from it. Millennials is in my view, the definitely smartest generation the world has seen.
Not because of the people though, because of the internet. Or to say more clearly, the information age.
Topic: Christianity is Poison - page 55. (Read 52590 times)
I wouldn't say, on the scale of religion, that the current version of modern Christianity is high on the dangerous scale. There is another obvious religion that is creating much of the chaos in the Middle East. Fortunately Europe has been able to extract some of the morals that the bible taught and had time to transform them into a legal structure with courts and (usually) fair judges.
Nobody actually gets their morals from the bible... that is not where morals come from...
Which country makes it illegal to worship another God, build an idol, work on the sabbath, etc?
You could try to claim that the idea of stealing and murder being criminal came from the bible, but you would be incorrect... those were both illegal long before the bible was written...
The only thing the bible adds are things which are not crimes... like thought crimes... Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife? Where is that a law?!?
You seem to be under the misconception that since 2 biblical laws and 2 secular laws are similar, that society got all its laws from the bible??? That's wrong, silly and completely ignorant
You seem to be of the idea that there was always a court of law or police service protecting people. That laws magically bounced into reality and were not built from anything else. I explicitly said "extract some of the morals", so why are you nailing down what I said to specific laws? There obviously aren't exactly parallels with laws in the bible, we're not even talking about specific countries as laws vary. You're the ignorant one, thinking you know everyones thoughts.
You are the one who claimed Europe got its morals from the bible... when in reality it's the other way around... the bible got its morals from Europe
I would present evidence in the form of The Code of Hammurabi:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Hammurabi
The Code of Hammurabi was written in stone circa 1754BC, long before the bible was written...
The CoH is the source of morals in the bible... it's quite clear when you compare the two sets of laws that the biblical laws copied the Code of Hammurabi (which was itself a copy of earlier sets of laws dating back to at least 2050BC)
Quote from: Code of Hammurabi
If any one is committing a robbery and is caught, then he shall be put to death
Quote from: the bible
Thou shalt not steal
Quote from: Code of Hammurabi
If any one "point the finger" at a sister of a god or the wife of any one, and can not prove it, this man shall be taken before the judges and his brow shall be marked
Quote from: the bible
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor
I wouldn't say, on the scale of religion, that the current version of modern Christianity is high on the dangerous scale. There is another obvious religion that is creating much of the chaos in the Middle East. Fortunately Europe has been able to extract some of the morals that the bible taught and had time to transform them into a legal structure with courts and (usually) fair judges.
Nobody actually gets their morals from the bible... that is not where morals come from...
Which country makes it illegal to worship another God, build an idol, work on the sabbath, etc?
You could try to claim that the idea of stealing and murder being criminal came from the bible, but you would be incorrect... those were both illegal long before the bible was written...
The only thing the bible adds are things which are not crimes... like thought crimes... Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife? Where is that a law?!?
You seem to be under the misconception that since 2 biblical laws and 2 secular laws are similar, that society got all its laws from the bible??? That's wrong, silly and completely ignorant
You seem to be of the idea that there was always a court of law or police service protecting people. That laws magically bounced into reality and were not built from anything else. I explicitly said "extract some of the morals", so why are you nailing down what I said to specific laws? There obviously aren't exactly parallels with laws in the bible, we're not even talking about specific countries as laws vary. You're the ignorant one, thinking you know everyones thoughts.
religion will teach you how to be a better person, we can't compare all religion where are good it's back to your self. where you faith believe in Buddhism, Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, Catholicism, atheists, Unreligious. so i never think Christianity is Poison or other religion is Poison, in my view all religion is same.
Religion does not teach you to be a better person...
Religion teaches you to own slaves, rape women, murder homosexuals, murder witches, murder your own children, etc...
Basically, religion teaches you to be a hateful narcissistic bigot, who thinks God loves you more than other people...
If you managed to learn something good from religion, you did that on your own... please do not give religion credit for your own deeds
not murdered. Only those Human with some big inferiority inside them, manipulate their faith to teach and do all those Bad things to revenge themselves and feel superior. A good religious and believer in God has peace with everybody in the world. Any person who tells you that their Religion is the better one in world, is not a religious but a lost person with an inferiority inside him that wants revenge.
Try reading the bible, then get back to me on what it says...
Until you have read the bible, just trust me... the bible says all the things that I claim it says, and much worse
Start with Leviticus... tell me there is anything at all good in that entire book... it's simply evil and wrong
You cannot pick and choose which book/verses to believe... that is not Christianity, but cherry-picking
Ok please give me some specific passages in the Bible that say all the things that you claim and I will take all my words back.
Anybody can manipulate what is written in the Bible or Quran and teach it to some group of people for their own evil needs.
Slavery:
Quote from: Leviticus 25:44-46
As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly.
Quote from: Exodus 21:20-21
When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his property.
More slavery in the bible: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_slavery
Rape:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_the_Hebrew_Bible
Homosexuality:
Quote from: Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Witches:
Quote from: Exodus 22:13
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
Murder your own child:
Quote from: Deuteronomy 21:18-21
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:
Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;
And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;
And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
Is that enough, or do you need more quotes from the bible before you will believe me?
I wouldn't say, on the scale of religion, that the current version of modern Christianity is high on the dangerous scale. There is another obvious religion that is creating much of the chaos in the Middle East. Fortunately Europe has been able to extract some of the morals that the bible taught and had time to transform them into a legal structure with courts and (usually) fair judges.
Nobody actually gets their morals from the bible... that is not where morals come from...
Which country makes it illegal to worship another God, build an idol, work on the sabbath, etc?
You could try to claim that the idea of stealing and murder being criminal came from the bible, but you would be incorrect... those were both illegal long before the bible was written...
The only thing the bible adds are things which are not crimes... like thought crimes... Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife? Where is that a law?!?
You seem to be under the misconception that since 2 biblical laws and 2 secular laws are similar, that society got all its laws from the bible??? That's wrong, silly and completely ignorant
I wouldn't say, on the scale of religion, that the current version of modern Christianity is high on the dangerous scale. There is another obvious religion that is creating much of the chaos in the Middle East. Fortunately Europe has been able to extract some of the morals that the bible taught and had time to transform them into a legal structure with courts and (usually) fair judges.
religion will teach you how to be a better person, we can't compare all religion where are good it's back to your self. where you faith believe in Buddhism, Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, Catholicism, atheists, Unreligious. so i never think Christianity is Poison or other religion is Poison, in my view all religion is same.
Religion does not teach you to be a better person...
Religion teaches you to own slaves, rape women, murder homosexuals, murder witches, murder your own children, etc...
Basically, religion teaches you to be a hateful narcissistic bigot, who thinks God loves you more than other people...
If you managed to learn something good from religion, you did that on your own... please do not give religion credit for your own deeds
not murdered. Only those Human with some big inferiority inside them, manipulate their faith to teach and do all those Bad things to revenge themselves and feel superior. A good religious and believer in God has peace with everybody in the world. Any person who tells you that their Religion is the better one in world, is not a religious but a lost person with an inferiority inside him that wants revenge.
Try reading the bible, then get back to me on what it says...
Until you have read the bible, just trust me... the bible says all the things that I claim it says, and much worse
Start with Leviticus... tell me there is anything at all good in that entire book... it's simply evil and wrong
You cannot pick and choose which book/verses to believe... that is not Christianity, but cherry-picking
Ok please give me some specific passages in the Bible that say all the things that you claim and I will take all my words back.
Anybody can manipulate what is written in the Bible or Quran and teach it to some group of people for their own evil needs.
religion will teach you how to be a better person, we can't compare all religion where are good it's back to your self. where you faith believe in Buddhism, Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, Catholicism, atheists, Unreligious. so i never think Christianity is Poison or other religion is Poison, in my view all religion is same.
Religion does not teach you to be a better person...
Religion teaches you to own slaves, rape women, murder homosexuals, murder witches, murder your own children, etc...
Basically, religion teaches you to be a hateful narcissistic bigot, who thinks God loves you more than other people...
If you managed to learn something good from religion, you did that on your own... please do not give religion credit for your own deeds
not murdered. Only those Human with some big inferiority inside them, manipulate their faith to teach and do all those Bad things to revenge themselves and feel superior. A good religious and believer in God has peace with everybody in the world. Any person who tells you that their Religion is the better one in world, is not a religious but a lost person with an inferiority inside him that wants revenge.
Try reading the bible, then get back to me on what it says...
Until you have read the bible, just trust me... the bible says all the things that I claim it says, and much worse
Start with Leviticus... tell me there is anything at all good in that entire book... it's simply evil and wrong
You cannot pick and choose which book/verses to believe were written by God... that is not Christianity, but cherry-picking
religion will teach you how to be a better person, we can't compare all religion where are good it's back to your self. where you faith believe in Buddhism, Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, Catholicism, atheists, Unreligious. so i never think Christianity is Poison or other religion is Poison, in my view all religion is same.
Religion does not teach you to be a better person...
Religion teaches you to own slaves, rape women, murder homosexuals, murder witches, murder your own children, etc...
Basically, religion teaches you to be a hateful narcissistic bigot, who thinks God loves you more than other people...
If you managed to learn something good from religion, you did that on your own... please do not give religion credit for your own deeds
not murdered. Only those Human with some big inferiority inside them, manipulate their faith to teach and do all those Bad things to revenge themselves and feel superior. A good religious and believer in God has peace with everybody in the world. Any person who tells you that their Religion is the better one in world, is not a religious but a lost person with an inferiority inside him that wants revenge.
Religion itself is a poison. not just Christianity though.
But then its put in our minds, in the minds of every individual who belongs to a country whether a Muslim or christian to control the masses. its been taught on schools even to kids.
But then its put in our minds, in the minds of every individual who belongs to a country whether a Muslim or christian to control the masses. its been taught on schools even to kids.
I'm only here to start the conversation because I'm tired of seeing "Atheism is Poison" thread being bumped daily... can't you assholes give the anti-Atheist bigotry a break for a single fucking day?!?
If you really need someone to elaborate on all the ways that religion poisons people's mind, body, soul and the planet... I can do that...
Please, someone tell me how believing in a magic sky God is better than not believing in a magic sky God... How does believing in fairy tales help a person in any way whatsoever?
If you really need someone to elaborate on all the ways that religion poisons people's mind, body, soul and the planet... I can do that...
Please, someone tell me how believing in a magic sky God is better than not believing in a magic sky God... How does believing in fairy tales help a person in any way whatsoever?
i think not just christianty , all the religions are poison.. they simply teach being a good rapist, murderer and arrogant person to our children rather than teaching being a good person.. this is the horrible fact for sure..
religion will teach you how to be a better person, we can't compare all religion where are good it's back to your self. where you faith believe in Buddhism, Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, Catholicism, atheists, Unreligious. so i never think Christianity is Poison or other religion is Poison, in my view all religion is same.
Religion does not teach you to be a better person...
Religion teaches you to own slaves, rape women, murder homosexuals, murder witches, murder your own children, etc...
Basically, religion teaches you to be a hateful narcissistic bigot, who thinks God loves you more than other people...
If you managed to learn something good from religion, you did that on your own... please do not give religion credit for your own deeds
religion will teach you how to be a better person, we can't compare all religion where are good it's back to your self. where you faith believe in Buddhism, Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, Catholicism, atheists, Unreligious. so i never think Christianity is Poison or other religion is Poison, in my view all religion is same.
OK...
I don`t believe in the divine nature of Jesus too...
Who or what created the universe???
I don`t believe in the divine nature of Jesus too...
Who or what created the universe???
I'm only here to start the conversation because I'm tired of seeing "Atheism is Poison" thread being bumped daily... can't you assholes give the anti-Atheist bigotry a break for a single fucking day?!?
If you really need someone to elaborate on all the ways that religion poisons people's mind, body, soul and the planet... I can do that...
Please, someone tell me how believing in a magic sky God is better than not believing in a magic sky God... How does believing in fairy tales help a person in any way whatsoever?
If you really need someone to elaborate on all the ways that religion poisons people's mind, body, soul and the planet... I can do that...
Please, someone tell me how believing in a magic sky God is better than not believing in a magic sky God... How does believing in fairy tales help a person in any way whatsoever?
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