Topic: Class action Litigation vs. Bitcoinica Consultancy LTD & Intersango LTD - page 3. (Read 26991 times)

got at least the files. if this post vanishes without notice, it was the moderator.

https://rapidshare.com/files/2525580989/sign-7-once-on-24th-once-on-29th.doc
https://rapidshare.com/files/2543142282/jason-rev.docx

that was an odd post

Reminds me of mybitcoin.

Well at this point Id say keep posting NDA information atleast then someone in charge will come out of the shadows to sue you then everyone can sue that person.

As things go right now, no one is being held accountable.

The question is did genjix remove them or a mod ?

That leads to which mod would do so and why

Nope.. I just finished reading them, and their gone.

Amir was almost certainly breaching the NDA by posting them.  It's possible that they were removed for legal reasons. Wish I'd screen-capped them now, not to post them but to digest them more fully - I only did a quick read through of the most important points.  Wish I'd clicked on the links to the pdfs too.

Did I imagine it or did a heap of posts just disappear ?

I thought the emails were published on this thread? I did a refresh and the emails were gone. 

Anything else is probably irrelevant to the main issues and would probably confuse people even more.  While I think those communications contained some information which users may not like, they make clear that the parties concerned were acting in good faith to address the issues.  While I'm sure the manner in which it was delivered might have stung, the majority of the advice Tihan gave you in those communications was sound, just in case you're wondering.

Thanks Amir.  I thought I knew what Tihan had been talking about in his previous posts with regard to the general partnership and who was liable at the time of the Rackspace intrusion and what you just posted confirms it. 

I'll probably have more to add when I've read it in more depth.

+1

And here's a suggestion from me: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1039536

Also guys, I understand this is a shitty situation, and there's a lot of accusations thrown at the BC guys, and we really don't know the truth at this point. So BC guys, seek help, get assistance, I'm sure many trusted members on the forum would be happy to help. Ignoring the problems will not make them go away..

I think Amir means that he doesn't know how to contact any of the limited partners (according to what's been posted in the past, the majority limited partner is an investment fund which Tihan was representing).

Bitcoinica LP is a Limited Partnership, not a company.  It would not have directors - it has a general partner and at least one limited partner (Tihan implied that there was more than one).  The General Partner - Bitcoinica Consultancy Limited - does have directors (by law, it must have at least one director and one shareholder - these can be the same person). 

Amir, the identity of the limited partners should be in the partnership agreement.  It will likely be a company or a trust of some kind, but there will be some kind of public record of that entity in the jurisdiction where it was created.  That public record will include an official contact and registered address.  It will likely be an accountant or a lawyer but the important thing is that it's the official point of contact and that communication through that point of contact is deemed to have been made with the company/trust.  You need to get your lawyer to follow this up if you have no contact details for the limited partner/s.  You need to understand that the limited partners will sure as hell be consulting their lawyers at the moment and that they may not be willing to talk to you except through lawyers.

Whether the principals of Bitcoinica Consultancy Ltd are in agreement on how to proceed or not, you need to keep talking to each other and try to reach agreement about the next step.  You should involve a lawyer in this process as the terms of the partnership agreement as well as laws regulating NZ companies need to be considered.

Easy questions:

Who is Bitcoinica LP?  Who are the officers?  Who owns it?  How can you possibly have been taking over/working for/whatever a company and not know who they are?

LOL. At this point, there isn't really going to be any money to be returned, so I have no idea how you guys think that is a viable goal of a lawsuit.

IMO, the real goal should be preventing these people from losing (or more likely stealing) customer funds again. IMO, the correct way to prevent this is incarceration of the guilty parties

When someone has a criminal proceeding started, I'll be much more interested. Until then, I suspect this is a massive waste of time - there's no one left to sue.

At the very least they could post the log from LastPass that should show someone other than the owner logged into it....

All the people know the fact that lastpass master key=API key should explain when the hack happened, what was they doing and who was they hanging out with.

Do you think any involved want to be left holding this hot potato?
No, of course not. Everyone is trying to run, if they they can, before that hot potato is thrown in their direction.

From what genjix said, I think he means the original team, own it right now, but they all quit or was fired...

Who owns Bitcoinica LP 

Im confused since no one seems to be taking ownership of it.

I don't have the contact of anyone from Bitcoinica LP to ask them...


We don't think it's a good idea now to touch the funds from Bitcoinica. We probably shouldn't have even taken on the claims process in the first place, but the pressure was immense and we wanted people to get paid back.


No, multiple people had access to the claims process (including me). However, I believe it was Patrick and Tihan who had access to the funds. I'm don't think Tihan actually sent any payments. I think Patrick did all the MtGox USD payments, whereas BTC was done by many people (due to how bitcoins work).